Frugal Living: 19 new messages in 11 topics

Friday, October 5, 2007

19 new messages in 11 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com

Today's topics:

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Growing Plants the biotech way
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/dfc767aa46a60d24?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 5:16 pm
From: Stella

Growing Plants the biotech way
http://biotech2day.blogspot.com

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 5:21 pm
From: clams casino

Stella wrote:

>Growing Plants
>
>
>
So what's worse? This continuing blogspot spam out of India or the foot
wear spam out of China?

==============================================================================
TOPIC: looking for career change advice
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c907241b6575fbc4?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 5:35 pm
From: Jason Montoya

My experience has been different. I've (almost) always given two weeks'
notice, the departure from the job has been smooth and I obtained good
references from those employers. Granted, most of my jobs have not been
for "megacorp" type companies. They're too soulless to spend half my
life working for them, better paying or not. Smaller companies are more
like family (a dysfunctional one perhaps, but still family - grin)

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 2 2007 2:27 pm
From: Rick

George wrote:

>
> Don K wrote:

> > "Joseph O'Brien" <obrien1984@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1191244545.649604.241670@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

> >> As I see it, I have a few options.

> >

> >> 1) Tell them I'm taking some classes that will meet in the morning,
> >> twice a week for 6 weeks, and ask off for those times. Don't mention
> >> nursing school or quitting or anything. If they ask, just say I'm
> >> taking some "natural science" classes to further my education. In the
> >> spring, come clean and tell them I will be returning to school full
> >> time.

> >
> > Don't give too much notice.
> >
> > There was a guy at work who thought he was being a nice guy
> > by giving extra notice that he would be leaving in a couple of months.
> >
> > Management said no you're not, next Friday will be your last day.
> >
> > Don
> >
> >

> I have seen that in action with typical megacorp thinking (its only our
> way or our way). I worked with a guy who announced that he was going to
> work for another company that was not a competitor and that he would
> stay on for a couple weeks to insure an orderly transition of his
> projects. They called security and had him escorted out of the building.

Happened to me - I was asked to turn in my keys and leave immediately.
NEVER give an employer any indication you intend to leave a position, no
matter how good you think your intentions may be. You'd be surprised at
which bosses - who you think you know - will screw you in a split
second.

Rick

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Can I Wash/Clean my mattress??
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/613240b394b8cefb?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 6:10 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <470472a9$0$18975$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:
[ ... ]
>Thinking it didn't make that much difference, I had slept on various old,
>worn-out mattresses my entire life until maybe a month ago, when I finally
>splurged and bought a nice, high-quality comfortable mattress. This decision
>turns out to have been a time-saver: now when I wake up in the morning, I
>no longer feel compelled to spend an extra 10 minutes standing under the hot
>water in the shower trying to get my sore/tense muscles to relax. In
>retrospect, it seems like I could've figured this out sooner and could
>have found mornings slightly less miserable for the last decade or so.
[ ... ]

So; what did you get, from where, and what was the cost? I'm looking
at getting a new mattress at the moment, myself.

Gary

--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net

http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

Yoko Onos' former driver tried to extort $2M from her, threating to
"release embarassing recordings...". What, he has a copy of her album?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 8:11 pm
From: Logan Shaw

Gary Heston wrote:
> In article <470472a9$0$18975$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> Logan Shaw <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>> Thinking it didn't make that much difference, I had slept on various old,
>> worn-out mattresses my entire life until maybe a month ago, when I finally
>> splurged and bought a nice, high-quality comfortable mattress.

> So; what did you get, from where, and what was the cost? I'm looking
> at getting a new mattress at the moment, myself.

I got a Simmons Beautyrest with a big thick plush pillowtop. The one I got
was from their "World Class" line. My last mattress was really firm, and
this one is quite the opposite. I think the softer style works better for me.
I chose the Simmons brand because they have an "individually pocketed" coil
design, which basically means that the coils aren't tied together with metal
(except at the bottom). The marketing people say this means it can conform
to the shape of your body better, and in this case, I think it does make a
little bit of a difference. Of course, with a mattress, it's all about
personal preference, basically.

I paid plenty for it (well over $1000 including tax and delivery and all that),
but consoled myself with the fact that I at least talked them down more than
10% below the "sale" price. I bought it at Mattress Firm, which is a chain
of stores that's apparently bent on world domination based on how many stores
they've opened lately.

- Logan

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Bush To Let Illegal Aliens Get $40 Digital TV Coupons
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/f941e4a655a77d3f?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 6:57 pm
From: bearclaw@cruller.invalid

In article <13gacqoc54nt791@news.supernews.com>,
cloud dreamer <Stop@Global.Warming> wrote:

> the reporter spoke to a strawberry farmer who had been in the
> business for more than 25 years. When he was asked if he felt bad
> "stealing" jobs from Americans by using illegal immigrants, he said
> that he had never ever had an American come to him looking for a job.

Sheesh why does everyone on all sides of this issue speak in code?
"American" in this context means white people (now watch the dummies
argue that the farmer probably never had any black Americans or asian
Americans asking for work, either).

"Illegal immigrant" means brown Mexican.

That's why I have no faith in _anyone_ pushing the issue-- it is
covertly racist at its heart. Racism is always a populist issue; it
always appeals most to the lynch mob mentalities, to the lowest, foulest
of gutter motivations. If it wasn't the wetbacks, it would be blacks or
asians, and when they run out of colored people they would go after the
micks or the kikes or the goombas or the polacks. Eventually they would
get to the various non-conforming religious groups and the cripples.

You might say, "no it's about the LAW!" And you might really mean it,
once again proving that denial is not just a river in Egypt. Because the
only substantive thing setting "illegal immigrants" apart from anyone
else is their color.

Documents? As easy to erase as they are to forge. Any citizen would
probably be amazed at how fast the government can make their presence in
this country illegitimate.

Personally, I would trust the speech of a venom-spitting white
supremacist before I would trust a smirking, middle-class Tancredo
mouthpiece. Tancredo's whole pitch is little more than the old, "we are
the government (or we want to be), and we are here to help you."

Anyone who believes that, here's your sign.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 8:15 pm
From: Thanatos

In article <bearclaw-5DE6A6.20571204102007@news.supernews.com>,
bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:

> "Illegal immigrant" means brown Mexican.

No, it means anyone who enters the country contrary to law.

I know that it's currently in vogue among leftists to shut down any
discussion of this issue by screaming "racism!" the moment anyone brings
it up (because everyone in this country has been conditioned to be
hysterically afraid of being labeled a racist, whether it's true or not)
but we're not falling for it any more.

Every single country on the planet controls its borders. Why is the US
the only country on earth that's expected to just throw open the gates
and hope for the best?

Hell, Mexico itself has the toughest and strictest immigration laws in
the Western Hemisphere. It's amazing how every time anyone in America
tries to either enforce our current law or pass tougher new laws,
everyone from guys like you to the elites in Mexico City starts
screeching "Racism!" like a whipped harridan. Why is it racist for the
USA to control its border but its not racist for Mexico to control
theirs?

> You might say, "no it's about the LAW!" And you might
> really mean it, once again proving that denial is not
> just a river in Egypt. Because the only substantive thing
> setting "illegal immigrants" apart from anyone else is
> their color.

Well, that and the fact that they BROKE THE LAW.

Jeezus bleeding christ...

You seem to be a subscriber to a peculiar mindset I've seen elsewhere,
regarding other issues of crime and law enforcement, which says that if
enough minorities choose to break a given law, society is no longer
morally allowed to enforce that law because it becomes de facto "unfair"
to those minorities and anyone who does try and enforce it becomes a
racist per se.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 9:10 pm
From: "Al E. Gator"

"greg3347" <theodoric3@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1191499766.867539.89090@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 4, 4:04 am, "Bill" <rocka...@prodigy.net> wrote:

"Sucking for Success", a handbook for understanding the American
republicon party

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 11:15 pm
From: Audie Murphy's Ghost

In article <atropos-B64857.23154704102007@news.giganews.com>, Thanatos
<atropos@mac.com> wrote:

> In article <bearclaw-5DE6A6.20571204102007@news.supernews.com>,
> bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
>
> > "Illegal immigrant" means brown Mexican.
>
> No, it means anyone who enters the country contrary to law.
>
> I know that it's currently in vogue among leftists to shut down any
> discussion of this issue by screaming "racism!" the moment anyone brings
> it up (because everyone in this country has been conditioned to be
> hysterically afraid of being labeled a racist, whether it's true or not)
> but we're not falling for it any more.

I have never, not once, heard any of you Mexican-bashers say anything
about illegal immigration by Canadians, Irish (or any other Western
Europeans), or pretty much anybody that's white and has some money.
There are plenty of them here -- so when, pray tell, were the
hysterical roundups of barmaids working the night shift in Queens?

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 5 2007 12:09 am
From: Rob Jensen

On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:36:09 -0230, cloud dreamer
<Global_Warming@is.real> wrote:

>Funny how guys like Bill will whine over illegal immigrants but is happy
>to buy cheap strawberries made possible only by their labour. I doubt
>he'd be willing to bend over and pick in the hot sun for their wages.

Well, my thing as a flaming liberal wouldn't be to slam the illegal
immigrants with any more penalties. The only thing to do is to go
after the real lawbreakers -- those people that exploit their
willingness to do labor for cheap, the people who *really* steal the
jobs -- you know, the corporations. Make all of the managing
officers from the CEO on down, and all of the board of directors,
personally liable for a miniumum of 5 years in prison and a $1,000,000
fine *both* per illegal used, with prison sentences to never be served
concurrently with any other criminal penalty. Oh yeah, and the
corporatiosn themselves fined sums not less than ten time the minimum
prevailing hourly wage per worker times 40 hours a week times 50 weeks
per year (2 off for vacation) into comprehensive health care plans for
the indigent, the poor, the working poor and anyone and everyone with
catastrophic illnesses whose treatment costs would otherwise cost the
person and/or his family their homes, illnesses such as cancer or
massive multiple bone breaks, head wounds, etc. No sliding scales,
none of the voodoo math where HMOs are more concerned with increasing
profits by denying legitimate claims over and over again.

The real criminals, the real thiefs, are the corporations. Until they
have no incentive to use illegals, illegals will continue to be abused
and exploited and US standards of living will continue to go down. So
the appropriate punishment is to hold the corporations accountable for
their crimes against both sets of victims -- not just the illegals
(whose exploitation is IMO bad enough), but more importantly, but also
the American people and the damage those psychopathic MBAs have
inflicted on the country with what really is *their* ongoing crime.

-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Tea beneficial to Diabetics
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/40f88122b1083a3a?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 8:03 pm
From: pohmichael@yahoo.com

I have tea that benefits Diabetics. I can be contacted by SMS at
98153257. Or call me after 7pm at the same number.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 11:46 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

pohmichael@yahoo.com wrote:

> I have tea that benefits Diabetics.

No you dont.

And you cant even spell you name properly, its spelled poohmichael.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Update on installing kitchen cabinets from China
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8e261cfd209cb855?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 8:08 pm
From: Rick

clams casino wrote:
>
> pc wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > The cabinets and granite are all from China.
>
> While looking for some oak stair treads at Home Depot today, I was
> amused to see they were all imported from China.

Take a look at how many of their kitchen and bath cabinets and bath
fixtures are "hecho en Mexico" too.

Rick

==============================================================================
TOPIC: firefox very good
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b69f7fe51e5abb54?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 8:42 pm
From: "Nicik Name"

"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fLadnTMOzcy1ApzanZ2dnUVZ_oesnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "Logan Shaw" <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:46fb1a6c$0$18930$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> > Al Bundy wrote:
> >
> >> It's so much faster than IE at opening pages. Problem is that it won't
> >> open some pages and it crashes on a whim.
> >
> > Crashes on a whim? Not in my experience. I might see a crash maybe
> > once a month, and I use it *all* the time.
> >
> > And generally speaking, if a page can't be viewed in a browser as
mainstream
> > as Firefox, it's probably because the people who created it don't know
what
> > they're doing.
> >
>
> Or because the browser developers didn't make robust code.
you are correct............
Opera V9.23....
this thread ends here
Do Not Cross
=====================

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Home safe odors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1b82176d55c73873?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 8:50 pm
From: "Nicik Name"

"Marsha" <mas@xeb.net> wrote in message news:fdorrk$jv2$2@news.datemas.de...
> The contents of my small home safe feel slightly damp
> and they smell odd. Does anyone have any suggestions
> on solving this problem?
Bad Air Sponge
http://www.seefred.com/cgi-bin/shop.pl/page=badairsponge.htm
>
> Thanks,
> Marsha/Ohio
>

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Iraq War... Not Frugal
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ee6b718a1bfecd6f?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 8:58 pm
From: "Nicik Name"

"Dennis" <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u3ijf3h65sgb4k6in6l08nm78b050hi5n7@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:00:25 -0700, "Bill" <bill190nospam@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"A Veteran" wrote in message
> >> The War in Iraq has cost about $453,000,000,000 (four hundred and
> >> fifty-three billion dollars) to date.
> >>
> >
> >The majority of people in America agree we should leave and this is what
the
> >majority of the people in Iraq also want.
> >
> >Also - Everyone I talk to feels we should spend our tax dollars on
America
> >and not on foreign countries. (Stop sending billions to other countries.)
> >
> >Unfortunately the people in Washington don't care what the people think.
I
> >guess we don't give them any money so we are low on the totem pole....
>
> What I don't get is, it's coming up on a year since the new wave of
> politicians swept congress on the platform of ending the war, but
> nothing has changed. They are still writing the administration blank
> checks. What's the deal?
Sitting down?.....good
Saudia Arabia and Big Oil want 112 billion barrels of oil under Iraq to STAY
THERE.
>
>
> Dennis (evil)
> --
> What government gives, it must first take away.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Should I take Black Friday more seriously?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/b9a48af279f7b211?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 10:24 pm
From: "aesthete8@hotmail.com"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071004/us_nm/blackfriday_ads_dc

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 5 2007 12:55 am
From: Anthony Matonak

aesthete8@hotmail.com wrote:
<Nothing at all. Just a blind link.>

No. You should not.

Anthony

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Free Reviva Labs Skin Care Products
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fd00b3cc17c87ae7?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Oct 4 2007 10:49 pm
From: "TheBestFreebies.com"

Receive free Reviva Labs skin care samples and a copy of Beauty News.
For over 28 Years Reviva Labs has been producing all natural skin care
products that help leave your skin healthier and more youthful looking.
This free offer is intended for United States residents only.

--
The Best Freebies

All freebies are available at http://TheBestFreebies.com and are intended
for families, businesses, and individuals residing in the United States,
Canada, and the United Kingdom.

==============================================================================

You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "misc.consumers.frugal-living"
group.

To post to this group, visit http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

To unsubscribe from this group, send email to misc.consumers.frugal-living-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com

To change the way you get mail from this group, visit:
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/subscribe?hl=en

To report abuse, send email explaining the problem to abuse@googlegroups.com

==============================================================================
Google Groups: http://groups.google.com?hl=en

Frugal Living

Blog Archive

Friday, October 5, 2007

19 new messages in 11 topics - digest

No comments: