Monday, April 18, 2011

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Today's topics:

* The Bermuda Triangle of Cycling: L.A. to N.Y. to Miami - 7 messages, 2
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/65313b8022868a67?hl=en
* Is Christianity a Constructive or Destructive Force? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e0ed6c41216f674d?hl=en
* The Prehistoric Brain of Christians has its basis in Biology - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4d9f223ec887e188?hl=en
* Would you stop for a moment?! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f775cfcc11fed329?hl=en
* A bacterial apocalypse of third world sewage - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/2bc7b1452740089d?hl=en
* Muammar hanging tough (fine looking daughter) - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* Are cockroaches the instrument of the Devil or God? - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* JOIN FREE - TO FIND YOUR SOULMATE + INDIAN FRIENDFINDER + GERMAN
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TOPIC: The Bermuda Triangle of Cycling: L.A. to N.Y. to Miami
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 16 2011 7:17 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 16, 10:46 am, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 8:44 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >snip<
> > I was inspired by Opus the Poet and he has some pretty scary stories
> > to tell us. Besides it was one of the few states that refused to give
> > 3' of clearance to cyclists, not that it means anything but it goes to
> > show that they want to avoid liability for drivers at all costs.
>
> I have noticed a big difference between the treatment I get from
> drivers in cities, particularly the one I live in, and rural areas.
> Drivers in rural areas tend to pass further away and have much less
> hostility than their city mouse cousins. Unfortunately almost all the
> riding I have done in the last 3 years has been within 5 miles of my
> house.
>
> And it wasn't Texas that refused to pass the Vulnerable Road Users
> law, it was Rick Perry, our very own Gov. Goodhair.

That's a dangerous governor, I tell you.

Opus, use the Wisdom of the Jungle or common sense and you will see
some hidden dangers on country roads. Firstly, they don't expect bikes
there. Secondly, they may be half sleep. And thirdly, you won't
receive any aid in a hit and run.

I think we have to survive in our Urban Jungle waiting for a miracle.
Well, it's not miracle if we work together to make it happen. ;)

What are the news of the day, according to your record of incidents
and accidents, which are not accidents but preventable incidents.

Incidents are close calls and accidents require a lawyer or
undertaker.


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 8:41 am
From: Bret Cahill


> Outside Magazine has run this article of "Rage Against Your Machine,"
> where cycling in N.Y. is seen as a very dangerous activity, and
> comments from California and Miami confirm that. Here's comment from
> California:
>
> "Having been the victim of two careless drivers... I still bike and
> the rage remains."
>
> "I've ridden to work in Manhattan everyday for six years... It's ten
> hours a week of combat commuting at its purest."
>
> And I can confirm the same from Miami. Then the triangle is formed.
> Notice how Key West falls outside the triangle and and so does
> Portland and San Diego, which I hear has many bike lanes. Texas, on
> the other hand, falls in the triangle and many bad things are heard
> from there.

Anecdotal may not count but a couple decades ago I was heading north
out of Tampa and was almost struck [< 1"] by a car doing 90 mph. I
watched and waited for his brake lights to come on as there was a
short narrow bridge and another motorist about 1 mile ahead.

The brake lights never came on and I heard the crash a mile away.
When I passed both had pulled over and I yelled "learn how to drive,
you almost hit me back there" to the guy in the rear. I went to the
end of my loop and returned as usual. When I got to the accident
scene each vehicle had a crowd around it. The middle aged guy in the
front vehicle saw me and said, "sir, this guy claims he's a sheriff's
deputy . . ."

I nailed the brakes, pulled over and said loud enough for everyone to
hear. "I'm an expert witness. He was going at least 85 mph, probably
90. Here's my home phone number, office number . . . "

For months after that the cop, even when he was in his cruiser, would
blair his horn as he passed.

Every now and then Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office will get
caught in some sordid perverted incident that'll make national news.

It's a systemic problem.


Bret Cahill


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 12:19 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 17, 11:41 am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Every now and then Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office will get
> caught in some sordid perverted incident that'll make national news.
>
> It's a systemic problem.

Yes indeed. Blaming some individuals doesn't do justice to the size of
the problem.

Anyway, right here in Florida wild things happen all the time, and we
hardly have the time to swallow it, let alone the energy to fight the
system. Can we blame the driver or the system? You be the judge...

"Mr. King came to us from Prescott, Arizona. Others arrived from
Michigan, Canada, Wisconsin, Oregon and points north, south east and
west. They came here from far and wide because they all shared a
common passion.

They came to Bike Florida because they ached to round a bend on a back
country road and suddenly find themselves passing beneath a vast oak
canopy draped with silver Spanish Moss all aglow in the rays of a
rising sun. They came here to see crystal clear water gushing up from
the ground and running away in glistening rivulets, like so many
liquid jewels. Some came because snow still covered their favorite
bikeways back home. And others came because nobody is going to tell
them they are not still capable, no matter their age, of cycling 40,
50, 60 or even 70 miles a day, day after day. Or even a century if
they have a mind to.

Robert Paul King rode among us and with us. Until that moment shortly
after noon on Wednesday, March 30, when he was among us no more. Mr.
King was killed after being struck from behind by a fast-moving pickup
truck. The driver, a young man, reportedly told police he had dropped
his cell phone and was reaching down to retrieve it when his vehicle
drifted into the marked shoulder where Mr. King had been cycling."

http://bikeflorida.org/wordpress/

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 4:44 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 17, 3:19 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> http://bikeflorida.org/wordpress/

Same article above:

"In my day job I'm an editorial writer for the Gainesville Sun. I've
lost count of the number of editorials I've written over the years
about distracted driving. I am continually amazed at the cynicism
imbued in our political process that allows our legislators to, year
after year, ignore the deadly statistics associated with distracted
driving. Ban hand-held cell phone use while driving? Outlaw texting
while driving? That might annoy voters who like to do all three at
once."

So find a quiet beach or park if you are not playing Russian Roulette
with your life, and remember the wisdom of the Beach Cruiser...

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 6:48 pm
From: Bret Cahill


> >http://bikeflorida.org/wordpress/
>
> Same article above:
>
> "In my day job I'm an editorial writer for the Gainesville Sun. I've
> lost count of the number of editorials I've written over the years
> about distracted driving. I am continually amazed at the cynicism
> imbued in our political process that allows our legislators to, year
> after year, ignore the deadly statistics associated with distracted
> driving. Ban hand-held cell phone use while driving? Outlaw texting
> while driving? That might annoy voters who like to do all three at
> once."
>
> So find a quiet beach or park if you are not playing Russian Roulette
> with your life, and remember the wisdom of the Beach Cruiser...

April is distracted driver awareness month.


Bret Cahill


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 8:27 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 17, 9:48 pm, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >http://bikeflorida.org/wordpress/
>
> > Same article above:
>
> > "In my day job I'm an editorial writer for the Gainesville Sun. I've
> > lost count of the number of editorials I've written over the years
> > about distracted driving. I am continually amazed at the cynicism
> > imbued in our political process that allows our legislators to, year
> > after year, ignore the deadly statistics associated with distracted
> > driving. Ban hand-held cell phone use while driving? Outlaw texting
> > while driving? That might annoy voters who like to do all three at
> > once."
>
> > So find a quiet beach or park if you are not playing Russian Roulette
> > with your life, and remember the wisdom of the Beach Cruiser...
>
> April is distracted driver awareness month.

I think it's better to have them try a beach cruiser.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 8:53 pm
From: Bret Cahill


> > > >http://bikeflorida.org/wordpress/
>
> > > Same article above:
>
> > > "In my day job I'm an editorial writer for the Gainesville Sun. I've
> > > lost count of the number of editorials I've written over the years
> > > about distracted driving. I am continually amazed at the cynicism
> > > imbued in our political process that allows our legislators to, year
> > > after year, ignore the deadly statistics associated with distracted
> > > driving. Ban hand-held cell phone use while driving? Outlaw texting
> > > while driving? That might annoy voters who like to do all three at
> > > once."
>
> > > So find a quiet beach or park if you are not playing Russian Roulette
> > > with your life, and remember the wisdom of the Beach Cruiser...
>
> > April is distracted driver awareness month.
>
> I think it's better to have them try a beach cruiser.

They can pry my handlebars out of my cold dead hands.


Bret Cahill

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 6:32 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 16, 11:05 pm, livvy <mmrward1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Global Warming
>
> > The Earth is warming and human activity is the primary cause. Climate
> > disruptions put our food and water supply at risk, endanger our
> > health, jeopardize our national security, and threaten other basic
> > human needs. Some impacts—such as record high temperatures, melting
> > glaciers, and severe flooding and droughts—are already becoming
> > increasingly common across the country and around the world. So far,
> > our national leaders are failing to act quickly to reduce heat-
> > trapping emissions.
>
> >http://www.ucsusa.org/-Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Nice goof try, sad that's all you got. Satire. Not working so well
> for you. Satire is one thing, but you make it your life. I get
> it...but you are heavily into it, it's apprently all you got. That
> would be sad. Nice try, though. The enormity of the time you
> spend on this satire, obviously, no one depends on you for
> anything....I hope not.

That's the only hope we got. The warning above about Global Warming is
the truth and yet you Christians choose to ignore it. Satire is like a
whip to expose the lion for all to see. Yes, organized religion is yet
another lion.

We can name a few different lions:

1- Corporations (Big Oil, Junk Food Industry, Medical Industry)

2- Political (it's all about money and reelection, baby)

3- Religion (the charity industry plus the role it plays in "Family
Values" and other political bullshit)

I think that's too deep for your prehistoric brain, right?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 7:08 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


Just as they believe in prehistoric myths, their brain reflects
physical differences that make them unable to understand complexity.

"Essentially, they found that liberals have more gray matter in a part
of the brain associated with understanding complexity, while the
conservative brain is bigger in the section related to processing
fear."

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20110407/politics-brain-structure-110407/

Fear of what? Fear of Liberals and Scientists?

In other words, folks, we may be wasting our time, so at least we
gotta have fun.


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WISDOM OF THE DAY

"Evolution took to the beach and terrestrial animals crawled for the
first time. Yes, LIFE'S A BEACH"

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 10:19 am
From: "mr.jak"

Excuse me!!
Would you stop for a moment?!
O...man...Haven't you thought-one day- about yourself ?
Who has made it?
Have you seen a design which hasn't a designer ?!
Have you seen a wonderful,delicate work without a worker ?!
It's you and the whole universe!..
Who has made them all ?!!
You know who ?.. It's "ALLAH",prise be to him.
Just think for a moment.
How are you going to be after death ?!
Can you believe that this exact system of the universe and all of
these great creation will end in in nothing...just after death!
Have you thought, for a second, How to save your soul from Allah's
punishment?!
Haven't you thought about what is the right religion?!
Read ... and think deeply before you answer..
It is religion of Islam.
It is the religion that Mohammad-peace upon him- the last prophet, had
been sent by.
It is the religion that the right Bible- which is not distorted-has
preached.
Just have a look at The Bible of (Bernaba).
Don't be emstional.
Be rational and judge..
Just look..listen...compare..and then judge and say your word.
We advise you visiting :

http://www.islam-guide.com

http://www.islamhouse.com/s/9661


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 3:20 pm
From: walt tonne


On Apr 17, 4:25 pm, corella <cocka...@aussieisp.net.au> wrote:
> Despite enormous amounts of our money spent by
> greed-crazed politicians and media drones to
> convince us that valuable "strength" grows from
> diversity (i.e. cultural diversity and feral
> immigration), most people privately reject
> diversity. Credibility in immigration policy
> means: The few who should be here, get here; those
> who should be kept out, are kept out; and those
> who should not be here, must leave. For the system
> to be credible, some people actually have to be
> deported. Greed-crazed politicians and businessmen
> should stop irresponsibly urging people to have
> more children to "boost the economy" - the economy
> can't grow indefinitely in a real world of
> depleting resources. Fewer humans would make life
> more pleasant.
>
> A circular need to feed the economy with
> population growth represents a fatal flaw in our
> political system. The economic pie may expand, but
> the number of people who share it grows at an even
> greater rate, so the slices get smaller.
> Laissez-faire exploitation of this planet, mass
> immigration and population growth have to cease as
> well as social engineering experiments. Some
> wealthy Zionist Jews believe that they actually
> run this country. With their input into the plague
> immigration Ponzi scheme, they have good reason to
> think that way. Australia now belongs to those
> with most cash to buy politicians.
>
> Don't kid yourselves with fairy tales of large
> habitable spaces with plenty of accommodation for
> everyone's needs in a large, fertile, and
> prosperous country. That idea is not the awful
> reality of Australia. Behind multiculturalism's
> gay social mask, a mass immigration driven
> property debt-bubble cancer grows. Real estate
> leeches are criminals who won't allow democracy to
> ruin their rackets, and the political
> establishment cynically protects them. The faked
> and bogus "consensus" that high levels of
> immigration are universally beneficial, confirmed
> our suspicions that plague population policy is
> designed with no regard for its destructive
> impacts on the natural and social environments.

Why do Whites import cancer cells into their nations?

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 5:56 pm
From: Catawumpus


Billy <Wildbilly@withouta.net>:

> If you like weekends (8 hr./day & 40 hr./week), then thank a labor union.
> They paid for it in blood.

That was nearly a hundred years ago. By now those numbers
should be closer to zero.

-- Catawumpus


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 10:16 pm
From: Billy


In article <kimmerian-33BC94.20560517042011@news.octanews.com>,
Catawumpus <kimmerian@fastmail.fm> wrote:

> Billy <Wildbilly@withouta.net>:
>
> > If you like weekends (8 hr./day & 40 hr./week), then thank a labor union.
> > They paid for it in blood.
>
> That was nearly a hundred years ago. By now those numbers
> should be closer to zero.
>
> -- Catawumpus

In other fast breaking news . . .

<http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t787823/>
<http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/17/online-persona-management_n_837
153.html
>

U.S. Military Launches Spy Operation Using Fake Online Identities
Online Persona Management

The Huffington Post Amy Lee First Posted: 03/17/11 02:11 PM Updated:
03/17/11 02:11 PM

The U.S. Military has purchased software designed to create and control
false online personas in an attempt to use social media and other
websites to counter anti-U.S. messaging.

According to the contract between US Central Command (Centcom) and
California company Ntrepid, the software would let each user control 10
personas, each "replete with background, history, supporting details,
and cyber presences that are technically, culturally and geographically
consistent." The software would also be able to let personas "appear to
originate in nearly any part of the world" and interact through
"conventional online services and social media platforms," while using a
static IP address for each persona to maintain a consistent online
identity.
(cont.)
-

If you like weekends (8 hr./day & 40 hr./week), then thank a labor union.
They paid for it in blood.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haymarket_affair>


===
--
- Billy

Dept. of Defense budget: $663.8 billion
Dept. of Health and Human Services budget: $78.4 billion


Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the clouds of war, it is humanity hanging on a cross of iron.
- Dwight D. Eisenhower, 16 April 1953


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 10:45 pm
From: Catawumpus


[follow-ups set]

Billy <Wildbilly@withouta.net>:

> If you like weekends (8 hr./day & 40 hr./week), then thank a labor union.
> They paid for it in blood.

The 8-hour day and 40-hour week are close to a century old.
Not much progress in reducing them since then, so no thanks
due to unions or anybody else. ObBook: Studs Terkel, _Working_.

-- Catawumpus

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 8:26 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


They will, long after we are history, inherit the Earth, conquer all
the corners of the planet and fulfill God's command to multiply...

At first it seems like they are the instrument of God, but their sheer
ugliness suggests they are planted by the Devil to spoil the design of
God to make humans special.

Something to think about before you crush the next cockroach that
crosses your path.


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On Apr 17, 8:43 pm, Father Haskell <fatherhask...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Thus terminating what was an unbroken chain of cockroach
> life predating even the dinosaurs.

What, the cockroach survived the dinosaurs? You know what I think?

GOD IS A BIG COCKROACH!


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Apr 17 2011 10:37 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In <3eaa4e87-0e5e-4692-b13c-c7f3b8a01ccd@f11g2000vbx.googlegroups.com>,
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:

>They will, long after we are history, inherit the Earth, conquer all
>the corners of the planet and fulfill God's command to multiply...

In a world that God gave us, with laws of nature that Darwin explained
a few of.

>At first it seems like they are the instrument of God, but their sheer
>ugliness suggests they are planted by the Devil to spoil the design of
>God to make humans special.

It appears to me that nature produced several other creatures at least
as ugly, though less-considered-to-be vermin.

>Something to think about before you crush the next cockroach that
>crosses your path.

Cockroaches have been here 300 million years and survived many severe
planetary climate change emergencies including the one that made dinosaurs
extinct. They are said to be in good shape to still be here after even a
bad case of a nuclear war.
How do most supermarket-available spray insecticides kill tough urban
roaches after mere decades of slight evolution not even forming new
species? You have to smash them with the spray can!

Mice have a place in nature heavily to be food for the many creatures
that eat mice. I think roaches are a lot less cute and less intelligent
and more robot-like than mice. I doubt I injure my soul much by killing a
roach, as long as I don't go out of my way to torture it or deploy any
especially-torturing kinds of poisons or traps.

There is also the matter that stepping on roaches will not exterminate
them from this world if nuclear wars and the planetary cataclysms of the
past 300 million years can't.
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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