Monday, June 23, 2008

26 new messages in 12 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* CBS News on the economy and grocery shopping - 6 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1ad6efab460db467?hl=en
* Mexico's Gifts to America: Illiterate Peasants, Salmonella, and Disease - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d163fe8dd90dd9d7?hl=en
* Portable Heaters - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3d955918993b2b57?hl=en
* GPS using Laptop - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/33340dc882a32488?hl=en
* Simple ways to make yourself beautiful - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e1fe17a276816681?hl=en
* Inexpensive green products website - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fcbe4fbb7e5c34e0?hl=en
* How many here own food freezer? - 10 messages, 9 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/79858a8bd8f90308?hl=en
* Best site I have seen for free offers - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/c91783f97e9db739?hl=en
* stellenangebote duesseldorf stellenangebot vorstand Physiotherapeut
Physiotherapeutin jobangebote in deutschland - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8db39b704d65d819?hl=en
* Sexies girls wallpaper! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/2bfb79fe9c6ae16c?hl=en
* Cheap, ED hardy T-shirts, COACH Sandals, Pro Bowl NFL jersey, LV Handbags -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/466d895bcf810289?hl=en
* arbeit suchen arbeiten im ausland info job luebeck lehrstellen ausland - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/ffaca6ff1b31f2ad?hl=en

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TOPIC: CBS News on the economy and grocery shopping
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1ad6efab460db467?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 22 2008 10:30 pm
From:
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<hchickpea@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:rkbt54toqs7r2i6ljksbdalgrjha4gn0n4@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:32:48 -0400, <h> wrote:
>
>>Also, although our property/school taxes are some of the highest in the
>>nation (based on home values) the fact that I'm self-employed is what
>>causes
>>my income tax to be so high. My business is the first to be hit when
>>there's
>>a recession, since I don't sell a necessity. Orders have been mighty thin
>>lately. I made $5k less in 2007 than I did in 2006, yet I owed $1k more in
>>taxes with the same deductions. I still don't get that one. My accountant
>>says that it happened to a lot of his business clients last year. Make
>>less,
>>pay more, seems to be the new American Way.
>
> That doesn't sound right. If the difference is that much, I'd at
> least take the data to another accountant for a review.

Funny you should say that. I took my last return to several of those "we'll
review your return for free and find you extra money" places like HR Block,
and all of them had me owing MUCH more than my accountant figured. One
goofus even tried to tell me that I couldn't take the home office deduction
because "The room is too big". Huh? It's not as though I maintain office
space anywhere else. He seemed to think that 22% of my small house is "too
much" to take as a deduction. Well...it's a separate 20'x20' room which is
used only for business and that business is my sole source of income. He
still said I wasn't allowed to take it, unless I used a smaller room. Again,
huh? You should see what's crammed into this room, floor to ceiling. I don't
even include my file cabinets, desk, computer, or mailing supplies storage
in the 22%, because they don't fit into the workroom. And this guy is
prepping taxes for money.


== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 5:17 am
From: George


h wrote:
> <hchickpea@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:rkbt54toqs7r2i6ljksbdalgrjha4gn0n4@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:32:48 -0400, <h> wrote:
>>
>>> Also, although our property/school taxes are some of the highest in the
>>> nation (based on home values) the fact that I'm self-employed is what
>>> causes
>>> my income tax to be so high. My business is the first to be hit when
>>> there's
>>> a recession, since I don't sell a necessity. Orders have been mighty thin
>>> lately. I made $5k less in 2007 than I did in 2006, yet I owed $1k more in
>>> taxes with the same deductions. I still don't get that one. My accountant
>>> says that it happened to a lot of his business clients last year. Make
>>> less,
>>> pay more, seems to be the new American Way.
>> That doesn't sound right. If the difference is that much, I'd at
>> least take the data to another accountant for a review.
>
> Funny you should say that. I took my last return to several of those "we'll
> review your return for free and find you extra money" places like HR Block,
> and all of them had me owing MUCH more than my accountant figured. One
> goofus even tried to tell me that I couldn't take the home office deduction
> because "The room is too big". Huh? It's not as though I maintain office
> space anywhere else. He seemed to think that 22% of my small house is "too
> much" to take as a deduction. Well...it's a separate 20'x20' room which is
> used only for business and that business is my sole source of income. He
> still said I wasn't allowed to take it, unless I used a smaller room. Again,
> huh? You should see what's crammed into this room, floor to ceiling. I don't
> even include my file cabinets, desk, computer, or mailing supplies storage
> in the 22%, because they don't fit into the workroom. And this guy is
> prepping taxes for money.
>
>
But you are comparing apples and oranges. Accountants typically have a
better grasp of stuff. The hr block etc "experts" that set up on a card
table at the big box store went to a couple hours of training and are
just doing a fill in the blanks thing in their computer. Their process
also errs on the conservative side so they will probably never have to
defend their position with the tax collecting body.

You might want to consult with another accountant for the change you
described.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 6:57 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com


On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 08:17:48 -0400, George <george@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>h wrote:
>> <hchickpea@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:rkbt54toqs7r2i6ljksbdalgrjha4gn0n4@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 13:32:48 -0400, <h> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Also, although our property/school taxes are some of the highest in the
>>>> nation (based on home values) the fact that I'm self-employed is what
>>>> causes
>>>> my income tax to be so high. My business is the first to be hit when
>>>> there's
>>>> a recession, since I don't sell a necessity. Orders have been mighty thin
>>>> lately. I made $5k less in 2007 than I did in 2006, yet I owed $1k more in
>>>> taxes with the same deductions. I still don't get that one. My accountant
>>>> says that it happened to a lot of his business clients last year. Make
>>>> less,
>>>> pay more, seems to be the new American Way.
>>> That doesn't sound right. If the difference is that much, I'd at
>>> least take the data to another accountant for a review.
>>
>> Funny you should say that. I took my last return to several of those "we'll
>> review your return for free and find you extra money" places like HR Block,
>> and all of them had me owing MUCH more than my accountant figured. One
>> goofus even tried to tell me that I couldn't take the home office deduction
>> because "The room is too big". Huh? It's not as though I maintain office
>> space anywhere else. He seemed to think that 22% of my small house is "too
>> much" to take as a deduction. Well...it's a separate 20'x20' room which is
>> used only for business and that business is my sole source of income. He
>> still said I wasn't allowed to take it, unless I used a smaller room. Again,
>> huh? You should see what's crammed into this room, floor to ceiling. I don't
>> even include my file cabinets, desk, computer, or mailing supplies storage
>> in the 22%, because they don't fit into the workroom. And this guy is
>> prepping taxes for money.
>>
>>
>But you are comparing apples and oranges. Accountants typically have a
>better grasp of stuff. The hr block etc "experts" that set up on a card
>table at the big box store went to a couple hours of training and are
>just doing a fill in the blanks thing in their computer. Their process
>also errs on the conservative side so they will probably never have to
>defend their position with the tax collecting body.
>
>You might want to consult with another accountant for the change you
>described.

I'd agree with that, and add that if you aren't already a subchapter S
corp., you should strongly consider it.

BTW, quiet around here the last few days. Have the google spammers
figured out they no longer have an audience???

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 7:20 am
From: "Evelyn C. Leeper"


Anthony Matonak wrote:
> lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:
>> This includes at least one video.
>>
>> http://search.cbsnews.com/?source=cbs&q=saving+money+food
>
> The two biggest parts of anyones budget these days is housing
> and transportation. It would make more sense to save lots of
> money on those two first and have a little extra to spend on
> food than the other way around.

Yes, but if you already have a house and a car, moving and/or buying a
new car may not be possible at the time, whereas you can try to save on
food starting now.

--
Evelyn C. Leeper
A great many people think they are thinking when they are
only rearranging their prejudices. -William James

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 8:39 am
From:
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"Evelyn C. Leeper" <eleeper@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:485fb0ed$0$11639$607ed4bc@cv.net...
> Anthony Matonak wrote:
>> lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> This includes at least one video.
>>>
>>> http://search.cbsnews.com/?source=cbs&q=saving+money+food
>>
>> The two biggest parts of anyones budget these days is housing
>> and transportation. It would make more sense to save lots of
>> money on those two first and have a little extra to spend on
>> food than the other way around.
>
> Yes, but if you already have a house and a car, moving and/or buying a
> new car may not be possible at the time, whereas you can try to save on
> food starting now.
>

Maybe it's because we low-carb, but meat and veg prices haven't gone up here
at all, in fact, they've been dropping a little now that the local growing
season is here. My food bill hasn't gone up even a little. I think we just
don't buy 90% of what the rest of the country eats.


== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 3:59 pm
From: clams_casino


h wrote:

>>
>>
>
>Maybe it's because we low-carb, but meat and veg prices haven't gone up here
>at all, in fact, they've been dropping a little now that the local growing
>season is here. My food bill hasn't gone up even a little. I think we just
>don't buy 90% of what the rest of the country eats.
>
>
>
>

Ours is up a good 25% vs. 2007 with no obvious changes in our habits.

Mostly fresh fruits, seafood & vegetables with minimal meat.


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TOPIC: Mexico's Gifts to America: Illiterate Peasants, Salmonella, and Disease
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/d163fe8dd90dd9d7?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 4:32 am
From: billimmelman@yahoo.com


On Jun 22, 1:56 pm, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
> Sunday, 22 June 2008
> Oliver W. Hagley
>
> As we Americans prepare to celebrate our 232nd birthday as a sovereign
> nation, we would be remiss if we did not acknowledge the influence that
> our neighbors to the south exert on our economy, health, and culture.
>
> Although open borders advocates would have us believe that unlawful
> migration from Mexico enriches America with new foods, language, and
> culture, the truth is exactly the opposite.
>
> In fact, having Mexico as a neighbor is a disaster for America because
> of the tens of millions of illiterate peasants, Salmonella-tainted
> tomatoes, and disease brought into our great nation by third-world
> criminals.
>
> Continued:http://www.borderfirereport.net/oliver-w.-hagley/mexicos-gifts-to-ame...

Note that the two major scumbags running for President want more
hispanics via a "Guest
Worker" program and will support Amnesty for illegal aliens. Nice.

bill

htt://www.vdare.com/

V-Dare


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TOPIC: Portable Heaters
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/3d955918993b2b57?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 5:13 am
From: AndyTao <22265737@qq.com>


Bargain Prices for Portable Heater. Home and Garden Reviews.
http://www.ogogo123sina.cn/


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TOPIC: GPS using Laptop
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/33340dc882a32488?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 7:08 am
From: "rick++"


On Jun 22, 6:32 pm, Martin <mailbo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What do I need to use my laptop as a GPS mapping system. What do I
> need to plug into a usb port that determines current location and
> indicates that on some displayed map?

A few computers have GPS devices in them already. This includes
the iPhones and iTouches to be sold in July.


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TOPIC: Simple ways to make yourself beautiful
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e1fe17a276816681?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 8:04 am
From: Al Bundy


On Jun 22, 3:51 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mr.SmartyPants <georgewks...@humboldt1.com> wrote
>
> > David <david7...@rediffmail.com> wrote
> >> Simple ways to make yourself beautiful
> >>http://www.beautyadvice4u.blogspot.com
> > Just Smile
> > works every time
>
> Not for those whose cigarette stained teeth look like a train wreck.
>
> > and pretty frugal.
>
> Not when little kids scream when you do that.

Or, chop their head off and lose 10# of ugly fat.


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TOPIC: Inexpensive green products website
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/fcbe4fbb7e5c34e0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 8:07 am
From: Al Bundy


On Jun 18, 10:23 pm, wvnutt <wvn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I recently created a website featuring affordable (<$100) green
> alternatives to everyday home products that help reduce energy and
> water consumption. Currently, the site only features a few products
> along with some tips for green living, and I am looking for additional
> product suggestions. The site is intended for those who would like to
> green their homes, but aren't yet prepared to spend the money required
> to replace appliances, insulation, etc. In addition to products, I'd
> appreciate suggests regarding the site's appearance, functionality,
> etc. The site can be visited athttp://www.inexpensivegreen.com

You are not off to much of a start there with only five common
suggestions of the day found everywhere.
Why not add common sense? That works without spending anything for
those who are able.


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TOPIC: How many here own food freezer?
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 8:51 am
From: me@privacy.net


What size?

And do you think its REALLY a frugal thing to own?

If yes..... how and in what ways?

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 10:17 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com


On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:51:52 -0500, me@privacy.net wrote:

>What size?
>
>And do you think its REALLY a frugal thing to own?
>
>If yes..... how and in what ways?

21 ft3, electric costs per year rated at about $25

Yes frugal. It allows us to buy bulk and store frozen. We don't have
to drive to the stores as often. It allows us to store our own
produce without resorting to canning. A freezer is little more than a
shelf with overhead costs. If you stock it based on sales and stuff
that will otherwise go to waste, you'll save a lot. If you stuff it
with frozen pizza, or stuff you'll forget about and toss out, you
won't.

== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 9:53 am
From: tmclone@searchmachine.com


On Jun 23, 1:17 pm, hchick...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:51:52 -0500, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> >What size?
>
> >And do you think its REALLY a frugal thing to own?
>
> >If yes..... how and in what ways?
>
> 21 ft3, electric costs per year rated at about $25
>
> Yes frugal. It allows us to buy bulk and store frozen. We don't have
> to drive to the stores as often. It allows us to store our own
> produce without resorting to canning. A freezer is little more than a
> shelf with overhead costs. If you stock it based on sales and stuff
> that will otherwise go to waste, you'll save a lot. If you stuff it
> with frozen pizza, or stuff you'll forget about and toss out, you
> won't.

Agreed. We have a small chest freezer and it's stuffed with meat. I
wait for the giant boneless chicken breasts to be $1.79/lb and buy
about 15 packs. I buy a whole (boneless) ribeye for $4.99/lb, cut it
up myself into 2" thick steaks, and freeze each one separately. Team
that with the gigantic shrimp which every holiday sells for $8.99/lb
and you have phenomenal, frugal surf and turf. Our fridge's freezer
just has ice and veggies (usually fresh, then blanched and frozen) and
other home made stuff like turkey broth and quiche. I don't think
there's a single thing in either freezer that's not in a homemade
package, except for some corn I bought last winter to use in homemade
salsa. Corn's not big on the list for low carbers, and it's not
something I want to try to grow at home anyway.

== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 12:28 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


me@privacy.net wrote:

> What size?

There is no absolute answer, depends on how you use it.

> And do you think its REALLY a frugal thing to own?

Nope, I mainly do it because its much more convenient to have a
full range of food in the freezer and then I eat most stuff from there.

It does allow me to only do a high frequency shop for fresh fruit.

And since I prefer to cut up my own steak so I get it the way I want it,
its the only way to go when I buy the meat in 20Kg class blocks etc.

It does allow me to never buy anything buy meat at special
prices, I never ever pay full price for any meat, but its hard
to argue that that actually pays for the running costs.

> If yes..... how and in what ways?


== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 1:00 pm
From: James


On Jun 23, 3:28 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> m...@privacy.net wrote:
> > What size?
>
> There is no absolute answer, depends on how you use it.
>
> > And do you think its REALLY a frugal thing to own?
>
> Nope, I mainly do it because its much more convenient to have a
> full range of food in the freezer and then I eat most stuff from there.
>
> It does allow me to only do a high frequency shop for fresh fruit.
>
> And since I prefer to cut up my own steak so I get it the way I want it,
> its the only way to go when I buy the meat in 20Kg class blocks etc.
>
> It does allow me to never buy anything buy meat at special
> prices, I never ever pay full price for any meat, but its hard
> to argue that that actually pays for the running costs.
>
>
>
I have a family of 5, with 3 teenagers.

I couldn't give you an exact number but buying in bulk and using the
freezer does mean I can save significant amounts on my purchases.

Just last week I saved $4.00 on hamburger patties, $4 on Octoberfest
sausage, $4 on lean ground beef, $6 on chicken breasts, $4 on frozen
juices - I would not have been able to buy in those quanitites without
a separate freezer. Thats one week, perhaps not quite typical, but
close enough. If I had to make smaller purchases and pay regular
prices cause I couldn't store as many, it would put a crimp in the
budget for sure.

I generally only buy roasts, turkeys, legs of lamb etc on sale.

James

== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 1:15 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


James <jlinn@idirect.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> m...@privacy.net wrote

>>> What size?

>> There is no absolute answer, depends on how you use it.

>>> And do you think its REALLY a frugal thing to own?

>> Nope, I mainly do it because its much more convenient to have a
>> full range of food in the freezer and then I eat most stuff from there.

>> It does allow me to only do a high frequency shop for fresh fruit.

>> And since I prefer to cut up my own steak so I get it the way I want
>> it, its the only way to go when I buy the meat in 20Kg class blocks etc.

>> It does allow me to never buy anything but meat at special
>> prices, I never ever pay full price for any meat, but its hard
>> to argue that that actually pays for the running costs.

I meant the true running cost, including the cost of the
freezer, not just the cost of the electricity to power it.

> I have a family of 5, with 3 teenagers.

I just have one that eats meat every meal, but only one meal proper meal a day.

And I know he has just one too. Should have spelt that out.

> I couldn't give you an exact number but buying in bulk and using the
> freezer does mean I can save significant amounts on my purchases.

> Just last week I saved $4.00 on hamburger patties, $4 on Octoberfest
> sausage, $4 on lean ground beef, $6 on chicken breasts, $4 on frozen
> juices - I would not have been able to buy in those quanitites without
> a separate freezer. Thats one week, perhaps not quite typical, but
> close enough. If I had to make smaller purchases and pay regular
> prices cause I couldn't store as many, it would put a crimp in the
> budget for sure.

I never ever constrain my spending based on the cost and dont bother
with a budget but do prefer to buy whats best value, just my mentality.

> I generally only buy roasts, turkeys, legs of lamb etc on sale.

I only buy what we call rump steak, chicken breasts and legs
of lamb in much volume, with a scattering of other meat, but
dont eat much ground beef. The currys use the offcuts from
the cutting up of the steak and chicken breasts.

I also eat a big volume of prepackaged chicken etc where you
just put it in the oven for 30 mins or so, kievs, cordon blue, filo
pillows, baguettes etc. Only ever buy the specials of those.


== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 2:04 pm
From: ediefaber@yahoo.com (elise d faber)


On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 10:51:52 -0500, me@privacy.net wrote:

>What size?
>
>And do you think its REALLY a frugal thing to own?
>
>If yes..... how and in what ways?


i live alone and the freezer saves me a lot of money because i can
stock up on sales. but the big savings come because i always cook
extra and freeze it, so i always have meals ready to nuke.

i never get caught in that 'i need something for dinner-i'll just get
take out.' bind. i also cook up beans, chick peas etc and always have
them ready to use. i make food for my dog and cats and freeze that
too.

elise


== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 4:49 pm
From: val189


I'll give you the reasons I DON"T have one and you can weigh these
'cons' also.

a. don't have the space for one
b. live very close to supermarket, so can shop often.
c. power outage would make me wish I didn't have one* (live in
hurricane territory)
d. I know I'd never rotate the food in and out at optimum times .
e. initial cost of freezer, of course.
f. I don't like the taste of some foods which have been frozen.
g. the freezer part of my fridge is adequate.
h. not feeding an army, so I doubt I'd save that much money by loading
up on bargains.


(yes, I know one can buy freezer insurance, but that wud b one more
hassle)*

== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 4:57 pm
From: "The Henchman"

<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:fjhv54hcugs4lieufrbbspicteccjildla@4ax.com...
> What size?
>
> And do you think its REALLY a frugal thing to own?
>
> If yes..... how and in what ways?

I love my little 5 cu. foot freezer. It's there to simply buy last day of
sale meats and veggies that I can cook up that night. My little freezer cut
my work lunch costs in half.


== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 4:58 pm
From: clams_casino


val189 wrote:

>I'll give you the reasons I DON"T have one and you can weigh these
>'cons' also.
>
>a. don't have the space for one
>b. live very close to supermarket, so can shop often.
>c. power outage would make me wish I didn't have one* (live in
>hurricane territory)
>d. I know I'd never rotate the food in and out at optimum times .
>e. initial cost of freezer, of course.
>f. I don't like the taste of some foods which have been frozen.
>g. the freezer part of my fridge is adequate.
>h. not feeding an army, so I doubt I'd save that much money by loading
>up on bargains.
>
>
> (yes, I know one can buy freezer insurance, but that wud b one more
>hassle)*
>
>

Agree with all of the above, except #A, but especially #F.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jun 23 2008 11:46 am
From: sholist@hotmail.com


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