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* What's Up With Telephone Cards? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* how often do you turn on your basement dehumdifier? - 2 messages, 1 author
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* Motivating high-school students to join college - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Did anyone catch the frugal episode of HGTV's Designstar? - 1 messages, 1
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TOPIC: What's Up With Telephone Cards?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1e43c6ac6c7ab980?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 14 2007 9:39 pm
From: George Grapman
Bob F wrote:
> "George Grapman" <sfgeorge@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:1187140129.314513.10730@x35g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Aug 14, 5:24 pm, "Bob F" <bobnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Janie" <nob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:e5610$46c09833$a666746d$11180@ALLTEL.NET...
>>>
>>>> I used to buy telephone cards to use for long-distance calls within the USA.
>>>> The cards were good for state-to-state calls or in-state cards. The only
>>>> cards
>>>> I can find now are for state-to-state calls only. If a person uses one of
>>>> the
>>>> state-to-state cards to make an in-state call, the cost is five times the
>>>> rate
>>>> of state-to-state calling.
>>>> Did something change that doesn't allow the sale of cards good for in-state
>>>> calls?
>>>> I usually purchase cards AT&T cards at Wal-Mart.
>>>> Does anyone have suggestions for some card that is good for in-state calls?
>>>> I
>>>> don't like putting long distance calls on my bill; like using the prepaid
>>>> cards so I don't get an unwelcome surprise when my phone bill arrives.
>>> Last time I looked, the cards had the same in-state rates until you
>>> "recharged"
>>> them. Then the rules you mention took over. So you just buy new cards. That
>>> was
>>> several months ago.
>>>
>>> Bob
>> I think that is unlikely as you are using the same PIN and access
>> number for the original card and the recharge and therefore accessing
>> the same platform which is the rate programmed into the computer for
>> that card.
>>
>
> It must change the rate when you re-program the card. That is certainly not
> beyond reason. And it is what their sign said. And what the card company told me
> on the phone.
>
> Bob
>
>
Then they are, in fact going through the trouble of adjusting it.
I left that business last year for number of reason, one being that
there were too many cards with too much small type and I tired of
explaining that a five cent a minute card with no fees or charges might
be a better buy that a 1 cent a minute card with connection charges.
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TOPIC: how often do you turn on your basement dehumdifier?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/0be86dbe647ce6b7?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 14 2007 10:11 pm
From: "Bob F"
"Joe" <joe5345@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1186798598.719365.270570@b79g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 10, 10:07 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> Joe wrote:
>> > I have a humid basement - hovers around 80 degrees on it's own - but
>> > it's not damp. I keep a fan running 24/7 and that keeps any musty
>> > smells at bay. If I run my dehumdifier for an hour it gets the
>> > humidity down to around 60. Am I ok running it about 4 times a day for
>> > an hour each time or should I keep it running continuously? It uses
>> > about as much energy as an air conditioner so I don't want to run it
>> > all day unless it's absolutely necessary to keep the moisture at bay.
>>
>> Hmm, isn't that what a humidistat is for -- running a dehumidifier
>> (or humidifier) only as much as is necessary to keep a desired
>> moisture level?
>>
>> - Logan
>
> Yeah well I'm just wondering if it would make a difference if the
> dehumidifier sucked all the moisture out of the air at once instead of
> constantly cycling on and off all day wasting power. The humidity and
> moisture in the basement are not noticeable at all but everything I
> read online tells me that if you don't keep your humidity under 60
> degrees mold will grow.
>
People survived with basements for hundreds and more years before dehumidifiers.
And they didn't all have mold problems. I am constantly amased at the paranoia
about mold.
"humidity under 60 degrees" - now there's a goal.
Bob
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 14 2007 10:14 pm
From: "Bob F"
"Rick" <rickajho@rcn.com> wrote in message news:46BDF17E.E11A9E45@rcn.com...
> Logan Shaw wrote:
>>
>> Joe wrote:
>> > I have a humid basement - hovers around 80 degrees on it's own - but
>> > it's not damp. I keep a fan running 24/7 and that keeps any musty
>> > smells at bay. If I run my dehumdifier for an hour it gets the
>> > humidity down to around 60. Am I ok running it about 4 times a day for
>> > an hour each time or should I keep it running continuously? It uses
>> > about as much energy as an air conditioner so I don't want to run it
>> > all day unless it's absolutely necessary to keep the moisture at bay.
>>
>> Hmm, isn't that what a humidistat is for -- running a dehumidifier
>> (or humidifier) only as much as is necessary to keep a desired
>> moisture level?
>>
>> - Logan
>
> Sure, but they are still expensive to run. Dehumidifiers havn't climbed
> on the "Energy Star bandwagon" yet. Even with tweaking the control on
> ours all the time to make sure it isn't running more than it needs to,
> it can still jump our electric bill by about 1/3 during the summer
> months. I think the point the OP was making was would it still work
> enough if he only had it turned on four times a day rather than letting
> it do it's own thing being plugged in 24/7.
If you REALLY need a dehumidifier, would you rather have an air conditioner? Why
not get cooling as you dehumidify rather than just dumping the heat back into
the basement.
Bob
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TOPIC: Motivating high-school students to join college
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d0a99ec5ae726fd3?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 14 2007 10:49 pm
From: Logan Shaw
Daniel T. wrote:
> Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> When I was in high school, my dad used to tell me that an education is
>> the most important thing one can ever earn.
> You don't need to buy an education though. You can get one without
> stepping foot on a college campus.
You can, and you can also go to college and get a degree without getting
much of an education.
However, college is generally a marvelous opportunity to learn things.
There are all these other people around you, and a high proportion of
them (compared to the general population) want to learn things, plus
there are a bunch of grad students and professors you can ask about
things if you are really curious. So for that reason, I like it.
- Logan
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 14 2007 11:12 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
> Daniel T. wrote:
>> Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> When I was in high school, my dad used to tell me that an education
>>> is the most important thing one can ever earn.
>
>> You don't need to buy an education though. You can get one without
>> stepping foot on a college campus.
>
> You can, and you can also go to college and get a degree without
> getting much of an education.
>
> However, college is generally a marvelous opportunity to learn things.
Only for some, its a hopelessly inefficient way of learning things for anyone with a clue.
The ONLY real advantage of college is that it provides a formal piece
of paper that has a reputation that is useful when applying for jobs.
> There are all these other people around you, and a high proportion of
> them (compared to the general population) want to learn things, plus
> there are a bunch of grad students and professors you can ask about
> things if you are really curious. So for that reason, I like it.
I've always felt that its dinosaur stuff, a primitive way of learning things.
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TOPIC: Did anyone catch the frugal episode of HGTV's Designstar?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/46fa842405949c82?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Aug 14 2007 11:18 pm
From: The Usual Suspect
On Aug 13, 5:27 pm, Seerialmom <seerial...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I couldn't wait to see this episode featuring one of my favorite
> haunts, "The .99¢ Only Store". All the designers were given $399 and
> 99 minutes to shop; the room they were decorating had 3 white walls
> and a generic Ikea white couch/coffee table. They could also spend
> part of the $399 on 2 paint colors of their choice. The room only had
> to have the illusion of style; not necessarily the function.
>
> some of the designers used chili pods and pinto beans to make "rugs";
> others used more traditional items like the candle plates and bamboo
> that store has a gazillion of.
>
> Myself...I think some were very creative in "repurposing" the items
> but others could have done more; even if only 2 paint colors you could
> still buy the following to make colors/dyes:
>
> Beets, teabags, mustard.
>
> Anyway...I'm sure it'll be repeated if you're interested.
I loved that episode! It was amazing, the way that those decorators
came up with creative ways to use that junk! The winner went way over
the top, though! He deserved to win, since they were told not to
worry about practicality, but looked like they had slapped him when
they told him that he was going to have to start doing some realistic
stuff. He's got the mentality of a 12 year old!
This season, the contestants are doing some great work!
Also, I'm going to dye a stained white outfit with something cheap and
natural. But I hate to waste my teabags. Would coffee work?
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