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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 2:03 am
From: Audie Murphy's Ghost
In article <5mom7pFecdofU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Audie Murphy's Ghost <takebackamerica@2008.com> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >> It isnt practical to have them on every street corner demanding ID
> >> of everyone who passes, and fools like you would be howling if
> >> they did that.
>
> > So those who object to having ID demanded of passersby for no
> > reason at all are "fools"?
>
> Nope, fools like that particular fools are fools. Thats why the words
> 'like you' were included, fool.
>
> <reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead
> flushed where it belongs>
In other words, you're babbling nonsense again. Big surprise there.
BTW, I posted one line, and it was a decent question, even if you were
too damn dumb to answer it.
== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 2:14 am
From: clams casino
William December Starr wrote:
>In article <NMxNi.9721$Bq3.8415@newsfe18.lga>,
>clams casino <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> said:
>
>
>
>>Hint - there are legal ways to inter the country and illegal ways.
>>
>>What part of illegal is difficult for you to understand?
>>
>>
>
>The obvious counter-question being "Okay, it's illegal... now, what
>part of 'Some illegal acts are worse than others and not everybody
>is as obsessed with this particular one as you are?' don't _you_ get?"
>
>
>
Actually - I don't.
Explain how being an illegal immigrant is better (for the US) than being
a legal one.
Other than perhaps (for the illegal) bypassing the line for all those
who are attempting to get here legally.
== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 2:35 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Audie Murphy's Ghost <takebackamerica@2008.com> wrote:
> In article <5mom7pFecdofU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Audie Murphy's Ghost <takebackamerica@2008.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>> It isnt practical to have them on every street corner demanding ID
>>>> of everyone who passes, and fools like you would be howling if
>>>> they did that.
>>
>>> So those who object to having ID demanded of passersby for no
>>> reason at all are "fools"?
>>
>> Nope, fools like that particular fools are fools. Thats why the words
>> 'like you' were included, fool.
<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>
Nothing left, wota surprise.
== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 4:04 am
From: Thanatos
In article <gi4eg31ubkb8m8rec1d9979h5a9h8m4uo3@4ax.com>,
Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 20:51:37 -0400, Thanatos <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <08rcg3ddol60pii4r0e88b9t2vmqnrdb88@4ax.com>,
> > Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:24:08 -0230, cloud dreamer
> >> <Global_Warming@is.real> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Rob Jensen wrote:
> >> >> On Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:36:09 -0230, cloud dreamer
> >> >> <Global_Warming@is.real> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Funny how guys like Bill will whine over illegal immigrants but is
> >> >>> happy
> >> >>> to buy cheap strawberries made possible only by their labour. I doubt
> >> >>> he'd be willing to bend over and pick in the hot sun for their wages.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, my thing as a flaming liberal wouldn't be to slam the illegal
> >> >> immigrants with any more penalties. The only thing to do is to go
> >> >> after the real lawbreakers
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Then you need to start at the top and export George to The Hague.
> >>
> >> OK! Let's do it! Well, the ICC will drag him, Cheney, Rumsfeld and
> >> Gonzales off to trials for their War Crimes sooner or later.
> >
> >No, it won't.
> >
> >The ICC has no jurisdiction in the U.S.
>
> That won't hold up in the eyes of the US people,
Actually, every time the U.S. populace is polled, the majority supports
the US staying out of the ICC.
> much less the ICC or the UN, when it happens
Who cares what the ICC or the UN think? An organization that puts Syria
on its Human Rights committee has no credibility.
> -- the Cheney Hegemony has clearly committed war crimes. And
> frankly, when they come for the Shrub, Cheney, Rumsfeld and
> Gonzales, nobody but the Faux Noisehounds will even attempt
> to stick up for them.
There will be a helluva lot more than a news network standing against
them if foreign military or law enforcement personnel attempt to operate
on US soil.
> >[And to head off the inevitable ad hominems: please don't construe this
> >response as support for the Bush Administration.]
>
> No worries. I didn't take it that way. Okay, *because* of the
> qualifier. [vbeg!] If we're ever in the same bar during the War
> Crimes trials, I'll buy ya a glass.
Well, they'll have to be trials in absentia but you're on.
== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 4:07 am
From: Thanatos
In article <4706f4d6$0$20655$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
FDR <nospam@asdfkdskkl.com> wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
> > FDR <nospam@asdfkdskkl.com> wrote
> >> Yeah, well then where are all the goons?
> >
> > At the borders, stupid.
>
> Bullshit. Millions don't get in if there's an effective
> border patrol. The patrol is like swiss cheese. And the
> government doesn't care all that much that it is.
But the people do-- in overwhelming numbers. Slowly but surely the
politicians are starting to get that message, some of them only after
they've been tossed out on their asses.
== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 8:51 am
From: bearclaw@cruller.invalid
In article <atropos-96713F.20294205102007@news.giganews.com>,
Thanatos <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> I again refer you to that peculiar mindset I've seen elsewhere,
> regarding other issues of crime and law enforcement, which says that
> if enough minorities choose to break a given law, society is no
> longer morally allowed to enforce that law because it becomes de
> facto "unfair" to those minorities and anyone who does try and
> enforce it becomes a racist per se.
Refer away, I have no clue what you are talking about. I'm talking
about an issue-- "illegal immigrants-- being pushed by those with a
cut-and-dried racist agenda. What are you talking about? And why do you
need to reach outside the topic to justify your opinion?
> The fact that a large number of Latinos choose to break this law
> hardly makes those who enforce it racist.
It does when they are not sworn officers of the law (as in
"Minuteman"). Just like homosexuals, being a flaming racist doesn't
make you not a racist.
> This reminds me of the "community activists" in Dallas several years
> ago that were calling the police department racist because 70% of the
> people arrested for murder that year were black.
Because *you* consider this fact to be irrelevant? To have no impact on
the crime or the enforcement of the laws against it? You think it
doesn't bear examination, so it should be ignored? You also seem to
think that crossing the border without documentation is equivalent to
murder, since you continue to push the comparison.
I think your judgement leaves a lot to be desired.
> Apparently in the minds of these "community activists", the mere fact
> that blacks were choosing to commit murder in much higher numbers
> than anyone else meant the the cops in Dallas should just stop
> enforcing the homicide laws.
Again, I really doubt anyone was saying anything like that, although
you might have heard that because it is an easy position to stand
against.
> It's a bizarre argument to make.
It should be, you made it up.
> Just for clarity, what exactly is the racial percentage of offenders
> such that once the threshold is crossed, we're no longer allowed
> enforce a given law without being racists?
You are racist until you are not. You decide.
> you haven't been paying attention.
I have been trying desperately not to pay any attention to what I
consider a distraction to real issues; trying to ignore what I consider
a waste of time and effort, but those like you who demand like infants
they be heard make it practically impossible to ignore.
> Try getting into Japan sometime without legal permission
I wondered when you would bring up island nations without frontiers to
other nations. And you accuse me of bullshit.
> Or even Mexico. Get caught there without legal status and you go to
> prison. Not catch-and-release, not deportation. Prison.
Mexican borders are crossed every single day in both directions without
any official documentation whatsoever.
> You elitist asshole.
You racist, dung-eating worm.
> You know nothing about me.
Much more than I ever wanted to know. I would have been just as happy
if you stayed under your rock.
> I'm married to a "brown person". My kids are "brown people".
What, you mean their avatars? Well, I'm Bill Gates. I'm married to
Melinda.
> there are plenty of "brown people" who stood in line, took the
> classes, filled out the forms and waited their turn to become
> citizens who feel exactly as I do.
Yeah, how about some more numbers? You can just pull 'em right out of
the same hat!
> I suppose they hate themselves, too? That's the typical response from
> morons like you who think everyone must be a racist if they don't
> love the idea of millions of people flooding into this country and
> using the taxpayers to subsidize everything from their health care to
> their kids' education.
Tsk. Typical overwrought handwringing of a soulless pansy who can't
understand that his issue is as worthless as the rest of his life.
> I couldn't give two shits what color they are
As long as you can hate 'em and hurt 'em right? That's all that gives
your worthless life meaning, after all.
> I'm sure you won't believe this because you see bogeyman racists
> hiding in every shadow but I would feel *exactly* the same way if we
> had millions of Canadians coming at us from the other direction.
Dude, I wouldn't believe your story if the title was "Water is Wet". How
many times do you need to hear it?
Go take care of your imaginary family and leave the real world to the
rest of us. Don't worry, the grownups won't let the Mexicans get you.
== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 8:55 am
From: bearclaw@cruller.invalid
In article <atropos-575347.20492905102007@news.giganews.com>,
Thanatos <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
> In article <bearclaw-8B4B7E.17525205102007@news.supernews.com>,
> bearclaw@cruller.invalid wrote:
>
> > In article <RPyNi.107992$GO6.96142@newsfe21.lga>,
> > clams casino <PeterGriffin@drunkin-clam.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Any examples of which (illegal) groups are being over looked?
> >
> > How about the guys that piloted the planes into the WTC?
>
> They weren't here illegally. They were actually documented foreign
> nationals. Unfortunately.
Really? So then, how about illegals who have plotted or carried out
similar actions?
What? There aren't any?
== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 11:01 am
From: Rob Jensen
On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 07:04:28 -0400, Thanatos <atropos@mac.com> wrote:
>> much less the ICC or the UN, when it happens
>
>Who cares what the ICC or the UN think? An organization that puts Syria
>on its Human Rights committee has no credibility.
Actually, that (and the simultaneous removal of the US from the HRC)
were deliberate and entirely justified snubs of the US in which the UN
says, "Despite Syria's obvious shortcomings, it's more moral on the
subject of Human Rights than the US is."
It's an entirely accurate (and IMO entirely justifiable reflection of
the regards of the rest of the world, even our allies, has for the US
on the subject of human rights.
>> -- the Cheney Hegemony has clearly committed war crimes. And
>> frankly, when they come for the Shrub, Cheney, Rumsfeld and
>> Gonzales, nobody but the Faux Noisehounds will even attempt
>> to stick up for them.
>
>There will be a helluva lot more than a news network standing against
>them if foreign military or law enforcement personnel attempt to operate
>on US soil.
Which won't happen. I think they'll be handed over to the ICC on a
silver platter. Not necessarily by whoever the eventual new president
is, either.
>> >[And to head off the inevitable ad hominems: please don't construe this
>> >response as support for the Bush Administration.]
>>
>> No worries. I didn't take it that way. Okay, *because* of the
>> qualifier. [vbeg!] If we're ever in the same bar during the War
>> Crimes trials, I'll buy ya a glass.
>
>Well, they'll have to be trials in absentia but you're on.
Cool!
(Won't be trials in absentia, either, but, hey, that's a great subject
for a bet! ;) )
-- Rob
--
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It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
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victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 12:19 pm
From: Audie Murphy's Ghost
In article <5mp37tFej068U1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Audie Murphy's Ghost <takebackamerica@2008.com> wrote:
> > In article <5mom7pFecdofU1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed
> > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Audie Murphy's Ghost <takebackamerica@2008.com> wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >>
> >>>> It isnt practical to have them on every street corner demanding ID
> >>>> of everyone who passes, and fools like you would be howling if
> >>>> they did that.
> >>
> >>> So those who object to having ID demanded of passersby for no
> >>> reason at all are "fools"?
> >>
> >> Nope, fools like that particular fools are fools. Thats why the words
> >> 'like you' were included, fool.
>
> <reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where
> it belongs>
>
> Nothing left, wota surprise.
And so here you are, endlessly copying and pasting a half-assed "reply"
again, like a two-year-old monkey playing with his own turds.
Everybody's noticed, Ook Ook. You're not worth anyone's time, least of
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 7:12 am
From: Bama Brian
HeyBub wrote:
> salty@dog.com wrote:
>> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:20:07 -0700,
>> aaaaaaaadftdfgdfgdfgdfgdgdf@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Has never voted to raise taxes.
>>> Has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
>>> Has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
>>> Has never voted to raise congressional pay.
>>> Has never taken a government-paid junket.
>>> Has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
>>> Does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
>>> http://www.rupaul2008.com/
>> Same could be said for Ru Paul!
>>
>> http://www.rupaul.com/gallery/index.shtml
>
> Libertarians are much like the Celtic warriors hired by the English kings of
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--
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Libertarian
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 8:13 am
From: John McWilliams
jJim McLaughlin wrote:
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 8:23 am
From: John McWilliams
Bama Brian wrote:
> HeyBub wrote:
>> salty@dog.com wrote:
>>> On Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:20:07 -0700,
>>> aaaaaaaadftdfgdfgdfgdfgdgdf@googlemail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has never voted to raise taxes.
>>>> Has never voted for an unbalanced budget.
>>>> Has never voted for a federal restriction on gun ownership.
>>>> Has never voted to raise congressional pay.
>>>> Has never taken a government-paid junket.
>>>> Has never voted to increase the power of the executive branch.
>>>> Does not participate in the lucrative congressional pension program.
>>>> http://www.rupaul2008.com/
>>> Same could be said for Ru Paul!
>>>
>>> http://www.rupaul.com/gallery/index.shtml
>>
>> Libertarians are much like the Celtic warriors hired by the English
>> kings of old; fierce, brave, loyal as hell. You just don't want them
>> actually running things.
>
> Oh? Why? Even the 'murrican pipples want their pollytishuns to do what
> they say they'll do. "Read my lips. No new taxes." said Bush the
> elder, who then raised taxes, and lost his reelection.
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> In article <47060e3a$0$20615$4c368...@roadrunner.com>,
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>
>
>
>
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> > > On Oct 4, 9:55 pm, Anthony Matonak
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>
> > From a metapage that defines "blind link"
> >http://www.metaglossary.com/meanings/658878/
>
> > : a link to somewhere which doesn't clearly indicate where this link
> > : goes to, or doesn't accurately suggest what the link is about
> > ...
> > : a link to which another site, but does not clearly indicate where the
> > : link goes (it may even be deceptive)
>
> > You still haven't given the slightest suggestion why someone would
> > want to click on that link or what it contains.
>
> Yup, and only fools click on web links on the basis of such a posting
> from a complete stranger. This sort of thing is a perfect vector for
> infecting a Windows machine with a virus, key tracking software, or
> other unfriendly software.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
No...any frugal person ignores the Black Friday of the Christmas
shopping season.
If you shop frugally during the year as I do, you always beat any
pricing that the retailers parade on Black friday.
Their seasonal sales this year are going to be dismal....a
disaster....a bloodbath.
Therefore that is why you are seeing Christmas merchandise already
being pushed for over a month now.
Just sit back and watch how the Bush economy really is doing.....
TMT
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TOPIC: Free NIVEA Smooth Indulgence Hand Cream
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 10:25 am
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TOPIC: Mejicanos unidos nunca desaparecidos1
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 12:33 pm
From: "|| |||| ||| ||||||"
somos aqui, manajarlos sus papeles-mismos, chingones. primera, danenos
papeles para trabajar, sin noticia, dejalos entonces. verguenza a todos
ustedes.
La Comite para Mas Mejicanos Al Internet
LaC-MAI
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 2:32 pm
From: Jim Higgins
|| |||| ||| |||||| wrote:
<press 2 to be deported until you learn English>
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TOPIC: we accept paypal Wholesale nike air jordans adidas puma bape,from www.
nikekickcoo.com,China
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 1:39 pm
From: "|| |||| ||| |||||| |||"
<linda.ch26@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1191639934.174494.56700@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
> Dear sir or madam,
> we accept paypal We are the one of the biggest suppliers in China for
> shoes and
> clothing our website:1.http://www.nikekickcoo.com MSN&E-
> mail:nikebran...@hotmail.com and nikebran...@yahoo.com &We sell all
> kinds of brand shoes,as belows,
> &Nike:Shox(TN,TL,NZ,oz,R3,R4,Turbo,Ride)//max James(1-4)//Dunk//
> Kobe//
> Jordan(1-22)//Airforce1//&Adidas:TMC//Coloradidas//Goodyear&Puma///
> Gucci///Prade///Timberland///Bapestar/// &&We also sell brand
> clothes,
> we sell many kinds of clothes,as below: bape,
> bbc,arfuldodger,coogi,LRG
> ,evisu,lacoste,polo,adhardy.LRG,abercrombie,replay
> ,seven,citizenso,humanity,antik,rock&republic..... ..
> all of our products are with Original box, card, label, No matter
> where you are in the world, you can order all these goods in very
> minimum quantity and receive it very and fast and safety. Pls feel
> free to contact us.
> hongfeng trade co,.ltd www.nikekickcoo.com
I'll bet these folks here really appreciate the cheap foreign goods - way
better to have sweatshop Asians build your stuff where you can't see it than
have Mexicans build it right in front of your face in regular factories.
>
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TOPIC: Sweatshop workers in the U.S.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 1:39 pm
From: "|| |||| ||| |||||| |||"
You cheap folks should know where they are.
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TOPIC: Wichita Massacre Revisited
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 6 2007 1:56 pm
From: Ted
On Oct 6, 11:40 am, Miro <9xc4pkk52zip.2.r...@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
> Oct 6, 2007
>
> Wichita Massacre Revisited
>
> This is one of the most horrendous black on white murders
> this country has ever known and almost nobody has ever heard
> of it. This is known as a hush crime, a crime the media
> covers up because the perpetrators are black and the media
> doesn't want white folk knowing about them because it might
> cast some doubt on the media contrived idea of diversity and
> tolerance.
>
> GO HERE TO VIEW VIDEO
>
> http://pcapostate.blogspot.com/2007/10/wichita-massacre-revisited.html
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