Frugal Living: Oct 14, 2010

Thursday, October 14, 2010

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Oct 12 2010 9:39 pm
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Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 2:42 am
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TOPIC: Soap Stamping machine for sale
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 2:46 am
From: Chief Thracian

On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:46:07 -0700 (PDT), Vinayak Kapdoskar
<entece@gmail.com> wrote:

>The following is the offer for all the soap manufacturing plants in
>the world.

Sounds like a slippery deal to me!

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TOPIC: Conspiracy Theory: Are Christians trying to take over the Earth?
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 5:03 am
From: JimmyMac

On Oct 12, 1:36 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3029bbee-e616-4022-84b3-9ecce1b45dce@l20g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > OK, this is some pep talk for our White Brothers and Black Brothers
> > (we are all brothers) in South Africa. The White Brothers may choose
> > to ignore me, but then they'll be exposed to the inexorable Law of the
> > Jungle, which is INJUSTICE IS THE MOTHER OF REVOLUTION AND EXTINCTION.
> > Our Black Brothers too have been part of the game, so they also have a
> > vested interest in coming out of the jungle. If living in harmony and
> > peace is our idea then the Netherlands becomes a good model. I'd argue
> > that Holland is a hundred times more stable than South Africa, but
> > it's so much more at risk of flooding because of the SUVs and other
> > unnecessary consumption, something to bear in mind by Christians and
> > other addicts to consumerism...
>
> > This is as intricate as the jungle so one more time it proves more
> > useful than the old Christian metaphors of Adam, Eve and the Serpent
> > in analyzing the complexity of the world. I'll put it this way, this
> > is just a little outing in the jungle.
>
> > CLARIFICATION TO MY SMART READERS in Africa:
>
> > My lion is not a white Christian person and the monkey a black
> > person.
>
> > The lion has the lion's share of resources while ignoring the mundane
> > monkeys. The powerful has chosen their symbol while I chose the monkey
> > for the rest. Actually the situation may be that the lion is black and
> > the monkey is white. My approach is NOT communist BS that all animals
> > are equal. We are all unique, but we must all have our own space.
> > Under attack is the concept that Western values are "civilization,"
> > and that "democracy" is a drug that cures all. It's also highly
> > uncivilized that people have to live in GATED COMMUNITIES while the
> > jungle prospers outside, particularly due to drugs which must be
> > legalized.
>
> > We all know Africa is ruled by black elites who live like in the West.
> > That's part of the game. The center of power is in the West. We are
> > the hungry lion, and I can't even be safe riding a bike, which is a
> > great solution for the world. SUVs are also part of the fashionable
> > Globalization, which have found their way to Africa. It's not the good
> > old-fashioned Land Rover on safari; it's the lion himself driving it.
>
> > They have made monkeys out of people who want to own an SUV too in
> > MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO fashion. That's the power of advertising. They
> > want to feel adventurous and be part of the "lions' club." Really
> > adventurous people who love the great outdoors and wildlife, must be
> > pissed at their copycats. Democracy has brought a wave of crime to
> > South Africa not seen before. Apartheid was a crime but democracy has
> > bred a lot of foxes in the political jungle.
>
> > My wisdom takes a combination of "you scratch my back..." and an "eye
> > for an eye." All those resources wasted in wars and terrorism must be
> > used to fight crime and sustainable growth. "Jesus ain't coming soon,"
> > he told me. ;)
>
> I charge TM with being the greatest asshole bore ever to infest Usenet. But
> I can't help feeling sorry for the poor crazy bastard. After all, he doesn't
> know any better, being the imbecile that he is. Folks, you cannot learn to
> be this stupid, you have to be born to it.
>
> TM needs to confine himself to just a couple of threads at most since all he
> ever does is just post the same old shit over and over. It is also
> incredibly stupid of him to think that anyone in this day and age is going
> to relate to his animal metaphors. Where does such stupidity come from?
>
> The most absurd of all his posts are his religious rants. My God, this poor
> benighted moron is way too stupid to ever grasp anything as abstract as
> religion. I think he might be able to grasp a monkey's ass and/or cock, but
> surely that is it.
>
> TM is nothing but a poor crazy bastard and if anyone wants to put him out of
> his misery, he will have my blessing. But surely there is some motorist in
> Florida who will accommodate us. And the sooner the better!

Well so much for your ...."TM only deserves a "Fuck You" copy and
paste reply.

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 7:27 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

On Oct 13, 6:29 am, "thomas p." <gudl...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Randolf Richardson (Lumber Cartel, local 42)"
> <kingpin+n...@lumbercartel.ca> skrev i meddelelsennews:op.vkhpskmgp0vtgn@laptop64.home.inter-corporate.com...
>
> > On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 07:12:34 -0700, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the
> > Spirits of the Jungle <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Oct 12, 7:08 am, Mystic Merman <mysticmer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I'll place my bet on the Muslims.
>
> >> That's a big risk... Are you willing to place your money on something
> >> that doesn't have Jesus or nuclear weapons?
>
> > No nuclear weapons? That depends on Pakistan.
>
> Clearly there is a conspiracy of cockroaches encouraging the use of nuclear
> weapons by anybody at all, so that they can take over the Earth.
> (By the way the above was a sarcastic remark)

It all makes sense to me. That's sinister plot: The Monkeys annihilate
themselves and the Roaches take over.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 9:24 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

On Oct 13, 9:11 am, duke <duckgumb...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 06:33:52 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the TibetanMonkey &
> the Spirits of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >They got Jesus and the Media (mind control), the weapons (fear), and
> >the money (to corrupt the world)... Are they up to something?
>
> Christians WILL take over the world.

Yes, they will but it'll be only be temporary.

The forces of extinction will be accelerated as well, and the jungle
with the roaches will come back.

They ignore the laws of nature.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 9:26 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a017e427-877d-4127-906e-51ded6855c0c@k11g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 12, 1:36 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> I charge TM with being the greatest asshole bore ever to infest Usenet.
> But
> I can't help feeling sorry for the poor crazy bastard. After all, he
> doesn't
> know any better, being the imbecile that he is. Folks, you cannot learn to
> be this stupid, you have to be born to it.
>
> TM needs to confine himself to just a couple of threads at most since all
> he
> ever does is just post the same old shit over and over. It is also
> incredibly stupid of him to think that anyone in this day and age is going
> to relate to his animal metaphors. Where does such stupidity come from?
>
> The most absurd of all his posts are his religious rants. My God, this
> poor
> benighted moron is way too stupid to ever grasp anything as abstract as
> religion. I think he might be able to grasp a monkey's ass and/or cock,
> but
> surely that is it.
>
> TM is nothing but a poor crazy bastard and if anyone wants to put him out
> of
> his misery, he will have my blessing. But surely there is some motorist in
> Florida who will accommodate us. And the sooner the better!

>> Well so much for your ...."TM only deserves a "Fuck You" copy and
paste reply.

I have several copy and paste replies all set to go. Some are long and some
are short. I scan his posts and then reply with whatever seems most
appropriate I never waste more than a few seconds on that asshole-idiot.

The main thing for him to do if he never wants to hear from me is to stop
proliferating original messages. All he needs to do is to get on a thread
and stay on it.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 10:12 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

On Oct 13, 9:26 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a017e427-877d-4127-906e-51ded6855c0c@k11g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 12, 1:36 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
>
>
> > I charge TM with being the greatest asshole bore ever to infest Usenet.
> > But
> > I can't help feeling sorry for the poor crazy bastard. After all, he
> > doesn't
> > know any better, being the imbecile that he is. Folks, you cannot learn to
> > be this stupid, you have to be born to it.
>
> > TM needs to confine himself to just a couple of threads at most since all
> > he
> > ever does is just post the same old shit over and over. It is also
> > incredibly stupid of him to think that anyone in this day and age is going
> > to relate to his animal metaphors. Where does such stupidity come from?
>
> > The most absurd of all his posts are his religious rants. My God, this
> > poor
> > benighted moron is way too stupid to ever grasp anything as abstract as
> > religion. I think he might be able to grasp a monkey's ass and/or cock,
> > but
> > surely that is it.
>
> > TM is nothing but a poor crazy bastard and if anyone wants to put him out
> > of
> > his misery, he will have my blessing. But surely there is some motorist in
> > Florida who will accommodate us. And the sooner the better!
> >> Well so much for your ...."TM only deserves a "Fuck You" copy and
>
> paste reply.
>
> I have several copy and paste replies all set to go. Some are long and some
> are short. I scan his posts and then reply with whatever seems most
> appropriate I never waste more than a few seconds on that asshole-idiot.
>
> The main thing for him to do if he never wants to hear from me is to stop
> proliferating original messages. All he needs to do is to get on a thread
> and stay on it.

That plan sounds Machiavellian. Do you like Machiavellus?

"Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its
pupils" ... - Louis Hector Berlioz

As you noticed he didn't say that but the quotation is very smart.
Actually Machiavellus was sneaky, not smart.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 10:46 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f3f0bf95-dc84-4cc9-8df0-71f4e4ffea46@n40g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 13, 9:26 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> I have several copy and paste replies all set to go. Some are long and
> some
> are short. I scan his posts and then reply with whatever seems most
> appropriate I never waste more than a few seconds on that asshole-idiot.
>
> The main thing for him to do if he never wants to hear from me is to stop
> proliferating original messages. All he needs to do is to get on a thread
> and stay on it.

>> That plan sounds Machiavellian. Do you like Machiavellus?

Dumb.

>> "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its
pupils" ... - Louis Hector Berlioz

Dumber.

>> As you noticed he didn't say that but the quotation is very smart.
Actually Machiavellus was sneaky, not smart.

Dumbest.

I repeat, do not proliferate original posts since there is nothing original
in any of them. Find your thread and then stay on it. We all know by now
that you are a dumb bastard who has nothing to say to any of us.

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 8:54 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

On Oct 11, 11:37 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Oct 11, 7:26 am, "Ala" <alackr...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:4e6eb71b-e46c-4f9d-b282-47eada580bfc@k11g2000vbf.googlegroups.com...
> > (
>
> > >Nobody wants to hear this, but Jesus was an intergalactic prophet, who
> > >came to this Earth without knowing human nature. He later learned to
> > >bring an army with him if he couldn't get God to help him.
>
> > often people don't want to hear this either.
> > There was no Jesus
>
> People often want to hear a "pretty story."
>
> Well, here's a pretty story but it doesn't prove Jesus either...
>
> "This is beautiful! Try not to cry..."

> Oh, by the way, Mom, no one else can see what I've written except you.
> To everyone else this is just a blank piece of paper. Isn't that cool?
> I have to give God His pen back now. He needs it to write some more
> names in the Book of Life. Tonight I get to sit at the table with
> Jesus for supper. I'm, sure the food will be great.
>
> Oh, I almost forgot to tell you. I don't hurt anymore. The cancer is
> all gone. I'm glad because I couldn't stand that pain anymore and God
> couldn't stand to see me hurt so much, either. That's when He sent The
> Angel of Mercy to come get me. The Angel said I was a Special
> Delivery! How about that?
>
> Signed with Love from God, Jesus & Me.
>
> http://www.wittyprofiles.com/quotes/1211221

I have my own pretty story to tell, a note from Buddha that I delayed
announcing until a letter such as above became public, and I'd sound
believable. The note read like this:

His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, King of the Apes & the Spirits of
the Jungle:

It is my pleasure to write to you after having found the proper
reincarnation. You don't know what I've been through in the
reincarnation business. I've been a small fish among the big fish and
it ain't easy. The Christians don't know shit because they go with the
flow, so to speak.

Well, I sat under the tree in that lotus position and it was mighty
difficult to hold for long, and then you came along with your hammock.
That was what I was looking for, but it wasn't invented when I was
around.

Anyway, I give you the authority to act on my behalf, and proclaim to
the world that religion is bullshit. Only wisdom --the Wisdom of the
Jungle-- will be used to analyze human behavior. Go for it, MonkeyBoy!
I liked your logo: "Nirvana with a banana!"

PS: Say hello to your parrots, Buddhy specially, as well to the
gerbils and the little mouse, Coco --she's so cute! Tell her she will
be a cat in reincarnation.

***

And at that point the ink disappeared before my eyes as if by magic --
which it surely was.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 9:06 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

I have my own pretty story to tell, a note from Buddha that I delayed
announcing until a letter such as above became public, and I'd sound
believable. The note read like this:

His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, King of the Apes & the Spirits of
the Jungle:

PS: Say hello to your parrots, Buddhy specially, as well to the
gerbils and the little mouse, Coco --she's so cute! Tell her she will
be a cat in reincarnation.

***

And at that point the ink disappeared before my eyes as if by magic --
which it surely was.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 4:53 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:4d7db1bd-17d5-4291-a911-395abd636b47@y3g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> I have my own pretty story to tell, a note from Buddha that I delayed
> announcing until a letter such as above became public, and I'd sound
> believable. The note read like this:
>
> His Highness the Wise TibetanMonkey, King of the Apes & the Spirits of
> the Jungle:
>
> It is my pleasure to write to you after having found the proper
> reincarnation. You don't know what I've been through in the
> reincarnation business. I've been a small fish among the big fish and
> it ain't easy. The Christians don't know shit because they go with the
> flow, so to speak.
>
> Well, I sat under the tree in that lotus position and it was mighty
> difficult to hold for long, and then you came along with your hammock.
> That was what I was looking for, but it wasn't invented when I was
> around.
>
> Anyway, I give you the authority to act on my behalf, and proclaim to
> the world that religion is bullshit. Only wisdom --the Wisdom of the
> Jungle-- will be used to analyze human behavior. Go for it, MonkeyBoy!
> I liked your motto: "Nirvana with a banana!"
>
> PS: Say hello to your parrots, Buddhy specially, as well to the
> gerbils and the little mouse, Coco --she's so cute! Tell her she will
> be a cat in reincarnation.
>
> And at that point the ink disappeared before my eyes as if by magic --
> which it surely was.

You are an infecting, sick-minded, phlegmy hippopotamus.

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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TOPIC: How long open Dijon mustard last
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 11:22 am
From: Mrs Irish Mike

On Oct 11, 9:54 am, noel888 <harri85...@aol.com> wrote:
> I have this open jar in fridge for a while lost count how long do
> mustard's go bad in fridge? There is no expiration dated. I assume
> because of its acidity it could last a very long time in the
> fridge..am i wrong?

From Frenchs' web site:

Q: What is the shelf life of French's® Mustard?

A: Quality, freshness, and flavor are top priorities at French's®. You
may have noticed that we recently changed to a "Best When Used By
Date" coding system on our packaging. This is not an expiration date,
however; the date stamped on the bottom of the bottle is the date by
which we recommend that you use the product in order to ensure its
optimal flavor, freshness, and quality. The product will generally
maintain good flavor quality for two to three months after that date,
if refrigerated. While refrigeration will help maintain flavor, it's
not necessary to refrigerate if you prefer to consume your mustard at
room temperature.

If your French's® product does not have a "Best When Used By Date,"
look for the Julian date production code on the bottle. This code
consists of a letter followed by a five-digit number. The letter
represents the manufacturing location, the first two numbers represent
the year the mustard was produced and the final three numbers
represent the day of the year: this would be a number from 001 - 365.
The recommended shelf life from the date of manufacture of French's®
Mustard is twelve months in a squeeze bottle, eighteen months in
glass, and six months in a packet.

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TOPIC: Gated Communities are Apartheid
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 2:08 pm
From: Forrest Hodge

On 10/13/2010 12:33 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle wrote:
> Hey, nothing like picking on white South Africans. Now it's
> everywhere, trendy and even blacks are part of the game. Maybe a few
> civilized nations are exempt from it, but for the most part it's a
> reality of Globalization. Actually it is said to have started in
> America, not SA, which explains why it became trendy instead of evil.
>
> The jungle is behind the walls, with its culture of gangs, drugs and
> violence, but they only want to be like the people in the walls at the
> subliminal level, and even drive an SUV which is a symbol of power in
> the underworld too.
>
> Thing is, the Mighty and Powerful also live in fear, which is another
> good reason to abandon this form of Apartheid. Think about this stuff
> as you go to sleep, and your conscience will reveal you the path,
> which includes legalizing drugs.
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
>
> "Get off the beaten path and take a stand for the right issues. Crime
> is #1"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> THE MASTER PLAN
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1

I'm curious, what's so wrong with Darwinism? It seems to work well and
has been around since the dawn of the universe.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 5:34 pm
From: Mrs Irish Mike

On Oct 13, 2:08 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> I'm curious, what's so wrong with Darwinism? It seems to work well and
> has been around since the dawn of the universe.

Darwinism works for cockroaches and rats. Humans are susposed to be
self-aware, noble beings.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 6:44 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

On Oct 13, 5:34 pm, Mrs Irish Mike <wilma6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2:08 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm curious, what's so wrong with Darwinism? It seems to work well and
> > has been around since the dawn of the universe.
>
> Darwinism works for cockroaches and rats. Humans are susposed to be
> self-aware, noble beings.

Civilization is supposed to be the negation of Darwinism, but ever
since we entered the Reagan era, we rejected all the advances made.

Now there are only winners and losers, and the winners live inside and
the losers outside.

Here are the very early beginnings (before civilization)...

}There was a time in the long ago past of the human race when we lived
in secure private communities. They were called caves. They were
surrounded by large stone walls, and the only access to them was
through a single narrow gate. The gate was guarded by a big burly
fellow whose purpose was to make sure that the only people, or animals
that came inside were the ones that belonged there."

http://ezinearticles.com/?A-Brief-History-of-Gated-Communities&id=343628

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 7:09 pm
From: Jeff Thies

On 10/13/2010 8:34 PM, Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
> On Oct 13, 2:08 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm curious, what's so wrong with Darwinism? It seems to work well and
>> has been around since the dawn of the universe.
>
> Darwinism works for cockroaches and rats. Humans are susposed to be
> self-aware, noble beings.
>
And exactly how well has that been working out?

Jeff

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 8:03 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

On Oct 13, 7:09 pm, Jeff Thies <jeff_th...@att.net> wrote:
> On 10/13/2010 8:34 PM, Mrs Irish Mike wrote:> On Oct 13, 2:08 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> I'm curious, what's so wrong with Darwinism? It seems to work well and
> >> has been around since the dawn of the universe.
>
> > Darwinism works for cockroaches and rats. Humans are susposed to be
> > self-aware, noble beings.
>
> And exactly how well has that been working out?
>
> Jeff

It hasn't been working that well. The combination of EXCLUSION and
QUICK CASH to be made selling drugs has led to an explosive
situation...

'In post-liberal Los Angeles, awareness of this desperate situation is
such that the defense of the privileged and middle class neighborhoods
has taken on a sudden urgency. The desire of the ordinary middle class
to live in socially insulated communities has created a frenzy for
security fencing around entire neighborhoods, emulating the luxury,
fortressed "minimal" cities that developed in the 1950s and 1960s,
like Hidden Hills, Bradbury, Palos Verdes Estates, Hidden Hills and
Rancho Mirage. Older communities like Bradbury, with 900 residents and
ten miles of private streets, are fully enclosed with guarded entry
points and served by public and private security services and are
impossible to enter without an invitation from a resident. The San
Fernando Valley, completely open ten years ago, now has over one
hundred newly gated communities. The demand for more security is
nearly insatiable. Valley contractor Brian Weinstock remarked, "The
demand is there on a three-to-one basis for a gated community than not
living in a gated community."'

'By establishing a siege mentality amongst middle and upper classes,
the real problems are essentially ignored.'

'Los Angeles illustrates these principles perhaps on a greater scale
than cities such as Houston or Dallas, but unless these issues are
confronted in a realistic manner, periodic riots, repressive police
actions, increasing gang violence and environmental degradation
promise to reduce the quality of life for all citizens.'

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== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 8:13 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"

On Oct 13, 8:01 pm, B Sellers <bl...@sfo.com> wrote:
> On 10/13/2010 06:51 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> > On Oct 13, 5:34 pm, Mrs Irish Mike<wilma6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Oct 13, 2:08 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> I'm curious, what's so wrong with Darwinism? It seems to work well and
> >>> has been around since the dawn of the universe.
>
> >> Darwinism works for cockroaches and rats. Humans are susposed to be
> >> self-aware, noble beings.
>
> > Civilization is supposed to be the negation of Darwinism, but ever
> > since we entered the Reagan era, we rejected all the advances made.
>
> > Now there are only winners and losers, and the winners live inside and
> > the losers outside.
>
> > Here are the very early beginnings (before civilization)...
>
> > "There was a time in the long ago past of the human race when we lived
> > in secure private communities. They were called caves. They were
> > surrounded by large stone walls, and the only access to them was
> > through a single narrow gate. The gate was guarded by a big burly
> > fellow whose purpose was to make sure that the only people, or animals
> > that came inside were the ones that belonged there."
>
> >http://ezinearticles.com/?A-Brief-History-of-Gated-Communities&id=343628
>
> Actually the beginning of (in)civilization as we know it was when
> people began to settle down in what were at first small communities
> and farm. They had to stick around to mind the crops. Then the people
> who hadn't gotten around to minding crops would follow their herds
> and the farmers fought to keep the herds off their croplands. The
> little settlements got together into little towns that looked like
> the native American pueblos of the North American Southwest and some
> people became warriors to drive off the nomads and their animals
> and others the tenders of the crops and this was the beginning
> of Law and Order but not the TV show which would come much later.
>
> Real civilization has yet to arrive as Gandhi said, it would
> be a good idea but it seems but our technology isn't up to civilization
> yet.
>
> In some places the nomads moved on to horseback eventually
> and terrorized the rest of the world but fortunately they succumbed
> to the blessings of settled life and became the decadent rulers of
> the people they had conquered. The blessings of settled and
> ordered life seem to lead to decadence except for the bottom
> of the social order.
>
> We have gates on all communities but they are mostly
> invisible matters of speech, manners, and money.
>
> later
> bliss

Also separated by the ones that buy the drugs and the ones that sell
it, and the types of drugs as well. Marijuana and crack for the
survivors.

A good way to fight all this jungle is to legalize the illegal and
crack down on the obvious crimes like armed robbery. Place cameras in
hot places, increase police presence, give opportunities to the
youngsters to do something like riding a bike and breaking away from
the gang.

The problem is now our resources are channeled into terrorism and the
war on drugs, as well as managing the prison industry.

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Date: Wed, Oct 13 2010 2:46 pm
From: vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com

Thanks. I'm thinking the cracks (eg in wall) become like waveguides. There
was no paperwork with the flashlight, only on the net ad that I bought it
from. Some ads don't say IR and yet their flashlight looks identical so I am
not sure how IR the IR is. But my teeth do light up like they are an echo
chamber for the light that hits them (highighting non-tooth material by its
darkness). Most transluscent stuff I point the pointer at light up the same
way. I think the label might better say near-IR and near-UV, because a lot
of med tek makes such a distinction. The plaque on my teeth looks yellow on
the UV setting, while the teeth look purple. There are a lot of equipment
which use UV and IR for construction, but they have fancy signal processing
software to enhance the image. I know an engineer who looks at how your house
temperature changes during the day to figure out where your insulation might
have failed. Still, given that this flashlight is five hundred times cheaper
than the fancy equipment, it is worth exploring.

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