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TOPIC: SSN for Job Applications
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 11 2010 8:28 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 08/11/10 17:28, George wrote:
> Unfortunately lots of employers use Simple Simon procedures for hiring.
> Run the resumes through a buzzword screener to check for a match and if
> yes perform easy checks such as running a credit check. This is instead
> of putting some thought into it and inviting folks in for an interview.
Yes. This is what HR does. No brain involved, as whould be obvious to
anyone who has spent any time with an HR person. When you get 300
resumes for one opening, you HAVE to figure out a way of getting rid of
all but 20 real candidates. And 20 is conservative; no manager wants
to have to decide among even 10 people unless it's a REALLY important
opening, in which case it will be filled without HR's involvement except
for processing the paperwork after the decision is made.
Note: I was sort of pushed into the HR function and was disgusted by
what I saw -- especially at the company-wide HR meetings. Don't ask.
That's why they ask for degrees when practical experience may (or may
not) be a better qualification -- remember, the initial screening is
more or less mechanical, not requiring any judgment. Being able to
easily check whether you have a criminal record or are a deadbeat is
just one more useful weeding tool.
Look at it this way: Always complain when you get bad service at a
restaurant; there are probably 50 people waiting who need the job as
much as the crappy waiter does, and half of them will probably be better
waiters and hence more deserving of the job. Incompetence should never
be rewarded.
Providing good references is useless -- managers are instructed to NEVER
tell anything about a former employee except maybe job title, employment
period and salary; anything else opens up the possibility of a lawsuit.
Example: only after the employee was escorted from the premises
under guard was I able to get his former manager to open up and tell me
what a total shithead the guy was, and he only told me that after I told
him about what the jerk had done while he was working for us. If he'd
told me the truth before we hired the jerk a whole lot of grief would
have been saved, but NOOOOOO. It's probably worse now.
If you have to work for somebody else you're at the mercy of his
organization. Complaining does no good, just learn how to best
manipulate the system to YOUR advantage.
--
Cheers, Bev
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must spend restarting windows and then determining how many work weeks
that would correspond to." -- Trygve Lode
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 6:20 am
From: Napoleon
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 19:01:09 -0400, MAS <mas@bbbb.net> wrote:
>Some employers are now checking your credit status before they hire.
This is not a credit check. You must specify to the person that you
are doing a credit check. The application says NOTHING about a credit
check. It's a simple application. You don't agree to a credit check
just because you fill out an application, you must specifically agree
to a credit check (I have always had to fill out a special form
agreeing to a credit check which lists the rights you have to the
information).
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 6:25 am
From: Napoleon
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 07:38:46 -0700, "Bill"
<billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Maybe they are running a credit, criminal, and drivers license check?
No. They can't without your specific consent. There is no specific
consent on the application.
>Then what people think of others is often a reflection of themselves. If
>someone is honest, they would tend to think others are honest and trust
>others. If someone is dishonest, they would tend to think others are
>dishonest as well. So the way someone responds to the request for their SSN
>might show if the person is trusting of others or not. Also can the person
>do what is requested of them, or is the person going to be a trouble maker
>constantly informing the manager of what his/her "rights" are, etc.?
OMG. I never expected this answer. Oh well, it's a post 911 world. The
next time you get your identity stolen (as I have), get back to me and
let me know if you will "comply" with any request to give your SSN.
As for being a troublemaker, I can't believe how far America has
fallen to "being a good little German."
>The company is hiring a total stranger. They are best to find out as much as
>possible about the job applicant before hiring...
Then specifically ask for a credit/background check, which requires
the applicant to either agree or disagree. Don't ask for an SSN on the
general application. Sorry, I prefer to hide my SSN from total
strangers as well.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 7:56 am
From: "Annie Woughman"
"MAS" <mas@bbbb.net> wrote in message news:i3vh88$gvb$1@news.datemas.de...
> On 8/11/2010 7:52 PM, Annie Woughman wrote:
>>
>>
>> "MAS" <mas@bbbb.net> wrote in message
>> news:i3va3m$o4a$2@news.datemas.de...
>>> On 8/11/2010 9:19 AM, Napoleon wrote:
>>>> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
>>>> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
>>>> instead.
>>>>
>>>> I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
>>>> after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
>>>> course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
>>>> illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
>>>> job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
>>>> sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
>>>> paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
>>>> to just anyone for no reason.
>>>>
>>>> Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
>>>> for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
>>>
>>>
>>> Some employers are now checking your credit status before they hire.
>>>
>>> Marsha
>>
>> Employers have been doing credit checks for years. It is just recently
>> that some states are trying to pass laws to make credit checks illegal
>> as a condition of hiring because of the mess the economy is in. Too many
>> people have been caught in the vicious cycle of being downsized because
>> of the bad economy, making it kind of tough to meet one's financial
>> obligations, which in turn can lead to a bad credit rating--making it
>> MORE difficult to get a job in a shrinking market, continuing right into
>> a downward spiral that one might never recover from.
>
> Then these states should also make it illegal to do a credit check by
> insurance companies before they accept you or quote you a premium?
>
> Marsha
That would make sense too, however, I haven't heard anything about that in
the proposed laws. Insurance rates should be based on one's driving record,
not their credit rating. This is another hardship placed on those that
through no fault of their own are facing financial disaster--higher
insurance premiums.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 11:51 am
From: "Clincher"
"Annie Woughman" <anniewoughman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FJG8o.13189$1F6.12165@newsfe01.iad...
>
>
> "MAS" <mas@bbbb.net> wrote in message news:i3va3m$o4a$2@news.datemas.de...
>> On 8/11/2010 9:19 AM, Napoleon wrote:
>>> More and more people are asking for your social security number when
>>> you fill out a job application. I always decline and write "upon hire"
>>> instead.
>>>
>>> I remember in the 80's and early 90's that the SSN was only given
>>> after you were hired to prove that you could work in the USA (of
>>> course other forms of ID could be used instead). I believe it's
>>> illegal to ask for the SSN on a job application - what use is it? A
>>> job application is not a credit check, which supposedly safeguards
>>> sensitive info such as SSNs. A job application is just a sheet of
>>> paper anyone can get their hands on. I don't trust giving out my SSN
>>> to just anyone for no reason.
>>>
>>> Of course all the jobs where I declined to give my SSN I was not hired
>>> for. Could be a coincidence, or not.
>>
>>
>> Some employers are now checking your credit status before they hire.
>>
>> Marsha
>
> Employers have been doing credit checks for years. It is just recently
> that some states are trying to pass laws to make credit checks illegal as
> a condition of hiring because of the mess the economy is in. Too many
> people have been caught in the vicious cycle of being downsized because of
> the bad economy, making it kind of tough to meet one's financial
> obligations, which in turn can lead to a bad credit rating--making it MORE
> difficult to get a job in a shrinking market, continuing right into a
> downward spiral that one might never recover from.
The vicious circle can also come about simply because the longer one is
unemployed, the more stale his skills become - especially in areas like tech
where skills obsoletely quickly.
So what's next: a law to prohibit employer discrimination against those who
are unqualified for the job?
Laws like this don't solve the real problem which is that there are more
jobseekers than there are jobs. All they do is to take a job away from
someone who managed their credit well and give it to someone who didn't.
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TOPIC: Cycling Copenhagen through American eyes
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 1:09 am
From: Dieter Britz
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock &
the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories wrote:
> It's a hopeful video and also sad. We can make it happen, and yet the
> POLITICAL WILL is lacking. Maybe the sadness comes from the
> realization that it'll never happen. But maybe it will... right here
> in Miami Beach, almost by accident. The Velib is coming soon, and
> 1,000 bikes add safety to all. We will see...
>
> (notice these two key concepts: 'DRIVERS CAN BE TAMED' & 'THERE'S
> SAFETY IN NUMBERS')
>
> http://www.streetfilms.org/cycling-copenhagen-through-north-american-eyes/
This is not just Copenhagen, but every city big or small, all over Denmark.
Copenhagen is just the biggest, and has the densest population, also in
terms of cyclists. I live in Aarhus, and here too there are cycleways almost
everywhere, and car drivers are careful of us cyclists. The same can't be
said of a lot of cyclists wrt cars though.
My daughter lives and cycles in Copenhagen, and tells me that cyclists there
are rough on each other, sometimes actually shouldering one another out of
the way. That must be the density; it doesn't happen here in Aarhus.
--
Dieter Britz (dieterhansbritz<at>gmail.com)
== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 1:19 am
From: Frank Studt
Am 12.08.2010 00:25, schrieb TibetanMonkey
> On Aug 11, 11:53 am, Frank Studt<frank.st...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Am 11.08.2010 18:36, schrieb TibetanMonkey
>>
>>> It's a hopeful video and also sad.
>>
>> The sadest thing in the video are the bike lanes and the cycle paths and
>> the damn fools who believe they make cycling saver and better. Its a
>> lie. A before-after study for the city of Copenhagen shows that the
>> building of separated bicycle facilities worsened the safety of cyclists.
>>
>> http://www.trafitec.dk/pub/bicycle%20tracks%20and%20lanes.pdf
>
> I think two parallel systems are desirable. Few sane people would
> allow their kids through the maze created by the automobile.
Why wouldn't you let your kids drive on the road like every other
vehicle? I mean you obviously would let kids drive on small cycle lanes
directly alongside "the maze created by the automobile". BTW these
segregated cycle facilities are crossing car traffic all the time and
what kind of person would let his kid drive on the right side of a maybe
right turning vehicle? Accidents with right turning vehicles are the
most common car-bicycle-accidents and its proven that for several
reasons the segregation of cars and bicycles increases them. I gave you
a link above about an up to date study about cycling safety in
Copenhagen. Read first than talk.
>
> We saw kids there, didn't we?
Enough about the kids, yes its saver for them to drive in mixed traffic.
They can be better seen for car users and the safety rules on the road
are much easyer to follow then riding on separated facilities with a
different right of way.
>
> Is there a model anywhere in the world where such relaxed cycling is
> observed WITHOUT bike facilities?
I dont know how much you are cycling but its definitely not very
relaxing being on smallish cycle facilities with that many riders. Some
of them going alongside parking vehicles (doring zone). You might think
you are safer, but studies have proofen the opposite many times. Before
the mass motorization took place in many European citys the bicycle was
the first choice as a means of travel and there where almost no
separated facilities at all. Facilities where created to get that damn
cyclists out of the way, so cars can go faster.
>
>>
>> Actually there is no kind of scientific evidence that separated bicycle
>> facilities have a positive impact on the safety of cyclists. The
>> opposite is true (the study above is not the first that shows the
>> negative effects of cyling facilities on riders safety). There isnt even
>> a prove that more people ride bikes if you built bike lanes.
>>
>> If you want to drive save listen to what John Forester is saying:
>>
>> http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/vcvideo.html
>>
>> Or just search for vehicular cycling
>>
>> Frank
>
> So perhaps we can learn from some other model where a good chunk of
> the population rides bikes among cars. I'm all ears.
Actually Forester talks about it in his lecture i have linked above. The
people in DK or NL are not biking cause there are cycle facilities. They
are doing it cause the city structure favor it as a mode of travel and
mass motorization took place very late. Here a picture from the 50s.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/16nine/4161144794/#/
No facilities at all!
A 2004 study for NL shows that cycling is decreasing\stagnating, despite
the efforts an money put in cycling infrastructure.
Another study shows that infrastructure is of no relevance for choice of
Transport.
So why dont you take some time, read a little bit of science about
traffic choice, traffic safety, listen to what Forester has to say and
meditate a bit about. Maybe next time you are lucky and right something
useful.
Frank
== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 1:53 am
From: Tony Raven
Frank Studt wrote:
>
> I dont know how much you are cycling but its definitely not very
> relaxing being on smallish cycle facilities with that many riders.
> Some of them going alongside parking vehicles (doring zone). You
> might think you are safer, but studies have proofen the opposite many
> times. Before the mass motorization took place in many European citys
> the bicycle was the first choice as a means of travel and there where
> almost no separated facilities at all. Facilities where created to
> get that damn cyclists out of the way, so cars can go faster.
>
Moreover during the main period of cycle facility building in the
Netherlands and Germany during the 80's and early 90's, cycling levels
remained static and tracked cycling levels in other European countries
that didn't build facilities.
If you look at the Dutch Cycle Balance system for auditing cycle
friendliness of Dutch cities, the presence or absence of cycle
facilities other than cycle parking don't feature at all. So clearly
even the Dutch don't consider them an important element of their cycling.
Tony
== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 2:07 am
From: Frank Studt
Am 11.08.2010 22:50, schrieb Jim A:
> On 08/11/2010 07:53 PM, Frank Studt wrote:
>>
>> http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/vcvideo.html
>>
>> Or just search for vehicular cycling
>>
>>
>
>
> I like the style of those videos, especially the emphasis on being
> courteous to other road users. We could do with some similar videos on
> cycling in the UK (if we don't have some already).
>
I dont know about videos, but there is a book out by John Franklin about
vehicular cycling in the UK.
http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/index.html
Although i think the general principles of vehicular cycling are not
really different, you just have to exchange right for left sometimes.
Here some words by Franklin about Segragation, Vehicular Cycling and
cycling safety.
http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/vehicular.pdf
Frank
== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 5:22 am
From: Peter Cole
Frank Studt wrote:
> Am 11.08.2010 18:36, schrieb TibetanMonkey
>
>> It's a hopeful video and also sad.
>
> The sadest thing in the video are the bike lanes and the cycle paths and
> the damn fools who believe they make cycling saver and better. Its a
> lie. A before-after study for the city of Copenhagen shows that the
> building of separated bicycle facilities worsened the safety of cyclists.
>
> http://www.trafitec.dk/pub/bicycle%20tracks%20and%20lanes.pdf
>
> Actually there is no kind of scientific evidence that separated bicycle
> facilities have a positive impact on the safety of cyclists. The
> opposite is true (the study above is not the first that shows the
> negative effects of cyling facilities on riders safety). There isnt even
> a prove that more people ride bikes if you built bike lanes.
>
> If you want to drive save listen to what John Forester is saying:
>
> http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/vcvideo.html
>
> Or just search for vehicular cycling
This is a biased interpretation of that study.
Just from the abstract, "tracks" caused an increase of 10% in crashes
and injuries, and a 20% increase in cycling. A significant factor in the
increase of crashes was blamed on the removal of on-street parking and
the higher volume of turning motorists. On the whole it was felt that
the positive effects of increased cycling more than compensated for the
safety problems.
== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 6:41 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 12, 1:19 am, Frank Studt <frank.st...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 12.08.2010 00:25, schrieb TibetanMonkey
>
> > On Aug 11, 11:53 am, Frank Studt<frank.st...@gmx.net> wrote:
> >> Am 11.08.2010 18:36, schrieb TibetanMonkey
>
> >>> It's a hopeful video and also sad.
>
> >> The sadest thing in the video are the bike lanes and the cycle paths and
> >> the damn fools who believe they make cycling saver and better. Its a
> >> lie. A before-after study for the city of Copenhagen shows that the
> >> building of separated bicycle facilities worsened the safety of cyclists.
>
> >>http://www.trafitec.dk/pub/bicycle%20tracks%20and%20lanes.pdf
>
> > I think two parallel systems are desirable. Few sane people would
> > allow their kids through the maze created by the automobile.
>
> Why wouldn't you let your kids drive on the road like every other
> vehicle? I mean you obviously would let kids drive on small cycle lanes
> directly alongside "the maze created by the automobile". BTW these
> segregated cycle facilities are crossing car traffic all the time and
> what kind of person would let his kid drive on the right side of a maybe
> right turning vehicle? Accidents with right turning vehicles are the
> most common car-bicycle-accidents and its proven that for several
> reasons the segregation of cars and bicycles increases them. I gave you
> a link above about an up to date study about cycling safety in
> Copenhagen. Read first than talk.
>
>
>
> > We saw kids there, didn't we?
>
> Enough about the kids, yes its saver for them to drive in mixed traffic.
> They can be better seen for car users and the safety rules on the road
> are much easyer to follow then riding on separated facilities with a
> different right of way.
>
>
>
> > Is there a model anywhere in the world where such relaxed cycling is
> > observed WITHOUT bike facilities?
>
> I dont know how much you are cycling but its definitely not very
> relaxing being on smallish cycle facilities with that many riders. Some
> of them going alongside parking vehicles (doring zone). You might think
> you are safer, but studies have proofen the opposite many times. Before
> the mass motorization took place in many European citys the bicycle was
> the first choice as a means of travel and there where almost no
> separated facilities at all. Facilities where created to get that damn
> cyclists out of the way, so cars can go faster.
>
>
>
>
>
> >> Actually there is no kind of scientific evidence that separated bicycle
> >> facilities have a positive impact on the safety of cyclists. The
> >> opposite is true (the study above is not the first that shows the
> >> negative effects of cyling facilities on riders safety). There isnt even
> >> a prove that more people ride bikes if you built bike lanes.
>
> >> If you want to drive save listen to what John Forester is saying:
>
> >>http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/vcvideo.html
>
> >> Or just search for vehicular cycling
>
> >> Frank
>
> > So perhaps we can learn from some other model where a good chunk of
> > the population rides bikes among cars. I'm all ears.
>
> Actually Forester talks about it in his lecture i have linked above. The
> people in DK or NL are not biking cause there are cycle facilities. They
> are doing it cause the city structure favor it as a mode of travel and
> mass motorization took place very late. Here a picture from the 50s.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/16nine/4161144794/#/
>
> No facilities at all!
>
> A 2004 study for NL shows that cycling is decreasing\stagnating, despite
> the efforts an money put in cycling infrastructure.
>
> http://www.ecf.com/misc/filePush.php?mimeType=application/pdf&fullPat...
>
> Another study shows that infrastructure is of no relevance for choice of
> Transport.
>
> http://www.ecf.com/misc/filePush.php?mimeType=application/pdf&fullPat...
>
> So why dont you take some time, read a little bit of science about
> traffic choice, traffic safety, listen to what Forester has to say and
> meditate a bit about. Maybe next time you are lucky and right something
> useful.
>
> Frank
You haven't been listening. I'm encouraging that at least in America
PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE THE LANE. Let the car look for space around you,
not the other way around. If America were to take a project like
Copenhagen, the whole trillion dollars that went into the war go would
down the "black hole" and the resulting product wouldn't work.
What it's totally unsustainable is the STATUS QUO. When some of you
decide we should take the lane under the same flag, you let me know.
The situation here is bound to improve with be Velib program, but the
peripherals roads, I'm afraid, will remain NO MAN'S LAND. I want to
take off and ride around Florida perhaps.
Think of the logo for the flag, but I'm OK with a banana. ;)
== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 6:47 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 12, 2:07 am, Frank Studt <frank.st...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 11.08.2010 22:50, schrieb Jim A:
>
> > On 08/11/2010 07:53 PM, Frank Studt wrote:
>
> >>http://www.vehicularcyclist.com/vcvideo.html
>
> >> Or just search for vehicular cycling
>
> > I like the style of those videos, especially the emphasis on being
> > courteous to other road users. We could do with some similar videos on
> > cycling in the UK (if we don't have some already).
>
> I dont know about videos, but there is a book out by John Franklin about
> vehicular cycling in the UK.
>
> http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/index.html
>
> Although i think the general principles of vehicular cycling are not
> really different, you just have to exchange right for left sometimes.
>
> Here some words by Franklin about Segragation, Vehicular Cycling and
> cycling safety.
>
> http://www.cyclecraft.co.uk/digest/vehicular.pdf
>
> Frank
Everybody is selling you a book that says "how to survive in the
jungle." I'm telling you "how to tame the jungle." How can we tame the
SUVs? How can we ban phones? How can we reverse the food chain?
The implications are much more profound.
== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 9:00 am
From: Frank Studt
Am 12.08.2010 14:22, schrieb Peter Cole:
> Frank Studt wrote:
>> Am 11.08.2010 18:36, schrieb TibetanMonkey
>>
>>> It's a hopeful video and also sad.
>>
>> The sadest thing in the video are the bike lanes and the cycle paths
>> and the damn fools who believe they make cycling saver and better. Its
>> a lie. A before-after study for the city of Copenhagen shows that the
>> building of separated bicycle facilities worsened the safety of cyclists.
>>
>> http://www.trafitec.dk/pub/bicycle%20tracks%20and%20lanes.pdf
>>
>> Actually there is no kind of scientific evidence that separated
>> bicycle facilities have a positive impact on the safety of cyclists.
>> The opposite is true (the study above is not the first that shows the
>> negative effects of cyling facilities on riders safety). There isnt
>> even a prove that more people ride bikes if you built bike lanes.
>>
>
> This is a biased interpretation of that study.
>
Not at all.
> Just from the abstract,
did you even read further?
> "tracks" caused an increase of 10% in crashes
> and injuries, and a 20% increase in cycling.
Actually the question what has increased the bicycle traffic mileage
isn't really the question asked in the study. The author didnt even
check for different reasons for the increase in cycling. The core
question of the study asks for the road safety of cyclists before and
after building bicycle facilities and the answer speaks against
separation. Road safety has worsened.
The data used in the study isnt adequate to check for a causal
connection between infrastructure and mileage. Here some important
factors you need to consider if you are testing for such hypothesis (and
the author did not).
- In other studies it is shown that the building of bicycle lanes
changed the route choices of cyclists without resulting in more mileage.
- General Trends in choice of Transport have to be considered (he just
uses data from a sample of roads).
- Copenhagen had a big image campaign for cyclist.
- A lot of safe parking places for bicycles have been built in
Copenhagen during sample period.
- The removal of parking spaces for cars reduces car use.
Just to name a few.
> A significant factor in the
> increase of crashes was blamed on the removal of on-street parking and
> the higher volume of turning motorists.
The problem that separated cycle facilities and right turning vehicles
dont mix, is well known since decades. Read the Wikipedia-Article about
it and you will find tons of primary research about the topic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segregated_cycle_facilities#Safety_issues
> On the whole it was felt that
> the positive effects of increased cycling more than compensated for the
> safety problems.
To trade off the worsening of road safety with the supposed health
benefits of cycle lanes (by increasing mileage) should not be the issue
here. The author is just speculating and again he has no data to prove
his speculations.
Im almost exclusively riding my bike in urban areas, why the fuck should
I care about the supposed health benefits on the collective scale when
my individual safety is actually worsened.
Frank
== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 9:04 am
From: Frank Studt
Am 12.08.2010 15:47, schrieb the TibetanMonkey
>
> Everybody is selling you a book that says "how to survive in the
> jungle." I'm telling you "how to tame the jungle."
Actually you have nothing to tell at all. Bye.
Frank
== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 9:07 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 12, 9:04 am, Frank Studt <frank.st...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 12.08.2010 15:47, schrieb the TibetanMonkey
>
>
>
> > Everybody is selling you a book that says "how to survive in the
> > jungle." I'm telling you "how to tame the jungle."
>
> Actually you have nothing to tell at all. Bye.
>
> Frank
Actually I do...
On Aug 12, 7:00 am, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of
> > It's not easy to accomplish a social project in the United Selfish of
> > America.
>
> I know what you mean. After all, it's not like Ike created the
> interstate highway system in the '50s, NYC created a great (but noisy)
> subway system, Gore created the funding enviornment that let the
> internet grow and flourish, there is a great national park system, the
> US government runs a great hospital system that serves many veterans
> well (and all but ignores many coming back from Iraq), there is
> guarenteed income for retired Americans or the US has many great public
> schools (and many that basically throw away children).
>
> Oops, there are great social projects in the US.
>
> Jeff
You are behind the times. The tendency is to privatize. Even the Army
is being privatized as no one wants to sacrifice for nothing. We have
more contractors (aka mercenaries) than soldiers at war. Contractors
are everywhere. They built the worse MIXED PATH in the world around
here. Very fancy but very wasteful and poorly designed (blinding
light, mixing pedestrians, dogs and bikes, etc). Last night, at 11pm,
one more couple besides us, and two security guards keeping the
installation "safe."
== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 9:37 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 12, 9:04 am, Frank Studt <frank.st...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 12.08.2010 15:47, schrieb the TibetanMonkey
>
>
>
> > Everybody is selling you a book that says "how to survive in the
> > jungle." I'm telling you "how to tame the jungle."
>
> Actually you have nothing to tell at all. Bye.
>
> Frank
Bye, but don't you have a suggestion how to deal with these beasts?
'It's a jungle out there. Well, not really: it's worse than a jungle.
It's a stretch of roadway anywhere in America, and in place of the
ravenous tigers and stampeding rhinos and slithery anacondas...
And the enemy is us. Take a ride with "Anne," a 40-year-old mother of
three who would rather we not use her real name, as she steers her 2
1/2-ton black Chevy Suburban out of her driveway on a leafy street in
residential Washington. The clock on the dashboard reads 2:16. She has
14 minutes to make it to her daughter's game. Within a block of her
house she has hit 37 m.p.h., taking stop signs as suggestions rather
than law. She has a lot on her mind. "I'm not even thinking of other
cars," Anne admits cheerfully as she lays on the horn. An oldster in
an econo-box ahead of her has made the near fatal mistake of slowing
at an intersection with no stop sign or traffic light. Anne swears and
peels off around him.'
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,987643,00.html
== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 10:44 am
From: Frank Studt
Am 12.08.2010 18:37, schrieb His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of
the Movement of Tantra-Hammock:
> On Aug 12, 9:04 am, Frank Studt<frank.st...@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Am 12.08.2010 15:47, schrieb the TibetanMonkey
>>
>>
>>
>>> Everybody is selling you a book that says "how to survive in the
>>> jungle." I'm telling you "how to tame the jungle."
>>
>> Actually you have nothing to tell at all. Bye.
>>
>> Frank
>
> Bye, but don't you have a suggestion how to deal with these beasts?
I already made my point pretty clear, no segregated facilities like bike
lanes or paths. Regarding transport policy, there is a necessity to make
driving cars unattractive. Possible means are taxes (oil), reducing
parking spaces, traffic calming and more speed limits and surveilance of
traffic violations... But I think there have been made big mistakes
especially in the US concerning city structure and town planing. The
distances between home, work, shopping... are often too big for most
people for using bicycles...
Regarding individual behaviour, I suggest avoid cycling facilities, take
the lane use the principles of vehicular cycling and it will be the most
safety you can get.
>
> 'It's a jungle out there. Well, not really: it's worse than a jungle.
> It's a stretch of roadway anywhere in America, and in place of the
> ravenous tigers and stampeding rhinos and slithery anacondas...
I dont like the analogies to the animal kingdom cause we are not
animals. If you increase your visibility in traffic nobody will kill you
on purpose with his SUV even "Anne" wouldnt. Of course there is reckless
driving but driving on separated facilities does not reduce your risk of
getting hit by a car. The opposite is true. Most car-bicycle-accidents
happen on intersections. The best way to reduce this risk is being
visible by driving on the road.
Frank
== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 11:19 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock & the Stationary Bicycle to burn the calories"
On Aug 12, 10:44 am, Frank Studt <frank.st...@gmx.net> wrote:
> Am 12.08.2010 18:37, schrieb His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of
> the Movement of Tantra-Hammock:
>
> > On Aug 12, 9:04 am, Frank Studt<frank.st...@gmx.net> wrote:
> >> Am 12.08.2010 15:47, schrieb the TibetanMonkey
>
> >>> Everybody is selling you a book that says "how to survive in the
> >>> jungle." I'm telling you "how to tame the jungle."
>
> >> Actually you have nothing to tell at all. Bye.
>
> >> Frank
>
> > Bye, but don't you have a suggestion how to deal with these beasts?
>
> I already made my point pretty clear, no segregated facilities like bike
> lanes or paths. Regarding transport policy, there is a necessity to make
> driving cars unattractive. Possible means are taxes (oil), reducing
> parking spaces, traffic calming and more speed limits and surveilance of
> traffic violations... But I think there have been made big mistakes
> especially in the US concerning city structure and town planing. The
> distances between home, work, shopping... are often too big for most
> people for using bicycles...
>
> Regarding individual behaviour, I suggest avoid cycling facilities, take
> the lane use the principles of vehicular cycling and it will be the most
> safety you can get.
>
>
>
> > 'It's a jungle out there. Well, not really: it's worse than a jungle.
> > It's a stretch of roadway anywhere in America, and in place of the
> > ravenous tigers and stampeding rhinos and slithery anacondas...
>
> I dont like the analogies to the animal kingdom cause we are not
> animals. If you increase your visibility in traffic nobody will kill you
> on purpose with his SUV even "Anne" wouldnt. Of course there is reckless
> driving but driving on separated facilities does not reduce your risk of
> getting hit by a car. The opposite is true. Most car-bicycle-accidents
> happen on intersections. The best way to reduce this risk is being
> visible by driving on the road.
>
> Frank
You are not saying anything different than what I say, except that you
don't say HOW TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
The term "beast" is very appropriate because we would have to think of
the driver as evil. We could be evil too but we don't have the power
to kill. They are often STUPID and you slowing him down can only feed
that rage.
Also many people DO need bike paths for recreational activities, or
perhaps as a main bike route the way one main highway serves a city.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 7:03 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"
On Aug 11, 1:15 pm, Jean Briscoe <briscoe.jea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What is the difference of love and what to do with people that do a crime
> ? The ones that do a crime with stand before a Judge and what a Pit is :
> Jail. You bring harm to others you hopefully get caught and stand before a
> judge. If a person is harmfull to other is the aspect to be taken out of
> society where they do not harm others . As they say what does love have to
> do with this that harms others.
That's right, punishment for bad behavior is OK in the jungle.
You know, I've thought about it, what's terribly wrong is that we
reward those beasts who kill in war beyond duty or politicians who do
a crime and get away with light sentences only to go back to their
riches.
Sexual predators are really treated like beasts, but others who drive
SUVs and push around cyclists get away with good reputation.
I have several animals and I do NOT reward bad behavior.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 7:53 am
From: Kat Rabun
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:47:35 -0500, DanG wrote:
> Good machined solid brass are available:
> http://www.tamparubber.com/product_pages/coupgard.htm
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 9:37 am
From: Lenona
I have a wooden filing cabinet with two drawers. All the removable
rods that hold up the hanging files are the same length - about 14
inches. However, over the years, the wood seems to have worn away a
bit around the holes on the right hand side. So now the rods won't
stay up whenever I open or close the drawer. Staples doesn't have
anything to replace them with. I'm guessing even rods that are 1/8 of
an inch longer might be OK - but I'm aiming for 1/4 inch, just so I
can have them trimmed if necessary.
So, where do I look? (No, I don't know the name of the company that
made the cabinet.)
Thanks.
Lenona.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 10:11 am
From: Cindy Hamilton
On Aug 12, 12:37 pm, Lenona <lenona...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have a wooden filing cabinet with two drawers. All the removable
> rods that hold up the hanging files are the same length - about 14
> inches. However, over the years, the wood seems to have worn away a
> bit around the holes on the right hand side. So now the rods won't
> stay up whenever I open or close the drawer. Staples doesn't have
> anything to replace them with. I'm guessing even rods that are 1/8 of
> an inch longer might be OK - but I'm aiming for 1/4 inch, just so I
> can have them trimmed if necessary.
>
> So, where do I look? (No, I don't know the name of the company that
> made the cabinet.)
>
> Thanks.
>
> Lenona.
You don't say where you are, but you might try someplace like this:
Your local Yellow Pages should have listings under "Steel Distributors
and Warehouses" or similar. The guys at our local Alro are pretty
nice; if you took one of your rods the guys at your distributor might
be willing to match it to what they have.
You'd need a hacksaw to cut the rod stock to length.
Cindy Hamilton
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Aug 12 2010 10:46 am
From: "Bill"
"Lenona" wrote in message
>I have a wooden filing cabinet with two drawers. All the removable
> rods that hold up the hanging files are the same length - about 14
> inches. However, over the years, the wood seems to have worn away a
> bit around the holes on the right hand side. So now the rods won't
> stay up whenever I open or close the drawer. Staples doesn't have
> anything to replace them with. I'm guessing even rods that are 1/8 of
> an inch longer might be OK - but I'm aiming for 1/4 inch, just so I
> can have them trimmed if necessary.
>
> So, where do I look? (No, I don't know the name of the company that
> made the cabinet.)
>
Take one of the rods to your local hardware store. Ask. They will have metal
rods the same thickness. Then ask if they can cut them to size. If they
can't, ask if they know someone who can do this for you.
If they don't know, then find a blacksmith or welder in the yellow pages.
They would have the tools to cut metal.
Or if you have a handy neighbor with lots of tools, baked goodies like cake,
cookies, and pies will go a LONG way toward motivating them to do all sorts
of things!
Also if you find a handyman type, you might have then cut maybe 4" x 4"
pieces of wood or plastic or metal to go over the holes where the rods go,
then screw those to the drawer and drill new holes.
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