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* Only Disney can design a smart transportation system - 2 messages, 1 author
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* Hey driver, do you know why cyclists hate you? - 10 messages, 6 authors
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* Is God a Christian? - 6 messages, 4 authors
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* My prayers for red-light cameras have been answered! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Which car guide and petrol/diesel engines - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* why would 1 room in our house always be hottor or colder than rest? - 2
messages, 2 authors
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TOPIC: Only Disney can design a smart transportation system
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 12:34 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
http://architecture.about.com/od/plannedcities/ss/celebration.htm
Oh, I just realized... Celebration is considered "New Urbanism" which
I propose in my Master Plan for any Banana Republica out there. Yes,
my plan is to have these ideas implemented in some dilapidated country
(say Cuba) and make it go according to some sense of proportion and
quality of life, not the ideas imported from the West and North based
on the car and the Gated Community... Comprende?
THE MASTER PLAN
http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 12:47 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
(from the local forum)
Re: Only Disney can design a smart transportation system
Quote Originally Posted by Under the Sun View Post
"One reason I hate visiting my sister in Celebration is that the
speed limit is 25 and it takes forever to get to the East Lawn where
she resides."
***
Thank you, that's important clue to shared roads. What I'd do
though in the REAL WORLD is to implement 25mph on the right lane only,
then up to 35 on the other lanes.
Actually everybody may come out better.
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TOPIC: Hey driver, do you know why cyclists hate you?
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 12:41 pm
From: Cindy Hamilton
On Sep 25, 4:45 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey, cyclist, we drivers don't care who you hate.
== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 12:52 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 27, 12:41 pm, Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> On Sep 25, 4:45 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
> the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hey, cyclist, we drivers don't care who you hate.
If we loved you, you'd reincarnate in a higher species not a rat.
"Where's the rat race leading to?"
== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 2:39 pm
From: "Just zis Guy, you know?"
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:29:06 -0400, Forrest Hodge <fo19@hotmail.com>
wrote:
>On 9/26/2010 2:01 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
>
>>
>> Tell you what, drivers can bitch about bikes not obeying all stop signs
>> on they day they agree to obey all speed limit signs. Deal?
>>
>
>When bicyclists can keep up with the prevailing speed of traffic then
>we'll talk.
Been to London lately? Every commuter race I have ever seen in London
has been won by the bike.
Guy
--
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to be worth the price paid.
== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 3:33 pm
From: Forrest Hodge
On 9/27/2010 8:56 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle wrote:
> On Sep 26, 5:29 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/26/2010 2:01 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Tell you what, drivers can bitch about bikes not obeying all stop signs
>>> on they day they agree to obey all speed limit signs. Deal?
>>
>> When bicyclists can keep up with the prevailing speed of traffic then
>> we'll talk.
>
> If we can't go up to their speed, we should bring 'em down to ours.
>
> We need more vehicles like these...
>
> http://www.evfinder.com/NEVs.htm
>
> Tell ya what, THE RIGHT LANE IS ONLY FOR BICYCLES AND NEV'S.
>
> I will sign the decree soon.
I know it doesn't pertain to you, and your philosophy,but most of us
have jobs that we need to get to and from. Artificially lowering the
speed limits (even more than they already are) would hurt productivity
and/or just increase the number of hours the gainfully employed would
have to stay at work.
== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 3:40 pm
From: Forrest Hodge
On 9/27/2010 5:39 PM, Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:29:06 -0400, Forrest Hodge<fo19@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 9/26/2010 2:01 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Tell you what, drivers can bitch about bikes not obeying all stop signs
>>> on they day they agree to obey all speed limit signs. Deal?
>>>
>>
>> When bicyclists can keep up with the prevailing speed of traffic then
>> we'll talk.
>
> Been to London lately? Every commuter race I have ever seen in London
> has been won by the bike.
>
> Guy
Can't say I have, I haven't been to Britain in about 10 years. I'm an
American that lives in a semi-rural area. There are no sidewalks, and
there are no bike lanes on my commute to work. What there is though is a
two lane road with a speed limit of 45 MPH, and a prevailing speed of
around 50 MPH. There are is one stop light along the 5 mile route I
take, but it's at the end/begining. It would near suicide to try to bike
that during rush hour and dicey at best at other times. I'll keep
driving my 450+ HP supercharged Mustang and leave the cycling for the
back roads on the weekend, which is much more pleasant and safe IMHO.
== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 3:57 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 27, 3:33 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/27/2010 8:56 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> > On Sep 26, 5:29 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 9/26/2010 2:01 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
>
> >>> Tell you what, drivers can bitch about bikes not obeying all stop signs
> >>> on they day they agree to obey all speed limit signs. Deal?
>
> >> When bicyclists can keep up with the prevailing speed of traffic then
> >> we'll talk.
>
> > If we can't go up to their speed, we should bring 'em down to ours.
>
> > We need more vehicles like these...
>
> >http://www.evfinder.com/NEVs.htm
>
> > Tell ya what, THE RIGHT LANE IS ONLY FOR BICYCLES AND NEV'S.
>
> > I will sign the decree soon.
>
> I know it doesn't pertain to you, and your philosophy,but most of us
> have jobs that we need to get to and from. Artificially lowering the
> speed limits (even more than they already are) would hurt productivity
> and/or just increase the number of hours the gainfully employed would
> have to stay at work.
There you go: Work, Work and no pleasure! You must see this movie with
Julia Roberts where the Italians laugh at the Americans.
Their secret to happiness? They ride scooters!
== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 4:44 pm
From: Joy Beeson
On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:29:06 -0400, Forrest Hodge <fo19@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> When bicyclists can keep up with the prevailing speed of traffic then
> we'll talk.
When cars can keep a steady enough pace that a bike rider behind one
doesn't have to stand on the pedals and ride the brakes
simultaneously, then we can talk.
--
Joy Beeson
joy beeson at comcast dot net
== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 5:07 pm
From: Forrest Hodge
On 9/27/2010 6:57 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle wrote:
> On Sep 27, 3:33 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/27/2010 8:56 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>>
>>
>>
>> the Jungle wrote:
>>> On Sep 26, 5:29 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/26/2010 2:01 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
>>
>>>>> Tell you what, drivers can bitch about bikes not obeying all stop signs
>>>>> on they day they agree to obey all speed limit signs. Deal?
>>
>>>> When bicyclists can keep up with the prevailing speed of traffic then
>>>> we'll talk.
>>
>>> If we can't go up to their speed, we should bring 'em down to ours.
>>
>>> We need more vehicles like these...
>>
>>> http://www.evfinder.com/NEVs.htm
>>
>>> Tell ya what, THE RIGHT LANE IS ONLY FOR BICYCLES AND NEV'S.
>>
>>> I will sign the decree soon.
>>
>> I know it doesn't pertain to you, and your philosophy,but most of us
>> have jobs that we need to get to and from. Artificially lowering the
>> speed limits (even more than they already are) would hurt productivity
>> and/or just increase the number of hours the gainfully employed would
>> have to stay at work.
>
> There you go: Work, Work and no pleasure! You must see this movie with
> Julia Roberts where the Italians laugh at the Americans.
>
> Their secret to happiness? They ride scooters!
Who said anything about no pleasure? I have adequate time to pursue my
interests and still have a job. Financing my hobbies takes money though,
so having a steady income is part of the deal. Or should I expect others
to pay for my wants/needs instead?
== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 7:11 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 27, 5:07 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/27/2010 6:57 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> > On Sep 27, 3:33 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 9/27/2010 8:56 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>
> >> the Jungle wrote:
> >>> On Sep 26, 5:29 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> On 9/26/2010 2:01 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
>
> >>>>> Tell you what, drivers can bitch about bikes not obeying all stop signs
> >>>>> on they day they agree to obey all speed limit signs. Deal?
>
> >>>> When bicyclists can keep up with the prevailing speed of traffic then
> >>>> we'll talk.
>
> >>> If we can't go up to their speed, we should bring 'em down to ours.
>
> >>> We need more vehicles like these...
>
> >>>http://www.evfinder.com/NEVs.htm
>
> >>> Tell ya what, THE RIGHT LANE IS ONLY FOR BICYCLES AND NEV'S.
>
> >>> I will sign the decree soon.
>
> >> I know it doesn't pertain to you, and your philosophy,but most of us
> >> have jobs that we need to get to and from. Artificially lowering the
> >> speed limits (even more than they already are) would hurt productivity
> >> and/or just increase the number of hours the gainfully employed would
> >> have to stay at work.
>
> > There you go: Work, Work and no pleasure! You must see this movie with
> > Julia Roberts where the Italians laugh at the Americans.
>
> > Their secret to happiness? They ride scooters!
>
> Who said anything about no pleasure? I have adequate time to pursue my
> interests and still have a job. Financing my hobbies takes money though,
> so having a steady income is part of the deal. Or should I expect others
> to pay for my wants/needs instead?
By riding a bike to work and/or shopping you can both have fun and
save money.
== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 7:26 pm
From: Forrest Hodge
On 9/27/2010 10:11 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle wrote:
> On Sep 27, 5:07 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/27/2010 6:57 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>>
>>
>>
>> the Jungle wrote:
>>> On Sep 27, 3:33 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/27/2010 8:56 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>>
>>>> the Jungle wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 26, 5:29 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/26/2010 2:01 PM, Doc O'Leary wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> Tell you what, drivers can bitch about bikes not obeying all stop signs
>>>>>>> on they day they agree to obey all speed limit signs. Deal?
>>
>>>>>> When bicyclists can keep up with the prevailing speed of traffic then
>>>>>> we'll talk.
>>
>>>>> If we can't go up to their speed, we should bring 'em down to ours.
>>
>>>>> We need more vehicles like these...
>>
>>>>> http://www.evfinder.com/NEVs.htm
>>
>>>>> Tell ya what, THE RIGHT LANE IS ONLY FOR BICYCLES AND NEV'S.
>>
>>>>> I will sign the decree soon.
>>
>>>> I know it doesn't pertain to you, and your philosophy,but most of us
>>>> have jobs that we need to get to and from. Artificially lowering the
>>>> speed limits (even more than they already are) would hurt productivity
>>>> and/or just increase the number of hours the gainfully employed would
>>>> have to stay at work.
>>
>>> There you go: Work, Work and no pleasure! You must see this movie with
>>> Julia Roberts where the Italians laugh at the Americans.
>>
>>> Their secret to happiness? They ride scooters!
>>
>> Who said anything about no pleasure? I have adequate time to pursue my
>> interests and still have a job. Financing my hobbies takes money though,
>> so having a steady income is part of the deal. Or should I expect others
>> to pay for my wants/needs instead?
>
> By riding a bike to work and/or shopping you can both have fun and
> save money.
>
Riding a bike to work or shopping is not practical for me, I also
consider driving fun.
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 12:56 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 27, 11:08 am, The Real Bev <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/27/10 06:37, dgk wrote:
>
> > I believe in the Great Pumpkin although I'm willing to participate in
> > any holiday that includes lots of eating and presents.
>
> Blasphemer! Fortunately His Goly Noodliness theFlying Spaghetti Monster
> will forgive you.
>
> --
> Cheers, Bev
> ======================================================================
> Eat this, NSA: bomb assassinate Washington North Korea Iraq spy poison
Does the Spaghetti Monster have meatballs? Do other god have balls?
I hate those plain spaghetti.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 4:43 pm
From: clare@snyder.on.ca
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:08:54 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 09/27/10 06:37, dgk wrote:
>
>> I believe in the Great Pumpkin although I'm willing to participate in
>> any holiday that includes lots of eating and presents.
>
>Blasphemer! Fortunately His Goly Noodliness theFlying Spaghetti Monster
>will forgive you.
And no, GOD is not a Christian.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 7:20 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 27, 4:43 pm, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:08:54 -0700, The Real Bev
>
> <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On 09/27/10 06:37, dgk wrote:
>
> >> I believe in the Great Pumpkin although I'm willing to participate in
> >> any holiday that includes lots of eating and presents.
>
> >Blasphemer! Fortunately His Goly Noodliness theFlying Spaghetti Monster
> >will forgive you.
>
> And no, GOD is not a Christian.
I had a feeling about it. To me the most sacred being is the Holy Cow,
and you can eat it too!
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 7:52 pm
From: clare@snyder.on.ca
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:20:26 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sep 27, 4:43 pm, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:08:54 -0700, The Real Bev
>>
>> <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On 09/27/10 06:37, dgk wrote:
>>
>> >> I believe in the Great Pumpkin although I'm willing to participate in
>> >> any holiday that includes lots of eating and presents.
>>
>> >Blasphemer! Fortunately His Goly Noodliness theFlying Spaghetti Monster
>> >will forgive you.
>>
>> And no, GOD is not a Christian.
>
>I had a feeling about it. To me the most sacred being is the Holy Cow,
>and you can eat it too!
Not if you are Hindu, or in a Hindu area!!!!!
As for WHY God is not a Christian - according to the Christian faith,
god is the father of Christ and is above Christ or equal to Christ- or
Christ is God - either way, no way GOD needs to be obedient to,
subservient to, or more accurately,redeemed by Christ.
So most definitely, GOD is not a Christian.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 8:23 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
On Sep 27, 7:52 pm, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:20:26 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
>
>
>
> <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Sep 27, 4:43 pm, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> >> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:08:54 -0700, The Real Bev
>
> >> <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On 09/27/10 06:37, dgk wrote:
>
> >> >> I believe in the Great Pumpkin although I'm willing to participate in
> >> >> any holiday that includes lots of eating and presents.
>
> >> >Blasphemer! Fortunately His Goly Noodliness theFlying Spaghetti Monster
> >> >will forgive you.
>
> >> And no, GOD is not a Christian.
>
> >I had a feeling about it. To me the most sacred being is the Holy Cow,
> >and you can eat it too!
>
> Not if you are Hindu, or in a Hindu area!!!!!
What would happen in a life or death situation between Hindu man and
Holy Cow?
>
> As for WHY God is not a Christian - according to the Christian faith,
> god is the father of Christ and is above Christ or equal to Christ- or
> Christ is God - either way, no way GOD needs to be obedient to,
> subservient to, or more accurately,redeemed by Christ.
> So most definitely, GOD is not a Christian.
That's true.
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 9:20 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 09/27/10 19:52, clare@snyder.on.ca wrote:
> <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On Sep 27, 4:43 pm, cl...@snyder.on.ca wrote:
>>> <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >On 09/27/10 06:37, dgk wrote:
>>>
>>> >> I believe in the Great Pumpkin although I'm willing to participate in
>>> >> any holiday that includes lots of eating and presents.
>>>
>>> >Blasphemer! Fortunately His Godly Noodliness the Flying Spaghetti Monster
>>> >will forgive you.
>>>
>>> And no, GOD is not a Christian.
>>
>>I had a feeling about it. To me the most sacred being is the Holy Cow,
>>and you can eat it too!
> Not if you are Hindu, or in a Hindu area!!!!!
>
> As for WHY God is not a Christian - according to the Christian faith,
> god is the father of Christ and is above Christ or equal to Christ- or
> Christ is God - either way, no way GOD needs to be obedient to,
> subservient to, or more accurately,redeemed by Christ.
> So most definitely, GOD is not a Christian.
He also doesn't understand RADAR.
--
Cheers, Bev
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TOPIC: My prayers for red-light cameras have been answered!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 1:13 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
Whether it was my prayers or the actual need for cash by the city, my
prayers have been answered. See, l lived in the corner of a major
thoroughfare where I witnessed three motorcycle accidents that made me
sell my scooter.
So now that I don't have the scooter, and I'm waiting for better times
for the bicycles, I must be careful when I drive. I have made it a
practice to stop before time, but I'm still nervous of other drivers
forcing me to run the light, like when they keep going and I am in the
middle of the intersection.
If I get a ticket despite my utmost care then I'll take back my
prayers and try to ride a bus or a bicycle --traffic allowing. You
must always have a Plan B in the jungle.
NOTE: I remember the times when running the light was a bloody sport
and I'm still for the cameras.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"When your wishes come true is time to wish again"
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TOPIC: Which car guide and petrol/diesel engines
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 2:49 pm
From: "DavidR"
"john" <chris1234@yahoo.com> wrote
> "DavidR" <curedham@4bidden.org.uk> wrote in message
>> "john hamilton" <bluestar95@mail.invalid> wrote in message
>>
>>> Since though 2005/2006 is not that long ago, is Which saying that diesel
>>> engines are nicer to drive than petrol? (a better driving experience)
>>> because they are getting a higher rating in this category than petrol
>>> engines? Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Petrol is better for clean starts. Diesel (or any turbo) much better
>> between 30-80.
> Most of this is simply due to being turbod, try a petrol turbo...
As I said earlier. TPs are still more of a niche with attached ved and
insurance premiums. It's gradually changing and hopefully more will be
offered instead of those hopeless vvts.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 12:00 am
From: Peter Hill
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:24:02 +0100, "john" <chris1234@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
>"DavidR" <curedham@4bidden.org.uk> wrote in message
>news:8fvb0sF436U1@mid.individual.net...
>> "john hamilton" <bluestar95@mail.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:i7cp4t$4v1$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>>> Since though 2005/2006 is not that long ago, is Which saying that diesel
>>> engines are nicer to drive than petrol? (a better driving experience)
>>> because they are getting a higher rating in this category than petrol
>>> engines? Thanks for any advice.
>>
>> Petrol is better for clean starts. Diesel (or any turbo) much better
>> between
>> 30-80.
>>
>> Consider my last car, petrol of 85bhp/t. It was geared for 36mph in first,
>> with 30mph a comfortable maximum. In second, it had about 60bhp at 30mph
>> and
>> maxed out at a noisy 60mph. 50-70 times were about 8, 11, 17
>> seconds in the three top gears.
>>
>> Now diesel, also 85bhp/t. In 1st gear 24mph is possible, 20mph being a
>> comfortable maximum. That's the bit that takes getting used to. But in 3rd
>> gear at 30mph it has 70bhp, maximum power comes at a civilised 60mph and
>> if required can continue to 75mph. Thus 3rd is quicker and has
>> more top & bottom range than the old 2nd gear. It gets even better looking
>> at the
>> 50-70 times: about 6, 7 and 10 seconds. Quite simply, motorway inclines no
>> longer exist and when a blocker moves out of the way I can now get air
>> between me and the tailgater.
>
>Most of this is simply due to being turbod, try a petrol turbo...
Preferably one with a smallish turbo for a really good kick up the
rump at 60-70mph in top gear. 225bhp 2.0 TFSi Audi, 112.5bhp/L. Fiat
Punto 1.4 Evo Abarth Multiair turbo 170bhp, 121bhp/L, 47mpg. 335i -
306bhp, 101.4 bhp/L, near flatline torque from nothing to 5500rpm,
then it drops off as turbos are too small.
Then try a premium diesel turbo, SAAB 1.9 TTiD or TT Multijet (Lancia
Delta). Another good kick up the rump in top at M-way speeds.
Then try the worlds best production SI turbo with variable phase,
duration and lift valve timing. Nissan 2002 X-Trail GT - SR20VET 2.0L
280bhp Japan only (import), 140bhp/L, flatline torque from 3200rpm all
the way to max power at 6800rpm.
Don't hold your breath but variable compression SI turbo may yet
appear. Nissan are supposed to be production ready, just needs
something FR 2+2 and smaller than a 370Z to sit in, 1.6L 225bhp
140bhp/L and it will flat line the torque curve.
http://www.nissan-global.com/EN/TECHNOLOGY/INTRODUCTION/DETAILS/VCR/
http://www.prodrive.com/up/vcr.pdf
Problem is they all come at an increasingly premium price.
V8's even ones that technically are no better than L1.3 Ford Kent,
just 4x bigger so 4x more power, are even more pricey both to buy and
keep in fuel.
--
Peter Hill
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TOPIC: why would 1 room in our house always be hottor or colder than rest?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d65c170f7f625cb1?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 6:36 pm
From: Ohioguy
We moved into a 1979 house back in March. Since then, I've noticed
that our daughter's room always seems to be hotter than the rest in the
summer, and cooler than the rest in Fall/Winter.
Anyone have any suggestions for what might cause this? I thought it
might be an issue with the ducts, until I realized this was also the
case when we didn't even have the AC or furnace on.
The strange thing is, this room seems to have more extreme temps than
our son's bedroom - which is on the corner, and thus has about 70% more
exterior wall. It kind of defies logic, at least at first glance.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 27 2010 7:42 pm
From: "Bob F"
Ohioguy wrote:
> We moved into a 1979 house back in March. Since then, I've noticed
> that our daughter's room always seems to be hotter than the rest in
> the summer, and cooler than the rest in Fall/Winter.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions for what might cause this? I thought it
> might be an issue with the ducts, until I realized this was also the
> case when we didn't even have the AC or furnace on.
>
> The strange thing is, this room seems to have more extreme temps
> than our son's bedroom - which is on the corner, and thus has about
> 70% more exterior wall. It kind of defies logic, at least at first
> glance.
The ducts feeding that room are not feeding enough air to it. Check for duct
controls that are not open, or partially close vents in the warmer (winter)
rooms. You could check the ducts for that room for obstructions (toys).
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