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TOPIC: No Swine Flu Sick Leave For Wal-Mart Slaves! No SURPRISE, Either!
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 10:12 am
From: "Dave C."

> >> Same here. My employer has what's called combined time off. I'm
> >> salaried, so this doesn't apply to me, but if someone calls in
> >> sick, they have to use two CTO days (basically vacation days)
> >> before they can use actual sick time. If you don't have any CTO,
> >> then you have to take those 2 days unpaid. They also track your
> >> sick days. Too many Mondays or Fridays and you get a couple
> >> points. Too many points in a 12-month period and it goes on your
> >> record.
> >>
> >> Marsha
> >
> > So...how do you tell the Flu that it's not convenient to get sick
> > on a Monday or Friday? -Dave
>
> When I wanted to go skiing on a "sick day" I always chose Tuesday or
> Wednesday. I still ended up losing over 700 hours of sick leave when
> I was laid off after 12 years. The people who took it whenever they
> earned it were way smarter :-(
>

Well it's a gamble. It didn't work out in your favor when you got laid
off. But let's look at this from the other side. I got majorly sick
last year. Like, I almost died. When I checked myself into the
hospital, the triage nurse (or whatever you call her) said she'd never
seen vital signs like I had (at the time) in someone who was still
breathing. (ouch!) I was out of work for well over a month. I had a
week of sick time I could use. After that, I luckily had short-term
disability coverage. Unfortunately, short-term disability coverage
didn't even give me 30% of my usual pay. I would have been in much
better shape if I had 700 hours of sick leave to draw on. I had
doctors' notes stating there was no way I was going back to work
anytime soon, so using that much sick time would not have been an
issue. I would have used about 250 hours of sick time, if I'd had it
available. We were basically living off of our savings for a while.

I understand your point where the people who took it whenever they
earned it were way smarter. But what if one of them had gotten sick,
like really sick? -Dave

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 11:17 am
From: The Real Bev

Dave C. wrote:

>> >> Same here. My employer has what's called combined time off. I'm
>> >> salaried, so this doesn't apply to me, but if someone calls in
>> >> sick, they have to use two CTO days (basically vacation days)
>> >> before they can use actual sick time. If you don't have any CTO,
>> >> then you have to take those 2 days unpaid. They also track your
>> >> sick days. Too many Mondays or Fridays and you get a couple
>> >> points. Too many points in a 12-month period and it goes on your
>> >> record.
>> >>
>> >> Marsha
>> >
>> > So...how do you tell the Flu that it's not convenient to get sick
>> > on a Monday or Friday? -Dave
>>
>> When I wanted to go skiing on a "sick day" I always chose Tuesday or
>> Wednesday. I still ended up losing over 700 hours of sick leave when
>> I was laid off after 12 years. The people who took it whenever they
>> earned it were way smarter :-(
>
> Well it's a gamble. It didn't work out in your favor when you got laid
> off. But let's look at this from the other side. I got majorly sick
> last year. Like, I almost died. When I checked myself into the
> hospital, the triage nurse (or whatever you call her) said she'd never
> seen vital signs like I had (at the time) in someone who was still
> breathing. (ouch!) I was out of work for well over a month. I had a
> week of sick time I could use. After that, I luckily had short-term
> disability coverage. Unfortunately, short-term disability coverage
> didn't even give me 30% of my usual pay. I would have been in much
> better shape if I had 700 hours of sick leave to draw on. I had
> doctors' notes stating there was no way I was going back to work
> anytime soon, so using that much sick time would not have been an
> issue. I would have used about 250 hours of sick time, if I'd had it
> available. We were basically living off of our savings for a while.
>
> I understand your point where the people who took it whenever they
> earned it were way smarter. But what if one of them had gotten sick,
> like really sick? -Dave

Short- or long-term disability. I finally signed up for LTD during the first
open-enrollment period without realizing that it was a total waste because by
that time I had so much sick leave accumulated :-(

--
Cheers, Bev
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bender: And so I ask you this one question: Have you ever tried simply
turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 12:13 pm
From: Bert Hyman

In news:hdkbd3$bkp$1@news.eternal-september.org The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

> I finally signed up for LTD during the first open-enrollment period
> without realizing that it was a total waste because by that time I had
> so much sick leave accumulated :-(
>

You have enough sick leave to cover you for the remainder of your life
(or age 65, depending on your policy) if you became sick or injured
today and could no longer work?

Now, that's interesting.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert@iphouse.com

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 1:42 pm
From: The Real Bev

Bert Hyman wrote:

> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I finally signed up for LTD during the first open-enrollment period
>> without realizing that it was a total waste because by that time I had
>> so much sick leave accumulated :-(
>>
> You have enough sick leave to cover you for the remainder of your life
> (or age 65, depending on your policy) if you became sick or injured
> today and could no longer work?

That was in 1990. I've been retired since 1995. SS+Medicare now. Unless I
break some useful body parts I'm good to go :-)

--
Cheers, Bev
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 12:10 am
From: "Bob F"

KenK wrote:
> I've read there is a tone you can add to the beginning of your
> answering machine message that indicates an unavailable connection to
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> add it to the message? Anyone know?
>

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== 1 of 1 ==
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From: SoCalMike

Ohioguy wrote:
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Les Cargill wrote:
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 3:57 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

SoCalMike wrote
> Les Cargill wrote

>> Bollocks. That's the fairy story. Do the math yourself - if and
>> only if you can *actually afford it* - the TCO of ownership is
>> strictly less than renting - is it more frugal. What people do
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>> the marginal rate is still far less than 100%, no matter what.

>> This does not mean there are no strategies where home ownership is more frugal - just that one must prepare for it
>> properly.

>> Right now, the way prices are plummeting - it's a good
>> time to transition to owning, assuming you have stable income.
>> But what most people forget is all the peripheral cost of ownership.

> all depends. if you can get a fixed rate mortgage for less than what
> your rent payments are, and are willing to fix most things on your own
> its probably worth it.

And is even if you dont have that cheaper than renting too,
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== 1 of 3 ==
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From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"

In article
<7m4dm0F3e4kkcU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Malcom Mal Reynolds wrote
> >>> gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote
> >>>> rocket scientist <georgespamk@toast.net> wrote
>
> >>>>> I've noticed that newsprint that has been wetted ,
> >>>>> then dried, burns much better. Why is that?
>
> >>>>> I've asked Cecil and haven't heard yet.
>
> >>>> I don't know about the other response regarding it being drier
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> >> Its just plain silly.
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> >>>> but I suspect part of it has to do with the structure of
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> >>>> small, fine slivers sticking up instead of a smooth, dense surface.
>
> >>> That may be true,
>
> >> It is.
>
> > Really?
>
> Yep, try it yourself.

Try what?

>
> >>> but you'd think that would happen in the paper making process
>
> >> Nope, that deliberately makes the surface smoother than otherwise.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 2:02 pm
From: Rick Merrill

rocket scientist wrote:
> I've noticed that newsprint that has been wetted , then dried, burns
> much better. Why is that?
> I've asked Cecil and haven't heard yet.

Would you believe it burns FASTER, not necessarily better?
As others have said it is because the surface becomes rougher.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 3:58 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Malcom Mal Reynolds wrote
>>>>> gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote
>>>>>> rocket scientist <georgespamk@toast.net> wrote

>>>>>>> I've noticed that newsprint that has been wetted ,
>>>>>>> then dried, burns much better. Why is that?

>>>>>>> I've asked Cecil and haven't heard yet.

>>>>>> I don't know about the other response regarding it being drier afterwards,

>>>> Its just plain silly.

>>>>>> but I suspect part of it has to do with the structure of
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>>>>>> That would increase the surface area, and produce lots of
>>>>>> small, fine slivers sticking up instead of a smooth, dense surface.

>>>>> That may be true,

>>>> It is.

>>> Really?

>> Yep, try it yourself.

> Try what?

Jumping in front of a moving bus, stupid.

>>>>> but you'd think that would happen in the paper making process

>>>> Nope, that deliberately makes the surface smoother than otherwise.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 13 2009 3:15 pm
From: "sr"

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>
> I use to spend 15. on groceries every 2 weeks, in'62 See how much further
> the dollar went in 62, or whatever year, get out your crying towel.
>

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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 9:28 am
From: "Rod Speed"

rocket scientist wrote:

> I've noticed that newsprint that has been wetted ,
> then dried, burns much better. Why is that?

That sees the surface much rougher at a microscopic level than before you do that.

> I've asked Cecil and haven't heard yet.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 9:29 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Dave C. wrote
> rocket scientist <georgespamk@toast.net> wrote

>> I've noticed that newsprint that has been wetted , then dried, burns
>> much better. Why is that?

>> I've asked Cecil and haven't heard yet.

> Adding moisture (water) and then removing moisture leaves
> the newsprint in a dryer state than it was before it got wet.

Nope.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 4:05 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <georgespamk-DA73BD.07175312112009@news.isp.giganews.com>,
rocket scientist <georgespamk@toast.net> wrote:
>I've noticed that newsprint that has been wetted , then dried, burns
>much better. Why is that?
>I've asked Cecil and haven't heard yet.

I don't know about the other response regarding it being drier afterwards,
but I suspect part of it has to do with the structure of the paper being
disrupted from swelling and then shrinking. That would increase the
surface area, and produce lots of small, fine slivers sticking up instead
of a smooth, dense surface.

Gary

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== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 4:19 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"

In article
<19ydnTUnQpgyP2HXnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@posted
.hiwaay2>,
gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)
wrote:

> In article <georgespamk-DA73BD.07175312112009@news.isp.giganews.com>,
> rocket scientist <georgespamk@toast.net> wrote:
> >I've noticed that newsprint that has been wetted , then dried, burns
> >much better. Why is that?
> >I've asked Cecil and haven't heard yet.
>
> I don't know about the other response regarding it being drier afterwards,
> but I suspect part of it has to do with the structure of the paper being
> disrupted from swelling and then shrinking. That would increase the
> surface area, and produce lots of small, fine slivers sticking up instead
> of a smooth, dense surface.
>
>
> Gary

That may be true, but you'd think that
would happen in the paper making process

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 6:12 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote
>> rocket scientist <georgespamk@toast.net> wrote

>>> I've noticed that newsprint that has been wetted , then dried, burns
>>> much better. Why is that?

>>> I've asked Cecil and haven't heard yet.

>> I don't know about the other response regarding it being drier afterwards,

Its just plain silly.

>> but I suspect part of it has to do with the structure of
>> the paper being disrupted from swelling and then shrinking.
>> That would increase the surface area, and produce lots of
>> small, fine slivers sticking up instead of a smooth, dense surface.

> That may be true,

It is.

> but you'd think that would happen in the paper making process

Nope, that deliberately makes the surface smoother than otherwise.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 9:58 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"

In article
<7m3tkoF3g3hk2U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote
> >> rocket scientist <georgespamk@toast.net> wrote
>
> >>> I've noticed that newsprint that has been wetted , then dried, burns
> >>> much better. Why is that?
>
> >>> I've asked Cecil and haven't heard yet.
>
> >> I don't know about the other response regarding it being drier afterwards,
>
> Its just plain silly.
>
> >> but I suspect part of it has to do with the structure of
> >> the paper being disrupted from swelling and then shrinking.
> >> That would increase the surface area, and produce lots of
> >> small, fine slivers sticking up instead of a smooth, dense surface.
>
> > That may be true,
>
> It is.

Really?

>
> > but you'd think that would happen in the paper making process
>
> Nope, that deliberately makes the surface smoother than otherwise.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 10:46 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Malcom Mal Reynolds wrote
>>> gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote
>>>> rocket scientist <georgespamk@toast.net> wrote

>>>>> I've noticed that newsprint that has been wetted ,
>>>>> then dried, burns much better. Why is that?

>>>>> I've asked Cecil and haven't heard yet.

>>>> I don't know about the other response regarding it being drier afterwards,

>> Its just plain silly.

>>>> but I suspect part of it has to do with the structure of
>>>> the paper being disrupted from swelling and then shrinking.
>>>> That would increase the surface area, and produce lots of
>>>> small, fine slivers sticking up instead of a smooth, dense surface.

>>> That may be true,

>> It is.

> Really?

Yep, try it yourself.

>>> but you'd think that would happen in the paper making process

>> Nope, that deliberately makes the surface smoother than otherwise.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 10:14 am
From: "John Weiss"

KenK wrote:

> I have a Braun series 1 190 electric razor and the foil screen has
> worn a hole on one side. Sure didn't last very long. From what I can
> find on- line the foil and cutter costs almost as much as a new razor
> in Walmart. Hard to pin down the right part. They don't seem to
> identify them the same as the razor markings.
>
> Anyhow, if I'm going to replace it might as well try to find a better
> one. The Braun is ok but far from outstanding. Not a very good shave.
> Previously I had a rotary Norelco. Unlike Norelcos I had when I was
> younger it was very bad. Very poor shave.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for a good razor they bought recently?
> Maybe I should just grow a beard but I'm concerned about existing
> photo ids like driver's license. I can easily visualize an arrogant
> cop giving me a hard time. If I use a blade I bleed annoyingly.

I've used a Panasonic "linear motor" shaver for many years. Works
well, lasts 2 weeks on a charge, blades last a long time (2+ years).

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 10:15 am
From: rocket scientist

Iraqi Cabinet approves Exxon Mobil-Shell oil deal

(AP) ­ 2 days ago

BAGHDAD ‹ Iraq's prime minister says his Cabinet has approved a deal
with a consortium led by U.S.-based Exxon Mobil to develop a prized oil
field in the country's south.

The Exxon Mobil-Royal Dutch Shell group will develop the 8.6 billion
West Qurna 1 field and received $1.90 per barrel produced. It plans to
boost production from 280,000 barrels per day to 2.325 million barrels
within seven years.

The Oil Ministry is expected to finalize the 20-year service deal soon.

Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki also said Tuesday that his government is
still discussing a second deal with a consortium led by Italy's Eni to
develop the 4.1 billion barrel Zubair field.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 11:43 am
From: BigDog1

On Nov 12, 1:21 am, "fries...@zoocrewphoto.com"
<fries...@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote:
> On Nov 9, 9:23 am, "Dave C." <no...@nohow.never> wrote:
>
> > > In addition, Wal-Mart begins reprimanding workers after four absences
> > > of up to three days each over the course of six months. Six absences
> > > can lead to termination.
>
> According to this policy, an employee would have to be sick 4 times in
> 6 months to get reprimanded and 6 times to get fired. Honestly, how
> many business are happy to have somebody who calls in sick at least
> once a month?
>
> I work in a grocery store, and whilw we can earn about a week per year
> (up to a max of 3 weeks) of sick leave, we do not get sick pay from
> day one unless we have a full bank of unused sick leave. Otherwise, it
> starts on day 3. This is to prevent cases of sun flu and last minute
> forgot to request the day off flu. It is hard to cover shifts last
> minute, and unlike an office, our work doesn't wait.
>
> Also, we are required to get a doctors note if we miss 3 or more days,
> or we cannot return to work.
>
> It seems to me that Walmart's system is nicer than ours, and ours is
> pretty reasonable. Most people do not sick more than a few days a
> year. Anybody who has been her a year or more will easily have enough
> sick leave to cover a week or more absence. Sure, we lose the first 2
> days if we have been sick in the last 6 months or so. But that is
> reasonable. The alternative is people calling in sick, pretending to
> have the flu, just so that they can go to a party or have a free day
> off.

My wife works at a bank with a nearly identical sick leave policy.
Additionally if someone, even with a full sick leave bank, calls in
sick the work day before or after a paid holiday, they lose that
holiday pay.

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 4:20 pm
From: Marsha

BigDog1 wrote:
> On Nov 12, 1:21 am, "fries...@zoocrewphoto.com"
> <fries...@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote:
>> On Nov 9, 9:23 am, "Dave C." <no...@nohow.never> wrote:
>>
>>>> In addition, Wal-Mart begins reprimanding workers after four absences
>>>> of up to three days each over the course of six months. Six absences
>>>> can lead to termination.
>> According to this policy, an employee would have to be sick 4 times in
>> 6 months to get reprimanded and 6 times to get fired. Honestly, how
>> many business are happy to have somebody who calls in sick at least
>> once a month?
>>
>> I work in a grocery store, and whilw we can earn about a week per year
>> (up to a max of 3 weeks) of sick leave, we do not get sick pay from
>> day one unless we have a full bank of unused sick leave. Otherwise, it
>> starts on day 3. This is to prevent cases of sun flu and last minute
>> forgot to request the day off flu. It is hard to cover shifts last
>> minute, and unlike an office, our work doesn't wait.
>>
>> Also, we are required to get a doctors note if we miss 3 or more days,
>> or we cannot return to work.
>>
>> It seems to me that Walmart's system is nicer than ours, and ours is
>> pretty reasonable. Most people do not sick more than a few days a
>> year. Anybody who has been her a year or more will easily have enough
>> sick leave to cover a week or more absence. Sure, we lose the first 2
>> days if we have been sick in the last 6 months or so. But that is
>> reasonable. The alternative is people calling in sick, pretending to
>> have the flu, just so that they can go to a party or have a free day
>> off.
>
> My wife works at a bank with a nearly identical sick leave policy.
> Additionally if someone, even with a full sick leave bank, calls in
> sick the work day before or after a paid holiday, they lose that
> holiday pay.

Same here. My employer has what's called combined time off. I'm
salaried, so this doesn't apply to me, but if someone calls in sick,
they have to use two CTO days (basically vacation days) before they can
use actual sick time. If you don't have any CTO, then you have to take
those 2 days unpaid. They also track your sick days. Too many Mondays
or Fridays and you get a couple points. Too many points in a 12-month
period and it goes on your record.

Marsha

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 4:31 pm
From: krw

On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 00:21:19 -0800 (PST), "friesian@zoocrewphoto.com"
<friesian@zoocrewphoto.com> wrote:

>On Nov 9, 9:23 am, "Dave C." <no...@nohow.never> wrote:
>> > In addition, Wal-Mart begins reprimanding workers after four absences
>> > of up to three days each over the course of six months. Six absences
>> > can lead to termination.
>>
>
>
>According to this policy, an employee would have to be sick 4 times in
>6 months to get reprimanded and 6 times to get fired. Honestly, how
>many business are happy to have somebody who calls in sick at least
>once a month?
>
>I work in a grocery store, and whilw we can earn about a week per year
>(up to a max of 3 weeks) of sick leave, we do not get sick pay from
>day one unless we have a full bank of unused sick leave. Otherwise, it
>starts on day 3. This is to prevent cases of sun flu and last minute
>forgot to request the day off flu. It is hard to cover shifts last
>minute, and unlike an office, our work doesn't wait.
>
>Also, we are required to get a doctors note if we miss 3 or more days,
>or we cannot return to work.
>
>It seems to me that Walmart's system is nicer than ours, and ours is
>pretty reasonable. Most people do not sick more than a few days a
>year. Anybody who has been her a year or more will easily have enough
>sick leave to cover a week or more absence. Sure, we lose the first 2
>days if we have been sick in the last 6 months or so. But that is
>reasonable. The alternative is people calling in sick, pretending to
>have the flu, just so that they can go to a party or have a free day
>off.

Where I used to work there was no such thing as a "sick day". If
you're sick, stay home. We got paid anyway. If one was gone more
than, IIRC, five days one could be required to bring in a doctor's
note showing that you were physically able to return to work. The
medical department may get involved at that point too. I was never
"sick" more than three days (sprained ankle) so never had to bring a
note. Short-term "sick leave" was up to 12 months, with a decision at
that point whether to continue it or go onto long-term disability.
Everyone was treated like an adult and for the most part no one abused
the system. Obviously that won't work everywhere.

Where I work now we get three weeks "leave" a year (and can save up to
two). Use it as you see fit. Not quite as nice.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 9:03 am
From: "Dave C."

> Same here. My employer has what's called combined time off. I'm
> salaried, so this doesn't apply to me, but if someone calls in sick,
> they have to use two CTO days (basically vacation days) before they
> can use actual sick time. If you don't have any CTO, then you have
> to take those 2 days unpaid. They also track your sick days. Too
> many Mondays or Fridays and you get a couple points. Too many points
> in a 12-month period and it goes on your record.
>
> Marsha

So...how do you tell the Flu that it's not convenient to get sick on a
Monday or Friday? -Dave

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 10:35 pm
From: The Real Bev

Dave C. wrote:

>> Same here. My employer has what's called combined time off. I'm
>> salaried, so this doesn't apply to me, but if someone calls in sick,
>> they have to use two CTO days (basically vacation days) before they
>> can use actual sick time. If you don't have any CTO, then you have
>> to take those 2 days unpaid. They also track your sick days. Too
>> many Mondays or Fridays and you get a couple points. Too many points
>> in a 12-month period and it goes on your record.
>>
>> Marsha
>
> So...how do you tell the Flu that it's not convenient to get sick on a
> Monday or Friday? -Dave

When I wanted to go skiing on a "sick day" I always chose Tuesday or Wednesday.
I still ended up losing over 700 hours of sick leave when I was laid off
after 12 years. The people who took it whenever they earned it were way
smarter :-(

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== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 10:38 pm
From: "friesian@zoocrewphoto.com"

On Nov 12, 9:03 am, "Dave C." <no...@nohow.never> wrote:
> > Same here.  My employer has what's called combined time off.  I'm
> > salaried, so this doesn't apply to me, but if someone calls in sick,
> > they have to use two CTO days (basically vacation days) before they
> > can use actual sick time.  If you don't have any CTO, then you have
> > to take those 2 days unpaid.  They also track your sick days.  Too
> > many Mondays or Fridays and you get a couple points.  Too many points
> > in a 12-month period and it goes on your record.
>
> > Marsha
>
> So...how do you tell the Flu that it's not convenient to get sick on a
> Monday or Friday?  -Dave

It the idea of a pattern. If you get sick 6 times in one year, and
they are all on Fridays, chances are you weren't really sick. Once
isn't a big deal. For example, I get sick about twice a year. So,
nobody doubts me. They know I must be sick. But we've had people who
are sick 2-4 times per MONTH. Something isn't right. And each time
they are sick, we have to call somebody in for overtime or go without.
That means that everybody else has to work harder without getting
extra pay. Nobody wants to have a coworker who can't show up on a
regular basis.

People who abuse the system have a much different pattern than those
who rarely need the system.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 10:12 am
From: "Dave C."

> >> Same here. My employer has what's called combined time off. I'm
> >> salaried, so this doesn't apply to me, but if someone calls in
> >> sick, they have to use two CTO days (basically vacation days)
> >> before they can use actual sick time. If you don't have any CTO,
> >> then you have to take those 2 days unpaid. They also track your
> >> sick days. Too many Mondays or Fridays and you get a couple
> >> points. Too many points in a 12-month period and it goes on your
> >> record.
> >>
> >> Marsha
> >
> > So...how do you tell the Flu that it's not convenient to get sick
> > on a Monday or Friday? -Dave
>
> When I wanted to go skiing on a "sick day" I always chose Tuesday or
> Wednesday. I still ended up losing over 700 hours of sick leave when
> I was laid off after 12 years. The people who took it whenever they
> earned it were way smarter :-(
>

Well it's a gamble. It didn't work out in your favor when you got laid
off. But let's look at this from the other side. I got majorly sick
last year. Like, I almost died. When I checked myself into the
hospital, the triage nurse (or whatever you call her) said she'd never
seen vital signs like I had (at the time) in someone who was still
breathing. (ouch!) I was out of work for well over a month. I had a
week of sick time I could use. After that, I luckily had short-term
disability coverage. Unfortunately, short-term disability coverage
didn't even give me 30% of my usual pay. I would have been in much
better shape if I had 700 hours of sick leave to draw on. I had
doctors' notes stating there was no way I was going back to work
anytime soon, so using that much sick time would not have been an
issue. I would have used about 250 hours of sick time, if I'd had it
available. We were basically living off of our savings for a while.

I understand your point where the people who took it whenever they
earned it were way smarter. But what if one of them had gotten sick,
like really sick? -Dave

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 12:36 pm
From: zeez

http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/antivirals/mixing_tamiflu_qa.htm

Questions & Answers
Opening and Mixing Tamiflu® Capsules with Liquids if Child Cannot
Swallow Capsules

October 28, 2009 2:00 PM ET
Is there a shortage of oral suspension (liquid) Tamiflu®?
The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and the maker of Tamiflu®
(Roche Adobe PDF fileExternal Web Site Icon) have said that available
supplies of liquid Tamiflu® for children are limited.
What is being done about this?
A pharmacist can make a Tamiflu® suspension (liquid) using available
Tamiflu® adult capsules, which are in not in short supply. CDC is
alerting pharmacists about this option and providing instructions on
how to prepare a suspension using adult capsules. Some pharmacies,
including some chains, can do this already, others are not yet
prepared. Children's doses of Tamiflu® are also available in capsules.
What can I do if my child cannot swallow capsules?
If your doctor prescribes Tamiflu® capsules for your child and your
child cannot swallow capsules, the prescribed capsules may be opened
and mixed with a sweet thick liquid and given that way.
What liquids can I use?
A thick and sweet liquid, such as regular or sugar-free chocolate
syrup, that masks the flavor of the medicine can be mixed with the
contents of the Tamiflu® capsule. Sugar-free sweet liquids are
available. The child should consume the liquid mixture entirely.
If my child can't swallow capsules, how do I open Tamiflu capsules and
mix the medicine?
Pour a small amount (about a spoonful) of sweet, thick liquid into a
cup or bowl. Carefully open the Tamiflu® capsule prescribed by your
doctor and pour out all of the powder inside the capsule and mix it
into the liquid. The exact amount of liquid used doesn't matter, as
long as the powder inside the capsule is mixed in well. (All of the
medicine may not dissolve. Just be sure it is all well mixed.) Use
only the prescribed dose.
What will I need to do this?
You will need

* The prescribed Tamiflu® capsule
* A small bowl or cup and a spoon
* 1-2 Teaspoons of sweetened liquid

How do I mix the ingredients?

* Pour a small amount (about a spoonful) of a sweet thick liquid
into a cup or bowl.
* Holding one capsule over a small bowl, carefully pull the
capsule open and pour the complete contents of the capsule into the
bowl.
* Stir the mixture and give the entire dose to the child with a
spoon.

Should my child take all of the mixture?
Yes, make sure your child takes all of the medicine mixture.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 1:05 pm
From: "Love Europe, Hate the EU"

How do racists, anti-Semites and all-purpose hate-mongers view the
possibility of America's first black president? Not necessarily the
way you think they would.

By David Peisner

If recent polls are to be believed, white voters favor John McCain
over Barack Obama by nearly ten percentage points, but the McCain and
Obama camps probably haven't factored in the following fact: In an
informal Esquire survey, three out of four white supremacists prefer
Obama, while McCain is the clear favorite among black nationalists.
This is just one of many surprising views that emerged after we talked
to extremists about this historic electoral showdown between a 46-year-
old black man and a 71-year-old white man.

Tom Metzger

Who: Director, White Aryan Resistance
Likes: White people, karaoke, environmentalists
Dislikes: Race-mixing, Jews, the federal government, capitalism
Career Highlights: Was Grand Dragon of Ku Klux Klan in the 70s; won
the Democratic primary during his bid for Congress in 1980; appeared
on the episode of Geraldo Rivera's show in 1988 when Rivera's nose was
broken in a brawl.

"The corporations are running things now, so it's not going to make
much difference who's in there, but McCain would be much worse. He's a
warmonger. He's a scary, scary person -- more dangerous than Bush.
Obama, according to his book, Dreams Of My Father, is a racist and I
have no problem with black racists. I've got the quote right here: 'I
found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity
against my mother's white race.' The problem with Obama is he's being
dishonest about his racial views. I'd respect him if he'd just come
out and say, 'Yeah, I'm a black racist.' I don't hate black people. I
just think it's in the best interest of the races to be separated as
much as possible. See, I'm a leftist. I'm not a rightist. I hate the
transnational corporations far more than any black person."

Erich Gliebe

Who: Chairman, National Alliance
Likes: Third Reich, the movie Rocky
Dislikes: integration, Jewish-controlled media
Career Highlights: Turning white-power record label, Resistance
Records, into a million-dollar-a-year business juggernaut; an 8-0
record as a professional boxer under the nickname, "The Aryan
Barbarian."

"Obama might be a better candidate for our cause because he's racially
conscious. One of our big things in the National Alliance is to raise
the racial consciousness of our people. Young whites in universities,
they've been stripped of any kind of racial identity. Obama may be a
racist in a positive sense for his people -- that will awaken a lot of
the whites, knock some sense into them. They'll see that non-white
Americans are allowed to be proud of who they are, to be racially
conscious, to talk about their people or their community without being
attacked as being racist. Let's face it, white people aren't going to
fight for their causes, for their kind with a white president. I don't
think McCain even acknowledges that a white race exists. He's all
about granting amnesty to illegal aliens. The fact he wants to keep us
in wars in the Middle East for 100 years, that's not a good thing. I
give Obama credit, he seems to have stuck to his guns as far as
pulling the troops out of Iraq. He's a very intelligent man, an
excellent speaker and has charisma. John McCain offers none of that.
Perhaps the best thing for the white race is to have a black
president. My only problem with Obama is perhaps he's not black
enough."

Ron Edwards

Who: Imperial Wizard, Imperial Klans of America
Likes: Guns, bed sheets, burning crosses
Dislikes: Black people, homosexuals, immigrants
Career Highlights: Sued in 2007 by the Southern Poverty Law Center for
inciting the brutal beating of a Latino teenager; building the IKA
into one of the nation's largest Klan groups by allowing non-
Christians to join.

"Obama, I think he's a piece of shit. I don't care that his mother was
white. I don't think he has enough brains to do anything good. All
he's living off of is the color of his skin to get elected. I don't
think America wants a black president. Most of them are too afraid to
say that they believe the way I believe. They sit around their dinner
table and talk the way I do, but when they get out in public, they
have two faces and show the other face. When people are voting in the
booth privately, they'll vote Republican even if they're a Democrat.
If he wins, I'll laugh. I don't like McCain, but he's the only one I
can vote for. He's against a lot of the things that I'm for. I'm
afraid that he's going to mess with gun laws. But I'm going Republican
and I talked to my guys and most of them are voting for McCain too."

Rocky Suhayda

Who: Chairman, American Nazi Party
Likes: Hitler, white people
Dislikes: Jews, immigrants, multinational corporations
Career highlights: Being widely quoted bemoaning in the fact that so
few Aryan-Americans had the cojones of the 9/11 hijackers: "If we were
one-tenth as serious, we might start getting somewhere."

"White people are faced with either a negro or a total nutter who
happens to have a pale face. Personally I'd prefer the negro. National
Socialists are not mindless haters. Here, I see a white man, who is
almost dead, who declares he wants to fight endless wars around the
globe to make the world safe for Judeo-capitalist exploitation, who
supports the invasion of America by illegals -- basically a
continuation of the last eight years of Emperor Bush. Then, we have a
black man, who loves his own kind, belongs to a Black-Nationalist
religion, is married to a black women -- when usually negroes who have
'made it' immediately land a white spouse as a kind of prize -- that's
the kind of negro that I can respect. Any time that a prominent person
embraces their racial heritage in a positive manner, it's good for all
racially minded folks. Besides, America cares nothing for the
interests of the white American worker, while having a love affair
with just about every non-white on planet Earth. It'd be poetic
justice to have a non-white as titular chief over this decaying modern
Sodom and Gomorrah."

http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feature/racists-support-obama-061308

www.davidduke.com
www.resist.com
www.stormfront.org
www.vnnforum.com
www.natvan.com
www.thephora.net

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 1:15 pm
From: rocket scientist

Marooned on Sea of Iraqi Oil, but Unable to Tap Its Wealth

By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS
Published: November 7, 2009

BASRA, Iraq ‹ The orange glow of the giant natural gas flares in the oil
fields around Basra represents this bustling city¹s wealth of natural
resources. But for the impoverished people who live near them, the
flames only serve as a reminder of their inability to share in the
riches that lie beneath their feet.

Joao Silva for The New York Times

A lack of sanitation services in Basra breeds flies, like those swarming
a sleeping baby.

Poverty is rampant in Basra, Iraq, despite its oil fields. Few area
residents can find jobs at the nearby refinery.

Vendors in Basra cannot afford vehicles.
The New York Times

Up to 80 percent of Iraq's oil comes from the Basra area.

The area around Basra, Iraq¹s second largest city and main port,
accounts for as much as 80 percent of the country¹s oil production. It
has emerged as Iraq¹s best hope for stability and prosperity as it
prepares to sell off its top undeveloped oil fields to foreign companies
at an auction next month. Of the five largest fields that will be bid
on, four are in or around Basra.

for the rest of this story;
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/08/world/middleeast/08basra.html?_r=1

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 8:43 pm
From: The Real Bev

Susan Bugher wrote:

> KenK wrote:
>
>> I've read there is a tone you can add to the beginning of your answering
>> machine message that indicates an unavailable connection to the
>> telemarketing dialing computers. How does one get this tone and add it to
>> the message? Anyone know?
>
> See:
> http://www.davehitt.com/jan02/tmmmda.html
> <q>
> Disconnected numbers always reply with a SIT tone, a bo-do-weep series
> of notes, followed by a recording explaining the number is not available.
>
> * Get your answering machine and set it in front of your PC speakers.
> * Press whatever button starts recording your outgoing message.
> * Click here
> * Pause about a second, and then finish recording your outgoing
> message.
>
> That's it. Telemarketing machines that hear those tones will stop
> calling, and within a couple of weeks you should get far fewer calls.

I tried this before they started the no-call list. No joy. Mostly I get calls
now from home-improvement people, but some idiot from The Four Corners (I
assume the Indian reservation) calls at least once a week. I've yelled at the
stupid cows, but the calls keep coming. Last time I just laid the phone down
until they hung up. That was two weeks ago. Maybe I'm on to something.

> (Note: if you right click on the above link, you can save the .wav file
> to your hard drive and play it from there. That will give you more
> control over the timing.)
> </q>
>
> or. . .
>
> If you have caller ID this program might work for you (I haven't tried it)
> Program: Telemarketing Blocker
> Company: KenGolf Group
> Ware: (Freeware)
> http://www.kengolf.com/en/caller-id-software.htm

--
Cheers, Bev
================================================
The beatings will continue until morale improves

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 12 2009 10:21 pm
From: Naeem

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