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* Should I buy a gas gussler? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Ethanol mileage - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Should I buy a gas gussler?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fabb5d064cc35efb?hl=en
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Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 11:45 pm
From: "Nicik Name"
"Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:srhi-7C7EEF.22582214082008@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article
> <cbcdfdc7-542d-45fb-879c-7926b9159015@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>,
> James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I haven't shop cars but if dealers are trying to rid their big cars
>> with big discounts I might get one. I only drive 8000 miles a year so
>> it's only about 300 gallons of gas. A big car using twice as much gas
>> would cost $1200 more in gas. Wouldn't it be frugal to get a big
>> comfortable car and get the savings up front?
>
> How long do you expect to own this vehicle? Keep in mind that the price
> of gas one year from now, then two years down the road, and three, four,
> and five years will only go up.
Nope.............the high peaked late June 2008.
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TOPIC: Ethanol mileage
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/853d8ae76431e232?hl=en
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Date: Thurs, Aug 14 2008 11:51 pm
From: "Bay Area Holdout"
>
> No disagreement from me. Mindlessly pushing the idea of using ethanol (no
> planning where the corn will come from, huge subsidies needed etc) to keep
> the SUVs going instead of optimizing fleet fuel economy will go down as
> one of the dumber moves in history.
This is right up there with planned government mandates eliminating
incandescent light bulbs in favor of flourescent(CFL) ones.
Totally insane, these CFL bulbs are considered toxic as they contain mercury
vapor. How many people will put them aside and take them to their hazardous
waste site for disposal? 10% maybe 35% tops. Then factor in the gas burned
to drive to the waste site. Ours moves around the county but it's alwasy
been at least a 15 mile each way drive and we live in a major urban area.
Add to the CFL waste issue, slow to light to full intensity, flicker
factors, you can't dim them, potential unknows in the circuitry to generate
the high voltages to arc the light. This was fine for a light fixture on a
ceiling but now it could be a fixture right next to your brain! Some say
they get headaches.
Now this is great stuff for certain applications and if people want to use
them great,
but to make it a mandatory thing!?? Give me a break!
Right up there with MBTE which was suppose to help air quality and ended up
causing huge SOIL and WATER pollution issues when it ate through hundreds of
inground gas tanks. Also car fires in older cars whose rubber fuel hose
couldn't handle it either. OPPS! Billions in clean-up and still counting.
Lord help us between the enviro's looking to stop global warming and save
the whales and clean the air and big industry looking to make a buck,
they'll end up killing us one way or the other. But the enviro's will be
happy as they feel there are too many people(especially we greedy, fat
Americans) now and industry will have all our money before they kill us off!
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