Frugal Living: Nov 2, 2007

Friday, November 2, 2007

25 new messages in 15 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: craigslist.com sucks
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5295ab901d703ea7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:23 am
From: George Grapman

Jon v Leipzig wrote:
> cbielich@yahoo.com wrote:
>> So basically this site sucks. Let me tell you the main reason why.
>> THEY ARE COMMUNISTS.......
>>
>> Yes they are communists - people why in the world are we going to
>> support a site like this in the US. STOP USING CRAIGLIST. Dont believe
>> me? just read this right off their site about their CEO.
>>
>> http://www.craigslist.org/about/jim.buckmaster.html
>>
>> Yeah I was dumbfounded too when I read that after using craigslist for
>> about a year. I will never use it again. Instead I use askorfind.com.
>> Basically same thing but they are not communists.
>>
>> IF YOU ARE A US CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTRY YOU SHOULD NOT USE
>> CRAIGSLIST.COM
>>
>
> Imo,there's so few of them left, they're really quite harmless.
>
> Could be worse, he could be a greedy capitalist and charge for ads.
>
> Even the "commie" Chinese are becoming $$Capitalists$$, and lovin it.
craiglist make enough money on job ads that ebay saw fit to buy 25
percent of the company.

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TOPIC: Guaranteed Unlimited Income
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/915487648a6bcef5?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:24 am
From: George Grapman

My income is not unlimited. Since you guaranteed it would be please
send me a blank check.

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TOPIC: A legal method of asset protection is being offered .....
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/39c9a049b98770f6?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:39 am
From: Scott in SoCal

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:36:41 -0000, CollegeDyanmics
<CollegeDynamics@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Nov 2, 7:31 am, "jerryl" <j...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> "CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1194005840.074560.51490@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> >I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
>> > protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
>> > to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
>> > your car.
>>
>> > Check out the method at:
>> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:I...
>>
>> > I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
>> > protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
>> > but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
>> > broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
>> > prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
>> > seized.
>>
>> > I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
>> > someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
>> > report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
>> > protection.
>>
>> Gee, the intellectual info is being sold by someone on Ebay with 0, that's
>> zero feedback. The item was just placed on Ebay an hour ago and you're
>> telling us that you already purchased it (there were no bids or buyers on
>> the item) and saved your car, your house and your underwear. That's great.
>> Don't you think that your shilling of your own sale is quite obvious and
>> stupid?
>
>I bought from him before, he asked me to help him advertise.

Please see a doctor immediately about your multiple personality
disorder.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 10:14 am
From: "jerryl"

"CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynamics@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194007001.741850.239800@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 7:31 am, "jerryl" <j...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> "CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1194005840.074560.51490@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> >I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
>> > protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
>> > to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
>> > your car.
>>
>> > Check out the method at:
>> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:I...
>>
>> > I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
>> > protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
>> > but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
>> > broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
>> > prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
>> > seized.
>>
>> > I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
>> > someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
>> > report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
>> > protection.
>>
>> Gee, the intellectual info is being sold by someone on Ebay with 0,
>> that's
>> zero feedback. The item was just placed on Ebay an hour ago and you're
>> telling us that you already purchased it (there were no bids or buyers on
>> the item) and saved your car, your house and your underwear. That's
>> great.
>> Don't you think that your shilling of your own sale is quite obvious and
>> stupid?
>
> I bought from him before, he asked me to help him advertise.
>
If you bought from him before, why does he have zero feedback?

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko sdfssdfsdfs
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d4b68bbf25260218?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:51 am
From: Nenad Milicevic - Arijevac

Milenko Kindl

ANKARA, Turkey - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice assured Turkish
officials Friday that Kurdish rebels based in northern Iraq were a
"common threat" and that the United States would help Ankara in its
fight against them.
ADVERTISEMENT

Speaking after meeting with both Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan
and Foreign Minister Ali Babacan, Rice said she had emphasized that
the United States is "committed to redoubling its efforts" to help
Turkey in its struggle against the rebel fighters.

"We consider this a common threat, not just to the interests of Turkey
but to the interests of the United States as well," she said at a
joint news conference with Babacan. "This is going to take persistence
and it's going to take commitment - this is a very difficult problem."

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further
information. AP's earlier story is below.

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says the
United States, Turkey and Iraq will counter any attacks on Turkey by
Kurdish rebels operating out of northern Iraq.

She didn't specify just what that meant in speaking with reporters en
route to diplomatic meetings in Turkey and the Middle East, and she
warned against doing anything that might worsen the volatile situation
on the Turkish-Iraqi border.

Rice was in Turkey's capital Friday and meeting with Prime Minister
Recep Tayyip Erdogan and other high-ranking officials as part of an
intense campaign to prevent Turkey from sending its troops across the
border into northern Iraq to fight Kurdish guerrillas.

She planned to press the U.S. case that Iraqi Kurds and Turkey should
back away from an escalating conflict. So far the U.S. has won no
public promises to stand down.

She also will try to soothe lingering irritation by Turkey over a
House committee vote last month that labeled as genocide the deaths of
Armenians a century ago at the hands of Ottoman Turks.

Turkey has complained for months about what it contends is a lack of
U.S. support against the rebels known as PKK. The Turkish government
has threatened a full-scale ground attack into northern Iraq if the
U.S. and Iraqi officials fail to do something about the rebels.

"We have a common enemy and we are going to act as if we have a common
enemy, which means that we are going to work with our Turkish allies
and the Iraqis" to have an effective way of dealing with the PKK, Rice
said Thursday to reporters traveling with her.

Raids by the rebels and other fighting have left 47 people dead in
Turkey since Sept. 29, including 35 soldiers. The skirmishes were the
latest in a conflict that dates back to 1984 and has seen nearly
40,000 people killed.

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko fefj0jriji
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/70d5c91d5239386c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:51 am
From: Nenad Milicevic - Arijevac

Milenko Kindl

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further
information. AP's earlier story is below.

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says the
United States, Turkey and Iraq will counter any attacks on Turkey by
Kurdish rebels operating out of northern Iraq.

She planned to press the U.S. case that Iraqi Kurds and Turkey should
back away from an escalating conflict. So far the U.S. has won no
public promises to stand down.

She also will try to soothe lingering irritation by Turkey over a
House committee vote last month that labeled as genocide the deaths of
Armenians a century ago at the hands of Ottoman Turks.

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko fefj0jrij
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/929ecf926f396c08?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:52 am
From: Nenad Milicevic - Arijevac

Milenko Kindl

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further
information. AP's earlier story is below.

ANKARA, Turkey (AP) - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says the
United States, Turkey and Iraq will counter any attacks on Turkey by
Kurdish rebels operating out of northern Iraq.

She planned to press the U.S. case that Iraqi Kurds and Turkey should
back away from an escalating conflict. So far the U.S. has won no
public promises to stand down.

She also will try to soothe lingering irritation by Turkey over a
House committee vote last month that labeled as genocide the deaths of
Armenians a century ago at the hands of Ottoman Turks.

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TOPIC: US-made pizza recalled due to E. coli; maybe China should boycott all
US-made pizzas
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/9884cdeb97cd8332?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:08 am
From: vk111vk@mail.com

so solly china man no likee pizza
On Nov 2, 9:23 am, david_huang2...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNewsAndPR/idUSWNAS984320071101
>
> Totino's and Jeno's pizza recalled due to E. coli
>
> CHICAGO (Reuters) - Almost five million Totino's and Jeno's frozen
> pizzas with pepperoni toppings are being recalled because the
> pepperoni may be contaminated with E. coli, General Mills Inc said on
> Thursday.
>
> General Mills, which owns the Totino's and Jeno's brands, said the
> recall affects about 414,000 cases of pizza products currently in
> stores and all similar pizza products that might be in consumers'
> freezers. Each case contains 12 pizzas.
>
> The possible E. coli contamination was uncovered by state and federal
> authorities investigating 21 E. coli-related illnesses in 10 states.
>
> General Mills said nine of the 21 people reported having eaten
> Totino's or Jeno's pizza with pepperoni topping at some point before
> becoming ill.
>
> The people became ill between July 20 and October 10, the USDA's Food
> Safety and Inspection Service said, adding that all the patients
> recovered.
>
> The people did not have packages with dates codes or other information
> General Mills needs to narrow down which pizzas might be affected,
> General Mills spokesman Tom Forsythe said, adding that, for the same
> reason, the company could not determine which of its suppliers
> provided the pepperoni.
>
> E.coli O157:H7 is a potentially deadly bacteria that can cause bloody
> diarrhea and dehydration. The very young, seniors and persons with
> compromised immune systems are the most vulnerable to food borne
> disease.
>
> The recall includes eight types of Totino's brand frozen pizza and
> three types of Jeno's brand frozen pizza with pepperoni topping, or
> pepperoni in combination with other toppings.
>
> The frozen pizzas were produced in its Wellston, Ohio, plant and
> distributed throughout the United States. The plant is currently
> making other pizzas, but not with pepperoni, General Mills spokesman
> Tom Forsythe said.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> You get the message: US made products may be just as bad as Chinese
> manufactured ones: So many products may be tainted with E-coli like
> last fall's lettuce. Protectionism can go both ways. I'd rather not
> have Pelosi and her protectionist congress dumping on China just
> because their own consumers prefer Chinese stuff to their own
> industry. The US should fix their own trade deficit rather than
> picking on China in vain.
>
> David Huang

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:53 am
From: "Bill"

Thank you for posting this! I had a bunch of these in my freezer. I will
return them...

<david_huang2007@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194013432.672604.130940@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNewsAndPR/idUSWNAS984320071101
>
> Totino's and Jeno's pizza recalled due to E. coli
>
> CHICAGO (Reuters) - Almost five million Totino's and Jeno's frozen
> pizzas with pepperoni toppings are being recalled because the
> pepperoni may be contaminated with E. coli, General Mills Inc said on
> Thursday.
>
> General Mills, which owns the Totino's and Jeno's brands, said the
> recall affects about 414,000 cases of pizza products currently in
> stores and all similar pizza products that might be in consumers'
> freezers. Each case contains 12 pizzas.
>
> The possible E. coli contamination was uncovered by state and federal
> authorities investigating 21 E. coli-related illnesses in 10 states.
>
> General Mills said nine of the 21 people reported having eaten
> Totino's or Jeno's pizza with pepperoni topping at some point before
> becoming ill.
>
> The people became ill between July 20 and October 10, the USDA's Food
> Safety and Inspection Service said, adding that all the patients
> recovered.
>
> The people did not have packages with dates codes or other information
> General Mills needs to narrow down which pizzas might be affected,
> General Mills spokesman Tom Forsythe said, adding that, for the same
> reason, the company could not determine which of its suppliers
> provided the pepperoni.
>
> E.coli O157:H7 is a potentially deadly bacteria that can cause bloody
> diarrhea and dehydration. The very young, seniors and persons with
> compromised immune systems are the most vulnerable to food borne
> disease.
>
> The recall includes eight types of Totino's brand frozen pizza and
> three types of Jeno's brand frozen pizza with pepperoni topping, or
> pepperoni in combination with other toppings.
>
> The frozen pizzas were produced in its Wellston, Ohio, plant and
> distributed throughout the United States. The plant is currently
> making other pizzas, but not with pepperoni, General Mills spokesman
> Tom Forsythe said.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> You get the message: US made products may be just as bad as Chinese
> manufactured ones: So many products may be tainted with E-coli like
> last fall's lettuce. Protectionism can go both ways. I'd rather not
> have Pelosi and her protectionist congress dumping on China just
> because their own consumers prefer Chinese stuff to their own
> industry. The US should fix their own trade deficit rather than
> picking on China in vain.
>
> David Huang
>

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 10:01 am
From: "Chloe"

"Bill" <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5p0vftFp2s65U1@mid.individual.net...
> Thank you for posting this! I had a bunch of these in my freezer. I will
> return them...

I believe the recall notice says to destroy them, and gives an address to
write for a refund.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:29 pm
From: Siskuwihane

On Nov 2, 9:23 am, david_huang2...@hotmail.com wrote:
> http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNewsAndPR/idUSWNAS984320071101
>
> Totino's and Jeno's pizza recalled due to E. coli
>
> CHICAGO (Reuters) - Almost five million Totino's and Jeno's frozen
> pizzas with pepperoni toppings are being recalled because the
> pepperoni may be contaminated with E. coli, General Mills Inc said on
> Thursday.
>
> General Mills, which owns the Totino's and Jeno's brands, said the
> recall affects about 414,000 cases of pizza products currently in
> stores and all similar pizza products that might be in consumers'
> freezers. Each case contains 12 pizzas.
>
> The possible E. coli contamination was uncovered by state and federal
> authorities investigating 21 E. coli-related illnesses in 10 states.
>
> General Mills said nine of the 21 people reported having eaten
> Totino's or Jeno's pizza with pepperoni topping at some point before
> becoming ill.
>
> The people became ill between July 20 and October 10, the USDA's Food
> Safety and Inspection Service said, adding that all the patients
> recovered.
>
> The people did not have packages with dates codes or other information
> General Mills needs to narrow down which pizzas might be affected,
> General Mills spokesman Tom Forsythe said, adding that, for the same
> reason, the company could not determine which of its suppliers
> provided the pepperoni.
>
> E.coli O157:H7 is a potentially deadly bacteria that can cause bloody
> diarrhea and dehydration. The very young, seniors and persons with
> compromised immune systems are the most vulnerable to food borne
> disease.
>
> The recall includes eight types of Totino's brand frozen pizza and
> three types of Jeno's brand frozen pizza with pepperoni topping, or
> pepperoni in combination with other toppings.
>
> The frozen pizzas were produced in its Wellston, Ohio, plant and
> distributed throughout the United States. The plant is currently
> making other pizzas, but not with pepperoni, General Mills spokesman
> Tom Forsythe said.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> You get the message: US made products may be just as bad as Chinese
> manufactured ones: So many products may be tainted with E-coli like
> last fall's lettuce. Protectionism can go both ways. I'd rather not
> have Pelosi and her protectionist congress dumping on China just
> because their own consumers prefer Chinese stuff to their own
> industry. The US should fix their own trade deficit rather than
> picking on China in vain.
>
> David Huang

E coli has nothing to do with the deliberate use of lead and
diethylene glycol in products.

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TOPIC: All porn fanatics eventually turn child molestor
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c1e52502bc4f085a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:22 am
From: Jeff

Beloved Leader wrote:
> On Nov 1, 1:49 pm, Shadowland <saints2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ....
>
>> Like anything other addiction, you build an immunity...need harder
>>stuff...freaker, weirder stuff...
>> forbidden stuff.
>
>
> Wow. You certainly have issues. Good luck finding it.
>
>
>> All these child molesters in the news anymore...where have they all
>>come from ?
>
>
> The implosion of the Republican party.
>
Pretty much. It's that old dichotomy of hidden and repressed guilty
feelings. It often explodes that way. I would think Shadowland is in
line for some moral high ground cruelty.

Jeff

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TOPIC: Nokia N95 Hoodies Sunglasses Nokia N93 Nokia N70 Sony memory card
Mobile Phones
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/31ad94d92b88b185?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:18 am
From: "shopbb.com"

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:24 am
From: "shopbb.com"

Clothing Size:
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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:26 am
From: "shopbb.com"

Clothing Size:
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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko aala
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:44 am
From: "Irish Mike"

I read your post twice and have one question . What the fuck are you talking
about? You sound like a first year student at the Russ G. school of twisted
grammar and mangled communication.

Irish Mike

"Nenad Milicevic" <serbian_sswaffen@trashymail.com> wrote in message
news:1193989280.289079.147490@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Milenko Kindl

Chris Bergin and his brother, Ben, were jamming along to "Message in a
Bottle" on the videogame Guitar Hero 2 during a storm in June when a
bright light flashed and a thunderclap shook their house in Wilton,
Conn.

The lightning strike nearby triggered a power surge that snaked
through the house's electrical system to Mr. Bergin's PlayStation 2
then traveled through the wiring to the plastic guitar controller
pressed up against his stomach.

"I just remember falling to the ground and looking at my brother
'cause he was on the ground, too," says the 15-year-old Mr. Bergin.
The two brothers weren't hurt, but their PlayStation was fried, along
with their laptop computer, television set, cable and phone wiring and
ceiling fan.

More from The Wall Street Journal Online:

· Economists Fear Weak Demand for Homeownership Will Fester

· When It Takes a Miracle to Sell Your House

· Consumers Face Record Heating-Oil Bills

Lightning safety experts, endorsing common sense, have long advised
that indoors is the safest place to be during an electrical storm. The
National Weather Service recently adopted the slogan, "When thunder
roars, go indoors."

But the spread of high-tech devices, including laptops and videogames,
means there are new ways in which people can suffer injuries or
property losses, even in the relative safety of their homes. A
division of Sony Corp., Sony Computer Entertainment America, the maker
of PlayStation products, says it hadn't heard of incidents like this
and says its devices come with safety instructions about lightning.
Activision Inc., which makes the Guitar Hero game, advocates staying
off electronics during storms.

Mark Earley, chief electrical engineer at the National Fire Protection
Association, says the new lightning safety slogan should be modified
slightly: "When thunder roars, stay indoors -- and read a book."

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 10:29 am
From: Don Stockbauer

On Nov 2, 9:44 am, "Irish Mike" <mjos...@ameritech.net> wrote:
> I read your post twice and have one question . What the fuck are you talking
> about? You sound like a first year student at the Russ G. school of twisted
> grammar and mangled communication.
>
> Irish Mike
>
> "Nenad Milicevic" <serbian_sswaf...@trashymail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193989280.289079.147490@z24g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> Milenko Kindl
>
> Chris Bergin and his brother, Ben, were jamming along to "Message in a
> Bottle" on the videogame Guitar Hero 2 during a storm in June when a
> bright light flashed and a thunderclap shook their house in Wilton,
> Conn.
>
> The lightning strike nearby triggered a power surge that snaked
> through the house's electrical system to Mr. Bergin's PlayStation 2
> then traveled through the wiring to the plastic guitar controller
> pressed up against his stomach.
>
> "I just remember falling to the ground and looking at my brother
> 'cause he was on the ground, too," says the 15-year-old Mr. Bergin.
> The two brothers weren't hurt, but their PlayStation was fried, along
> with their laptop computer, television set, cable and phone wiring and
> ceiling fan.
>
> More from The Wall Street Journal Online:
>
> · Economists Fear Weak Demand for Homeownership Will Fester
>
> · When It Takes a Miracle to Sell Your House
>
> · Consumers Face Record Heating-Oil Bills
>
> Lightning safety experts, endorsing common sense, have long advised
> that indoors is the safest place to be during an electrical storm. The
> National Weather Service recently adopted the slogan, "When thunder
> roars, go indoors."
>
> But the spread of high-tech devices, including laptops and videogames,
> means there are new ways in which people can suffer injuries or
> property losses, even in the relative safety of their homes. A
> division of Sony Corp., Sony Computer Entertainment America, the maker
> of PlayStation products, says it hadn't heard of incidents like this
> and says its devices come with safety instructions about lightning.
> Activision Inc., which makes the Guitar Hero game, advocates staying
> off electronics during storms.
>
> Mark Earley, chief electrical engineer at the National Fire Protection
> Association, says the new lightning safety slogan should be modified
> slightly: "When thunder roars, stay indoors -- and read a book."

He prolly listened to "Communication Breakdown" by Led Zeppelin a few
too many times.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:55 am
From: drtedrosenberg@hotmail.com

medicare links list, this list changes weekly

(Also check the Government Agencies section for listings of
healthcare agencies.)

This category includes information about states' aged and disabled
Medicare beneficiaries, such as enrollment, demographics (
http://www.medicarebeneficiaries.com ) Medicare beneficiaries and
providers have certain rights and protections related to financial
liability

Medicare Rights Center acohen@medicarerights.org ) ( http://www.medicarerights.org
) Low income issues (esp SPAPs)

Medicare information ( http://www.medicare.gov )

( http://www.medicare.gov ) - MEDICARE

1999 Medicare Overpayments Estimated At $13.5 Billion (
http://www.medicareoverpayments.com )

Consumer health information from the Harvard Medical School as well as
the University of Pennsylvania's School of Dental Medicine is found at
the InteliHealth site ( http://www.InteliHealth.com ). Click on
anything from "Allergies" to "Weight Management" for useful
information. This is an active site with discussions on current topics
of interest. InteliHealth is a subsidiary of Aetna-U.S. Healthcare,
and 150 top healthcare organizations contribute to the site.

Medicare and MediGap Supplemental Insurance ( http://www.medicareandmedigap.com
) Health economists estimate that seniors with both Medicare and
Medigap spend about 30 percent more on health care than those with
Medicare alone

A free website sponsored by HealthMetrix Research, Inc. (
http://www.hmos4seniors.com ) offers independent cost comparisons for
Medicare HMOs. Enter your ZIP code and search, or search by the name
of a city. Over 100 Medicare HMOs are listed, from Aetna-U.S.
Healthcare to WellCare. The site includes "Tips for Selecting a
Medicare HMO" as well as links to other Medicare websites and
Frequently Asked Questions (and answers).

Medicare Part D Information. Consumer Alert. Medicare Beneficiaries
Urged to be on the Look-out for Phone Scams ( http://www.medicarepartdinformation.com
) - Includes new CMS Part D Reference Guide for Pharmacists. Medicare
Part D - Resources & Links

Center for Medicare Advocacy Tedelman@medicareadvocacy.org ) (
http://www.medicareadvocacy.org )

The official U.S. government site for Medicare information (
http://www.medicare.gov ) covers the basics of Medicare, information
to help you choose a nursing home, publications, helpful contacts,
information on how to recognize and prevent fraud and abuse. Health
plans and nursing homes in your area can be compared. Medicare
participating physicians in your area are listed, as well as
prescription assistance programs.

Medicare reform policy in the 106th Congress, a watchdog report
( http://www.medicarereformpolicy.com )

Maryland's HealthChoice Homepage ( http://www.dhmh.state.md.us/healthchoice
)

Alliance for Health Reform Nonpartisan organization that conducts
research on a variety of health care issues, including children's
health, Medicare, and the cost and availability of health care. 1900 L
St., NW, Suite 512 Washington, D.C. 20036 phone: (202) 466-5626 fax:
(202) 466-6525 ( http://www.allhealth.org )

National Council on Aging ( http://www.ncoa.org ) Nonprofit group does
research on aging issues and legislation on healthcare for the aging.
Also engages in healthcare advocacy.

This calculator allows users to enter their prescription drug costs to
determine what they will pay,
Useful to calculate your medicare benefits ( http://www.medicareprescriptiondrugcalculator.com
)

Pharmacy Information Network ( http://www.PharmInfo.com ) Latest
development in pharmaceuticals. Links to websites for specific
diseases and treatments. Discussion groups. Glossary of pharmaceutical
terms is provided.

Families USA dmahan@familiesusa.org ) ( http://www.familiesusa.org
) Enrollment/ disenrollment; late fees; plan marketing Formularies
Appeals/Grievances Industry relations (PDP conflicts)

Your Medicare rights ( http://www.medicarerights.org )

( http://www.maprx.info - Medicare Access for patients RX

Yahoo Health Directory (dir.yahoo.com )/health) A good place to start
your search for health information.

American Cancer Society ( http://www.cancer.org ) Index on site
provides links to information on care and treatment of cancer.

Wayne State University Institute of Gerontology - ( http://www.iog.wayne.edu
)/
Information useful to those interested in geriatrics, the process of
aging and services for the elderly. Designed for researchers,
educators, practitioners, and the general public. Includes description
of programs and courses, calendar of events, and tips.

We explain ( http://www.medicareandinsurance.com ) the Medicare
insurance plans that fill the gaps of Medicare and the benefits,
everyone with Medicare Insurance can get prescription drug advantage
coverage that may help lower prescription drug costs

Benefits Check-up ( http://www.benefitscheckup.org ) (for senior
citizens)

National Osteoporosis Foundation ( http://www.nof.org ) Prevention and
treatment.

( http://www.healthgrades.com ) provides ratings of doctors, dentists,
hospitals, nursing homes, assisted living residences and health plans.

The Access to Benefits Coalition Web site, ( http://www.accesstobenefits.org
), can help you see if you're eligible for low-income help and can
direct you to other resources.

Wayne State University Institute of Gerontology
Information useful to those interested in geriatrics, the process of
aging and services for the elderly. Designed for researchers,
educators, practitioners, and the general public. Includes description
of programs and courses, calendar of events, and tips. ( http://www.iog.wayne.edu
)

Projected Early Medicare Bankruptcy Underscores Importance of
Immediate Retirement Planning for All Americans
( http://www.medicarebankruptcy.com ) postponed Medicare's bankruptcy
to around 2015 - when the huge Baby Boom generation starts retiring

AgeNet.com - ( http://www.agenet.com )
Health and drug information specific to seniors including online
senior drugs reviews of commonly prescribed drugs for the elderly.

Extremely complex and changing constantly, Medicare payment policy
will drive $479 billion in health spending in 2008 ( http://www.medicarepaymentpolicy.com
)

The Eldercare Locator, a service of the Administration on Aging, has
dedicated a section of its Web site to helping those with Medicare
understand the new drug benefit. That section can be found at (
http://www.eldercare.gov/Eldercare/Public/medicare.asp. )

Therubins.com - ( http://www.therubins.com )
Health, medical and social information of interest to the elderly.

The Medicare prescription drug benefit ( http://www.medicarebenefitsforprescriptiondrugs.com
) This line includes Medicare benefits for prescription drugs and
catastrophic coverage

Network Of Care - ( http://www.networkofcare.org )/
Community-based resources and tools for seniors, people with
disabilities, caregivers and service providers.

Eligibility for Medicare Disability Benefits: For adults aged 18 to
64, eligibility for Medicare is tied to eligibility for Social
Security Disability Income (SSDI) benefits ( http://www.eligibilityformedicare.com
)

ElderHope, LLC - ( http://www.elderhope.com )
Provides information, support, links and book recommendations to the
elderly, their caregivers, and the bereaved.

Summary of the latest report for the Social Security and Medicare
programs ( http://www.socialsecurityandmedicare.com ) The Impact of
Social Security and Medicare on the Federal Budget

Helpguide: Lifelong Wellness - ( http://www.helpguide.org )/
aging_well.htm
Describes the aging process, discusses myths, statistics, and
problems, and suggests ways of maintaining health into old age.

Senior Health Insurance Benefits Assistance program (
http://www.benefitsassistanceprogram.com ) Benefits Assistance program
provides education and information about Medicare

Senior Health Week - ( http://www.seniorhealthweek.org )/
News and information for seniors.

medicare prescription drug bill ( http://www.prescriptiondrugbill.com
) R 108 1st U.S. House of Representatives 669 H R 1 House prescription
drug bill offers skimpy benefits to seniors.

Seniors Resource Guide - ( http://www.seniorsresourceguide.com
A guide to senior services and resources on healthcare providers,
housing options, emergency services, community resources, and
professional articles on aging.

New Medicare Reimbursement Rule - step-by-step, easy-to-understand
explanation of a complicated Medicare reimbursement rule (
http://www.medicarereimbursementrule.com )

Mental Health and Aging - ( http://www.mhaging.org )/
This site will assist older adults and their families in obtaining
appropriate mental health and aging services, and teach them how to
advocate to get their needs met.

information about states' aged and disabled Medicare beneficiaries,
such as enrollment ( http://www.medicarebeneficiaries.com ) 380000
Medicare beneficiaries signing up each week

Senior Connections - ( http://www.seniorconnections-va.org )
Resources for seniors and their caregivers in Virginia

A Medicare HMO is a viable option for those who wish to limit their
out of pocket medical expenses
( http://www.medicarehmosearch.com ) free medicare hmo annual cost
comparisons for seniors

Lifesphere Retirement Communities - ( http://www.lifesphere.org )
A not-for-profit family of services that offers exceptional retirement
community living, home-delivered services, senior centers, a radio
station, consulting services in Ohio.

Elderly Medicare, Medicaid Patients Not Receiving Quality Care
( http://www.elderlymedicare.com ) Those who are 85 or older are the
fastest-growing age group among elderly Medicare beneficiaries

SeniorWorld Online - ( http://www.seniorworld.com )r1997719225113/
a_c1997x23456781.html
A directory of health, fitness, and nutrition for seniors.

Whether to enroll in a Medicare drug prescription plan depends upon
what kind of coverage, if any, you have
( http://www.medicaredrugprescriptionplan.com ) join a Medicare Drug
Prescription Plan. If you have. both Medicare and Medi-Cal, you can
enroll in a plan that covers you

Keiser Institute on Aging - ( http://www.keiserinstituteonaging.com
Information on the enhancement of older adult wellness by changing the
perceptions of aging and improving the quality of life.

transfer health-care costs from companies to the government (
http://www.coalitiononmedicare.com )

Avoiding Slips, Trips and Broken Hips - ( http://www.preventinghomefalls.gov
).uk/
Supports the ongoing UK Department of Trade and Industry campaign on
falls prevention aimed at older people in the home.

Senior Health Week News and information for seniors. ( http://www.seniorhealthweek.org
) Site info for seniorhealthweek.org

The Medicare Medicaid Assistance Program ( http://www.medicaremedicaidassistanceprogram.com
) is available to help seniors and caregivers make informed decisions,
health benefit counseling service for Medicare and Medicaid
beneficiaries

Senior One Source - ( http://www.senioronesource.com )

MedlinePlus: Senior Health Listings on physicians, nutrition, drug
trials and caregiver support for seniors.
( http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/seniorshealthgeneral.html ) Site
info for nih.gov

Medicare is a critically important source of health insurance for 43
million Americans ( http://www.healthmedicare.net ) How Medicare works

Research into Ageing This national registered charity in the UK
furthers medical research in healthy aging at universities, hospitals
and medical schools. Current research programs, newsletter,
fundraising and links. Free pamphlets. "Exercise for Healthy Ageing"
book and "More Active - More Often" video available for purchase.
( http://www.ageing.org ) Site info for ageing.org

Medicaid enrollment among elderly medicare beneficiaries (
http://www.elderlymedicare.com ) Medicaid enrollment among elderly
medicare beneficiaries: individual determinants, effects of state
policy, and impact on service use

( http://www.medicare.org ) - online databases and drug searches

( http://www.prescriptiondrughelpline.com ) - for Medicare
Beneficiaries. Prescription Drug Helpline is a service for Aging
Groups. Helpline counselors are available to provide assistance.

Alzheimer Web (werple.mira.net ).au/~dhs/ad.html) Resource for
research on Alzheimer's disease, including care and support for
victims.

Enrollment in the private Medicare plans has been growing rapidly,
here is a list of them: ( ( http://( http://www.privatemedicareplans.com
)

The Medicine Program ( http://www.themedicineprogram.com ) (free
prescription program)

Pennsylvania Institute on Aging ( http://www.health.upenn.edu )/
partners) University of Pennsylvania Health Care System's site. The
"Institute on Aging" section provides information on holistic health,
end-of-life care, Alzheimer's disease and ways the elderly can improve
their health.

MedlinePlus: Senior Health - ( http://www.nlm.nih.gov )/medlineplus/
seniorshealthgeneral.html
Listings on physicians, nutrition, drug trials and caregiver support
for seniors.

( http://www.medicarerights.org ) - Medicare Rights Center

AgeNet.com Health and drug information specific to seniors including
online senior drugs reviews of commonly prescribed drugs for the
elderly. ( http://www.agenet.com )

Sunrise Assisted Living Inc. - ( http://www.sunriseassistedliving.com
)
Owns and operates assisted living facilities which provide basic care
and services to elderly. Features corporate, financial, and invstor
data. (Nasdaq: SNRZ).

Find in-depth information to help you choose the best Medicare Plan
and Drug Benefits for you ( http://www.medicareplansanddrugbenefits.com
) consequences of caps on Medicare drug benefits

The National Advisory Council on Aging - ( http://www.naca-ccnta.ca/
The NACA is a Canadian federal government organization.

Low Cost Medicare Prescription Drug Plans ( http://www.lowcostmedicare.com
) low cost Medicare products and new prescription drug benefit.

Action for Healthy Aging and Elderly Care - ( http://www.healthandage.com
)
The Novartis Foundation for Gerontological Research. Areas of interest
to physicians and researchers, other healthcare professionals, and
patients. Weekly news updates from Reuter's Health Information.
Patient area topics include impaired mobility and nutrition. The Ask
the Expert forum is free to view, but does require registration if you
wish to participate.

Helpguide: Lifelong Wellness Describes the aging process, discusses
myths, statistics, and problems, and suggests ways of maintaining
health into old age. ( http://www.helpguide.org/aging_well.htm )
Site info for helpguide.org

The Patient Education Forum The American Geriatrics Society. Aging
FAQ. ( http://www.americangeriatrics.org/education/forum/index.shtml )
Site info for americangeriatrics.org

Step by step information to help you understand the Medicare Part D
prescription drug plan and help you as you review plan options
( http://www.medicarepartddrugplan.com ) Discounts to Medicare Part D
Drug Plan. Insurers adding new bells and whistles to attract senior
citizens

Staying Healthy at 50+ - ( http://www.ahrq.gov )/ppip/50plus/
AHRQ consumer information on ways people age 50 and older can stay
healthy, tips on living habits, to help prevent disease, screening
tests, and immunizations.

Understanding Your Health Plan Don't wait until you need health care
to understand your health plan coverage
( http://www.healthplanlist.com )

Senior One Source Referral service and magazine designed to help
seniors achieve a healthier life.
( http://www.senioronesource.com ) Site info for senioronesource.com

The Social Security Administration: ( http://www.ssa.gov/prescriptionhelp
)

Our Senior Years Health Topics - ( http://www.oursenioryears.com
)health.html
Articles on multiple health concerns for senior citizens, written by
doctors and nurses.

Senate panel OKs $35B increase for kids' health care - Bush to Veto
Kids' Health Plan ( http://www.kidshealthplan.net )

The Patient Education Forum - ( http://www.americangeriatrics.org )/
education/forum/index.shtml
The American Geriatrics Society. Aging FAQ.

Provides health insurance coverage for those individuals who cannot
obtain health insurance coverage elsewhere ( http://www.healthplanhome.com
)

Baltimore Health Care Access ( http://www.bhca.org )

Jannsen Eldercare - ( http://www.janssen-eldercare.com )
Information and resources on medical conditions related to aging,
health insurance, Medicare, and nursing homes for the health care
professional, consumer and caregiver.

Managing the Risks of Service to Seniors ( http://www.servicetoseniors.com
) Excellent resource on service to seniors

EPSDT/SSI/Medicare ( http://www.partoparvt.org )

When Does Someone Attain Old Age? The Ohio Department of Aging, Senior
Series. SS-101-96. ( http://www.ohioline.osu.edu/ss-fact/0101.html )
Site info for osu.edu

Aging Issues Message Board - ( http://www.healthboards.com )aging-
issues/
Forum on the process and affects of aging.

Pro-Ops Articles on common health conditions in senior citizens.
( http://www.member.rivernet.com.au/balehirs/Bishyp7dHealth.htm ) Site
info for rivernet.com.au

Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services ( http://www.hcfa.gov )

Alzheimer's health plan debuts -- Internet Source Alzheimer's
sufferers in the Valley will have access to the nation's first
Medicare health plan ( http://www.alzheimershealthplan.com )

Pfizer for Living - ( http://www.pfizerforliving.com )
Offering personalized articles, health management tools and health
information. Requires free registration.

SeniorWorld Online A directory of health, fitness, and nutrition for
seniors. ( http://www.seniorworld.com/r1997719225113/a_c1997x23456781.htm
) ... Site info for seniorworld.com

Senate Passes Child Health Measure ( http://www.childhealthmeasure.com
) The Senate passed a bill to provide coverage for 10 million
youngsters after efforts to find a veto-proof bipartisan compromise in
the House were cut short. Congress Set for Veto Fight on Child Health
Measure

National Health Law Program ( http://www.healthlaw.org )

The Resource Directory for older people ( http://www.aoa.gov )/
directory) is published by the National Institute on Aging and the
Administration on Aging. It contains links to hundreds of websites.
You can browse through its alphabetical Index by Topic ("A" begins
with Adult Day Care...African-American Health...Aging
Research...AIDS...). If you want to visit an organization's website,
it will be in a list of groups. Appendices include one on state
agencies for the aging and another on state long-term care ombudsman
programs. Intended for a wide audience, this site provides names,
addresses and FAX numbers for health and social welfare experts and
organizations. NOTE: A print version of The Resource Directory is
available by calling 1-800-222-2225.

Healthy Aging(r) Campaign Healthy Aging(r) is a national, ongoing,
health promotion designed to broaden awareness of the positive aspects
of aging and to provide inspiration to adults, ages 50 plus, to
improve their physical, mental, social and financial health. (
http://healthyaging.net )

ThirdAge Health - ( http://www.thirdage.com )health/
Starting point for people over 40 for information about a healthy life
and life style.

( http://www.medicarepaymentprogram.com )

Care Pathways - ( http://www.carepathways.com )
Provides families and health professionals with details of the care
options available in the USA, as well as offering support, needs
assessment, and product sales.

privately run health plans that provide coverage for about 7 million
senior citizens ( http://www.medicareoversight.com ) Medicare fraud
claims are suspected to be about $35 billion a year

Lumetra - ( http://www.lumetra.com )
Information on Medicare for beneficiaries, their families and
providers.

ElderHope, LLC Provides information on Alzheimer s Disease, grief,
medical ethics, aging, and caregiving for families, professionals, and
patients. ( http://www.elderhope.com ) Site info for elderhope.com

You can add drug coverage to the traditional Medicare plan through a
"stand alone" prescription drug plan
( http://www.medicareplanfordrugbenefits.com ) Medicare beneficiaries
are eligible for the extra help if they have limited income and
resources

The Medicare Access for Patients-RX is a coalition of patient, family
caregiver, and health professional organizations committed to
safeguarding patients with chronic diseases and disabilities under the
new Medicare prescription drug coverage. The site, at ( http://www.maprx.info
), has numerous links, both general and state-specific, that can put
you in touch with organizations that might be able to help you sort
through plan choices.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:57 am
From: Ludi Duke

Milenko Kindl

COLUMBIA, S.C. - President Bush, worried about losing his fight to get
Michael Mukasey installed as attorney general, pleaded again Friday
for confirmation despite the former judge's refusal to be pinned down
on the legality of waterboarding.
ADVERTISEMENT

"He's a good man. He's a fair man. He's an independent man, and he's
plenty qualified to be attorney general," Bush said of Mukasey, just
after landing here.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a member of the Judiciary Committee who is
backing the embattled judge, joined Bush on a South Carolina airport
tarmac for the presidential statement.

It was the second day in a row that Bush has pleaded with senators to
approve the man he chose to succeed Alberto Gonzales as the nation's
top law enforcement official.

A day earlier, Bush warned that the Justice Department would go
without a leader in a time of war if Democrats thwarted Mukasey. The
president was in South Carolina to help raise money for Graham's re-
election and make a speech about the war against terrorism.

Bush said Thursday that if the Judiciary Committee were to block
Mukasey because of his noncommittal stance on the legality of the
interrogation procedure that simulates drowning, it would set a new
standard for confirmation that could not be met by any responsible
nominee for attorney general.

Graham's public vow of support in the president's company came as
opposition continued to grow in the Senate.

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, D-Mass., on Thursday became the fourth of 10
Democrats on the 19-member Judiciary Committee to declare he would
vote against the former judge when the panel decides Tuesday whether
to endorse or reject Mukasey.

Kennedy said that Mukasey's unwillingness to equate the interrogation
practice of waterboarding with torture increases the chances that it
will be used against U.S. troops.

Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., planned to announce
Friday in his state how he will vote next week.

There is a way for Mukasey to get a full Senate vote even if committee
Democrats are united in opposing him. The Senate Judiciary Committee
could agree to advance the nomination with "no recommendation,"
allowing Mukasey the chance to be confirmed by a majority of the 100-
member Senate. Several vote-counters in each party said Mukasey
probably would get 70 "yes" votes in such a scenario.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 3:18 pm
From: Martin Griffith

On Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:57:37 -0700, in sci.electronics.design Ludi
Duke <i.dunjic@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Milenko Kindl
>
>COLUMBIA, S.C. - President Bush,

Ok we know he is an idiot, but can you please stop posting to
sci.electronics design, and you always do it 3 times, you are an idiot
as well.

Sci.electronics design is a professional newsgroup, only concerned
with electronics, and other methods of deforestation

Politics are rarely discussed in sci.electroncs.design

Martin

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:58 am
From: Ludi Duke

Milenko Kindl

"He's a good man. He's a fair man. He's an independent man, and he's
plenty qualified to be attorney general," Bush said of Mukasey, just
after landing here.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a member of the Judiciary Committee who is
backing the embattled judge, joined Bush on a South Carolina airport
tarmac for the presidential statement.

It was the second day in a row that Bush has pleaded with senators to
approve the man he chose to succeed Alberto Gonzales as the nation's
top law enforcement official.

Graham's public vow of support in the president's company came as
opposition continued to grow in the Senate.

Kennedy said that Mukasey's unwillingness to equate the interrogation
practice of waterboarding with torture increases the chances that it
will be used against U.S. troops.

Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., planned to announce
Friday in his state how he will vote next week.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 9:59 am
From: Ludi Duke

Milenko Kindl

"He's a good man. He's a fair man. He's an independent man, and he's
plenty qualified to be attorney general," Bush said of Mukasey, just
after landing here.

Sen. Lindsey Graham, a member of the Judiciary Committee who is
backing the embattled judge, joined Bush on a South Carolina airport
tarmac for the presidential statement.

It was the second day in a row that Bush has pleaded with senators to
approve the man he chose to succeed Alberto Gonzales as the nation's
top law enforcement official.

Graham's public vow of support in the president's company came as
opposition continued to grow in the Senate.

Kennedy said that Mukasey's unwillingness to equate the interrogation
practice of waterboarding with torture increases the chances that it
will be used against U.S. troops.

Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., planned to announce
Friday in his state how he will vote next week.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 3:10 pm
From: zaman_2756@yahoo.com

Due to severe depression I am unable to work,And the benefits I'm
on,such as income support don't cover my bills,hence I have fallen
into debt. Does anyone know of any easy ways of making extra money?
I'm thinking along the lines of medical trials,which can earn you upto
500 pounds,just for sitting around playing pool and surfing the net.
The only problem is that these trials use pharmaceutical drugs which
can cause permanent damage to your body,hence I have ruled them out.
I have considered becoming a 'mystery shopper', but due to my
depression I don't really have the energy to visit shops.
So, can anyone do me a favour and think of a relatively easy way of
making money? (by the way I'm in Birmingham,England).

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 3:26 pm
From: BoredToTears

On 2 Nov, 22:10, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:

<snip>

Last time you wanted people to send you sleeping meds and before that
you posted a very similar question to this latest one, about taking
part in medical trials. Just stop trolling, eh? We're not that dumb.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 3:36 pm
From: zaman_2756@yahoo.com

On 2 Nov, 22:26, BoredToTears <beejayce...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 2 Nov, 22:10, zaman_2...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Last time you wanted people to send you sleeping meds and before that
> you posted a very similar question to this latest one, about taking
> part in medical trials. Just stop trolling, eh? We're not that dumb.

First off,kudos to you for being able to remember my old posts. But I
really am not a troll at all. I suffer from severe OCD and
depression,almost every waking moment is very uncomfortable, I simply
don't have the energy to engage in such childish persuits as trolling.

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TOPIC: Milenko Kindl Cvrcko fefj0jrijijo
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:03 am
From: Nenad Milicevic - Arijevac

Milenko Kindl

MEXICO CITY (AFP) - Most of Mexico's southern state of Tabasco was
underwater Thursday, as hundreds of thousands of people waited for
rescuers to pull them out of their homes in the worst floods ever in
the region.

The floods that began last week now cover 80 percent of Tabasco, a
state about the size of Belgium, affecting about one million people
and killing at least one person, officials said.

"Of the 2.1 million Tabasquenos, more than half are suffering from
this serious problem that has not been experienced in the history of
Tabasco," Governor Andres Granier told reporters.

About 30,000 people were placed in 256 state shelters while 300,000
remain trapped in flooded homes, waiting for military helicopters and
boats to rescue them, the state government said in a statement.

More than 850 towns have been flooded in the Gulf of Mexico state.

"The amount of water is shocking," said the governor of the 29,000
square kilometer (11,000 square mile) state. "100 percent of crops are
lost."

"The state is devastated," Granier said.

About 400 doctors and health workers have been deployed to more than
300 towns to detect any outbreak of infections, according to the
state's Civil Protection agency.

State officials warned that rivers continued to rise one week after
the first flooding started.

"The overflow caused by the heavy rains that continue to hit the
region allows us to say 500 cubic meters (of water) has been added" to
the flooding, Tabasco government under secretary Juan Molina told
Formato 21 radio.

The floods began last week when a cold front brought heavy rain that
caused rivers to break their banks.

Soldiers and state authorities had placed more than 700,000 sand bags
along the rivers to prevent flooding, but the water rose above the
barriers.

The floods worsened over the past three days as authorities drained
water from two dams in the neighboring state of Chiapas to prevent
them from exceeding their capacity. The drainage caused three Tabasco
rivers to burst their banks.

The water rose again Thursday in the state capital of Villahermosa,
which was flooded Wednesday after the Grijalva River burst its banks.

But hundreds of Villahermosa residents refused to leave their flooded
homes amid reports of looting in the city of 750,000 people.

"There's no policing," a woman living in Villahermosa told reporters.
"The thieves climb on the roofs and open the doors through there."

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:04 am
From: Nenad Milicevic - Arijevac

Milenko Kindl

The floods that began last week now cover 80 percent of Tabasco, a
state about the size of Belgium, affecting about one million people
and killing at least one person, officials said.

"Of the 2.1 million Tabasquenos, more than half are suffering from
this serious problem that has not been experienced in the history of
Tabasco," Governor Andres Granier told reporters.

More than 850 towns have been flooded in the Gulf of Mexico state.

"The amount of water is shocking," said the governor of the 29,000
square kilometer (11,000 square mile) state. "100 percent of crops are
lost."

"The state is devastated," Granier said.

About 400 doctors and health workers have been deployed to more than
300 towns to detect any outbreak of infections, according to the
state's Civil Protection agency.

State officials warned that rivers continued to rise one week after
the first flooding started.

The floods began last week when a cold front brought heavy rain that
caused rivers to break their banks.

Soldiers and state authorities had placed more than 700,000 sand bags
along the rivers to prevent flooding, but the water rose above the
barriers.

The water rose again Thursday in the state capital of Villahermosa,
which was flooded Wednesday after the Grijalva River burst its banks.

But hundreds of Villahermosa residents refused to leave their flooded
homes amid reports of looting in the city of 750,000 people.

"There's no policing," a woman living in Villahermosa told reporters.
"The thieves climb on the roofs and open the doors through there."

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:05 am
From: Nenad Milicevic - Arijevac

Milenko Kindl

The floods that began last week now cover 80 percent of Tabasco, a
state about the size of Belgium, affecting about one million people
and killing at least one person, officials said.

"Of the 2.1 million Tabasquenos, more than half are suffering from
this serious problem that has not been experienced in the history of
Tabasco," Governor Andres Granier told reporters.

More than 850 towns have been flooded in the Gulf of Mexico state.

"The amount of water is shocking," said the governor of the 29,000
square kilometer (11,000 square mile) state. "100 percent of crops are
lost."

"The state is devastated," Granier said.

About 400 doctors and health workers have been deployed to more than
300 towns to detect any outbreak of infections, according to the
state's Civil Protection agency.

State officials warned that rivers continued to rise one week after
the first flooding started.

The floods began last week when a cold front brought heavy rain that
caused rivers to break their banks.

Soldiers and state authorities had placed more than 700,000 sand bags
along the rivers to prevent flooding, but the water rose above the
barriers.

The water rose again Thursday in the state capital of Villahermosa,
which was flooded Wednesday after the Grijalva River burst its banks.

But hundreds of Villahermosa residents refused to leave their flooded
homes amid reports of looting in the city of 750,000 people.

"There's no policing," a woman living in Villahermosa told reporters.
"The thieves climb on the roofs and open the doors through there."

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:41 am
From: Nenad Milicevic

Milenko Kindl

More from The Wall Street Journal Online:

· Economists Fear Weak Demand for Homeownership Will Fester

· When It Takes a Miracle to Sell Your House

· Consumers Face Record Heating-Oil Bills

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 1:26 am
From: rsaiyed40@gmail.com

On Nov 2, 12:41 pm, Nenad Milicevic <serbian_sswaf...@trashymail.com>
wrote:
> Milenko Kindl
>
> Chris Bergin and his brother, Ben, were jamming along to "Message in a
> Bottle" on the videogame Guitar Hero 2 during a storm in June when a
> bright light flashed and a thunderclap shook their house in Wilton,
> Conn.
>
> The lightning strike nearby triggered a power surge that snaked
> through the house's electrical system to Mr. Bergin's PlayStation 2
> then traveled through the wiring to the plastic guitar controller
> pressed up against his stomach.
>
> "I just remember falling to the ground and looking at my brother
> 'cause he was on the ground, too," says the 15-year-old Mr. Bergin.
> The two brothers weren't hurt, but their PlayStation was fried, along
> with their laptop computer, television set, cable and phone wiring and
> ceiling fan.
>
> More from The Wall Street Journal Online:
>
> · Economists Fear Weak Demand for Homeownership Will Fester
>
> · When It Takes a Miracle to Sell Your House
>
> · Consumers Face Record Heating-Oil Bills
>
> Lightning safety experts, endorsing common sense, have long advised
> that indoors is the safest place to be during an electrical storm. The
> National Weather Service recently adopted the slogan, "When thunder
> roars, go indoors."
>
> But the spread of high-tech devices, including laptops and videogames,
> means there are new ways in which people can suffer injuries or
> property losses, even in the relative safety of their homes. A
> division of Sony Corp., Sony Computer Entertainment America, the maker
> of PlayStation products, says it hadn't heard of incidents like this
> and says its devices come with safety instructions about lightning.
> Activision Inc., which makes the Guitar Hero game, advocates staying
> off electronics during storms.
>
> Mark Earley, chief electrical engineer at the National Fire Protection
> Association, says the new lightning safety slogan should be modified
> slightly: "When thunder roars, stay indoors -- and read a book."

send me tech. inform. and photos

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 12:41 am
From: Nenad Milicevic

Milenko Kindl

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· Economists Fear Weak Demand for Homeownership Will Fester

· When It Takes a Miracle to Sell Your House

· Consumers Face Record Heating-Oil Bills

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 2:28 am
From: Nenad Milicevic

Milenko Kindl

More from The Wall Street Journal Online:

· Economists Fear Weak Demand for Homeownership Will Fester

· When It Takes a Miracle to Sell Your House

· Consumers Face Record Heating-Oil Bills

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 4:25 am
From: Jon v Leipzig

Chloe wrote:
> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
> news:xsidnY0RSrjvx7fanZ2dnUVZ_tuonZ2d@comcast.com...
>> Chloe wrote:
>>> "timeOday" <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ULednRXBkLlnjLfanZ2dnUVZ_qTinZ2d@comcast.com...
>>>> Goomba38 wrote:
>>>>> rick++ wrote:
>>>>>> Frugal is paying the lowest for basic functionallity,
>>>>>> not the highest luxury you can get for a given cost
>>>>>> in my opinion. If burlap would do the job, and it was
>>>>>> avialabel and chepest, then I'd use that.
>>>>>>
>>>>> You are mistaken, IMO. Frugality is deciding what you want and getting
>>>>> it for the best price. It is not imposing your lowest acceptable level
>>>>> of quality or functionality on others.
>>>> I agree with your definition.
>>>>
>>>> However, sheets are a matter of personal taste. Why do I want "silky"
>>>> sheets? I don't wear silky shirts, most days. So instead of worrying
>>>> about thread count, why not just feel all the different sheets at the
>>>> store and buy the cheapest ones you like?
>>> If you don't care how long they last, and by that I mean how long it is
>>> before they develop large rips and tears, then sure, go with cheapest.
>> Are you sure higher thread count equates to durability? I would think
>> weaving in a little poly would make sheets last for a long time. Or
>> that different fabrics might use different weight threads. But I'm no
>> expert.
>
> Pretty good article here: note the final paragraph on the second page
>
> http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Moms/story?id=1751253&page=1
>
> and
>
> http://reviews.ebay.com/TRUTH-ABOUT-THREAD-COUNT-EGYPTIAN-COTTON-SHEETS-BED-SET_W0QQugidZ10000000001274215
>

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 4:30 am
From: Jon v Leipzig

cbielich@yahoo.com wrote:
> So basically this site sucks. Let me tell you the main reason why.
> THEY ARE COMMUNISTS.......
>
> Yes they are communists - people why in the world are we going to
> support a site like this in the US. STOP USING CRAIGLIST. Dont believe
> me? just read this right off their site about their CEO.
>
> http://www.craigslist.org/about/jim.buckmaster.html
>
> Yeah I was dumbfounded too when I read that after using craigslist for
> about a year. I will never use it again. Instead I use askorfind.com.
> Basically same thing but they are not communists.
>
> IF YOU ARE A US CITIZEN IN THIS COUNTRY YOU SHOULD NOT USE
> CRAIGSLIST.COM
>

Imo,there's so few of them left, they're really quite harmless.

Could be worse, he could be a greedy capitalist and charge for ads.

Even the "commie" Chinese are becoming $$Capitalists$$, and lovin it.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 4:42 am
From: Jon v Leipzig

The Real Bev wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Rod Speed wrote:
>>>> The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Rick wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If anyone wants to seriously consider doing it though visit the
>>>>>> group: alt.config
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to begin the proposal process.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTDT and the group was created. It's alive and the moderators pay
>>>>> attention, but it doesn't get used much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spam isn't the problem with usenet, it's the loons. Check out what
>>>>> happened to rec.bicycles.off-road.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spam is easy to recognize and skip. Loons can be killfiled (dear
>>>>> lord when will thunderbird get REAL filters for newsgroups, making
>>>>> it possible to eliminate any postings originating from googlegroups?).
>>
>>>> Trouble is that there is plenty of non spam from groups.google now.
>>
>>> Perhaps.
>>
>> No perhaps about it, presumably because its easier to
>> setup than a conventional news client and news server.
>
> People who are unwilling or too dumb to do something a better way aren't
> likely to say anything I want to hear.
>
>>> Sleep with dogs, wake up with fleas.
>>
>> A rolling stone gathers no moss.
>>
>>> I'm willing to make the sacrifice.
>>
>> It makes more sense to just ignore the spam. It isnt hard to work out
>> what is spam.
>
> Of course not, but if you've skipped your usenet obligations for a few
> weeks, the sheer quantity is annoying.
>

Your own fault. Who authorized your three week absence, anyway...???

Hey, we finally got a Trader Joe's here, intown, even!! It should be
quieted down by now, I missed the Grand opening.

Never been to one...got any suggestions,..,,what to buy or to avoid...??

<JonK>
Atlanta,Ga.

"She hasn't run anything, and the government of the United States is
not a place for a president to be an intern." ~MITT ROMNEY

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 4:46 am
From: Jon v Leipzig

Millhaven wrote:
>
> I had been eating nothing but Halloween candy all week and that was
> probably why I was getting pretty constipated. I don't think I went
> since Tuesday. Saturday I had some booze and some real food and felt
> some familiar twinges in my colon right at the party.

Next time, wash the junque down with a sweet potato and large glass of
water.

How about, next time, take a pooper-scooper and "doggie" bag with you.
Do yer biz in the backyard...after marking your turf, of course.

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to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
your car.

Check out the method at:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:IT&item=180175999284&_trksid=p3984.cSELL.m315.lVI

I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
seized.

I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
protection.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 5:31 am
From: "jerryl"

"CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynamics@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1194005840.074560.51490@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
> protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
> to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
> your car.
>
> Check out the method at:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:IT&item=180175999284&_trksid=p3984.cSELL.m315.lVI
>
> I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
> protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
> but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
> broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
> prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
> seized.
>
> I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
> someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
> report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
> protection.
>

Gee, the intellectual info is being sold by someone on Ebay with 0, that's
zero feedback. The item was just placed on Ebay an hour ago and you're
telling us that you already purchased it (there were no bids or buyers on
the item) and saved your car, your house and your underwear. That's great.
Don't you think that your shilling of your own sale is quite obvious and
stupid?

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 5:36 am
From: CollegeDyanmics

On Nov 2, 7:31 am, "jerryl" <j...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> "CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1194005840.074560.51490@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> >I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
> > protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
> > to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
> > your car.
>
> > Check out the method at:
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:I...
>
> > I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
> > protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
> > but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
> > broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
> > prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
> > seized.
>
> > I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
> > someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
> > report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
> > protection.
>
> Gee, the intellectual info is being sold by someone on Ebay with 0, that's
> zero feedback. The item was just placed on Ebay an hour ago and you're
> telling us that you already purchased it (there were no bids or buyers on
> the item) and saved your car, your house and your underwear. That's great.
> Don't you think that your shilling of your own sale is quite obvious and
> stupid?

I bought from him before, he asked me to help him advertise.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:13 am
From: clams casino

CollegeDyanmics wrote:

>
>
>I bought from him before, he asked me to help him advertise.
>
>
>
and spamming newsgroups is against eBay rules - nice way to have his
account removed.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:21 am
From: George Grapman

CollegeDyanmics wrote:
> On Nov 2, 7:31 am, "jerryl" <j...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>> "CollegeDyanmics" <CollegeDynam...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1194005840.074560.51490@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>> I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
>>> protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
>>> to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
>>> your car.
>>> Check out the method at:
>>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:I...
>>> I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
>>> protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
>>> but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
>>> broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
>>> prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
>>> seized.
>>> I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
>>> someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
>>> report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
>>> protection.
>> Gee, the intellectual info is being sold by someone on Ebay with 0, that's
>> zero feedback. The item was just placed on Ebay an hour ago and you're
>> telling us that you already purchased it (there were no bids or buyers on
>> the item) and saved your car, your house and your underwear. That's great.
>> Don't you think that your shilling of your own sale is quite obvious and
>> stupid?
>
> I bought from him before, he asked me to help him advertise.
>
Why did you need to buy it twice?

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:22 am
From: George Grapman

CollegeDyanmics wrote:
> I found an auction on e-bay that is offering a legal method of asset
> protection. It protects your car as well as your cash. Your car needs
> to be protected because, if it is not protected, creditors may seize
> your car.
>
> Check out the method at:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MESEX:IT&item=180175999284&_trksid=p3984.cSELL.m315.lVI
>
> I bought the method from this seller, and it worked for me. It
> protected my car and my bank account. My house still has a lien on it,
> but it is protected from every other creditor besides the mortgage
> broker. I own my car free and clear, and the methods in the report
> prevented a creditor with a judgment against me from having my car
> seized.
>
> I wish I could tell you more, but I don't feel it is right to give
> someone else's intellectual property away. The man who wrote the
> report did extensive research to come up with a legal method of asset
> protection.
>
So you purchased your own product?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 6:56 am
From: fedonnalyne@gmail.com

can anyone can give me a historical supply of bar soap from the year
2000-2004?tnx...

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TOPIC: Alzheimer's preventative ? Pennies a day
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 8:18 am
From: A Veteran

Curcumin has been used for thousands of years as a medicinal preparation
made from turmeric or as turmeric powder used as a preservative and
coloring agent in foods (yellow curry powder). Curcumin was isolated as
the major yellow pigment in turmeric, a pure chemical
(diferulomethane). Curcumin¹s structure is similar to other plant
pigments called polyphenolics (chemicals containing muliple ³phenol²
groups) which often have potent anti-oxidant and anti-inflammatory
properties and associated health benefits. Many similar plant pigments
are known as potent antioxidants, for example, the pigments extracted
from grapes in red wine ( resveratrol), or in green tea (catechins) or
in fruit juices (blueberries, strawberries, pomegranates etc) typically
contain polyphenolic antioxidants and have been studied for their
possible medicinal or preventive value.

Curcumin has been developed by the US National Cancer Institute
(NCI) and academic investigators around the world as a potent
anti-carcinogen. Because of low toxicity and great efficacy in multiple
in vitro and in vivo cancer models, curcumin was selected for further
development, put through extensive toxicology testing and has
successively made it through the first stages (Phase I) of clinical
testing abroad and is currently in clinical trials at several sites in
the U.S. All of this work by many labs has provided the basis to quickly
and safely explore curcumin¹s potential for Alzheimer¹s and other
neurological diseases.

Curcumin has shown efficacy in many other pre-clinical culture and
animal models for diseases related to aging and chronic treatment with
related ³curcuminoids² have even been able to increase the lifespan of
mice.

Curcumin and Alzheimer¹s Disease. Our group has tested curcumin
in several models for Alzheimer¹s and found that it not only reduces
oxidative damage and inflammation (as expected), but also reduces
amyloid accumulation and synaptic marker loss and promotes amyloid
phagocytosis and clearance. Curcumin worked to prevent synaptic marker
and cognitive deficits caused by amyloid peptide infusion and abeta
oligomer toxicity in vitro. Our work on curcumin and AD is discussed in
detail in our publications. and for information on enrolling in a
curcumin trial see trials link .

http://alzheimer.neurology.ucla.edu/Curcumin.html

--
when you believe the only tool you have is a hammer.
All problems look like nails.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 2 2007 7:23 am
From: david_huang2007@hotmail.com

http://www.reuters.com/article/companyNewsAndPR/idUSWNAS984320071101

Totino's and Jeno's pizza recalled due to E. coli

CHICAGO (Reuters) - Almost five million Totino's and Jeno's frozen
pizzas with pepperoni toppings are being recalled because the
pepperoni may be contaminated with E. coli, General Mills Inc said on
Thursday.

General Mills, which owns the Totino's and Jeno's brands, said the
recall affects about 414,000 cases of pizza products currently in
stores and all similar pizza products that might be in consumers'
freezers. Each case contains 12 pizzas.

The possible E. coli contamination was uncovered by state and federal
authorities investigating 21 E. coli-related illnesses in 10 states.

General Mills said nine of the 21 people reported having eaten
Totino's or Jeno's pizza with pepperoni topping at some point before
becoming ill.

The people became ill between July 20 and October 10, the USDA's Food
Safety and Inspection Service said, adding that all the patients
recovered.

The people did not have packages with dates codes or other information
General Mills needs to narrow down which pizzas might be affected,
General Mills spokesman Tom Forsythe said, adding that, for the same
reason, the company could not determine which of its suppliers
provided the pepperoni.

E.coli O157:H7 is a potentially deadly bacteria that can cause bloody
diarrhea and dehydration. The very young, seniors and persons with
compromised immune systems are the most vulnerable to food borne
disease.

The recall includes eight types of Totino's brand frozen pizza and
three types of Jeno's brand frozen pizza with pepperoni topping, or
pepperoni in combination with other toppings.

The frozen pizzas were produced in its Wellston, Ohio, plant and
distributed throughout the United States. The plant is currently
making other pizzas, but not with pepperoni, General Mills spokesman
Tom Forsythe said.

_______________________________________________

You get the message: US made products may be just as bad as Chinese
manufactured ones: So many products may be tainted with E-coli like
last fall's lettuce. Protectionism can go both ways. I'd rather not
have Pelosi and her protectionist congress dumping on China just
because their own consumers prefer Chinese stuff to their own
industry. The US should fix their own trade deficit rather than
picking on China in vain.

David Huang

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