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* Is America waiting for the automatic bike? - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* VOIP/ Basic Phone Service - 4 messages, 3 authors
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* Cataract surgery... DO NOT WIGGLE YOUR EYE! - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Is America waiting for the automatic bike?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8219630bbcdae831?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 2 2011 10:21 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign"
On Mar 2, 8:52 pm, Wes Newell <w.new...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 05:56:00 -0800, His Highness the TibetanMonkey,
> originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote:
>
> > Apparently it's not.
>
> Why would it be waiting for it? It's been around for years already.
It says in the article that many people are not even aware of it. Why
should they be when they are not advertised anywhere?
"People aren't really aware these systems exist," Browning says.
"We're just at the start."
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 6:35 pm
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">
On 3/2/2011 7:15 PM, Mike A Schwab wrote:
> [...]
>> Does anyone know any bike with Browning automatic? It senses torque as
>> > well as speed.
> A co-workers spouse got one, really liked it.[...]
<http://www.philaord.com/products/bar.html>?
--
T�m Sherm�n - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 9:43 pm
From: Wes Newell
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 22:21:07 -0800, His Highness the TibetanMonkey,
originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote:
> On Mar 2, 8:52 pm, Wes Newell <w.new...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 05:56:00 -0800, His Highness the TibetanMonkey,
>> originator of the Stop the Bullshit Campaign wrote:
>>
>> > Apparently it's not.
>>
>> Why would it be waiting for it? It's been around for years already.
>
> It says in the article that many people are not even aware of it. Why
> should they be when they are not advertised anywhere?
>
> "People aren't really aware these systems exist," Browning says. "We're
> just at the start."
The problems with the automatic bicycle transmission systems is twofold.
The first is that they are expensive by comparison. And the second is it
isn't that difficult to shift gears on a bike. Even a one armed person
can do it easily.
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TOPIC: VOIP/ Basic Phone Service
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 4:48 am
From: Jeff Thies
I'd like to add basic phone service to a rental house.
There seems to be a wide array of VOIP options. Any
experience/recommendations.
Jeff
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 4:04 pm
From: a real cheapskate
On Mar 3, 7:48 am, Jeff Thies <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
> I'd like to add basic phone service to a rental house.
>
> There seems to be a wide array of VOIP options. Any
> experience/recommendations.
>
> Jeff
well obviously they all require internet access, are you going to
provide that too?
for many americans just cell is becoming the norm.
with the tenants really want a VOIP phone?
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 6:22 pm
From: Jeff Thies
On 3/3/2011 7:04 PM, a real cheapskate wrote:
> On Mar 3, 7:48 am, Jeff Thies<jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
>> I'd like to add basic phone service to a rental house.
>>
>> There seems to be a wide array of VOIP options. Any
>> experience/recommendations.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> well obviously they all require internet access, are you going to
> provide that too?
Of course.
>
> for many americans just cell is becoming the norm.
But not all.
>
> with the tenants really want a VOIP phone?
I have one that needs a phone. Hence my post. I believe you have nothing
further to add.
Jeff
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 9:44 pm
From: Gordon
Jeff Thies <jeff_thies@att.net> wrote in
news:ikpidm$85c$1@news.albasani.net:
> On 3/3/2011 7:04 PM, a real cheapskate wrote:
>> On Mar 3, 7:48 am, Jeff Thies<jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
>>> I'd like to add basic phone service to a rental house.
>>>
>>> There seems to be a wide array of VOIP options. Any
>>> experience/recommendations.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>
>> well obviously they all require internet access, are you going to
>> provide that too?
>
> Of course.
>>
>> for many americans just cell is becoming the norm.
>
> But not all.
>>
>> with the tenants really want a VOIP phone?
>
> I have one that needs a phone. Hence my post. I believe you have
> nothing further to add.
>
> Jeff
>
>
Since when is it the landlord's responsibility to provide
internet and phone service for the tenents? They can go out
and get their own service.
On the other hand. If you want to provide the service as a
value added service. We just had a long drawn out discussion here
about Land line alternitives. So I'll add in my $.02 worth.
I have been using a service called Phone Power for almost a year.
I have had very good service. The response of their english
speaking CSRs has been excelent. The price is at least half
that of Vonage (one of the better known services) but Phone
Power has many more features. Also, Phone Power provides for free,
some of the features that Vonage charges extra for.
Setup is easy. Phone Power provides you with a Phone Power Adaptor
(Technicly an ATA). It's a bit bigger than a pack of cigarettes.
You plug it into your network, and a standard phone plugs into
the adaptor. Calls are made and recieved as usual. Your computer
is not used at all for any part of the call process. If you are
careful, you can hook the ATA to your internal phone wireing.
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TOPIC: up side of gas prices
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 7:51 am
From: Lamumba
fewer "cowboyz" and their macho trucks.
--
Karma, What a concept!
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 8:38 am
From: me@privacy.net
Lamumba <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:
>fewer "cowboyz" and their macho trucks.
no shit!
we have these HUGE diesel trucks here that spew black
fumes and literally block vision going down road
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TOPIC: Cataract surgery... DO NOT WIGGLE YOUR EYE!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 4:24 pm
From: RicodJour
On Mar 1, 10:28 pm, phil scott <p...@philscott.net> wrote:
>
> Now looking around the starbucks, the laptop screen is glarring white
> I can't see the typing, but looking around the room I can see the
> furniture and the people not so bad. about twice as good as 10 hours
> ago. the only reason I can type is that the other eye still works
> pretty good, but coffee stained.
Starbucks...? Hmmm, I think I know why your eyes are/were coffee-
stained, Phil. Try to cut back to ten or fifteen cups a day, and not
Grandes. ;) Oh, lest you misinterpret that - that emoticon is a
wink, not a representation of your one good eye!
R
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TOPIC: Rod vs. Ed... you be the referee
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 6:22 pm
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">
On 3/2/2011 1:13 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
> I have had some of my worst arguments with libertarians. I hate the whole
> breed. I understand progressive liberals since I was once one myself. I have
> had some very nasty augments with conservatives too. You get too
> conservative with me at your peril. After all, there is such a thing as the
> social contract. Even a nut like Rousseau was not totally wrong about
> everything.[...]
The current political philosophy in the US is a social safety net for
the rich, to protect their wealth; but social Darwinism for the working
classes.
--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 6:24 pm
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">
On 3/2/2011 3:53 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
> Unfortunately private charities never seem to do much. They only want to
> help those who they deem "deserving".[...]
And to proselytize the less fortunate.
--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 8:13 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net wrote
> Edward Dolan wrote
>> I have had some of my worst arguments with libertarians. I hate the
>> whole breed. I understand progressive liberals since I was once one
>> myself. I have had some very nasty augments with conservatives too.
>> You get too conservative with me at your peril. After all, there is
>> such a thing as the social contract. Even a nut like Rousseau was
>> not totally wrong about everything.[...]
> The current political philosophy in the US is a social safety net for the rich, to protect their wealth;
Thats not a social safetynet and it didnt protect the customers of Madoff either.
> but social Darwinism for the working classes.
Mindlessly silly, most obviously with unemployment money.
== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 8:15 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net wrote
> Edward Dolan wrote
>> Unfortunately private charities never seem to do much.
Thats a lie with the Salvos.
>> They only want to help those who they deem "deserving".
Another lie.
> And to proselytize the less fortunate.
The Salvos dont.
== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 8:23 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote in
message news:ikpich$cr8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 3/2/2011 1:13 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> > [...]
>> I have had some of my worst arguments with libertarians. I hate the whole
>> breed. I understand progressive liberals since I was once one myself. I
>> have
>> had some very nasty augments with conservatives too. You get too
>> conservative with me at your peril. After all, there is such a thing as
>> the
>> social contract. Even a nut like Rousseau was not totally wrong about
>> everything.[...]
>
> The current political philosophy in the US is a social safety net for the
> rich, to protect their wealth; but social Darwinism for the working
> classes.
Even so, we have a democracy where tens of millions of folks vote every few
years and so things can always be changed. However, I think things have to
hit rock bottom before any change can ever take place.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 8:32 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8tb7b3Fvj6U1@mid.individual.net...
> T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net wrote
>> Edward Dolan wrote
>
>>> Unfortunately private charities never seem to do much.
>
> Thats a lie with the Salvos.
The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying?
>>> They only want to help those who they deem "deserving".
>
> Another lie.
The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying?
>> And to proselytize the less fortunate.
>
> The Salvos dont.
The hell you say! How do we know you are not lying?
== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 8:38 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8tb783Fv0rU1@mid.individual.net...
> T�m Sherm�nT �_�" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net wrote
>> Edward Dolan wrote
>
>>> I have had some of my worst arguments with libertarians. I hate the
>>> whole breed. I understand progressive liberals since I was once one
>>> myself. I have had some very nasty augments with conservatives too.
>>> You get too conservative with me at your peril. After all, there is
>>> such a thing as the social contract. Even a nut like Rousseau was
>>> not totally wrong about everything.[...]
>
>> The current political philosophy in the US is a social safety net for the
>> rich, to protect their wealth;
>
> Thats not a social safetynet and it didnt protect the customers of Madoff
> either.
Poor RS cannot tell the difference between crooks and legitimate businesses.
But RS is quite correct that there is no safety net for the rich. The bigger
they are, the harder they fall.
>> but social Darwinism for the working classes.
>
> Mindlessly silly, most obviously with unemployment money.
It is just enough to get by on. No one is getting rich on unemployment
money.
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 8:05 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
Campaign" <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ecd7fec1-5624-4b08-b0b0-82326d6a7231@b13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> Oh thanks. It saved me the trouble to answer but nobody cares what he
thinks anyway.
> May I remind him we all have an African ancestor in our evolution
tree, though he seems rather Australopitecus.
That should be Australopithecus, but that is just the librarian-scholar in
me. You have got him pegged perfectly.
Regards,
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 8:16 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Mr Ed the donkey Dolan wrote just the puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 8:26 pm
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">
On 3/3/2011 10:05 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the Bullshit
> Campaign"<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ecd7fec1-5624-4b08-b0b0-82326d6a7231@b13g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> [...]
>> Oh thanks. It saved me the trouble to answer but nobody cares what he
> thinks anyway.
>
>> May I remind him we all have an African ancestor in our evolution
> tree, though he seems rather Australopitecus.
>
> That should be Australopithecus, but that is just the librarian-scholar in
> me. You have got him pegged perfectly.
More like Piltdown Man. ;)
--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.
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Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 10:24 pm
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TOPIC: Car runs down Critical Mass in Brazil
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 10:53 pm
From: Jym Dyer
> ... well CM as an act is designed to piss people off.
=v= No it isn't. Pretty sleazy to use a tragedy as
a springboard for making up negative motivations to
misattribute to people.
<_Jym_>
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Mar 3 2011 10:57 pm
From: Jym Dyer
The insult to Tibetans and Monkeys writes:
> Sometimes I think CM are coordinated by Big Oil, just
> to make the drivers look good.
=v= I highly doubt the "sometimes I think" part of this
message. Note that we're nominally talking about a driver
who is now imprisoned, which isn't what I call looking good.
=v= Every location on the North American continent that is
enjoying new bike-friendly policies, infrastructure, and a
burgeoning of ridership is a location where Critical Mass has
thrived for the previous decade or longer. Reality suggests
quite the opposite of your unthinking opinion.
<_Jym_>
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