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Today's topics:

* Save those 2009 calendars for 2015 - 16 messages, 9 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a68bb567140bceaa?hl=en
* Cinnamon - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9456b6a50de07768?hl=en
* 2009: The Year Wall Street Bounced Back & Main Street Got Shafted - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a605d782925e3b60?hl=en

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TOPIC: Save those 2009 calendars for 2015
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a68bb567140bceaa?hl=en
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== 1 of 16 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 30 2009 7:24 pm
From: Al


On Dec 30, 2:58 pm, denni...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) wrote:
> Everything's the same.

Please post a link to a picture of your garage or basement.
Thanks.

(Save this post for when you paste the same thing at the end of 2015
for reuse in 2026.)


== 2 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 12:46 am
From: "Bob F"


Dennis M wrote:
> In article <hhgs3b$ihh$1@news.eternal-september.org>, "Bob F"
> <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dennis M wrote:
>>> Everything's the same.
>>
>> Including my appointments?
>
> <shrug> I don't deface mine, or if I do I do it in light pencil or
> with a post-it note.
>
> Just thought there might be some others like me who like to buy
> special-interest calendars which can go for $10, usually more.

Hey, don't mind me. I'm just having some fun.

== 3 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 6:07 am
From: "h"

"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hhgs3b$ihh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> Dennis M wrote:
>> Everything's the same.
>
> Including my appointments?
>
My thoughts exactly. However, when I mentioned to someone that I still keep
my appointments on a paper calendar in the kitchen she looked at me like I
had three heads. Apparently "everyone" keeps his or her schedule
electronically these days and print calendars are "obsolete". Yes, I do keep
my client list/order queue electronically, but that comes in via email
already. Everything else like dentist appts., dinner with mom, etc., goes on
a common calendar in the kitchen so we both know what's going on.


== 4 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 6:14 am
From: BillGill


Dennis M wrote:
> Everything's the same.

Well, the actual number for an exact repeat of the calendar is 27
years. There may be some repeats in between, I'm not about to sit
down and figure it out, but you will always get repeats at 27.

Bill


== 5 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 7:33 am
From: Al


On Dec 31, 9:14 am, BillGill <billne...@cox.net> wrote:
> Dennis M wrote:
> > Everything's the same.
>
> Well, the actual number for an exact repeat of the calendar is 27
> years.  There may be some repeats in between, I'm not about to sit
> down and figure it out, but you will always get repeats at 27.
>
> Bill

Or maybe not, Bill. Just wait another six years and check again.
You're going to be late for a lot of appointments by a few years.
2009 current year + 11 years
2015 6 years after + 6 years
2026 17 years after + 11 years
2037 28 years after + 11 years
2043 34 years after + 6 years
2054 45 years after + 11 years
2065 56 years after + 11 years


== 6 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 2:09 pm
From: Jamie


On Dec 31, 7:33 am, Al <albun...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> On Dec 31, 9:14 am, BillGill <billne...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Dennis M wrote:
> > > Everything's the same.
>
> > Well, the actual number for an exact repeat of the calendar is 27
> > years.  There may be some repeats in between, I'm not about to sit
> > down and figure it out, but you will always get repeats at 27.
>
> > Bill
>
> Or maybe not, Bill.    Just wait another six years and check again.
> You're going to be late for a lot of appointments by a few years.
> 2009    current year    + 11 years
> 2015    6 years after   + 6 years
> 2026    17 years after  + 11 years
> 2037    28 years after  + 11 years
> 2043    34 years after  + 6 years
> 2054    45 years after  + 11 years
> 2065    56 years after  + 11 years

Prior to 2009:
1998: 11 years earlier
1987: 11 years earlier
1981: 6 years earlier
This is as far I back as I can recall


== 7 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 2:36 pm
From: Jim Prescott


In article <5l2%m.1814$Gf3.703@newsfe22.iad>,
BillGill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
>Dennis M wrote:
>> Everything's the same.
>Well, the actual number for an exact repeat of the calendar is 27
>years. There may be some repeats in between, I'm not about to sit
>down and figure it out, but you will always get repeats at 27.

There are only 14 possible calendars. Get one of each and then
you are all set.
--
Jim Prescott Edmund A. Hajim School of Engineering and Applied Sciences
jgp@seas.rochester.edu University of Rochester, NY


== 8 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 2:57 pm
From: "Don K"


"Jim Prescott" <jgp@seas.rochester.edu> wrote in message
news:hhj917$jrc@harn.ceas.rochester.edu...
> In article <5l2%m.1814$Gf3.703@newsfe22.iad>,
> BillGill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
>>Dennis M wrote:
>>> Everything's the same.
>>Well, the actual number for an exact repeat of the calendar is 27
>>years. There may be some repeats in between, I'm not about to sit
>>down and figure it out, but you will always get repeats at 27.
>
> There are only 14 possible calendars. Get one of each and then
> you are all set.

That's assuming you don't care about those lunar holidays that
move around every year.

== 9 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 3:13 pm
From: Jim Prescott


In article <hhja9k$qg7$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
Don K <dk@comcast.net> wrote:
>"Jim Prescott" <jgp@seas.rochester.edu> wrote in message
>news:hhj917$jrc@harn.ceas.rochester.edu...
>> In article <5l2%m.1814$Gf3.703@newsfe22.iad>,
>> BillGill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
>>>Dennis M wrote:
>>>> Everything's the same.
>>>Well, the actual number for an exact repeat of the calendar is 27
>>>years. There may be some repeats in between, I'm not about to sit
>>>down and figure it out, but you will always get repeats at 27.
>>
>> There are only 14 possible calendars. Get one of each and then
>> you are all set.
>That's assuming you don't care about those lunar holidays that
>move around every year.

Ok, then there are only 392* possible calendars. Might just as well
buy a new one each year :-)

*Assuming 28 days in a lunar month which probably isn't strictly true.
--
Jim Prescott Edmund A. Hajim School of Engineering and Applied Sciences
jgp@seas.rochester.edu University of Rochester, NY


== 10 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 4:52 pm
From: "h"

"Jim Prescott" <jgp@seas.rochester.edu> wrote in message
news:hhj917$jrc@harn.ceas.rochester.edu...
> In article <5l2%m.1814$Gf3.703@newsfe22.iad>,
> BillGill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
>>Dennis M wrote:
>>> Everything's the same.
>>Well, the actual number for an exact repeat of the calendar is 27
>>years. There may be some repeats in between, I'm not about to sit
>>down and figure it out, but you will always get repeats at 27.
>
> There are only 14 possible calendars. Get one of each and then
> you are all set.
> --
Again, assuming you don't write your appointments on the kitchen calendar
(only one in the house).


== 11 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 4:54 pm
From: "h"

"Jim Prescott" <jgp@seas.rochester.edu> wrote in message
news:hhjb6a$k44@harn.ceas.rochester.edu...
> In article <hhja9k$qg7$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Don K <dk@comcast.net> wrote:
>>"Jim Prescott" <jgp@seas.rochester.edu> wrote in message
>>news:hhj917$jrc@harn.ceas.rochester.edu...
>>> In article <5l2%m.1814$Gf3.703@newsfe22.iad>,
>>> BillGill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>Dennis M wrote:
>>>>> Everything's the same.
>>>>Well, the actual number for an exact repeat of the calendar is 27
>>>>years. There may be some repeats in between, I'm not about to sit
>>>>down and figure it out, but you will always get repeats at 27.
>>>
>>> There are only 14 possible calendars. Get one of each and then
>>> you are all set.
>>That's assuming you don't care about those lunar holidays that
>>move around every year.
>
> Ok, then there are only 392* possible calendars. Might just as well
> buy a new one each year :-)
>
Yup. they cost about $4, have ample space to write appointments, and have
twelve pretty pictures. Seems a reasonable deal.


== 12 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 5:09 pm
From: Vic Smith


On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:52:47 -0500, "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com>
wrote:

>
>"Jim Prescott" <jgp@seas.rochester.edu> wrote in message
>news:hhj917$jrc@harn.ceas.rochester.edu...
>> In article <5l2%m.1814$Gf3.703@newsfe22.iad>,
>> BillGill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
>>>Dennis M wrote:
>>>> Everything's the same.
>>>Well, the actual number for an exact repeat of the calendar is 27
>>>years. There may be some repeats in between, I'm not about to sit
>>>down and figure it out, but you will always get repeats at 27.
>>
>> There are only 14 possible calendars. Get one of each and then
>> you are all set.
>> --
>Again, assuming you don't write your appointments on the kitchen calendar
>(only one in the house).
>
We have that too, and sometimes jot things on it.
But I bought a PIM a couple years ago after trying about 20 of them.
I like this one, and once I put my addresses - with birthdates - in
there I always get timely reminders and haven't missed a birthday or
other "appointment" yet.
Just wasn't the case with the calendar. Sometimes days go by without
looking at it.
And I don't want to put recurring stuff on a calendar every year.
Besides, the PIM has all my various account and password info,
and one click links to most everywhere I go.
Still have a calendar on the kitchen wall though. Pretty pictures.

--Vic


== 13 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 5:23 pm
From: "h"

"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:q3iqj55nbd4irtfpqmc8mhs9oo093btc3q@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:52:47 -0500, "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jim Prescott" <jgp@seas.rochester.edu> wrote in message
>>news:hhj917$jrc@harn.ceas.rochester.edu...
>>> In article <5l2%m.1814$Gf3.703@newsfe22.iad>,
>>> BillGill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>Dennis M wrote:
>>>>> Everything's the same.
>>>>Well, the actual number for an exact repeat of the calendar is 27
>>>>years. There may be some repeats in between, I'm not about to sit
>>>>down and figure it out, but you will always get repeats at 27.
>>>
>>> There are only 14 possible calendars. Get one of each and then
>>> you are all set.
>>> --
>>Again, assuming you don't write your appointments on the kitchen calendar
>>(only one in the house).
>>
> We have that too, and sometimes jot things on it.
> But I bought a PIM a couple years ago after trying about 20 of them.
> I like this one, and once I put my addresses - with birthdates - in
> there I always get timely reminders and haven't missed a birthday or
> other "appointment" yet.
> Just wasn't the case with the calendar. Sometimes days go by without
> looking at it.
> And I don't want to put recurring stuff on a calendar every year.
> Besides, the PIM has all my various account and password info,
> and one click links to most everywhere I go.
> Still have a calendar on the kitchen wall though. Pretty pictures.
>
> --Vic


I'll bite, what is a PIM?


== 14 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 5:50 pm
From: Vic Smith


On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:23:50 -0500, "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com>
wrote:

>
>"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:q3iqj55nbd4irtfpqmc8mhs9oo093btc3q@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 31 Dec 2009 19:52:47 -0500, "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jim Prescott" <jgp@seas.rochester.edu> wrote in message
>>>news:hhj917$jrc@harn.ceas.rochester.edu...
>>>> In article <5l2%m.1814$Gf3.703@newsfe22.iad>,
>>>> BillGill <billnews2@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>Dennis M wrote:
>>>>>> Everything's the same.
>>>>>Well, the actual number for an exact repeat of the calendar is 27
>>>>>years. There may be some repeats in between, I'm not about to sit
>>>>>down and figure it out, but you will always get repeats at 27.
>>>>
>>>> There are only 14 possible calendars. Get one of each and then
>>>> you are all set.
>>>> --
>>>Again, assuming you don't write your appointments on the kitchen calendar
>>>(only one in the house).
>>>
>> We have that too, and sometimes jot things on it.
>> But I bought a PIM a couple years ago after trying about 20 of them.
>> I like this one, and once I put my addresses - with birthdates - in
>> there I always get timely reminders and haven't missed a birthday or
>> other "appointment" yet.
>> Just wasn't the case with the calendar. Sometimes days go by without
>> looking at it.
>> And I don't want to put recurring stuff on a calendar every year.
>> Besides, the PIM has all my various account and password info,
>> and one click links to most everywhere I go.
>> Still have a calendar on the kitchen wall though. Pretty pictures.
>>
>> --Vic
>
>
>I'll bite, what is a PIM?
>

Personal Information Manager.
Plenty out there to try free. Just google.
I went with C-Organizer Pro. 30 bucks I think.
But everybody's got personal tastes on what they like.
One of the selling points for me with this one is it imported all
my info in csv format, so I could get it from my old address book
software without re-typing everything or cut/pasting.
Still had to tweak some.
But there's plenty of other things I like about it.
Like anything else it takes a while to set up and get used to.
But after that it's a breeze.

--Vic


== 15 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 9:51 pm
From: The Real Bev


h wrote:

> "Jim Prescott" <jgp@seas.rochester.edu> wrote:
>
>> Ok, then there are only 392* possible calendars. Might just as well
>> buy a new one each year :-)
>>
> Yup. they cost about $4, have ample space to write appointments, and have
> twelve pretty pictures. Seems a reasonable deal.

Send a dollar (and it's deductible, too!) to the Disabled American Veterans and
you'll be supplied with beautiful calendars for the rest of your life.

--
Cheers, Bev
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
"I love to go down to the schoolyard and watch all the
little children jump up and down and run around yelling and
screaming...They don't know I'm only using blanks." --Emo


== 16 of 16 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 9:55 pm
From: The Real Bev


Vic Smith wrote:

> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>
>> I'll bite, what is a PIM?
>
> Personal Information Manager. Plenty out there to try free. Just google. I
> went with C-Organizer Pro. 30 bucks I think. But everybody's got personal
> tastes on what they like. One of the selling points for me with this one is
> it imported all my info in csv format, so I could get it from my old address
> book software without re-typing everything or cut/pasting. Still had to
> tweak some. But there's plenty of other things I like about it. Like
> anything else it takes a while to set up and get used to. But after that
> it's a breeze.

I favor tkremind. Simple, useful, free... I also carry around one of those
little checkbook-size month-at-a-glance calendars that some charity gives out.
Anybody who needs anything more complex needs to learn to relax :-)

--
Cheers, Bev
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
"I love to go down to the schoolyard and watch all the
little children jump up and down and run around yelling and
screaming...They don't know I'm only using blanks." --Emo

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TOPIC: Cinnamon
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9456b6a50de07768?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 7:59 pm
From: Marsha


Hubby made glazed carrots, which included cinnamon, nutmeg, and honey.
Both times I tried it, it caused extreme throat irritation and coughing.
I'm guessing it was the cinnamon, but have no proof. Cinnamon in
anything else hasn't bothered me. Google hasn't produced anything thus
far. Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks. Marsha

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TOPIC: 2009: The Year Wall Street Bounced Back & Main Street Got Shafted
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a605d782925e3b60?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Dec 31 2009 11:35 pm
From: "david7gable@aol.com"


"The big banks on Wall Street, propped up by taxpayer money and
government guarantees, have had a record year, making record profits
while returning to the highly leveraged activities that brought our
economy to the brink of disaster. In a slap in the face to taxpayers,
they have also cut back on the money they are lending, even though the
need to get credit flowing again was one of the main points used in
selling the public the bank bailout. But since April, the Big Four
banks -- JP Morgan/Chase, Citibank, Bank of America, and Wells Fargo
-- all of which took billions in taxpayer money, have cut lending to
businesses by $100 billion."
http://tinyurl.com/yafueme

Robert Reich
2009: The Year Wall Street Bounced Back & Main Street Got Shafted
http://tinyurl.com/yangxuq

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