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* Water 4 Gas - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1eb6c2388ced324e?hl=en
* OUR TROUBLED COUNTRY: - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9577fa0f6d434134?hl=en
* CBS News on the economy and grocery shopping - 6 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1ad6efab460db467?hl=en
* Senate Housing Bill Requires eBay, Amazon, Google, and All Credit Card
Companies to Report Transactions to the Government - 14 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/995e66793c4ef4b6?hl=en
* Simple ways to make yourself beautiful - 2 messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Water 4 Gas
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1eb6c2388ced324e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jun 21 2008 8:01 pm
From: max
In article <4JGdndLktddv8sDVnZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d@earthlink.com>,
"Bob" <ma@trix.net> wrote:
> As a putative scientist, you should know there are few (if any) actual
> facts in science
no wonder you can't understand me.
--
This signature can be appended to your outgoing mesages. Many people include in
their signatures contact information, and perhaps a joke or quotation.
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TOPIC: OUR TROUBLED COUNTRY:
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9577fa0f6d434134?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 2:15 am
From: billimmelman@yahoo.com
On Jun 21, 7:08 pm, "junkman" <dhays...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> OUR TROUBLED COUNTRY:
> IMMIGRATION'S RACIAL VIOLENCE SPREADING ACROSS AMERICA
>
> http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty373.htm
Coming to a neighborhood near you.
bill
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 2:19 am
From: "Rod Speed"
billimmelman@yahoo.com wrote
> junkman <dhays...@centurytel.net> wrote
>> OUR TROUBLED COUNTRY:
>> IMMIGRATION'S RACIAL VIOLENCE SPREADING ACROSS AMERICA
>> http://www.newswithviews.com/Wooldridge/frosty373.htm
> Coming to a neighborhood near you.
Nope.
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TOPIC: CBS News on the economy and grocery shopping
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1ad6efab460db467?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 3:23 am
From: clams_casino
catalpa wrote:
>
>
>The biggest part of my and many other peoples budget is taxes. I'd love to
>save money on taxes, but the federal, state, county and local governments
>and the school board won't let me.
>
>
>
>
You can always move to a country that doesn't provide any services. Who
needs roads, an education, a military, a fire department, police
protection, social security, etc?
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 6:10 am
From:
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"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org> wrote in message
news:%qh7k.456$JL.268@trnddc05...
>
> "Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:485d4119$0$5132$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> This includes at least one video.
>>>
>>> http://search.cbsnews.com/?source=cbs&q=saving+money+food
>>
>> The two biggest parts of anyones budget these days is housing
>> and transportation. It would make more sense to save lots of
>> money on those two first and have a little extra to spend on
>> food than the other way around.
>>
>> Anthony
>
> The biggest part of my and many other peoples budget is taxes. I'd love to
> save money on taxes, but the federal, state, county and local governments
> and the school board won't let me.
>
Yup. Me, too. My taxes go up every year and my income doesn't.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 8:25 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:10:21 -0400, <h> wrote:
>
>"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org> wrote in message
>news:%qh7k.456$JL.268@trnddc05...
>>
>> "Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:485d4119$0$5132$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>> This includes at least one video.
>>>>
>>>> http://search.cbsnews.com/?source=cbs&q=saving+money+food
>>>
>>> The two biggest parts of anyones budget these days is housing
>>> and transportation. It would make more sense to save lots of
>>> money on those two first and have a little extra to spend on
>>> food than the other way around.
>>>
>>> Anthony
>>
>> The biggest part of my and many other peoples budget is taxes. I'd love to
>> save money on taxes, but the federal, state, county and local governments
>> and the school board won't let me.
>>
>Yup. Me, too. My taxes go up every year and my income doesn't.
>
Mine dropped like a rock last year. Part of it was reduction of
income dropping my Fed income tax to the lowest I've paid in years,
but I also stripped over $2K per year in property taxes by moving
rural. You CAN live in the U.S. and not be held hostage to various
outrageous taxes. You just have to do the research and being willing
to get off the dime.
Housing costs this year will be minimal, since by moving we were able
to eliminate a mortgage and start a new maintenance clock with a new
home.
Transportation costs have stayed about the same, but we drive far
less.
Hopefully, food costs will start to go down this year, as the garden
ripens and we start freezing and canning. However, some of the
savings will be a cost shifting, since I need to put up fencing and
build stock housing.
NBC did a story recently on the rise of the dollar stores. Looks like
people are beginning to make the shifts that we made years ago. It
sucks that google spam trashed this group when people need it most.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 10:32 am
From:
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<hchickpea@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:niqs54p4skg75g2e71pflqr97krfb6sghl@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 09:10:21 -0400, <h> wrote:
>
>>
>>"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org> wrote in message
>>news:%qh7k.456$JL.268@trnddc05...
>>>
>>> "Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:485d4119$0$5132$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>> lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>>> This includes at least one video.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://search.cbsnews.com/?source=cbs&q=saving+money+food
>>>>
>>>> The two biggest parts of anyones budget these days is housing
>>>> and transportation. It would make more sense to save lots of
>>>> money on those two first and have a little extra to spend on
>>>> food than the other way around.
>>>>
>>>> Anthony
>>>
>>> The biggest part of my and many other peoples budget is taxes. I'd love
>>> to
>>> save money on taxes, but the federal, state, county and local
>>> governments
>>> and the school board won't let me.
>>>
>>Yup. Me, too. My taxes go up every year and my income doesn't.
>>
> Mine dropped like a rock last year. Part of it was reduction of
> income dropping my Fed income tax to the lowest I've paid in years,
> but I also stripped over $2K per year in property taxes by moving
> rural. You CAN live in the U.S. and not be held hostage to various
> outrageous taxes. You just have to do the research and being willing
> to get off the dime.
I already do live rural. Problem is that my town is in a county with a
failing large city. Our school and property taxes are hijacked to bail out
the larger entity. If our town was in the next county over, we'd be paying
about 60% of what we pay now. The town has tried to change counties 3 times,
and each time it was blocked by the city, because they need our town's
revenue. When I bought the place, we had fairly low taxes. I've spent nearly
25 years lovingly restoring this nearly 200 year old house, and I refuse to
give it up just because the politicians can't figure out how to budget.
Also, although our property/school taxes are some of the highest in the
nation (based on home values) the fact that I'm self-employed is what causes
my income tax to be so high. My business is the first to be hit when there's
a recession, since I don't sell a necessity. Orders have been mighty thin
lately. I made $5k less in 2007 than I did in 2006, yet I owed $1k more in
taxes with the same deductions. I still don't get that one. My accountant
says that it happened to a lot of his business clients last year. Make less,
pay more, seems to be the new American Way.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 1:00 pm
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com
On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:32:48 -0400, <h> wrote:
>Also, although our property/school taxes are some of the highest in the
>nation (based on home values) the fact that I'm self-employed is what causes
>my income tax to be so high. My business is the first to be hit when there's
>a recession, since I don't sell a necessity. Orders have been mighty thin
>lately. I made $5k less in 2007 than I did in 2006, yet I owed $1k more in
>taxes with the same deductions. I still don't get that one. My accountant
>says that it happened to a lot of his business clients last year. Make less,
>pay more, seems to be the new American Way.
That doesn't sound right. If the difference is that much, I'd at
least take the data to another accountant for a review.
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 12:56 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote
> catalpa wrote
>> The biggest part of my and many other peoples budget is taxes. I'd love to save money on taxes, but the federal,
>> state, county and local governments and the school board won't let me.
> You can always move to a country that doesn't provide any services.
No such animal, and even if there was, there would still be taxes to pay their parasites.
> Who needs roads, an education, a military, a fire department, police protection, social security, etc?
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TOPIC: Senate Housing Bill Requires eBay, Amazon, Google, and All Credit Card
Companies to Report Transactions to the Government
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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 10:02 am
From: JonL
AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> http://www.freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=2571
>
No surprise that the corporate slut-puppy , Senator Dodd, is behind this.
(this clown greased the path for Arthur Anderson to do consulting work
at the same companies they're supposed to be auditing)
Oh, it's that great Patriot, Dick Armey:
"My number one priority in foreign policy is to protect Israel."
-Former House Speaker Richard Armey
ps: I instinctively raise my antenna when I see an org with terms such
as Freedom, Democracy, Peace, Aid.
== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 10:12 am
From: Bert Hyman
In news:485E8591.4020105@Mayday.com JonL <JonL@Mayday.com> wrote:
> AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
>> http://www.freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=2571
>>
> No surprise that the corporate slut-puppy , Senator Dodd, is behind
> this. (this clown greased the path for Arthur Anderson to do
> consulting work at the same companies they're supposed to be auditing)
>
>
> Oh, it's that great Patriot, Dick Armey:
So, you have a problem with Dodd, who "is behind this", but also with
Armey, who's exposing it?
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 12:17 pm
From: "nospam"
"Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AC57C2B5136FVeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
> In news:485E8591.4020105@Mayday.com JonL <JonL@Mayday.com> wrote:
>
> > AllEmailDeletedImmediately wrote:
> >> http://www.freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=2571
> >>
> > No surprise that the corporate slut-puppy , Senator Dodd, is behind
> > this. (this clown greased the path for Arthur Anderson to do
> > consulting work at the same companies they're supposed to be auditing)
> >
> >
> > Oh, it's that great Patriot, Dick Armey:
>
> So, you have a problem with Dodd, who "is behind this", but also with
> Armey, who's exposing it?
This is SOP for the minority party in Congress: this housing bill provides up
to $300B in federal insurance to help homeowners refinance troubled
mortgages. This is why Armey and Bush are trying to kill the bill.
From: http://forum.brokeroutpost.com/loans/forum/2/222248.htm:
The average U.S. home price fell 12.5% between the second quarter of 2006
and the first quarter of 2008, according to Fiserv Inc.'s Case-Shiller Home
Price Index and Moody's Economy.com. Prices are projected to fall another
12.5% by the second quarter of 2009, before they rise again, Economy.com
forecasts.
As interest rates on some mortgages rise, many homeowners are unable to
make their payments or refinance into cheaper loans. An estimated 2.5 million
Americans are expected to lose their homes between this year and next, more
than twice the pace during normal times, according to Economy.com.
FreedomWorks officials say the current housing bill is just the beginning of
what could be an onslaught of election-year bailout legislation. FreedomWorks
puts its copyright on AngryRenter.com and discloses on the back pages that it
is the source of the effort. The site is nonetheless designed to look underdoggy
and grass-rootsy, with a heavy dose of aw-shucks innocence.
FreedomWorks and its affiliated foundation took in $10.5 million in revenue
in 2006, the last year for which filing data are available. Much of the income
came from large donors the group declines to identify. A spokesman
described the secrecy as "standard D.C. practice."
FreedomWorks President Matthew Kibbe, a former top aide to a Republican
lawmaker, says the site is an effort to "reach out" to renters who share the
free-market views of Messrs. Armey, Forbes and others.
Mr. Forbes -- the chairman and chief executive of Forbes, a former Republican
presidential candidate and an unpaid FreedomWorks board member -- owns a
7,966-square-foot house on 9.5 acres in Bedminster, N.J., assessed by county
tax authorities at $2.78 million. He owns 111.8 more acres next door, registered
as farmland and assessed for tax purposes at $45,500. The county lists at least
half a dozen other Forbes properties in the area. The Forbes family has sold off
its private island in Fiji and palace in Morocco, but still owns a château in France.
Mr. Forbes didn't respond to repeated interview requests through his
spokeswoman.
Mr. Armey, FreedomWorks's chairman, left Congress in 2003 and now lobbies
his former colleagues as a senior policy adviser at DLA Piper, an international law
and lobbying firm. He earns $100,833 a year for four hours a week working for
FreedomWorks Inc., the organization's advocacy arm, and an additional $403,333
for 32 hours a week working for FreedomWorks Foundation, its tax-deductible,
educational wing, according to federal tax filings.
== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 12:39 pm
From: Bert Hyman
In news:YcSdnWRsYsZhOcPVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@comcast.com "nospam"
<nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
> This is SOP for the minority party in Congress: this housing bill
> provides up to $300B in federal insurance to help homeowners refinance
> troubled mortgages.
Why should people who borrowed more than they can pay back be bailed out
at the taxpayer's expense?
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 1:28 pm
From: "nospam"
"Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AC59522E3124VeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
> In news:YcSdnWRsYsZhOcPVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@comcast.com "nospam"
> <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
>
> > This is SOP for the minority party in Congress: this housing bill
> > provides up to $300B in federal insurance to help homeowners refinance
> > troubled mortgages.
>
> Why should people who borrowed more than they can pay back be bailed out
> at the taxpayer's expense?
I had the same question for Chrysler, the S&L industry, airlines
etc etc.
About time we paid ourselves.
You know, if I were king I'd immediately print $1,000,000 for
every American citizen over the age of 18. Pay off all your debts,
live the way you choose to live etc. Our currency would STILL
be the most prized in the world.
== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 1:34 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
nospam <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
> "Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9AC59522E3124VeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
>> In news:YcSdnWRsYsZhOcPVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@comcast.com "nospam"
>> <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> This is SOP for the minority party in Congress: this housing bill
>>> provides up to $300B in federal insurance to help homeowners
>>> refinance troubled mortgages.
>>
>> Why should people who borrowed more than they can pay back be bailed
>> out at the taxpayer's expense?
>
> I had the same question for Chrysler, the S&L industry, airlines
> etc etc.
>
> About time we paid ourselves.
>
> You know, if I were king I'd immediately print $1,000,000 for
> every American citizen over the age of 18. Pay off all your debts,
> live the way you choose to live etc. Our currency would STILL
> be the most prized in the world.
Nope, thats been tried and it doesnt produce that result.
== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 1:55 pm
From: Bert Hyman
In news:ZoudnR_6RMvuKMPVnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@comcast.com "nospam"
<nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
> "Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9AC59522E3124VeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
>> In news:YcSdnWRsYsZhOcPVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@comcast.com "nospam"
>> <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>> > This is SOP for the minority party in Congress: this housing bill
>> > provides up to $300B in federal insurance to help homeowners
>> > refinance troubled mortgages.
>>
>> Why should people who borrowed more than they can pay back be bailed
>> out at the taxpayer's expense?
>
> I had the same question for Chrysler, the S&L industry, airlines
> etc etc.
So, you liked it so much, you thought we should do it again?
> About time we paid ourselves.
With money stolen from your more thoughtful neighbors.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 1:59 pm
From: "nospam"
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message news:6c7raiF3f78dmU1@mid.individual.net...
> nospam <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
> > "Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9AC59522E3124VeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
> >> In news:YcSdnWRsYsZhOcPVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@comcast.com "nospam"
> >> <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is SOP for the minority party in Congress: this housing bill
> >>> provides up to $300B in federal insurance to help homeowners
> >>> refinance troubled mortgages.
> >>
> >> Why should people who borrowed more than they can pay back be bailed
> >> out at the taxpayer's expense?
> >
> > I had the same question for Chrysler, the S&L industry, airlines
> > etc etc.
> >
> > About time we paid ourselves.
> >
> > You know, if I were king I'd immediately print $1,000,000 for
> > every American citizen over the age of 18. Pay off all your debts,
> > live the way you choose to live etc. Our currency would STILL
> > be the most prized in the world.
>
> Nope, thats been tried and it doesnt produce that result.
When has it been tried in the U.S., and what result did it produce?
== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 2:01 pm
From: "nospam"
"Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AC5A20E3E71DVeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
> In news:ZoudnR_6RMvuKMPVnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@comcast.com "nospam"
> <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
>
> > "Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message
> > news:Xns9AC59522E3124VeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
> >> In news:YcSdnWRsYsZhOcPVnZ2dnUVZ_qHinZ2d@comcast.com "nospam"
> >> <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > This is SOP for the minority party in Congress: this housing bill
> >> > provides up to $300B in federal insurance to help homeowners
> >> > refinance troubled mortgages.
> >>
> >> Why should people who borrowed more than they can pay back be bailed
> >> out at the taxpayer's expense?
> >
> > I had the same question for Chrysler, the S&L industry, airlines
> > etc etc.
>
> So, you liked it so much, you thought we should do it again?
Yes.
> > About time we paid ourselves.
>
> With money stolen from your more thoughtful neighbors.
The banks --and the government who deregulated the industry --
are to blame for this mess. Not consumers. If you hold out a
dollar for people to take, don't turn around and blame them for
taking it.
== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 2:03 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
nospam <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> nospam <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote
>>> Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote
>>>> nospam <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote
>>>>> This is SOP for the minority party in Congress: this housing bill
>>>>> provides up to $300B in federal insurance to help homeowners
>>>>> refinance troubled mortgages.
>>>> Why should people who borrowed more than they can pay back be
>>>> bailed out at the taxpayer's expense?
>>> I had the same question for Chrysler, the S&L industry, airlines etc etc.
>>> About time we paid ourselves.
>>> You know, if I were king I'd immediately print $1,000,000 for
>>> every American citizen over the age of 18. Pay off all your debts,
>>> live the way you choose to live etc. Our currency would STILL
>>> be the most prized in the world.
>> Nope, thats been tried and it doesnt produce that result.
> When has it been tried in the U.S.,
Never said it had been.
> and what result did it produce?
The countrys that tried that didnt even up with the most prized in the world for some odd reason.
And the USD isnt the most prized in the world anymore even without that terminal stupidity.
== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 2:08 pm
From: "nospam"
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message news:6c7t1nF3g3hi0U1@mid.individual.net...
> nospam <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> nospam <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote
> >>> Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote
> >>>> nospam <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote
>
> >>>>> This is SOP for the minority party in Congress: this housing bill
> >>>>> provides up to $300B in federal insurance to help homeowners
> >>>>> refinance troubled mortgages.
>
> >>>> Why should people who borrowed more than they can pay back be
> >>>> bailed out at the taxpayer's expense?
>
> >>> I had the same question for Chrysler, the S&L industry, airlines etc etc.
>
> >>> About time we paid ourselves.
>
> >>> You know, if I were king I'd immediately print $1,000,000 for
> >>> every American citizen over the age of 18. Pay off all your debts,
> >>> live the way you choose to live etc. Our currency would STILL
> >>> be the most prized in the world.
>
> >> Nope, thats been tried and it doesnt produce that result.
>
> > When has it been tried in the U.S.,
>
> Never said it had been.
Thanks for admitting your straw man.
> And the USD isnt the most prized in the world anymore even without that terminal stupidity.
Actually it is, if you knew what the hell you were talking about.
== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 2:08 pm
From: Bert Hyman
In news:WM-dnYKbs-atIMPVnZ2dnUVZ_oLinZ2d@comcast.com "nospam"
<nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
> The banks --and the government who deregulated the industry --
> are to blame for this mess. Not consumers.
That's funny.
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 2:09 pm
From: Bert Hyman
In news:WM-dnYKbs-atIMPVnZ2dnUVZ_oLinZ2d@comcast.com "nospam"
<nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
> If you hold out a dollar for people to take,
We're talking about loans, not gifts.
> don't turn around and blame them for taking it.
>
I only blame them for not paying it back, as agreed to.
In addition to having no common sense, do you have no honor?
--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com
== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 2:12 pm
From: "nospam"
"Bert Hyman" <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AC5A44E8664CVeebleFetzer@216.250.184.7...
> In news:WM-dnYKbs-atIMPVnZ2dnUVZ_oLinZ2d@comcast.com "nospam"
> <nospam@comcast.invalid.net> wrote:
>
> > If you hold out a dollar for people to take,
>
> We're talking about loans, not gifts.
Same principle. It was and is the bank's responsibility to lend
responsibly.
> > don't turn around and blame them for taking it.
> >
>
> I only blame them for not paying it back, as agreed to.
>
> In addition to having no common sense, do you have no honor?
An appropriate question for banks.
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TOPIC: Simple ways to make yourself beautiful
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e1fe17a276816681?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 10:15 am
From: "Mr.SmartyPants"
In article
<e5171ee6-df7d-4590-b4a3-7b66f85c05aa@g16g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
David <david7777@rediffmail.com> wrote:
> Simple ways to make yourself beautiful
> http://www.beautyadvice4u.blogspot.com
Just Smile
works every time and pretty frugal.
--
If Evolution is out-lawed. Only the Out-laws will evolve.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 12:51 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Mr.SmartyPants <georgewkspam@humboldt1.com> wrote
> David <david7777@rediffmail.com> wrote
>> Simple ways to make yourself beautiful
>> http://www.beautyadvice4u.blogspot.com
> Just Smile
> works every time
Not for those whose cigarette stained teeth look like a train wreck.
> and pretty frugal.
Not when little kids scream when you do that.
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