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TOPIC: Life (1) ; Working
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 1:28 am
From: "Dr. Solve"
.
Life
It is something that everyone has, yet very view people comprehend it,
or at least try to.
If I put a book on your hand and ask you, "What is a book?
I bet you can answer it easily.
If now I put a slice of bread on your hand and ask you, "What is
bread?
Definitely, you'll answer it correctly.
Likewise, sugar, rubber band, money, and many other things, I believe
you know exactly what they are.
But what about Life?
If represented as a little thing and put onto your hand, then I ask
you:
What is Life?
Can you answer it?
Not easy, right?
While every human being has life, or used to have it, it is absolutely
not easy to define what exactly Life is.
I tell you what, take some time, say 10 minutes, before you continue
reading, to try to answer the question with your own thought and idea.
Not other's idea that you got from a book somewhere, but with your
own.
Now, use your thought, perception, mind, experience, idea, meaning,
and feeling. Answer this question:
.
What is LIFE ???
To be continued.
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Working
Every human being, like all living creatures, has basic routine needs.
Foods, clothing, medicines, etc.
Without meeting those needs people will die soon.
Most people do not want to die soon, then they have to meet those
basic routine needs.
How?
Have something to exchange: money.
How to get money?
See the title above.
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Something in your mind really disturbing you?
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Nobody will get your identity, not even me.
Sincerely yours,
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 3:25 am
From: Al Bundy
Dr. Solve wrote:
> .
>
> Life
>
> It is something that everyone has, yet very view people comprehend it,
> or at least try to.
>
No matter how you slice it, it's still baloney.
To be continued.....
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 4:17 am
From: Anthony Matonak
Al Bundy wrote:
> Dr. Solve wrote:
>> Life
>> It is something that everyone has, yet very view people comprehend it,
>> or at least try to.
>
> No matter how you slice it, it's still baloney.
Well, evil spammers aside, this is a frugal living newsgroup and life
does have some relevance. Nobody lives forever so we've all got a
limit to the time we have to live. A frugal goal might be to get the
most value we can out of that limited time. People can waste their
time, their lives, as easily as they can waste money. One way to waste
it would be to trade all your time, effort and lifespan for money and
material things that don't have any real value to you.
Anthony
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TOPIC: Sprint have best data plan bar none?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 1:41 am
From: Gordon
me@privacy.net wrote in news:3u1pb3lpoofll94td64b183743hkbo614a@4ax.com:
> Gordon <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote:
>
>>AT&T has simular plans called Media Max Bundles.
>
> not seeing anything like that on their web page
>
Hmmm...
That's intresting. Maybe you have to walk into a
store and get a brochure. Cuz that's where I saw it.
Then again, it may be burried under "Data plans".
THey seem to be pushing their unlimited messaging
plans right now.
FWIW: I just left AT&T and now use Sprint. Here in
Portland at least, Sprint is a slightly better deal.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 2:14 am
From: "Sal Khalbar"
"I. Dunjic" <dunjic.blic@gmail.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:1186788214.817487.13790@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> Milenko Kindl Cvrcko
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 2:29 am
From: bearclaw@cruller.invalid
WASHINGTON (AP) &lsqauo; The Federal Reserve, trying to calm turmoil on Wall
Street, announced Friday that it will pump as much money as needed into
the U.S. financial system to help overcome the ill effects of a
spreading credit crunch.
The Fed, in a short statement, said it will provide "reserves as
necessary" to help the markets safely make their way. The central bank
did not provide details but said it would do all it can to "facilitate
the orderly functioning of financial markets."
The Fed pushed $38 billion in temporary reserves into the system Friday,
on top of a similar move the day before.
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 2:49 am
From: bearclaw@cruller.invalid
In article <bearclaw-902DC4.04295611082007@news.supernews.com>,
bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
> WASHINGTON (AP) &lsqauo; The Federal Reserve, trying to calm turmoil on Wall
> Street, announced Friday that it will pump as much money as needed into
> the U.S. financial system to help overcome the ill effects of a
> spreading credit crunch.
>
> The Fed, in a short statement, said it will provide "reserves as
> necessary" to help the markets safely make their way. The central bank
> did not provide details but said it would do all it can to "facilitate
> the orderly functioning of financial markets."
>
> The Fed pushed $38 billion in temporary reserves into the system Friday,
> on top of a similar move the day before.
more at:
http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/08/10/ap4008288.html
While reading the story, ask yourself:
Where is all this money-- essentially welfare for the rich-- coming from?
Who is getting it? (don't be fooled by bank names and institutions; look
at the individuals who will be receiving these funds)
Why are *they* getting it, instead of those in danger of losing their
homes? (considering that "they" are the ones who created the mess to
begin with)
If "greed is good", the creed of contemporary America, then greed
sanctioned by government fiat, enforced by government policies and
protected at its most extreme by government force, is even better. Are
you getting yours? Now you know why bankruptcy protections were all but
stolen from middle class people while remaining in place for those with
the most to protect. Yes, it certainly was a plot. No, it wasn't hard to
predict. Yes, consumers are spineless rubes.
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 3:21 am
From: "Bill"
> Where is all this money-- essentially welfare for the rich-- coming from?
>
> Who is getting it? (don't be fooled by bank names and institutions; look
> at the individuals who will be receiving these funds)
>
Let's get this pecking order correct here...
Now how much "campaign money" have you given to those in Washington?
How much "campaign money" have the above banks, etc. given?
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 3:51 am
From: bearclaw@cruller.invalid
In article <5i5gssF3nnnbuU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Bill" <bill190nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Where is all this money-- essentially welfare for the rich-- coming from?
> >
> > Who is getting it? (don't be fooled by bank names and institutions; look
> > at the individuals who will be receiving these funds)
> >
>
> Let's get this pecking order correct here...
>
> Now how much "campaign money" have you given to those in Washington?
>
> How much "campaign money" have the above banks, etc. given?
Who is getting the money? Well, they are real flesh-and-blood people
just like you. They have names and families and pets, just like you.
They have mortgages, just like you. They have bills and worries, just
like you.
Unlike you, though, they also have more of YOUR money than you do.
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 4:55 am
From: clams casino
bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
>In article <5i5gssF3nnnbuU1@mid.individual.net>,
> "Bill" <bill190nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Where is all this money-- essentially welfare for the rich-- coming from?
>>>
>>>Who is getting it? (don't be fooled by bank names and institutions; look
>>>at the individuals who will be receiving these funds)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>Let's get this pecking order correct here...
>>
>>Now how much "campaign money" have you given to those in Washington?
>>
>>How much "campaign money" have the above banks, etc. given?
>>
>>
>
>Who is getting the money? Well, they are real flesh-and-blood people
>just like you. They have names and families and pets, just like you.
>They have mortgages, just like you. They have bills and worries, just
>like you.
>
>Unlike you, though, they also have more of YOUR money than you do.
>
>
They certainly are not like me as I have no debt / no need to borrow,
but you are likely correct in that they have way more money than I..
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 5:54 am
From: clams casino
bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
>WASHINGTON (AP) &lsqauo; The Federal Reserve, trying to calm turmoil on Wall
>Street, announced Friday that it will pump as much money as needed into
>the U.S. financial system to help overcome the ill effects of a
>spreading credit crunch.
>
>The Fed, in a short statement, said it will provide "reserves as
>necessary" to help the markets safely make their way. The central bank
>did not provide details but said it would do all it can to "facilitate
>the orderly functioning of financial markets."
>
>The Fed pushed $38 billion in temporary reserves into the system Friday,
>on top of a similar move the day before.
>
>
I not sure how pumping money into the economy helps the current loan
problems.
Those with good credit continue to have no problems getting loans. Those
who have poor credit are not getting loans where an increased money
supply likely has little effect on whether a bank, etc will be willing
to take on a high risk borrower in today's market.
Furthermore, the real problem today is mortgage defaults where more
money supply is not going to help those who are over their heads with
high ARMs. As for the hedge funds who speculated in high risk loans, why
should the government bail them out?
== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 7:09 am
From: George
bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
> WASHINGTON (AP) &lsqauo; The Federal Reserve, trying to calm turmoil on Wall
> Street, announced Friday that it will pump as much money as needed into
> the U.S. financial system to help overcome the ill effects of a
> spreading credit crunch.
>
> The Fed, in a short statement, said it will provide "reserves as
> necessary" to help the markets safely make their way. The central bank
> did not provide details but said it would do all it can to "facilitate
> the orderly functioning of financial markets."
>
> The Fed pushed $38 billion in temporary reserves into the system Friday,
> on top of a similar move the day before.
Nothing new, lots of wealthy companies are welfare queens.
Right down the road from me we (the taxpayers) are leveling a mountain
for a new Walmart. They have an existing store not far away where we did
the same thing not a long time ago. We also put in the access road,
utilities and gave them a 9 year tax exemption. The only reason they are
moving is the tax exemption is about to expire.
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 8:42 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com
On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 10:09:30 -0400, George <george@nospam.invalid>
wrote:
>bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
>> WASHINGTON (AP) ? The Federal Reserve, trying to calm turmoil on Wall
>> Street, announced Friday that it will pump as much money as needed into
>> the U.S. financial system to help overcome the ill effects of a
>> spreading credit crunch.
>>
>> The Fed, in a short statement, said it will provide "reserves as
>> necessary" to help the markets safely make their way. The central bank
>> did not provide details but said it would do all it can to "facilitate
>> the orderly functioning of financial markets."
>>
>> The Fed pushed $38 billion in temporary reserves into the system Friday,
>> on top of a similar move the day before.
>
>Nothing new, lots of wealthy companies are welfare queens.
>
>Right down the road from me we (the taxpayers) are leveling a mountain
>for a new Walmart. They have an existing store not far away where we did
>the same thing not a long time ago. We also put in the access road,
>utilities and gave them a 9 year tax exemption. The only reason they are
>moving is the tax exemption is about to expire.
Yeah. People in part of Alabama are paying a special gas tax for
(drumroll please....)
A state financed golf course. (no joke)
The Fed had a choice of lowering the interest rate and fueling
continued speculation and inflation in the home market, or doing this.
It probably is the lesser evil of the available correctives. It may
take the edge off the pain, but I suspect we still will have some
economic challenges ahead.
Anyway, the subject is borderline OT. We all know that MCFL is for
the posting of Google blogpot spam, Rod Speed Screeds, and offers from
Pakistan.
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TOPIC: Efficient A/C use?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1bea26b2f7601d52?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 7:02 am
From: vmacekesq@yahoo.com
This is certainly a standard, old question but I figure I'd ask
anyway:
I've got a little (app. 900 sf) 2-bedroom 1-story house, insulated
reasonably well - when I'm in I keep the thermostat at 82 degrees and
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comfortable when I step back in, but it would be after a 20-mile
commute).
Is it more efficient to just shut the a/c off when I'm gone - does it
take a lot of energy to bring the temp back down from a standing
start, as it were?
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== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 7:28 am
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vmacekesq@yahoo.com wrote:
>This is certainly a standard, old question but I figure I'd ask
>anyway:
>
>I've got a little (app. 900 sf) 2-bedroom 1-story house, insulated
>reasonably well - when I'm in I keep the thermostat at 82 degrees and
>with a fan in the room it's comfortable. When I leave for my 9-to-5
>job I bump the therm. up to 85, but at these temperatures the a/c is
>still going quite a bit in my absence (the place is certainly
>comfortable when I step back in, but it would be after a 20-mile
>commute).
>Is it more efficient to just shut the a/c off when I'm gone - does it
>take a lot of energy to bring the temp back down from a standing
>start, as it were?
>
>VMacek
>
>
>
Have you considered a programmable thermostat? Easy to install, very
convenient (makes the temp changes for you) and tends to pay for
themselves within months. They even have models that adjust
differently on the weekend vs. weekdays.
You can optimize energy usage by perhaps setting the temp to 82 about
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To answer your question, it does take significant energy to recool the
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as the cost to cool will essentially offset the savings (for all
practical purposes) while the unit is off as the temp is increasing.
The savings is primarily due to less energy maintaining at 90F vs. 82F,
not the warm up portion..
The same advantages can be realized with heating, provided you are not
using electrical (resistance) type heating as typical backup for heat
pumps.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 7:38 am
From: Logan Shaw
vmacekesq@yahoo.com wrote:
> Is it more efficient to just shut the a/c off when I'm gone - does it
> take a lot of energy to bring the temp back down from a standing
> start, as it were?
It takes a lot of energy, but you save more energy. Every bit of extra
energy it takes to bring down the temperature is equally offset by energy
saved when the temperature is rising and the A/C unit is sitting idle.
The only real disadvantage is the inconvenience of having to wait for it
to finish bringing the temperature down when you get home. That can
take hours in some cases, and the cost savings of turning it completely
off (as opposed to just changing the set point to 85F) might not be
enough to justify it.
- Logan
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 10:39 am
From: Rick
vmacekesq@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> This is certainly a standard, old question but I figure I'd ask
> anyway:
>
> I've got a little (app. 900 sf) 2-bedroom 1-story house, insulated
> reasonably well - when I'm in I keep the thermostat at 82 degrees and
> with a fan in the room it's comfortable. When I leave for my 9-to-5
> job I bump the therm. up to 85, but at these temperatures the a/c is
> still going quite a bit in my absence (the place is certainly
> comfortable when I step back in, but it would be after a 20-mile
> commute).
> Is it more efficient to just shut the a/c off when I'm gone - does it
> take a lot of energy to bring the temp back down from a standing
> start, as it were?
>
> VMacek
Shut it off. If you are gone for work at least 9 hours a day I would
have to say that it's costing you far more money to keep it running for
those extra 9 hours than any extra load on the system to get the home
back to a reasonable temperature when you return and start it. (It sure
won't take 9 hours to get the temperature and humidity levels back to a
comfortable range.) The compressor might have to run more initially when
you return, but while you are away the fan is running constantly and
eating up dollars in energy expenditure, even if the compressor is only
cycling slightly less when you aren't there.
The sure way to tell is try it both ways for a month and compare your
electric bills. But I'd bet the farm it's costing you far more to run it
an extra 9 hours a day when you aren't there.
Rick
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 7:48 am
From: TwoAllBeefPatties
Rod, do you like that 80's music band 'Australian Crawl'? I remember
their Siroco album as being a good listen. What do you think?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 9:08 am
From: "OhioGuy"
Our Kodak Easyshare C315 digital camera died during our recent vacation.
It cost about $100, and was just over a year old. When I turn it on now,
there is a red LED on the front that will blink for a while, then it just
stays on. No signs of life from the color LCD screen. I've removed the SD
card, put in fresh batteries, and even opened up the unit and tried blowing
dust out of the main control on the top. Nothing makes any difference.
My big question is this: is it worth taking this sort of thing to a repair
shop, or would I be better off finding another $100 digital camera?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 9:33 am
From: Frank Olson
rabbid wrote:
> this bunch has online support for diy. look out rlb. frank prob wont be
> able to shut them down like he did u.
>
>
I was not responsible for Robert having to "shut down" his monitoring
business. That belongs to the great State of Florida. I notice that
"Alarm Relay" provides no information about licensing (in some states
the central station as well as the staff are required to have
licensing). There's more information here:
http://www.yoursecuritysource.com/licensing.htm
Besides the OP was looking for a cheap *local* solution. He's obviously
not interested in a security system if he's looking for something he can
shut off with a circuit breaker (and that obviously won't work in the
absence of power).
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TOPIC: how often do you turn on your basement dehumdifier?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 10:27 am
From: Rick
Logan Shaw wrote:
>
> Joe wrote:
> > I have a humid basement - hovers around 80 degrees on it's own - but
> > it's not damp. I keep a fan running 24/7 and that keeps any musty
> > smells at bay. If I run my dehumdifier for an hour it gets the
> > humidity down to around 60. Am I ok running it about 4 times a day for
> > an hour each time or should I keep it running continuously? It uses
> > about as much energy as an air conditioner so I don't want to run it
> > all day unless it's absolutely necessary to keep the moisture at bay.
>
> Hmm, isn't that what a humidistat is for -- running a dehumidifier
> (or humidifier) only as much as is necessary to keep a desired
> moisture level?
>
> - Logan
Sure, but they are still expensive to run. Dehumidifiers havn't climbed
on the "Energy Star bandwagon" yet. Even with tweaking the control on
ours all the time to make sure it isn't running more than it needs to,
it can still jump our electric bill by about 1/3 during the summer
months. I think the point the OP was making was would it still work
enough if he only had it turned on four times a day rather than letting
it do it's own thing being plugged in 24/7.
Rick
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Aug 11 2007 10:40 am
From: Wayne Sallee
Logan Shaw wrote on 8/10/2007 10:16 PM:
> And, trust me, replacing the windshield is not cheap. I had to do it on
> my current car, and if it costs $50 to prevent it, it's worth $50.
>
> Not only that, on a 1969 Ford van, it might be "interesting" trying to
> find the part. And the last thing you want on any vehicle is some
> third-party replacement glass that doesn't quite fit right. Or
> perfectly-good glass that isn't installed right and leaks.
>
> IMHO, there are two roads (so to speak) you can go down with that van
> now. You can either pay a little right now and be sure this problem
> doesn't get worse and be happy, or you can take your chances. And if
> you take your chances, you might have to track down a part, pay a lot
> of money, and still not get good results.
>
> - Logan
Or if you drive an old vehicle that is not worth
anything and the window leaks anyway, then you look
at it a little different :-) But if you have a nice
car, then you'd best get it fixed professionally
right away :-)
Wayne Sallee
Webmaster@LeesburgNazarene.org
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