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Wednesday, December 1, 2010

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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 4:28 am
From: Opus

On Nov 30, 8:02 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>snip<
> >>>> My 400 HP sport/muscle car isn't envious of a folding bicycle.
>
> >>> Well, some day I invite to a Triathlon where one of the events is to
> >>> take the vehicle in the subway.
>
> >> No subways where I live, and even there were, I don't care for public
> >> transportation. I prefer not being at the mercy of bus/subway schedule.
>
> > Good, and we're spending a trillion dollars to make sure that the oil
> > necessary for shitheads like you remains available.
>
> Shitheads like me? Care to elaborate or is your argument simply limited
> to name calling?

People that drive vehicles with a decimal order of magnitude more
power than they need to move their butts with fossil fuels, because
they haven't learned to use public transportation and refuse to ride a
bicycle to move their butts using their butts. Is that elaborate
enough for you?

And just to be precise, the war in Iraq cost a billion dollars a DAY
for 6 years, do the math. That doesn't even begin to tackle the cost
of the war in Afghanistan, and both of those wars were "off-budget"
items during the Bush administration, roughly $3 trillion added to the
deficit that wasn't even counted until 2008.

== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 5:43 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Opus" <opusthepoet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:edf62053-d78a-430c-9272-ff6262805db1@j19g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 30, 8:02 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
[...]
> Shitheads like me? Care to elaborate or is your argument simply limited
> to name calling?

>> People that drive vehicles with a decimal order of magnitude more
power than they need to move their butts with fossil fuels, because
they haven't learned to use public transportation and refuse to ride a
bicycle to move their butts using their butts. Is that elaborate
enough for you?

Agree!

>> And just to be precise, the war in Iraq cost a billion dollars a DAY
for 6 years, do the math. That doesn't even begin to tackle the cost
of the war in Afghanistan, and both of those wars were "off-budget"
items during the Bush administration, roughly $3 trillion added to the
deficit that wasn't even counted until 2008.

Those wars cost a pittance. What a bargain! I believe we should always
employ our military somewhere in the world since ass always needs to be
kicked. Right now it is Muslim ass that needs to be kicked but that could
change in the near future. Who knows, we may soon have to kick North Korean
ass and maybe even Chinese ass. We should already have leveled Iran with
nuclear weapons, but we presently have a wimp in the White House who does
not know his ass from a hole in the ground.

The main thing is to keep our ass kicking ability up to par. We do not want
our military sitting in barracks at home, getting drunk and raising hell
with civilians. Nay, it is far better that they be gainfully employed abroad
slaughtering our enemies.

But if you want peace and quiet, why not move to Costa Rica. I prefer the
American Empire myself.

Thus spake Zarathustra.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 6:41 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

(I do a collage trying to fix Ed's clumsiness. The stupid stuff is
his)

On Dec 1, 7:28 am, Opus <opusthep...@gmail.com> wrote:

> And just to be precise, the war in Iraq cost a billion dollars a DAY
> for 6 years, do the math. That doesn't even begin to tackle the cost
> of the war in Afghanistan, and both of those wars were "off-budget"
> items during the Bush administration, roughly $3 trillion added to the
> deficit that wasn't even counted until 2008.

On Dec 1, 8:43 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:

> Those wars cost a pittance. What a bargain! I believe we should always
> employ our military somewhere in the world since ass always needs to be
> kicked. Right now it is Muslim ass that needs to be kicked but that could
> change in the near future. Who knows, we may soon have to kick North Korean
> ass and maybe even Chinese ass. We should already have leveled Iran with
> nuclear weapons, but we presently have a wimp in the White House who does
> not know his ass from a hole in the ground.
>
> The main thing is to keep our ass kicking ability up to par. We do not want
> our military sitting in barracks at home, getting drunk and raising hell
> with civilians. Nay, it is far better that they be gainfully employed abroad
> slaughtering our enemies.
>
> But if you want peace and quiet, why not move to Costa Rica. I prefer the
> American Empire myself.

I think you are clown, but an evil clown...

http://www.scaryforkids.com/pics/evil-clown-costume.jpg

The sooner America applies your philosophy, the sooner everything will
be over. No long agonizing over climate change, just cataclysmic event
leading to the extinction of the species, and thus the New Kingdom
will take over.

This kingdom will be populated by rats and roaches.

== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 8:07 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dbac0c7d-001c-47e6-98db-5c78ae0fede5@z20g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
(I do a collage trying to fix Ed's clumsiness. The stupid stuff is
his)
[...]
On Dec 1, 8:43 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:

> Those wars cost a pittance. What a bargain! I believe we should always
> employ our military somewhere in the world since ass always needs to be
> kicked. Right now it is Muslim ass that needs to be kicked but that could
> change in the near future. Who knows, we may soon have to kick North
> Korean
> ass and maybe even Chinese ass. We should already have leveled Iran with
> nuclear weapons, but we presently have a wimp in the White House who does
> not know his ass from a hole in the ground.
>
> The main thing is to keep our ass kicking ability up to par. We do not
> want
> our military sitting in barracks at home, getting drunk and raising hell
> with civilians. Nay, it is far better that they be gainfully employed
> abroad
> slaughtering our enemies.
>
> But if you want peace and quiet, why not move to Costa Rica. I prefer the
> American Empire myself.

>> I think you are clown, but an evil clown...

>> http://www.scaryforkids.com/pics/evil-clown-costume.jpg

>> The sooner America applies your philosophy, the sooner everything will
be over. No long agonizing over climate change, just cataclysmic event
leading to the extinction of the species, and thus the New Kingdom
will take over.

>> This kingdom will be populated by rats and roaches.

Well, it will not be populated by you or your progeny because Saint Edward
the Great is going to ensure that at least one atom bomb gets dropped right
on your head. If it takes out all of Florida, it will be no loss to the
world. The whole damn state is nothing but a sand bar anyway.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 10:09 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 1, 11:07 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:dbac0c7d-001c-47e6-98db-5c78ae0fede5@z20g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> (I do a collage trying to fix Ed's clumsiness. The stupid stuff is
> his)
> [...]
> On Dec 1, 8:43 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Those wars cost a pittance. What a bargain! I believe we should always
> > employ our military somewhere in the world since ass always needs to be
> > kicked. Right now it is Muslim ass that needs to be kicked but that could
> > change in the near future. Who knows, we may soon have to kick North
> > Korean
> > ass and maybe even Chinese ass. We should already have leveled Iran with
> > nuclear weapons, but we presently have a wimp in the White House who does
> > not know his ass from a hole in the ground.
>
> > The main thing is to keep our ass kicking ability up to par. We do not
> > want
> > our military sitting in barracks at home, getting drunk and raising hell
> > with civilians. Nay, it is far better that they be gainfully employed
> > abroad
> > slaughtering our enemies.
>
> > But if you want peace and quiet, why not move to Costa Rica. I prefer the
> > American Empire myself.
> >> I think you are clown, but an evil clown...
> >>http://www.scaryforkids.com/pics/evil-clown-costume.jpg
> >> The sooner America applies your philosophy, the sooner everything will
>
> be over. No long agonizing over climate change, just cataclysmic event
> leading to the extinction of the species, and thus the New Kingdom
> will take over.
>
> >> This kingdom will be populated by rats and roaches.
>
> Well, it will not be populated by you or your progeny because Saint Edward
> the Great is going to ensure that at least one atom bomb gets dropped right
> on your head. If it takes out all of Florida, it will be no loss to the
> world. The whole damn state is nothing but a sand bar anyway.
>

Yeah right...

http://www.scaryforkids.com/pics/evil-clown-costume.jpg

== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 12:10 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0563232b-bee6-4140-830d-8854c56081ac@h16g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 1, 11:07 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
>> Well, it will not be populated by you or your progeny because Saint
>> Edward
>> the Great is going to ensure that at least one atom bomb gets dropped
>> right
>> on your head. If it takes out all of Florida, it will be no loss to the
>> world. The whole damn state is nothing but a sand bar anyway.
>
> Yeah right...

You've got shit for brains all right. Now what else is new?

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 1:28 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 1, 3:10 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0563232b-bee6-4140-830d-8854c56081ac@h16g2000vbz.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Dec 1, 11:07 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
> >> Well, it will not be populated by you or your progeny because Saint
> >> Edward
> >> the Great is going to ensure that at least one atom bomb gets dropped
> >> right
> >> on your head. If it takes out all of Florida, it will be no loss to the
> >> world. The whole damn state is nothing but a sand bar anyway.
>
> > Yeah right...
>
> You've got shit for brains all right. Now what else is new?

You sure are ugly!

http://www.scaryforkids.com/pics/evil-clown-costume.jpg

== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 1:53 pm
From: Forrest Hodge

On 12/1/2010 7:28 AM, Opus wrote:
> On Nov 30, 8:02 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> snip<
>>>>>> My 400 HP sport/muscle car isn't envious of a folding bicycle.
>>
>>>>> Well, some day I invite to a Triathlon where one of the events is to
>>>>> take the vehicle in the subway.
>>
>>>> No subways where I live, and even there were, I don't care for public
>>>> transportation. I prefer not being at the mercy of bus/subway schedule.
>>
>>> Good, and we're spending a trillion dollars to make sure that the oil
>>> necessary for shitheads like you remains available.
>>
>> Shitheads like me? Care to elaborate or is your argument simply limited
>> to name calling?
>
> People that drive vehicles with a decimal order of magnitude more
> power than they need to move their butts with fossil fuels, because
> they haven't learned to use public transportation and refuse to ride a
> bicycle to move their butts using their butts. Is that elaborate
> enough for you?
>
> And just to be precise, the war in Iraq cost a billion dollars a DAY
> for 6 years, do the math. That doesn't even begin to tackle the cost
> of the war in Afghanistan, and both of those wars were "off-budget"
> items during the Bush administration, roughly $3 trillion added to the
> deficit that wasn't even counted until 2008.

Because public transportation is everywhere, right. Where I live there
are no buses, no subways, no bike lanes. It would suicidal and
inefficient time-wise to bike to work. So consequently I drive
everywhere, and I might as well enjoy myself when I do it. If you really
want to get into semantics, it could be considered decedent and
unnecessary to ride a bike with 20 in or larger wheels or more than one
gear, because everyone should be able to peddle a fixed gear bike up a
steep hill and if you can't you're a "shithead".

== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 2:03 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Dec 1, 4:53 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/1/2010 7:28 AM, Opus wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 30, 8:02 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> snip<
> >>>>>> My 400 HP sport/muscle car isn't envious of a folding bicycle.
>
> >>>>> Well, some day I invite to a Triathlon where one of the events is to
> >>>>> take the vehicle in the subway.
>
> >>>> No subways where I live, and even there were, I don't care for public
> >>>> transportation. I prefer not being at the mercy of bus/subway schedule.
>
> >>> Good, and we're spending a trillion dollars to make sure that the oil
> >>> necessary for shitheads like you remains available.
>
> >> Shitheads like me? Care to elaborate or is your argument simply limited
> >> to name calling?
>
> > People that drive vehicles with a decimal order of magnitude more
> > power than they need to move their butts with fossil fuels, because
> > they haven't learned to use public transportation and refuse to ride a
> > bicycle to move their butts using their butts. Is that elaborate
> > enough for you?
>
> > And just to be precise, the war in Iraq cost a billion dollars a DAY
> > for 6 years, do the math. That doesn't even begin to tackle the cost
> > of the war in Afghanistan, and both of those wars were "off-budget"
> > items during the Bush administration, roughly $3 trillion added to the
> > deficit that wasn't even counted until 2008.
>
> Because public transportation is everywhere, right. Where I live there
> are no buses, no subways, no bike lanes. It would suicidal and
> inefficient time-wise to bike to work. So consequently I drive
> everywhere, and I might as well enjoy myself when I do it. If you really
> want to get into semantics, it could be considered decedent and
> unnecessary to ride a bike with 20 in or larger wheels or more than one
> gear, because everyone should be able to peddle a fixed gear bike up a
> steep hill and if you can't you're a "shithead".

Hey, there are no sidewalks either in most suburbs made for the SUV
so... what do we do, drive an SUV?

Now one question, HOW CAN YOU ENJOY DRIVING A SPORTS CAR IN AMERICA?
So many vigilantes blocking the road and so much predation in speeding
tickets that you feel like driving is for dummies.

I drive a car for dummies, some older Lexus....

(But Opus is right in pointing that out: the bicycle is the best
choice whenever possible)

== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 3:50 pm
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">

On 12/1/2010 3:53 PM, Forrest Hodge wrote:
> [...]
> Because public transportation is everywhere, right. Where I live there
> are no buses, no subways, no bike lanes. It would suicidal and
> inefficient time-wise to bike to work. So consequently I drive
> everywhere, and I might as well enjoy myself when I do it. If you really
> want to get into semantics, it could be considered decedent and
> unnecessary to ride a bike with 20 in or larger wheels or more than one
> gear, because everyone should be able to peddle a fixed gear bike up a
> steep hill and if you can't you're a "shithead".

It is "pedal", not "peddle".

Small wheel are fine for long distances - I have done 125 mile rides in
less than 7 hours on bikes with ISO 305-mm and ISO 406-mm wheels.

--
T�m Sherm�n - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 7:29 pm
From: Forrest Hodge

On 12/1/2010 5:03 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
backyard philosopher wrote:
> On Dec 1, 4:53 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 12/1/2010 7:28 AM, Opus wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 30, 8:02 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> snip<
>>>>>>>> My 400 HP sport/muscle car isn't envious of a folding bicycle.
>>
>>>>>>> Well, some day I invite to a Triathlon where one of the events is to
>>>>>>> take the vehicle in the subway.
>>
>>>>>> No subways where I live, and even there were, I don't care for public
>>>>>> transportation. I prefer not being at the mercy of bus/subway schedule.
>>
>>>>> Good, and we're spending a trillion dollars to make sure that the oil
>>>>> necessary for shitheads like you remains available.
>>
>>>> Shitheads like me? Care to elaborate or is your argument simply limited
>>>> to name calling?
>>
>>> People that drive vehicles with a decimal order of magnitude more
>>> power than they need to move their butts with fossil fuels, because
>>> they haven't learned to use public transportation and refuse to ride a
>>> bicycle to move their butts using their butts. Is that elaborate
>>> enough for you?
>>
>>> And just to be precise, the war in Iraq cost a billion dollars a DAY
>>> for 6 years, do the math. That doesn't even begin to tackle the cost
>>> of the war in Afghanistan, and both of those wars were "off-budget"
>>> items during the Bush administration, roughly $3 trillion added to the
>>> deficit that wasn't even counted until 2008.
>>
>> Because public transportation is everywhere, right. Where I live there
>> are no buses, no subways, no bike lanes. It would suicidal and
>> inefficient time-wise to bike to work. So consequently I drive
>> everywhere, and I might as well enjoy myself when I do it. If you really
>> want to get into semantics, it could be considered decedent and
>> unnecessary to ride a bike with 20 in or larger wheels or more than one
>> gear, because everyone should be able to peddle a fixed gear bike up a
>> steep hill and if you can't you're a "shithead".
>
> Hey, there are no sidewalks either in most suburbs made for the SUV
> so... what do we do, drive an SUV?
>
> Now one question, HOW CAN YOU ENJOY DRIVING A SPORTS CAR IN AMERICA?
> So many vigilantes blocking the road and so much predation in speeding
> tickets that you feel like driving is for dummies.
>
> I drive a car for dummies, some older Lexus....
>
> (But Opus is right in pointing that out: the bicycle is the best
> choice whenever possible)

If you live in suburbs and choose to ride a bike, that's your decision.
You can move to the city and live in a more bike friendly place. There
are trade offs to living an any given area.

How can I drive driving a sports car? Easy, back country roads and a
police force that concerns itself more with keeping violent offenders
off the streets more so that it does with the occasional hooning.

== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 7:35 pm
From: Forrest Hodge

On 12/1/2010 6:50 PM, T�m Sherm�n� �_� > wrote:
> On 12/1/2010 3:53 PM, Forrest Hodge wrote:
>> [...]
>> Because public transportation is everywhere, right. Where I live there
>> are no buses, no subways, no bike lanes. It would suicidal and
>> inefficient time-wise to bike to work. So consequently I drive
>> everywhere, and I might as well enjoy myself when I do it. If you really
>> want to get into semantics, it could be considered decedent and
>> unnecessary to ride a bike with 20 in or larger wheels or more than one
>> gear, because everyone should be able to peddle a fixed gear bike up a
>> steep hill and if you can't you're a "shithead".
>
> It is "pedal", not "peddle".
>
> Small wheel are fine for long distances - I have done 125 mile rides in
> less than 7 hours on bikes with ISO 305-mm and ISO 406-mm wheels.
>
I'll take your word for it. If I have to be somewhere 125 miles away I'd
rather drive there and be there in about 1/3 of the time it takes to
bike. That's not to say I dislike the bicycle, I don't and I do bike for
exercise (though not for 125 miles). But the majority of the time if you
live in the suburbs or a rural area, the car is a much more practical
means of conveyance.

== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 8:38 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Forrest Hodge" <fo19@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:id745k$e8h$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 12/1/2010 6:50 PM, T�m Sherm�n� �_� > wrote:
>> On 12/1/2010 3:53 PM, Forrest Hodge wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> Because public transportation is everywhere, right. Where I live there
>>> are no buses, no subways, no bike lanes. It would suicidal and
>>> inefficient time-wise to bike to work. So consequently I drive
>>> everywhere, and I might as well enjoy myself when I do it. If you really
>>> want to get into semantics, it could be considered decedent and
>>> unnecessary to ride a bike with 20 in or larger wheels or more than one
>>> gear, because everyone should be able to peddle a fixed gear bike up a
>>> steep hill and if you can't you're a "shithead".
>>
>> It is "pedal", not "peddle".
>>
>> Small wheel are fine for long distances - I have done 125 mile rides in
>> less than 7 hours on bikes with ISO 305-mm and ISO 406-mm wheels.

I have never done a century in less than 12 hours. That means it is an all
day ride, from dawn to dusk. 100 miles is too many. 70 miles in one day is
enough for anyone.

> I'll take your word for it. If I have to be somewhere 125 miles away I'd
> rather drive there and be there in about 1/3 of the time it takes to bike.
> That's not to say I dislike the bicycle, I don't and I do bike for
> exercise (though not for 125 miles). But the majority of the time if you
> live in the suburbs or a rural area, the car is a much more practical
> means of conveyance.

Forest Hodge is quite right about the suburbs and rural areas not being
friendly to cyclists. Large cities and small towns are the best venues for
cycling whether they have bike paths or not. However, some rural areas, like
Wisconsin for instance, do have lots of county blacktops which are fine for
cycling, but here in Minnesota it is mostly gravel roads in the countryside.
A gravel road will wear you down, especially on a recumbent.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 10:05 am
From: Kidd Joe

On Nov 26, 8:55 am, "Willow'sAnusRimmer" <perryneh...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> THINK, dumb'uns ... how your nation's CONSUMER-SLAVE-MARKETING-COMPLEX
> has taken perpetual control of your lives!
>
> Oh, I forgot. DUMB'UNS can't think.

Well, they're not called a "herd" for nothing.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 10:07 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

Consider this the best "homage to globalization." All those fancy
French perfumes for the lions of the jungle are suddenly undercut by
cheap imports...

"This line of perfumes will sure sure undercut the competition coming
from Paris. It may be made elsewhere, but it'll be a real cheapo."

http://www.zazzle.com/toilette_tshirt-235441229554758069

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 12:07 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:0d886e12-5fc1-4a40-adb0-641200245bd9@w18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
> Consider this the best "homage to globalization." All those fancy
> French perfumes for the lions of the jungle are suddenly undercut by
> cheap imports...
>
> "This line of perfumes will sure sure undercut the competition coming
> from Paris. It may be made elsewhere, but it'll be a real cheapo."

You've got shit for brains all right. Now what else is new?

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 1:29 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

You sure are ugly!

http://www.scaryforkids.com/pics/evil-clown-costume.jpg

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this Christmas
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 3:48 pm
From: robw

On Nov 29, 8:51 am, The PHANTOM <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 6:49 am, ultimauw@NOSPAMlive@.com (zeez) wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Some rich kids will be gorging on this:
>
> >http://consumerist.com/2010/10/what-every-child-needs-for-christmas-a...
>
> > Of course, the ones at the bottom of the totem pole in companies will
> > have to work extra hard, ignoring their own kids, so the rich asshole
> > on the top can buy this for his little punk.
>
> > --
> > ## _________________________________________________
> > ###### l l
> > ######## l Do not assume, it makes an ass out of U and me l
> > ######## l________________________________________________l
> > ########## started usenet reader at: 4:47:23.63a _Mon_11-29-2010
> > # Remove the obvious from my address to e-mail me. sig2.txt
> > Moco feeds Chris tater tots!
>
> Will Obama,Oprah,Bill Gates and multi-millionaire pro athletes open
> their wallets and give their $millions to feed the hungry in America??
> No,they'll brow beat the hard working taxpayers and try to shame them
> into giving more. Btw,is Obama's Kenyan brother still living in a tin
> roofed shack on $20 a year?? Is his Auntie Zituni still living in
> squalor in a rat infested gubmint tenement?? Yes? Then why won't Obama
> take care care of his own flesh and blood?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You might want to check out how many athletes are involved in programs
to help the needy.
The Eagles do everything from feedijng people to helping to restore
rec centers.

You really should know of what you speak before you run your mouth
there, Cowardly Lying.

But a pussy like you wouldn't know anything about athletics.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 4:18 pm
From: Hiccum Blurpaedius

On Dec 1, 6:48 pm, robw <noddy...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 8:51 am, The PHANTOM <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Nov 29, 6:49 am, ultimauw@NOSPAMlive@.com (zeez) wrote:
>
> > > Some rich kids will be gorging on this:
>
> > >http://consumerist.com/2010/10/what-every-child-needs-for-christmas-a...
>
> > > Of course, the ones at the bottom of the totem pole in companies will
> > > have to work extra hard, ignoring their own kids, so the rich asshole
> > > on the top can buy this for his little punk.
>
> > > --
> > > ## _________________________________________________
> > > ###### l l
> > > ######## l Do not assume, it makes an ass out of U and me l
> > > ######## l________________________________________________l
> > > ########## started usenet reader at: 4:47:23.63a _Mon_11-29-2010
> > > # Remove the obvious from my address to e-mail me. sig2.txt
> > > Moco feeds Chris tater tots!
>
> > Will Obama,Oprah,Bill Gates and multi-millionaire pro athletes open
> > their wallets and give their $millions to feed the hungry in America??
> > No,they'll brow beat the hard working taxpayers and try to shame them
> > into giving more. Btw,is Obama's Kenyan brother still living in a tin
> > roofed shack on $20 a year?? Is his Auntie Zituni still living in
> > squalor in a rat infested gubmint tenement?? Yes? Then why won't Obama
> > take care care of his own flesh and blood?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> You might want to check out how many athletes are involved in programs
> to help the needy.
> The Eagles do everything from feedijng people to helping to restore
> rec centers.
>
> You really should know of what you speak before you run your mouth
> there, Cowardly Lying.
>
> But a pussy like you wouldn't know anything about athletics.

The National Bird should be a Turkey.
The only athletes I know ain't worth the shit on the bottom of my
boots.
What we need is civil war to force the church from the state.
Exterminate the US Marine Corp

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Dec 1 2010 6:49 pm
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Today's topics:

* Republicans and other bastards are trying to slow you down - 8 messages, 5
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d39ef785705ca446?hl=en
* Don't forget: While some kids are homeless and wandering the streets this
Christmas - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4325ec89a90bd7a0?hl=en
* 7 plead guilty in Ark. to stealing baby formula - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/635aface54952601?hl=en
* EXTORADINARY HOT PHOTOS & videos - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/74aefb01690db767?hl=en
* Unemployment benefits question - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/290d85382891358e?hl=en
* Is now REALLY a good time to buy a car? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9a2f660926b654f6?hl=en
* Could the Fart be the best weapon to expose the animal within? - 5 messages,
2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/79653a8212bdaf02?hl=en
* "Paying (kids) for good behavior is worth every penny" Uh, really? - 2
messages, 2 authors
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* paypal payment Jeans Clothing Store | Buy Jeans Online | http://www.24hours-
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* PAYPAL WHOLESALE all BRAND(UGGBOOTS,SHOES,CLOTHES,HANDBAG,WATCH,JEANS,JERSEY,
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 29 2010 11:27 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Nov 29, 3:06 am, "Randolf Richardson (Lumber Cartel, local 42)"
<kingpin+n...@lumbercartel.ca> wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:40:55 -0800, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the
> Free Spirits of the Jungle <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 27, 1:22 pm, "Randolf Richardson (Lumber Cartel, local 42)"
> > <kingpin+n...@lumbercartel.ca> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 06:33:21 -0800, His Highness the TibetanMonkey &
> >> the Free Spirits of the Jungle <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On Nov 27, 8:10 am, Martin Edwards <big_mart...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>> On 26/11/2010 17:22, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free
> >>>> Spirits of the Jungle wrote:
> >> [sNip]
> >>>>> So she would probably recommend flying your own private jet. How
> >>>>> about a helicopter to go to work and beat traffic jams?
>
> >>>> I'd love to, which is rather the point.
>
> >>> If Big Brother wanted to protect Americans, they'd do something about
> >>> traffic. Some 40K deaths plus occur on our chaotic roads every year.
> >>> But accidents don't make the news like an airplane going down. They
> >>> would probably need to regulate the reckless driving of most SUVs as
> >>> well as the cell phone. Too bad the powerful people take advantage of
> >>> them.
>
> >> In Canada our government overbuilds the roads so that people
> >> who speed can still be relatively safe, and then there's active
> >> enforcement of speed limits. In fact, during the past few years the
> >> laws have been improved to increase the severity of fines and
> >> consequences for dangerous driving, and also many restrictions have
> >> been placed on cellular telephone use that make it almost as serious
> >> as impaired driving -- if you're not using a hands-free device with
> >> your cellular while driving, you are in violation of Canadian law and
> >> the police actually enforce it here.
>
> >> I hope that the USA, and other countries, will follow our
> >> lead.
>
> > It has long seemed to me that America has been looking South in order
> > to feel good compared to the Banana Republics, when it should have
> > been looking North, particularly when it comes to SAFETY, GATED
> > COMMUNITIES, AND HEALTHCARE.
>
> Well, we're a long way from perfect too. There are many other things we
> could benefit from too.
>
> > Now two questions:
>
> > 1- Do you have LANE DISCIPLINE in Canada or are SUVs zigzagging all
> > around you?
>
> I haven't seen much of that from my SUV. Most of the street racers
> around here drive little hopped up Honda and Nissan cars with spoilers and
> other add-ons (which I assume are there to support certain wind flow
> enhancement theories, although they never seem to be enough to outrun the
> RCMP).

Well, I can only hope you are NOT among the worst dinosaurs. I think
they were among the worst mistakes of evolution --right after man.

Dinosaur is a metaphor for Supersized Unnecessary Vehicles, of course.
I see the need for some of them, but I also see the "arms race"
unleashed by them.

>
> > 2- Do you have Gated Communities in Canada?
>
> Yes, there are some. For example, all the 7-Eleven stores have gates
> (although they're never locked) which do lead to small communities (e.g.,
> repeat customers who greet the staff on a first-name basis and engage in
> friendly banter every day).

Wow, a friendly place like right here in North America!

>
> > 3- Do you still have people waiting for Jesus to solve the problems
> > of the world (optional question)?
>
> Yes (even though it's optional here) -- there are too many.

Good, and I hope they don't vote Republican!

Do you know you live among the places most hated by them, a SOCIALIST
UTOPIA!?

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 6:54 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Nov 30, 6:47 am, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> On 11/30/10 6:23 AM, Steve wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:26:26 -0500, dr_jeff<u...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >> On 11/29/10 8:56 PM, Steve wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 20:27:12 -0500, dr_jeff<u...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >>>> On 11/29/10 8:07 PM, Steve wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 19:28:37 -0500, dr_jeff<u...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On 11/29/10 6:52 PM, Steve wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:04:28 -0500, dr_jeff<u...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> On 11/29/10 8:15 AM, Steve wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 06:43:17 -0500, dr_jeff<u...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/29/10 5:25 AM, Steve wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 04:02:21 -0500, Dave Head<rally...@att.net>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:14:12 -0800, "5829 Dead, 972 since 1/20/09"
> >>>>>>>>>>>> <dead@dead> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 01:07:09 GMT, russo...@grace.speakeasy.net
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Matthew Russotto) wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article<UOOdnVKmpM7V3m_RnZ2dnUVZ_qidn...@giganews.com>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> dr_jeff<u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/27/10 10:10 PM, Matthew Russotto wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In article<HISdnWrnh6pWCnXRnZ2dnUVZ_jSdn...@giganews.com>,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dr_jeff<u...@msu.edu> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I don't hope that nuclear energy takes off. It is not 100%
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clean. Nothing is. Unless we can get fusion to work in a big way,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuclear should provide a large part of our energy. Unfortunately, we
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will have to build a new electrical grid backbone.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nothing will ever be 100% clean. Not even if fusion were made practical.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not even if aneutronic fusion was made practical.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The best way to cut down our use of fossil fuels in the near-term is
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conservation.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Staying in one place, shivering, in the dark. No thanks.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Really? How about just shutting of the electricity to your TV and other
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electronics at night, instead of shutting them "off"? When you shut a TV
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or other device, it is not truly off. Instead, it still uses
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electricity. Cutting off the electricity fixes the problem.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Straining at gnats.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It's supposedly about 3% of the total US electrical use. That's quite
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> a large "gnat".
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3% isn't worth any effort at all, unless you could duplicate it many
> >>>>>>>>>>>> times. 30% is something to do something for, but that won't be cheap.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Besides, what he describes is nowhere near 3%.. more like 0.3%
>
> >>>>>>>>>> It's at least 3%.
>
> >>>>>>>>> Total bullshit..
>
> >>>>>>>>> According to the DOE, all residential color television usage is about
> >>>>>>>>> 3% of the total US residential electrical usage. That's all color
> >>>>>>>>> television usage in both the on and the off state.
> >>>>>>>>>http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/recs/recs2001/enduse2001/enduse2001.html
>
> >>>>>>>> That was ten years ago.
>
> >>>>>>> ...and TVs today use even less standby power.. lots less...
>
> >>>>>> Not plasma TVs. They can use around 1500 kWH per year or over $150 worth
> >>>>>> of electricity.
>
> >>>>> The standby power is much less than it was ten years ago.. We are
> >>>>> talking about this "vampire" standby power, aren't we, Bunky?
>
> >>>> Who's 'Bunky'?
>
> >>>> Standby power is about 5% of residential use according to DOE
> >>>>http://standby.lbl.gov/archives/global.html
>
> >>> <ROTFLMAO> That isn't the DOE, you pathetic moron, it's a wacko lefty
> >>> university.
>
> >> Berkley is part of the Univ. of California System.
>
> > Exactly... and Berkeley Lab is part of that system..
>
> >> You would not in the URL that it includes lbl.gov, which indicates that
> >> it is a government site, not a educational site.
>
> > It's not a government site, Dummy. Government sites are labeled as
> > ".gov" not "xxx.gov."
>
> WTF?
>
> .gov means the domain name ends in ".gov". As in "whitehouse.gov".
>
> >> The Berkley I am talking about is a DOE lab.
>
> > Read carefully, you moron. Berkeley Lab is not the DOE.
>
> No, it is a national lab owned by the DOE. It is under contract to be
> run by the University of California. Then why does it say at the very
> bottom of the page, "A U.S. Department of Energy National Laboratory
> Operated by the University of California"?
>
> > It is part
> > of the University of California at Berkeley, a wacko lefty university.
> > It's designation as a national lab under the DOE simply states that it
> > is under contract with the DOE but it is staffed and run by the
> > Berkeley University.
>
> You got it backwards. It is a DOE lab that is operated by University of
> California.
>
> > It does not speak for the DOE
>
> Actually, it does. Because it is a DOE-owned lab.
>
> Besides, you yet to show that it has said anything incorrect.
>
> Here is another article saying that up to 10% of all residential power
> use is vampire power:http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V2V-517BB5...
>
> And here is on in Belgium where they studies actual households: They
> found 8% is wasted on standby power:http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=4424225
>
> The lab may be operated by the "wacko, lefty" university, but they came
> to the correct conclusion.
>
> So drop your whining, and show that the results that they are finding
> are incorrect.

These Republicans don't believe in science and Climate Change. Hey, I
want you to do a simple test in your lab. Place a Republican in his
car in a closed garage overnight and leave the car running. If he
survives carbon gases are harmless. ;)

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 7:43 am
From: dgk

On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:44:33 -0500, Forrest Hodge <fo19@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 11/29/2010 4:27 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
>backyard philosopher wrote:
>> On Nov 29, 4:01 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 11/29/2010 11:20 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> backyard philosopher wrote:
>>>> On Nov 29, 10:17 am, Vince<vpilu...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>> On 11/29/2010 9:21 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
>>>>> backyard philosopher wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> One solution is to get folding bike.
>>>
>>>>> Can't get a basket on those
>>>
>>>> Sorry, I missed this comment which is tied up to the sidewalks.
>>>
>>>> The folding bike not only can take a basket it already comes with
>>>> rack! That would be the ONLY bicycle I'd allow on sidewalks. The other
>>>> bastards will get their bicycles impounded. I'd wouldn't worry about
>>>> tickets.
>>>
>>>> This is a gem of simplicity and comfort...
>>>
>>>> http://www.bikesarecool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=397
>>>
>>>> Let the Republicans die of envy!
>>>
>>> My 400 HP sport/muscle car isn't envious of a folding bicycle.
>>
>> Well, some day I invite to a Triathlon where one of the events is to
>> take the vehicle in the subway.
>>
>
>No subways where I live, and even there were, I don't care for public
>transportation. I prefer not being at the mercy of bus/subway schedule.

Good, and we're spending a trillion dollars to make sure that the oil
necessary for shitheads like you remains available.

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 9:20 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Nov 30, 10:43 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:44:33 -0500, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On 11/29/2010 4:27 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
> >backyard philosopher wrote:
> >> On Nov 29, 4:01 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On 11/29/2010 11:20 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
>
> >>> backyard philosopher wrote:
> >>>> On Nov 29, 10:17 am, Vince<vpilu...@optonline.net> wrote:
> >>>>> On 11/29/2010 9:21 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
> >>>>> backyard philosopher wrote:
>
> >>>>>> One solution is to get folding bike.
>
> >>>>> Can't get a basket on those
>
> >>>> Sorry, I missed this comment which is tied up to the sidewalks.
>
> >>>> The folding bike not only can take a basket it already comes with
> >>>> rack! That would be the ONLY bicycle I'd allow on sidewalks. The other
> >>>> bastards will get their bicycles impounded. I'd wouldn't worry about
> >>>> tickets.
>
> >>>> This is a gem of simplicity and comfort...
>
> >>>>http://www.bikesarecool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=397
>
> >>>> Let the Republicans die of envy!
>
> >>> My 400 HP sport/muscle car isn't envious of a folding bicycle.
>
> >> Well, some day I invite to a Triathlon where one of the events is to
> >> take the vehicle in the subway.
>
> >No subways where I live, and even there were, I don't care for public
> >transportation. I prefer not being at the mercy of bus/subway schedule.
>
> Good, and we're spending a trillion dollars to make sure that the oil
> necessary for shitheads like you remains available.

And then borrow that money and get the nation into debt, not knowing
where to tax --least of all the "sacred cow"... tax gasoline.

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 4:41 pm
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">

On 11/30/2010 9:43 AM, dgk wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:44:33 -0500, Forrest Hodge<fo19@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> No subways where I live, and even there were, I don't care for public
>> transportation. I prefer not being at the mercy of bus/subway schedule.
>
> Good, and we're spending a trillion dollars to make sure that the oil
> necessary for shitheads like you remains available.

Your trillion dollars is at least an order of magnitude too low.

--
T�m Sherm�n - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 5:44 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Nov 30, 7:41 pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net"> wrote:
> On 11/30/2010 9:43 AM, dgk wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:44:33 -0500, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> No subways where I live, and even there were, I don't care for public
> >> transportation. I prefer not being at the mercy of bus/subway schedule.
>
> > Good, and we're spending a trillion dollars to make sure that the oil
> > necessary for shitheads like you remains available.
>
> Your trillion dollars is at least an order of magnitude too low.
>

Let's say it's been a zillion square. ;)

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 6:02 pm
From: Forrest Hodge

On 11/30/2010 10:43 AM, dgk wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Nov 2010 21:44:33 -0500, Forrest Hodge<fo19@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 11/29/2010 4:27 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
>> backyard philosopher wrote:
>>> On Nov 29, 4:01 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 11/29/2010 11:20 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> backyard philosopher wrote:
>>>>> On Nov 29, 10:17 am, Vince<vpilu...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/29/2010 9:21 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average
>>>>>> backyard philosopher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> One solution is to get folding bike.
>>>>
>>>>>> Can't get a basket on those
>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, I missed this comment which is tied up to the sidewalks.
>>>>
>>>>> The folding bike not only can take a basket it already comes with
>>>>> rack! That would be the ONLY bicycle I'd allow on sidewalks. The other
>>>>> bastards will get their bicycles impounded. I'd wouldn't worry about
>>>>> tickets.
>>>>
>>>>> This is a gem of simplicity and comfort...
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.bikesarecool.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=397
>>>>
>>>>> Let the Republicans die of envy!
>>>>
>>>> My 400 HP sport/muscle car isn't envious of a folding bicycle.
>>>
>>> Well, some day I invite to a Triathlon where one of the events is to
>>> take the vehicle in the subway.
>>>
>>
>> No subways where I live, and even there were, I don't care for public
>> transportation. I prefer not being at the mercy of bus/subway schedule.
>
> Good, and we're spending a trillion dollars to make sure that the oil
> necessary for shitheads like you remains available.

Shitheads like me? Care to elaborate or is your argument simply limited
to name calling?

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 6:16 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Nov 30, 8:37 pm, "Jane_Galt" <Jane__G...@GaltsGulch.xyz> wrote:
> dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote :
>
> > Shutting off 3 TVs, 3 VCRs and 2 Amplifiers would save about $20 per
> > month. That's around 150 kWH. This is for doing a little thing that has
> > no change on the quality of life. And, it saves more money in the
> > summer, because the A/C is not needed to pump the heat generated by the
> > electronics. I regularly shut off my internet box, router and laptop
> > when I go to bed or leave for work.
>
> > So by just using power strips, you can save $240 per year. And, no
> > negative consequences.
>
> Hogwash, it would take time, which costs part of our lives.
>
> Just go away, enviro-nazi.
>
> I'm thinking of increasing my carbon footprint because of people like you.
>
> --
> - Jane Galt
>
> By taxing, borrowing and wasting money that the tax slaves must be forced to
> pay back, Government does NOT "create jobs", it NEVER HAS. It actually
> consumes and destroys the wealth that the private sector, which really DOES
> create jobs, could be using to do so!

I think the Republicans/Christians/Rand-ians are doing an awesome job
at destroying the environment, but, of course, you can do worse.

I suggest we open our National Parks to SUVs and hunters.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 4:15 am
From: The PHANTOM

On Nov 29, 8:30 pm, lorad <lorad...@cs.com> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 8:51 am, The PHANTOM <hoofhearte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Nov 29, 6:49 am, ultimauw@NOSPAMlive@.com (zeez) wrote:
>
> > > Some rich kids will be gorging on this:
>
> > >http://consumerist.com/2010/10/what-every-child-needs-for-christmas-a...
>
> > > Of course, the ones at the bottom of the totem pole in companies will
> > > have to work extra hard, ignoring their own kids, so the rich asshole
> > > on the top can buy this for his little punk.
>
> > > --
> > > ## _________________________________________________
> > > ###### l l
> > > ######## l Do not assume, it makes an ass out of U and me l
> > > ######## l________________________________________________l
> > > ########## started usenet reader at: 4:47:23.63a _Mon_11-29-2010
> > > # Remove the obvious from my address to e-mail me. sig2.txt
> > > Moco feeds Chris tater tots!
>
> > Will Obama,Oprah,Bill Gates and multi-millionaire pro athletes open
> > their wallets and give their $millions to feed the hungry in America??
> > No,they'll brow beat the hard working taxpayers and try to shame them
> > into giving more. Btw,is Obama's Kenyan brother still living in a tin
> > roofed shack on $20 a year?? Is his Auntie Zituni still living in
> > squalor in a rat infested gubmint tenement?? Yes? Then why won't Obama
> > take care care of his own flesh and blood?
>
> Because the elite - and those who aspire to be elites - are really not
> completely human.

How about those that aspire to be gubmint cheese eaters,anchor baby
factories and thugs?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 4:55 am
From: walt tonne

On Nov 29, 8:03 pm, Mrs Irish Mike <wilma6...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 10:28 am, walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.illegalaliens.us/
>
> I looked at your site and it seems pretty interesting. I have a
> couple questions.
>
> First, what is "dot us" mean? I've seen "dot gov" or "dot com" or
> even "dot org", but the few times I've seen "dot us" it was always
> some ripoff outfit from China or something.
>
> Second, I did a search for the word "Irish" and I got no results
> about Irish illegal immigrants. Why's that? There are lots of them and
> they didn't come here to escape the type of poverty one sees in Latin
> America. Ireland has always been known for its religion based
> terrorism and here you just let them slide. Are you a front for
> religous terrorism? Or do you think bombing innocents in the name of
> religion is OK?
>
> Waiting your response. Thank you.

Clarification; deport all illegal aliens to include europeans and
asians. Appx.
25K illegal alien Irish in the Boston area. No exceptions.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 6:29 am
From: guru datta

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 10:39 am
From: Kompu Kid

She tried. She says she was put on hold for hours.

I'll tell her to do a search of the EDD web site.

Thanks
On Nov 27, 6:15 am, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <9a493196-eadb-40a4-9a40-d332be963...@y19g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
> Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Even if she stopped collecting unemployment by not requesting checks?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Deguza
>
> > On Nov 25, 10:48 am, info_at_1-script_dot_...@foo.com (spendwize.com)
> > wrote:
> > > You must notify the agency whenever you earn any money. otherwise, at the
> > > end of the year when she receives her 1099 or W-2 statement, which her
> > > employer will submit to the goverment, she may have to repay some of the
> > > unemployment!
> > > xxxxo
> > > -------------------------------------
>
> > > Kompu Kid wrote:
> > > > Hello All:
> > > > A friend who had been unemployed for almost 20 moths, found contract
> > > > work.
> > > > Does she supposed to let the EDD (name of the unemployment office here
> > > > in California) know that she is making money?
> > > > She says just not returning the form EDD sends you with your last
> > > > check is enough...
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Deguza
> >
> Why doesn't your friend simply call the nearest unemployment office and
> ask? The office might even have that information on a web site somewhere.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 12:58 pm
From: aesthete8

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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 2:46 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

Look at how Leslie Nielsen saved this embarrassing situation...

"You are not going to ask me to leave, are you?"

(this is serious!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5egaR4WvLPY

***

This "thing" is the best weapon out there to show our true animal
instincts. Of course, violence could be worse, so we are not going to
turn to something like that.

I'm launching a t-shirt that will just revolutionize the world of
perfumes and sophisticated smells. The French may hate me for this,
but hey c' la vie!

***World Premiere!***

http://www.webspawner.com/users/fartforpeace/index.html

This is simple enough: The Christians have their praying; we've got
the ultimate animal weapon.

"Hey Leslie, wherever you are, thanks for relieving us of boredom and
suffering!"

(boredom and suffering are the Christian way)

--------------------------------------------------------

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 4:26 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:53948cee-bcc9-4458-84c7-4edff2369c99@n32g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> Look at how Leslie Nielsen saved this embarrassing situation...
>
> "You are not going to ask me to leave, are you?"
>
> (this is serious!)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5egaR4WvLPY
>
> ***
>
> This "thing" is the best weapon out there to show our true animal
> instincts. Of course, violence could be worse, so we are not going to
> turn to something like that.
>
> I'm launching a t-shirt that will just revolutionize the world of
> perfumes and sophisticated smells. The French may hate me for this,
> but hey c' la vie!
>
> ***World Premiere!***
>
> http://www.webspawner.com/users/fartforpeace/index.html
>
> This is simple enough: The Christians have their praying; we've got
> the ultimate animal weapon.
>
> "Hey Leslie, wherever you are, thanks for relieving us of boredom and
> suffering!"
>
> (boredom and suffering are the Christian way)

TM is a poor crazy bastard who just posts on his one favorite subject -
hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
poor crazy bastard, then you are a poor crazy bastard too.

He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
with monkeys, but I can't prove it.

TM should confine himself to just one thread instead of proliferating them
like a poor crazy bastard. He is insane of course. I liken him to the
village idiot of olden times. The difference these days is that no one any
longer recognizes the village idiot because idiocy has become so widespread.

But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy bastard TM is.
It is a mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot
even if the rest of you can't.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 5:42 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Nov 30, 2:00 pm, Mike Jones <l...@dasteem.invalid> wrote:

> In a spirit of good will, I've just stuffed everybody at chez Jones with
> a nice bangers&mash dinner. We'll be "getting to it" pretty soon. ;)

Be sure to do it for a good cause like the end of war or religion,
even if it's wishful thinking.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 5:53 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:36ccb169-4db9-4397-96a6-9fe4ff4eb803@n2g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 30, 2:00 pm, Mike Jones <l...@dasteem.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In a spirit of good will, I've just stuffed everybody at chez Jones with
>> a nice bangers&mash dinner. We'll be "getting to it" pretty soon. ;)
>
> Be sure to do it for a good cause like the end of war or religion,
> even if it's wishful thinking.

You've got shit for brains all right. Now what else is new?

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 6:17 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"

On Nov 30, 8:53 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, not your average backyard philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:36ccb169-4db9-4397-96a6-9fe4ff4eb803@n2g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Nov 30, 2:00 pm, Mike Jones <l...@dasteem.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> In a spirit of good will, I've just stuffed everybody at chez Jones with
> >> a nice bangers&mash dinner. We'll be "getting to it" pretty soon. ;)
>
> > Be sure to do it for a good cause like the end of war or religion,
> > even if it's wishful thinking.
>
> You've got shit for brains all right. Now what else is new?
>

Listen, I give a fart about you and any other bastard trying to slow
me down.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 4:57 pm
From: Lenona

The following article is by a columnist who very much disagrees!

http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/30/2483758/living-with-children.html

Only thing I wonder about is, why has the columnist, in past years,
made it sound as though kids are entitled to a no-strings allowance?
After all, if it's OK for poor parents to tell their kids they have to
work for all their money (AND do unpaid chores, I assume) why isn't it
OK for richer parents to do that?

Lenona.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 30 2010 8:39 pm
From: Shawn Hirn

In article
<d7e26a0e-4b7d-4654-be72-2ccbd156217d@b25g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>,
Lenona <lenona321@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The following article is by a columnist who very much disagrees!
>
> http://www.kansascity.com/2010/11/30/2483758/living-with-children.html
>
> Only thing I wonder about is, why has the columnist, in past years,
> made it sound as though kids are entitled to a no-strings allowance?
> After all, if it's OK for poor parents to tell their kids they have to
> work for all their money (AND do unpaid chores, I assume) why isn't it
> OK for richer parents to do that?

Utter nonsense. I think kids who get an allowance and/or gifts from
their parents without doing something to earn their allowance and gifts
become spoiled brats.

I do not have kids, but I am a god parent of four young kids. My
11-year-old god daughter and I have a deal. She is terrible at math, so
for her birthday, I told her I would buy her a new iPod touch if she
pulls up her math grade to a B+ by the time her birthday, which is in
three weeks. She hemmed and hawed with me about that, but at the end of
the day, her math grade is now a B+. If she keeps it up for another
three weeks, she will be getting an iPod touch from me. If her math
grade sinks below a B+, I will still buy her a birthday gift, but it
will not be anything elaborate.

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