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TOPIC: Patek Philippe Complicated Perpetual Calendar 18kt Rose Gold Mens Watch
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 12:03 am
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TOPIC: Opinions on dentist conduct
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 12:05 am
From: muzician21@yahoo.com
On Sep 24, 9:52 pm, Steven Fawks <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com> wrote:
> Well, I don't know you, I don't know the dentist involved, and
> I don't know what was actually going on in the office that day.
>
> I do know that I have a few patients that when I see their name
> on the schedule, I know things are going to be tough. A routine
> hygiene check can turn into a 30 minute discussion on 10 different
> toothpaste formulations.
>
> These patients obviously think they are asking legitimate questions
If it's a question in their mind about their dental care it's a
legitimate question. If one honestly feels someone is burning up too
much time there are tactful ways to handle it. "I'm sorry, I really
need to get to another patient right now, but I do want to answer your
questions, so I tell you what, go ahead and write down your questions
and leave them at the front desk. As soon as I'm able I'll be happy to
call you or write to you to answer them."
Or something along those lines. Hiding in your office to avoid them
and refusing to address them or taking a dismissive attitude isn't on
the list of good ways to handle it. It may be on the list of a prick
who really doesn't give a shit and concerns themselves more with
spending as little time with each patient as possible than worrying
about whether they get their silly questions answered.
> and just find ways to wreck any attempt at staying on time for the
> rest of the day.
Yes, they're not asking questions because they want to understand
something, their motivation is obviously to wreck your schedule -
which is entirely of your making. With every sentence both in this
and your subsequent post you reinforce my impression of what you must
be like as a care provider if you are in fact a dentist. Maybe I'm
completely misreading what you're intending to convey, but I'm going
by the words you're choosing, which make you sound like an abrasive
prick. From some of the other answers, fortunately it appears yours is
not the only type of attitude one can expect, but certainly one to
avoid.
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 9:35 am
From: Dartos
muzician21@yahoo.com wrote:
It may be on the list of a prick
> who really doesn't give a shit and concerns themselves more with
> spending as little time with each patient as possible than worrying
> about whether they get their silly questions answered.
IMO, that's a lot of what is happening in professional and service
businesses. You used to really 'know' your physician, dentist,
pharmacist, optomitrist, butcher, dry cleaner, shoe repairman, barber,
grocer, banker, mechanic, etc.
Now, you don't know them and they don't want to know you.
People wander around looking for an office, brand, or chain they
feel they can trust. Nothing is on a personal level any more.
With the internet, lot's of stuff happens now with zero personal
contact. Looks like the trend will just continue and likely get worse.
Old fogey rambling,
D
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 9:58 am
From: Dartos
You seem a little edgy and easily offended.
Oh, I care. However, I see the other side of the issue as well as
the side you are presenting. I freely admit that this may have
been rude behavior that you did not deserve, but all we have is
your side of the story.
There is always the other side and the dentist isn't here to tell
his view on the subject.
Also, just because you pay your dental bill does not mean you 'own'
the dentist. I'm not at your beck and call. I will bend over
backwards to deliver comfortable, quality care and treat you
like I would like to be treated. Abuse that relationship from
your side, and things might change.
D
> WTF kind of attitude is that? I'm paying what he's asking, it's not a
> charity situation. I can see what mentality you're possessed of. You
> don't give a fuck either.
>
> Gee, hope you don't get sued or anything.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 2:07 pm
From: muzician21@yahoo.com
On Sep 25, 12:58 pm, Dartos <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com> wrote:
> You seem a little edgy and easily offended.
There's no question I'm not in a dentist lovin' frame of mind at the
moment, phrases like "Well, go back to the DMO dudes if you don't like
it" I believe to be coming from a severely wrong-minded mentality.
Oh wait, you and Fawks are one and the same, same e-mail, different
NNTP. Ah ha...
> Also, just because you pay your dental bill does not mean you 'own'
> the dentist. I'm not at your beck and call.
It doesn't make them my bitch, but it does mean I'm paying for
ownership of time, good-faith, honest application of skills and
consideration. You give someone money, you're supposed to get
something for it. I believe this goes beyond the technical application
of dentistry. I realize you're hypothesizing but I believe it would be
hyperbole to characterize my particular expectations as unreasonable.
I also believe it's possible that some people can fall into a mindset
where they see their customers as so many cash cows in the cattle gate
and their focus is going through the process as uninterrupted as
possible and the "peripheral" stuff becomes less of a consideration. I
didn't have 20 questions about toothpaste as someone else described, I
had a specific short, technical question. I believe wanting to be
informed is within the scope of reason. I have a somewhat technical
mind, some 80-year old grandma or housewife might not think of the
ramifications of a particular type of filling, I did.
They're in a particular circumstance where there's not a lot of
accountability. They don't have a boss to register a complaint with,
as I understand it the professional oversight groups are something of
a joke. Unless they really screw up there's no litigation option. I
found out later that one of the previous DMO dentists I had gone to
has a long-running rep in the area as being a hack, yet he's still in
business, which I've heard is a common tale with DMO dentists.
And once he's sitting on a healthy bankroll he may feel less
motivation to be that concerned. I don't know the guy outside of his
office, he may have been a prick all along and just hid it well.
And they're also in a position to milk the situation. They say you
need a root canal. I don't ever see any closeups of where the decay
has intruded on the root. Or how do I know he doesn't do a filling in
such a way as to promote future decay and a year or so down the road
"oopsie, you need a crown/root canal". *Cha-ching* All the while
people know them as good old Dr. X, he gets civic awards, is on the
city beautification committee, etc.
> I will bend over
> backwards to deliver comfortable, quality care and treat you
> like I would like to be treated. Abuse that relationship from
> your side, and things might change.
I don't find wanting to ask a question that would take 2 - 3 minutes
tops to resolve to be abusing a relationship or in any way overly
demanding. I believe well within reason to someone who's willing to
"bend over backwards" to treat his patients well.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 2:38 pm
From: Mark & Steven Bornfeld
muzician21@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Sep 25, 12:58 pm, Dartos <tuthjoc...@myturbonet.com> wrote:
>> You seem a little edgy and easily offended.
>
>
> There's no question I'm not in a dentist lovin' frame of mind at the
> moment, phrases like "Well, go back to the DMO dudes if you don't like
> it" I believe to be coming from a severely wrong-minded mentality.
>
> Oh wait, you and Fawks are one and the same, same e-mail, different
> NNTP. Ah ha...
>
>> Also, just because you pay your dental bill does not mean you 'own'
>> the dentist. I'm not at your beck and call.
>
> It doesn't make them my bitch, but it does mean I'm paying for
> ownership of time, good-faith, honest application of skills and
> consideration. You give someone money, you're supposed to get
> something for it. I believe this goes beyond the technical application
> of dentistry. I realize you're hypothesizing but I believe it would be
> hyperbole to characterize my particular expectations as unreasonable.
>
> I also believe it's possible that some people can fall into a mindset
> where they see their customers as so many cash cows in the cattle gate
> and their focus is going through the process as uninterrupted as
> possible and the "peripheral" stuff becomes less of a consideration. I
> didn't have 20 questions about toothpaste as someone else described, I
> had a specific short, technical question. I believe wanting to be
> informed is within the scope of reason. I have a somewhat technical
> mind, some 80-year old grandma or housewife might not think of the
> ramifications of a particular type of filling, I did.
>
> They're in a particular circumstance where there's not a lot of
> accountability. They don't have a boss to register a complaint with,
> as I understand it the professional oversight groups are something of
> a joke. Unless they really screw up there's no litigation option. I
> found out later that one of the previous DMO dentists I had gone to
> has a long-running rep in the area as being a hack, yet he's still in
> business, which I've heard is a common tale with DMO dentists.
>
> And once he's sitting on a healthy bankroll he may feel less
> motivation to be that concerned. I don't know the guy outside of his
> office, he may have been a prick all along and just hid it well.
>
> And they're also in a position to milk the situation. They say you
> need a root canal. I don't ever see any closeups of where the decay
> has intruded on the root. Or how do I know he doesn't do a filling in
> such a way as to promote future decay and a year or so down the road
> "oopsie, you need a crown/root canal". *Cha-ching* All the while
> people know them as good old Dr. X, he gets civic awards, is on the
> city beautification committee, etc.
>
>
>> I will bend over
>> backwards to deliver comfortable, quality care and treat you
>> like I would like to be treated. Abuse that relationship from
>> your side, and things might change.
>
>
> I don't find wanting to ask a question that would take 2 - 3 minutes
> tops to resolve to be abusing a relationship or in any way overly
> demanding. I believe well within reason to someone who's willing to
> "bend over backwards" to treat his patients well.
You sound quite reasonably peeved. Your expectations are in no way out
of line.
At the same time, I've known Dartos through his posting history here
for almost 10 years. There is not a chance in hell that you'd be
treated by him in the way you were treated in your recent dental
experience. By the same token, all of us (Dartos and I are near
contemporaries--we've both been doing this 30 years or more) have had
patients who just suck the life forces out of us. You may take comfort
that, just as there are patients who hate nothing more than the dental
experince, there are patients whose presence on the appointment provoke
instant diarrhea in the dental staff.
This is a great big world--there are good and bad people everywhere.
Try and find the good ones.
Steve
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 3:21 am
From: clams_casino
James wrote:
>Unless you work in the finance industry or just bought an overpriced
>house, are you affected? I feel the price of oil more than the fall
>of Lehman Bros. and AIG.
>
>
If you own any stocks and are retired or near retirement, you're likely
screwed. Any money invested / saved over the past ten years has most
likely lost money, especially relative to inflation.
If you are in your 20's-40's, it could be an ideal time to sock away
money in a retirement fund, depending on your willingness to accept high
risk for potentially high rewards.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 8:10 am
From: "JonquilJan"
> Unless you work in the finance industry or just bought an overpriced
> house, are you affected? I feel the price of oil more than the fall
> of Lehman Bros. and AIG.
It's going to hurt everyone - eventually. Even with the supposed bail-out
proposed - there will be repercussions down the line - and the lower you are
on the line - the harder it will hit.
JonquilJan
Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 1:10 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
JonquilJan <ward39@imcnet.net> wrote:
>> Unless you work in the finance industry or just bought an overpriced
>> house, are you affected? I feel the price of oil more than the fall
>> of Lehman Bros. and AIG.
> It's going to hurt everyone - eventually.
Not necessarily, most obviously if the bailout works.
> Even with the supposed bail-out proposed - there will be repercussions down the line
Yes, but that wont necessarily hurt everyone.
> - and the lower you are on the line - the harder it will hit.
Thats not right either. Those entirely dependant on welfare and food stamps,
and they are the lowest on the line apart from the 'homeless' wont be affected
at all except that their entertainment will be disrupted by the bullshit etc.
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 1:47 pm
From: "JonquilJan"
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6k29h5F5ikr7U1@mid.individual.net...
> JonquilJan <ward39@imcnet.net> wrote:
>
> >> Unless you work in the finance industry or just bought an overpriced
> >> house, are you affected? I feel the price of oil more than the fall
> >> of Lehman Bros. and AIG.
>
> > It's going to hurt everyone - eventually.
>
> Not necessarily, most obviously if the bailout works.
>
> > Even with the supposed bail-out proposed - there will be repercussions
down the line
>
> Yes, but that wont necessarily hurt everyone.
>
> > - and the lower you are on the line - the harder it will hit.
>
> Thats not right either. Those entirely dependant on welfare and food
stamps,
> and they are the lowest on the line apart from the 'homeless' wont be
affected
> at all except that their entertainment will be disrupted by the bullshit
etc.
>
>
Guess I'm concerned about my Social Security check. Wonder if that would be
impacted.
JonquilJan
Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 3:31 am
From: clams_casino
Al Bundy wrote:
>
>
>They did have specials, but I also remember a couple of white building
>knock-offs of White Castle. One was called Motts Hamburgers. Another
>was Bates Burgers. They had a dozen for a buck regularly. If you
>loaded up with onions, tomato, and mustard, you were getting healthy
>vegetables too! The local precursor of McDonald's was called Henry's
>Hamburgers.
>Even today, an eleven year old likes a White Castle burger now and
>then. I couldn't tell you what they cost now and I don't care. I have
>noticed that two small Frosties at Wendy's has gone from $2.10 to
>$2.95 in just a few months. We're going to have to get used to it
>more as the dollar becomes worth-less faster.
>
>
I was surprised this week to still get a double cheeseburger, small fry
& small drink this week for just $1 each at McDonalds.
Several weeks ago, I stopped at a Wendy's and found that although their
bacon cheeseburger was still 99 cents, their small fry & drink had
climbed to $1.29 each.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 7:40 am
From: OhioGuy
> The White Castle price might be off, depending on year/location.
> I remember in 1959 sliders being 12 cents. Maybe there was a dozen
Ok, since this has turned into a White Castle discussion, I thought I
would mention that the one near me just closed less than a month ago.
There is a McDonald's across the street, and while for decades they
co-existed, evidently the double whammy of increased costs and fewer
people eating out lately was enough to finally make them go under.
Just a few months back, I filled up a bag with those tiny burgers and
our whole family enjoyed them for a meal.
I have to admit, though, I was rather annoyed when they started
poking 5 holes in the meat patty so they could use even less meat in
each one of these. The meat was already pretty thin, and they were
already pretty small to begin with. It got to the point where a Wendy's
Jr. Cheeseburger Deluxe, or a McDonald's Double Cheeseburger were better
deals for a buck.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 7:47 am
From: Vic Smith
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:40:22 -0400, OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote:
>
>> The White Castle price might be off, depending on year/location.
>> I remember in 1959 sliders being 12 cents. Maybe there was a dozen
>
> Ok, since this has turned into a White Castle discussion, I thought I
>would mention that the one near me just closed less than a month ago.
>There is a McDonald's across the street, and while for decades they
>co-existed, evidently the double whammy of increased costs and fewer
>people eating out lately was enough to finally make them go under.
>
> Just a few months back, I filled up a bag with those tiny burgers and
>our whole family enjoyed them for a meal.
>
> I have to admit, though, I was rather annoyed when they started
>poking 5 holes in the meat patty so they could use even less meat in
>each one of these. The meat was already pretty thin, and they were
>already pretty small to begin with. It got to the point where a Wendy's
>Jr. Cheeseburger Deluxe, or a McDonald's Double Cheeseburger were better
>deals for a buck.
Far as I know, they always had those holes. Lets the onions permeate
the burger.
But they have never been a per pound of meat type value anyway.
Not even sure it's meat.
It's a White Castle. Nothing else like it.
--Vic
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 8:04 am
From: clams_casino
OhioGuy wrote:
>
>> The White Castle price might be off, depending on year/location.
>> I remember in 1959 sliders being 12 cents. Maybe there was a dozen
>
>
> Ok, since this has turned into a White Castle discussion, I thought
> I would mention that the one near me just closed less than a month
> ago. There is a McDonald's across the street, and while for decades
> they co-existed, evidently the double whammy of increased costs and
> fewer people eating out lately was enough to finally make them go under.
>
Oddly, this morning's paper has an article that food & beverage taxes
are up about 2% in our state. There have been some price increases, so
the conclusion is that people are eating out here about as much as
previously. They imply that rather than traveling, some are eating
out more locally to offset some that may be tightening their belts.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 9:12 am
From: curly'q
Vic Smith wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 10:40:22 -0400, OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote:
>
>>> The White Castle price might be off, depending on year/location.
>>> I remember in 1959 sliders being 12 cents. Maybe there was a dozen
>> Ok, since this has turned into a White Castle discussion, I thought I
>> would mention that the one near me just closed less than a month ago.
>> There is a McDonald's across the street, and while for decades they
>> co-existed, evidently the double whammy of increased costs and fewer
>> people eating out lately was enough to finally make them go under.
>>
>> Just a few months back, I filled up a bag with those tiny burgers and
>> our whole family enjoyed them for a meal.
>>
>> I have to admit, though, I was rather annoyed when they started
>> poking 5 holes in the meat patty so they could use even less meat in
>> each one of these. The meat was already pretty thin, and they were
>> already pretty small to begin with. It got to the point where a Wendy's
>> Jr. Cheeseburger Deluxe, or a McDonald's Double Cheeseburger were better
>> deals for a buck.
>
> Far as I know, they always had those holes. Lets the onions permeate
> the burger.
> But they have never been a per pound of meat type value anyway.
> Not even sure it's meat.
> It's a White Castle. Nothing else like it.
>
> --Vic
I was weened on those things.
Speaking of frugal, there are some recipes online for fairly authentic,
according to the reviews, sliders. This thread got me interested and I
will be whipping up a batch next week. I'll post a cost breakdown and
taste comments.
Curly
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 10:14 am
From: Al Bundy
curly'q wrote:
>
> I was weened on those things.
>
> Speaking of frugal, there are some recipes online for fairly authentic,
> according to the reviews, sliders. This thread got me interested and I
> will be whipping up a batch next week. I'll post a cost breakdown and
> taste comments.
>
>
> Curly
Be sure you use the straight SAE 40 weight and no synthetic oil.
Larry
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 8:48 am
From: Derald
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TOPIC: City reappraised our house up 31% !
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 8:18 am
From: "JonquilJan"
My property/home was reappraised last year. Other than times when I had
sold some land, the appraised values had only been going up for the past 27
years. One instance, appraiser came through and said the two small barns on
my property across the road had never been added to the value. Interesting
because they had been there for decades before I purchased the property.
Reappraisal dropped the value 45%. My school taxes this year were $3.78 -=
and yes there is a decimal point in there. And that was for the library.
and I have the state STAR exemption (low income) and also get more exemption
for my age (69).
At least one advantage of being old and poor.
JonquilJan
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== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 10:10 am
From: "h"
"JonquilJan" <ward39@imcnet.net> wrote in message
news:48dbad17$0$13725$38cefb40@news.westelcom.com...
> My property/home was reappraised last year. Other than times when I had
> sold some land, the appraised values had only been going up for the past
> 27
> years. One instance, appraiser came through and said the two small barns
> on
> my property across the road had never been added to the value.
> Interesting
> because they had been there for decades before I purchased the property.
>
> Reappraisal dropped the value 45%. My school taxes this year were
> $3.78 -=
> and yes there is a decimal point in there. And that was for the library.
> and I have the state STAR exemption (low income) and also get more
> exemption
> for my age (69).
>
> At least one advantage of being old and poor.
>
> JonquilJan
>
Wow! I know you're in upstate NY too, but I wish I lived in your county. My
house is assessed (full-value) for $150k, and between school and property
taxes I'm paying almost $5k a year. Seems excessively high, especially since
I'm in the boonies with virtually no services. There's no garbage pickup, no
town dump (so you have to hire a garbage service), no sewers, no gas lines,
although we did finally get water lines (for which we pay extra), and a
non-paid all volunteer fire/rescue dept. What exactly do they need all that
money for?
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 10:27 am
From: George Grapman
I recently talked to someone with an unusual assessment issue. The
property straddles two town and it on a steep hill. The house is in one
town and the hill in another. It is unsafe to build anything on the hill
so it acts as an open space buffer yet the town containing that area
based their assessment on the value of the parcel where the house is.
After two years of fighting the owner invited the officials to view
the property in person and after a visit they agreed that she had been
overcharged.
>
>
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 10:56 am
From: George
George Grapman wrote:
> I recently talked to someone with an unusual assessment issue. The
> property straddles two town and it on a steep hill. The house is in one
> town and the hill in another. It is unsafe to build anything on the hill
> so it acts as an open space buffer yet the town containing that area
> based their assessment on the value of the parcel where the house is.
> After two years of fighting the owner invited the officials to view
> the property in person and after a visit they agreed that she had been
> overcharged.
>>
>>
Our county was just reassessed by the "world renowned" century 21 and
there are numerous instances like that. For example my neighbor owns a
very irregular adjoining property that according to zoning isn't
suitable for any building yet they valued it as a standard building lot.
Or my buddy had to buy a adjoining property to place a sand mound system
because no place on his property was suitable. Sand mounds are really
common and distinctive because of the obvious mound and vent pipes but
they decided that it too was a building lot.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 12:41 pm
From: "JonquilJan"
> > Reappraisal dropped the value 45%. My school taxes this year were
> > $3.78 -=
> > and yes there is a decimal point in there. And that was for the
library.
> > and I have the state STAR exemption (low income) and also get more
> > exemption
> > for my age (69).
> >
> > At least one advantage of being old and poor.
> >
> > JonquilJan
> >
> Wow! I know you're in upstate NY too, but I wish I lived in your county.
My
> house is assessed (full-value) for $150k, and between school and property
> taxes I'm paying almost $5k a year. Seems excessively high, especially
since
> I'm in the boonies with virtually no services. There's no garbage pickup,
no
> town dump (so you have to hire a garbage service), no sewers, no gas
lines,
> although we did finally get water lines (for which we pay extra), and a
> non-paid all volunteer fire/rescue dept. What exactly do they need all
that
> money for?
>
>
I'm in the boonies as well. I take my stuff to the town dump (7 miles) but
no sewers, no gas lines, no water lines - fire service is volunteer (only 1
mile away). But I am about as far away from the town barn as possible - and
they do keep the roads very clear in the winter - and when trees come down
(twice this year so far) they are there within an hour after the storm
clearing the road. The cost I posted was for school taxes. (Good Schools -
South Jefferson district) Waiting for county/town taxes.
I live in southern Jefferson County.
JonquilJan
Learn something new every day
As long as you are learning, you are living
When you stop learning, you start dying
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 25 2008 10:34 am
From: Day Brown
Patriot Games wrote:
> There is no such thing as "bisexuals."
>
> Bisexuality is an ACTIVITY.
>
> Homosexuality is a GENETIC SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
>
> Heterosexuality is a GENETIC SEXUAL ORIENTATION.
The educated know Sappho's poems and of her torrid love affairs with her
students at her school on the Isle of Lesbos. And, we also know that at
graduation, the girls returned to Athens to marry.
And who did they marry?
Only the most notorious bunch of boy fuckers in all history.
And what did all this depravity produce?
Only the most creative generations of genius in all history.
Follow the money PG; the free market capitalists pay for creative
genius, but not homophobia. I understand your distress, but you are
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