Monday, April 5, 2010

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Today's topics:

* Social security - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d88079bb19fcaa9a?hl=en
* Could we be more wasteful? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/66ac567f385d4667?hl=en
* think Positive ! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c00faf7aa92da8f2?hl=en
* What if climate change is a big hoax and we make a better world for nothing?
- 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/01e8327e9564d243?hl=en

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TOPIC: Social security
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d88079bb19fcaa9a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 4 2010 7:21 pm
From: MAS


On 4/4/2010 10:20 PM, missussex wrote:
> On Apr 4, 7:07 pm, MAS<m...@bbbb.net> wrote:
>> On 4/4/2010 8:33 PM, Samantha Hill wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> I don't think I'm being clear. I know how it works if you are divorced
>> - you must have been married at least 10 years. I'm asking about a
>> couple who will be married less than 10 years at the time of their full
>> retirement age, and one wants to claim off of the current spouse's SS,
>> disregarding whether either or both were married before because neither
>> is wanting to claim off of an ex-spouse. So far, Google hasn't come up
>> with anything to answer that specific question, and I really didn't want
>> to wait on hold all day by calling SS. I was just hoping that someone
>> on here would know or would have been in that situation. Heck, I have
>> several years before this comes into play. Everything will probably
>> change by then.
>
> As far as I know, the length of the marriage doesn't matter unless you
> are divorced.

Thank you. If true, that's interesting.

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TOPIC: Could we be more wasteful?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 4 2010 7:25 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"


On Apr 4, 9:20 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 4, 2:44 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
> >>> On Apr 4, 5:01 am, Ha Ha Boomer <jboom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Apr 3, 11:36 pm, TheTibetanMonkey <thetibetanmon...@yahoo.com>
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>> I think we are owned by China now. ;)
>
> >>>> So you post errouneous nonsence, and answer yourself, taking up our
> >>>> bandwith
> >>>> with your stupid ideas....
>
> >>>> No Body Knows you and your an IDIOT
>
> >>>> AH H HA HA HA HA
>
> >>>> So, Welcome Home, throw another log on the fire
>
> >>>> And Sit on some Banana's
> >>>> w
>
> >>> You are wrong, sir. First of all, I sit on my ass. Just like Jesus.
>
> >>> And secondly, if China were to launch a trade war with America...
> >>> you will have to eat shit...
>
> >> Nope, they'd lose. They aint that stupid.
>
> > Maybe America is stupid in putting too much pressure on them.
>
> It aint putting any pressure on them at all, child.
>
> They know who is funding their immense national debt, even if you dont.
>
> > But most everybody that feels powerful gets arrogant.
>
> Corse you never ever do anything like that, eh child ?
>
> >>> "China's commerce minister: U.S. has the most to lose in a trade
> >>> war"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03
> >> Corse he wouldnt be just a tad biased, eh ?
> > They control the manufacturing process,
>
> Like hell they do.
>
> > so how can America ever go on a diet without indulging in overconsumption? They would win.
>
> Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland.

Oh c'mon, we would die without China. Which is to say, we would have a
simpler life, and the roles may be reversed with China running the
world. And now they have become hungry too.

I'm just saying.

The point is WHY on earth we are so advanced as to not being able to
ride a bike?


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 4 2010 8:14 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
> On Apr 4, 9:20 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2:44 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>>
>>>>> On Apr 4, 5:01 am, Ha Ha Boomer <jboom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Apr 3, 11:36 pm, TheTibetanMonkey <thetibetanmon...@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> I think we are owned by China now. ;)
>>
>>>>>> So you post errouneous nonsence, and answer yourself, taking up
>>>>>> our bandwith
>>>>>> with your stupid ideas....
>>
>>>>>> No Body Knows you and your an IDIOT
>>
>>>>>> AH H HA HA HA HA
>>
>>>>>> So, Welcome Home, throw another log on the fire
>>
>>>>>> And Sit on some Banana's
>>>>>> w
>>
>>>>> You are wrong, sir. First of all, I sit on my ass. Just like
>>>>> Jesus.
>>
>>>>> And secondly, if China were to launch a trade war with America...
>>>>> you will have to eat shit...
>>
>>>> Nope, they'd lose. They aint that stupid.
>>
>>> Maybe America is stupid in putting too much pressure on them.
>>
>> It aint putting any pressure on them at all, child.
>>
>> They know who is funding their immense national debt, even if you
>> dont.
>>
>>> But most everybody that feels powerful gets arrogant.
>>
>> Corse you never ever do anything like that, eh child ?
>>
>>>>> "China's commerce minister: U.S. has the most to lose in a trade
>>>>> war"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03
>>>> Corse he wouldnt be just a tad biased, eh ?
>>> They control the manufacturing process,
>>
>> Like hell they do.
>>
>>> so how can America ever go on a diet without indulging in
>>> overconsumption? They would win.
>>
>> Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland.

> Oh c'mon, we would die without China.

Nope, someone else would start manufacturing what they currently make.

> Which is to say, we would have a simpler life, and the
> roles may be reversed with China running the world.

Pure fantasy, they cant even run tibet.

> And now they have become hungry too.

No one goes hungry anymore except when the place has decended
into the most obscene levels of civil chaos and civil war or are stupid
enough to let some fool like Kim Jung Il rule the roost, stupid.

> I'm just saying.

Stop it at once. And let go of your dick before you end up completely blind too.

> The point is WHY on earth we are so advanced
> as to not being able to ride a bike?

Even the chinese arent stupid enough ride bikes anymore, stupid.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 4 2010 8:32 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"


On Apr 4, 11:14 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 4, 9:20 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
> >>> On Apr 4, 2:44 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
> >>>>> On Apr 4, 5:01 am, Ha Ha Boomer <jboom...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Apr 3, 11:36 pm, TheTibetanMonkey <thetibetanmon...@yahoo.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> I think we are owned by China now. ;)
>
> >>>>>> So you post errouneous nonsence, and answer yourself, taking up
> >>>>>> our bandwith
> >>>>>> with your stupid ideas....
>
> >>>>>> No Body Knows you and your an IDIOT
>
> >>>>>> AH H HA HA HA HA
>
> >>>>>> So, Welcome Home, throw another log on the fire
>
> >>>>>> And Sit on some Banana's
> >>>>>> w
>
> >>>>> You are wrong, sir. First of all, I sit on my ass. Just like
> >>>>> Jesus.
>
> >>>>> And secondly, if China were to launch a trade war with America...
> >>>>> you will have to eat shit...
>
> >>>> Nope, they'd lose. They aint that stupid.
>
> >>> Maybe America is stupid in putting too much pressure on them.
>
> >> It aint putting any pressure on them at all, child.
>
> >> They know who is funding their immense national debt, even if you
> >> dont.
>
> >>> But most everybody that feels powerful gets arrogant.
>
> >> Corse you never ever do anything like that, eh child ?
>
> >>>>> "China's commerce minister: U.S. has the most to lose in a trade
> >>>>> war"http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03
> >>>> Corse he wouldnt be just a tad biased, eh ?
> >>> They control the manufacturing process,
>
> >> Like hell they do.
>
> >>> so how can America ever go on a diet without indulging in
> >>> overconsumption? They would win.
>
> >> Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland.
> > Oh c'mon, we would die without China.
>
> Nope, someone else would start manufacturing what they currently make.
>
> > Which is to say, we would have a simpler life, and the
> > roles may be reversed with China running the world.
>
> Pure fantasy, they cant even run tibet.

I know, but a Tibetan Monkey is not the same as a Tibetan Monk.
>
> > And now they have become hungry too.
>
> No one goes hungry anymore except when the place has decended
> into the most obscene levels of civil chaos and civil war or are stupid
> enough to let some fool like Kim Jung Il rule the roost, stupid.
>
> > I'm just saying.
>
> Stop it at once. And let go of your dick before you end up completely blind too.

I'm even using binoculars, so don't worry. I found a nice little
escape out of the jungle to see the world in perspective.

>
> > The point is WHY on earth we are so advanced
> > as to not being able to ride a bike?
>
> Even the chinese arent stupid enough ride bikes anymore, stupid.

Only the Chinese are willing and able to copycat American way of life.
Not the Japanese, not the Germans, not the French, not the Dutch. They
wanted to buy Hummer, and ride Hummer...

That's called NAPOLEONIC COMPLEX.

Hey, follow the WISE MONKEY...

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiiLDiGfxGZgHHhbWTxnGgwMLK6pED095zGBcRQj_r74s_x2n5YaMv0rNxLOu88vQDO-bZJi2YpP4b62aFUENJHPaCJe6PItTCL1sb5HV2yylqE_pQOWW_THSf8_bm9-xwcTGRYQbZkgeE/s400/Budha_Banana_BIG.jpg

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TOPIC: think Positive !
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 4 2010 9:50 pm
From: VFW

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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 4 2010 11:23 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


VFW wrote:

> MORE REAL WORLD PROOF THAT YOU CAN TRULY DO ANYTHING:

Try farting your way to the moon.

Signal us with a mirror once you get there.

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TOPIC: What if climate change is a big hoax and we make a better world for
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 4 2010 11:37 pm
From: "TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu"


On Apr 4, 9:17 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 4, 2:51 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
> >>> On Apr 4, 12:42 am, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> Just another SneakySnake.
>
> >>>> TibetanMonkey, Originator of the Banana Kung-Fu wrote:
>
> >>>>> (I took the title from a cartoon at the link below)
> >>>>> Yep, that's the irony of it. We don't even have to sacrifice that
> >>>>> much just to play it safe. Just ride a bike or be vegetarian
> >>>>> perhaps.
>
> >>>> Makes a hell of a lot mores sense to use nukes to replace coal
> >>>> fired
> >>>> power stations.
> >>> No, it makes more sense FOR YOU to make personal responsibility.
>
> >> Wrong, as always.
>
> >>> Anything the government does is wasteful, don't you say?
>
> >> Nope.
>
> >>>>> Why so much resistance to change?
> >>>> Because the terminally stupid things proposed will fuck the
> >>>> economy, stupid.
> >>> So the beast we have created is sacred
>
> >> Nope, just works a lot better than all the alternatives, child.
>
> >>> and we can't back down from it and enjoy the simple happy life
> >>> again.
>
> >> I do every day thanks child.
>
> >>> And what economy?
>
> >> The one that provided you with what you communicate with, child.
>
> >>> You must mean China's economy in any case
>
> >> Nope.
>
> >>> since it was passed to them.
>
> >> Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland.
>
> >>>>> I guess that's too threatening to the fat lazy couch potatoes...
> >>>>> ;)
> >>>> It wouldnt fix the problem.
> >>>>> 'Featured as part of the cover story of Scientific American
> >>>>> magazine's April issue, which hit newsstands on March 24, U of M
> >>>>> professor Jon
> >>>>> Foley makes the case for why we need to pay more attention to all
> >>>>> environmental processes that contribute to the Earth's health.
> >>>> Then he's a fool. The environment is doing fine.
> >>> Oh, the environment is doing fine.
>
> >> Yep.
>
> >>> I see WHERE your opposition is coming from now...
>
> >> Nope, because you wanked yourself completely blind, child.
>
> >> You were warned.
>
> >> You wouldnt listen...
>
> >>> You deny the problem,
>
> >> There is no problem, just some fools mindlessly hyperventilating.
>
> >> Fools have been doing that for countless millennia now, child.
>
> >>> so it's OK to keep being wasteful.
>
> >> Yep, you are free to waste countless electrons on your mindless
> >> silly shit.
>
> >>> If we have trashed this country in under 200 years,
>
> >> Just another of your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasys, child.
>
> >>> you shouldn't underestimate the capacity of 7 billion people to
> >>> trash the planet.
>
> >> Not my problem, child.
>
> >>>>> In his article, "Boundaries for a Healthy Planet," he argues
> >>>>> that while climate change gets ample attention, species loss
> >>>>> and nitrogen pollution exceed safe limits by greater degrees.
> >>>> Complete and utter drivel.
> >>>>> In addition, other environmental processes such as ocean
> >>>>> acidification and stratospheric ozone depletion are also moving
> >>>>> toward dangerous thresholds.'
> >>>> More drivel.
> >>>>>http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2010/04/is_earth_past_the_tippi...
> >>> I see that you consider the extinction of the tiger and the polar
> >>> bear drivel.
>
> >> Just a lie.
>
> >>> But many people see the fat lazy Americans lifestyle totally beyond
> >>> proportion and reason.
>
> >> Then do the decent thing and set fire to yourself in 'protest' or
> >> sumfin, child.
>
> >>> Don't you consider it would be nice for me to get on a bike
> >>> and go to the natural supermarket, some 15 miles ride?
>
> >> Nope, I'd have to run you over and squash you flat, child.
>
> >>> No, I must be content to be in the *fucking cage* and take and
> >>> occasional little walk, or drive another *fucking cage* somewhere...
>
> >> Do the decent thing and set fire to yourself or sumfin, child.
>
> > I see you DON'T GIVE A SHIT.
>
> > Well, it sounds like a prevalent look in the United Selfish of
> > America. Maybe you supersize everything out of proportion.
>
> Nothing to do with me, boy.
>
> > Did you see the movie?
>
> Nope, dont bother with that sort of mindless silly shit.
>
> > But when you eat that much shit, you must burn the calories or you die...
>
> Wrong, as always.
>
> > "While examining the influence of the fast food industry,
> > Morgan Spurlock personally explores the consequences
> > on his health of a diet of solely McDonald's food for one month."
> >http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390521/
>
> Just another completely mindless steaming turd.
>
> Right up  your alley no doubt.

You ever heard of hunter-gatherers? Humans are meant to walk and run,
not grow fat like pigs.


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