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* The cost of bin Laden: $3 trillion... but be assured, no taxes! - 3 messages,
3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7ec2f5b7e5025749?hl=en
* Is Dell Reliable? - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ccf0ba6e1d11de25?hl=en
* RANT: Two ?? about Human Behavior - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/541099eafb739d7d?hl=en
* Thank you, Jesus, for sending Dutch cycling experts to Miami! - 2 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3378f7e077052226?hl=en
* Gas prices up 110% since Barack Obama took office --but not enough yet! - 2
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c03516726d8d8cea?hl=en
* Irish stew vs beef stew - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7c2340102a1da96d?hl=en
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TOPIC: The cost of bin Laden: $3 trillion... but be assured, no taxes!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7ec2f5b7e5025749?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, May 6 2011 4:04 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Whether you give him credit for that or not is a matter of debate, but
it took a Republican President, backed by a Christian electorate to
take a bite and expect that somehow someone would pay for it because,
be assured, NO TAXES!
Then you realize it only took two bullets to end his life. Osama was
not immortal but he was smarter.
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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 7:25 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On May 6, 7:04 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Whether you give him credit for that or not is a matter of debate, but
> it took a Republican President, backed by a Christian electorate to
> take a bite and expect that somehow someone would pay for it because,
> be assured, NO TAXES!
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclusive/20110506/pl_yblog_exclusive/t...
>
> Then you realize it only took two bullets to end his life. Osama was
> not immortal but he was smarter.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
I expect this same people to raise hell whenever BIKE FACILITIES or
FAST TRAINS are proposed. It must be someone with very low IQ willing
to follow the leader...
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 7:40 am
From: totfit
On Sat, 07 May 2011 07:25:22 -0700, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the
Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:
> On May 6, 7:04 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
> Philosopher" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Whether you give him credit for that or not is a matter of debate, but
>> it took a Republican President, backed by a Christian electorate to
>> take a bite and expect that somehow someone would pay for it because,
>> be assured, NO TAXES!
>>
>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_exclusive/20110506/pl_yblog_exclusive/
t...
>>
>> Then you realize it only took two bullets to end his life. Osama was
>> not immortal but he was smarter.
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> I expect this same people to raise hell whenever BIKE FACILITIES or FAST
> TRAINS are proposed. It must be someone with very low IQ willing to
> follow the leader...
Yep. Unfortunately there's lots of them.
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TOPIC: Is Dell Reliable?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ccf0ba6e1d11de25?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 6:12 am
From: Shawn Hirn
In article <Pine.NEB.4.64.1105050358400.22480@otaku.freeshell.org>,
T W <tw91@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> wrote:
> Is Dell reliable and do they honor their warranties on computers and
> monitors?
Are you referring to personal or business use? For personal use, and in
my office at work, I am strictly Apple. I have an iMac at home and a
MacBook Pro, which I am using now. Apple computers are second to none in
terms of reliability.
I work in the IT industry for a large IT shop. In the Philadelphia area
where I work, my employer is one of Dell's largest customers. My
employer spends a boat load of money every year on Dell servers, desktop
computers, and laptops. Most of my colleagues also use Dell desktop
machines in their offices and home. I manage a few Dell servers, and I
have to say that they have never let me down.
We get awesome service from Dell for warranty coverage, but Dell knows
full well that they do not want to piss off my employer. In fact, I have
the cell phone number of everyone in Dell's regional account team for my
area so if I run into a problem with one of my Dell servers, it is easy
for me to cut through the chase quickly. Fortunately, I haven't had to
do that in many years. The only problem I ever had with a Dell box is
when I received a new rack mounted server five years ago and it kept
failing. A Dell technician had to replace three or four motherboards on
it before it worked properly. That same server is still in production
and it has been reliable, which is great considering it runs 24x7x365.
Me? I refuse to spend a dime of my money on anything other than Apple.
While my six your old Mac Pro in my office is humming away running Mac
OS X 10.6, my co-workers seem to spend an inordinate amount of time
caring and feeding their Windows workstations. In one of the data
centers where I work, I sometimes use a Dell workstation with Windows 7
and even though its a fairly new computer, I feel like I can grow old
waiting for Windows 7 to log me into my account. It is also slower than
my old MacPro in my office for everything I do and more convoluted.
But, I have to say that as far as reliability is concerned, Dell isn't
much different than other manufacturers' PCs for the same money. One
thing you might consider doing if you are so inclined is to build your
own PC, but I know most people just want to take the computer out of the
box and start trying to be productive with it.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 10:05 am
From: T W
On Fri, 6 May 2011, Rod Speed wrote:
> T W wrote:
>
>> Is Dell reliable
>
> Not that great. I have seen more warranty repairs with Dell laptops than with other name brands.
>
>> and do they honor their warranties on computers and monitors?
>
> Yes.
>
That's good news.I was afraid that they try to give excuses.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 10:07 pm
From: Zilbandy
On Sat, 7 May 2011 17:05:21 +0000, T W <tw91@SDF.LONESTAR.ORG> wrote:
>>> Is Dell reliable
>>
>> Not that great. I have seen more warranty repairs with Dell laptops than with other name brands.
>>
>>> and do they honor their warranties on computers and monitors?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>That's good news.I was afraid that they try to give excuses.
Good luck trying to understand the techs as they read you the scripts
they are required to read as part of their service in their English as
a second or third language accents.
--
Zilbandy
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TOPIC: RANT: Two ?? about Human Behavior
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/541099eafb739d7d?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 11:08 am
From: Derald
1) Why is it that people who begin sentences with, "I had the strangest dream",
or something similar invariably recount that dream even though the listener has
expressed no interest in hearing about it and really doesn't give a rat's
bee-hind?
2) Why is it that people perceiving one to be wearing a headset invariably
attempt to start a conversation?
I mean, here I am doing stuff in the veggie garden on a fine Saturday
afternoon, under close kitty supervision, ears filled with Gould playing some
one or the other Bach Goldbergs (1955 recording), cophesthic to the max, and
some dunce approaches and begins, totally unbidden, shouting about his dreams.
Now, I fully comprehend, "Some people live only because it's illegal to shoot
them".
--
...sheesh!
Derald
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 1:46 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 05/07/11 11:08, Derald wrote:
> 1) Why is it that people who begin sentences with, "I had the strangest dream",
> or something similar invariably recount that dream even though the listener has
> expressed no interest in hearing about it and really doesn't give a rat's
> bee-hind?
Next time it happens, agree that the dream is so strange that it
probably indicates some form of mental illness that the dreamer should
seek therapy for immediately. Be annoyingly sympathetic. Offer to
explain to the dreamer's wife his urgent need of therapy and to drive
him to the emergency room RIGHT NOW.
> 2) Why is it that people perceiving one to be wearing a headset invariably
> attempt to start a conversation?
Pretend you can't hear him. Don't make eye contact. When you finally
can't avoid being in a position where you can see him, jump and scream
as if he frightened you badly by sneaking up on you.
> I mean, here I am doing stuff in the veggie garden on a fine Saturday
> afternoon, under close kitty supervision, ears filled with Gould playing some
> one or the other Bach Goldbergs (1955 recording), cophesthic to the max, and
> some dunce approaches and begins, totally unbidden, shouting about his dreams.
> Now, I fully comprehend, "Some people live only because it's illegal to shoot
> them".
Don't you have a shovelful of manure you could accidentally fling at
him? Get one immediately!
--
Cheers, Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
It's true that Smokey the Bear deserves praise for his
campaign against forest fires, but nobody ever mentions
the boy scouts he kills for their hats.
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TOPIC: Thank you, Jesus, for sending Dutch cycling experts to Miami!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3378f7e077052226?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 12:01 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Posted at the site of the organization sending the experts. Whatever I
say about Holland being flooded by sea rise applies to Miami Beach:
"For the overwhelming majority of us --mundane monkeys-- it remains a
dangerous game of survival to ride a bike. Ironically it is us who are
willing to do something to avoid sea rise, which will make beautiful
places like Holland disappear under water.
We do need lots of help!"
http://acwestmount.wordpress.com/2010/12/20/bicycle-council-of-holland-fietsberaard/#comment-59
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 1:08 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Sorry, that wasn't the mother organization but some Canadian branch.
Canadians have done a lot in Montreal, at least.
This is the main Dutch organization:
http://www.fietsberaad.nl/index.cfm?lang=en
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TOPIC: Gas prices up 110% since Barack Obama took office --but not enough yet!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c03516726d8d8cea?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 12:17 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On May 5, 8:22 am, Bob LeChevalier <loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
> "Jane_Galt" <J...@GaltsGulch.pqz> wrote:
> >When Obama took office, gas prices were averaging $1.80 a gallon.
> >...
> >The average price of a gallon of gas has now doubled for middle income and
> >poor Americans.
>
> >How's that hopey changey thing working out for ya?
>
> 6 months before Obama took office, gas prices were over $4 a gallon.
> Then the economy collapsed. If that is what it takes to get
> $1.80/gallon gas, I think a lot of middle income and poor Americans
> will be happy paying $4/gallon
>
> Meanwhile, that hopey changey thing got bin Ladin, unlike Obama's
> hopeless predecessor, so we have HOPE from some CHANGE in our
> perpetual "war on terrorism".
>
> Perhaps if the Republicans would stop fighting him on the other things
> he's trying to change, he might succeed in all the rest of the hopey
> changey stuff.
>
> lojbab
> ---
> Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
> loj...@lojban.org Lojban languagewww.lojban.org
Obviously not enough until supersized SUVs disappear from the road and
bicycles become commonplace around the community.
Has anyone thought bicycles can fight high gas prices?
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 3:58 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On May 7, 4:07 pm, dr_jeff <u...@msu.edu> wrote:
> <stupid cross posting deleted>
>
> On 5/7/11 3:18 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Philosopher wrote:
> > On May 5, 8:22 am, Bob LeChevalier<loj...@lojban.org> wrote:
> >> "Jane_Galt"<J...@GaltsGulch.pqz> wrote:
> >>> When Obama took office, gas prices were averaging $1.80 a gallon.
> >>> ...
> >>> The average price of a gallon of gas has now doubled for middle income and
> >>> poor Americans.
>
> >>> How's that hopey changey thing working out for ya?
>
> >> 6 months before Obama took office, gas prices were over $4 a gallon.
> >> Then the economy collapsed. If that is what it takes to get
> >> $1.80/gallon gas, I think a lot of middle income and poor Americans
> >> will be happy paying $4/gallon
>
> >> Meanwhile, that hopey changey thing got bin Ladin, unlike Obama's
> >> hopeless predecessor, so we have HOPE from some CHANGE in our
> >> perpetual "war on terrorism".
>
> >> Perhaps if the Republicans would stop fighting him on the other things
> >> he's trying to change, he might succeed in all the rest of the hopey
> >> changey stuff.
>
> >> lojbab
> >> ---
> >> Bob LeChevalier - artificial linguist; genealogist
> >> loj...@lojban.org Lojban languagewww.lojban.org
>
> > Obviously not enough until supersized SUVs disappear from the road and
> > bicycles become commonplace around the community.
>
> While riding in NYC, I saw a SUV driver hit a bike rider. The SUV driver
> was making a left-hand turn and hit the bike rider in the bike lane. I
> was about 5 m behind him. That easily could have been me. Fortunately,
> there were only minor injuries.
>
> We need to teach motor vehicle drivers how to drive safely and enforce
> proper penalties for breaking the safety rules.
>
> > Has anyone thought bicycles can fight high gas prices?
>
> No, they can't. How can you get a order of groceries or a new
> wide-screen TV home safely on a bike? How are you going to take the
> family to church on a winter Sunday? How are you going to to get the
> kids to soccer practice? While using bikes instead of cars would help
> (it will also help keep people in shape), for most people, that's not
> practical.
>
> Better ways to reduce gas usage is to have more efficient vehicles,
> drive smartly (no jack-rabbit starts, brake slowly), generate
> electricity in an environmentally friendly way and then use electric
> vehicles (now, coal is used to power electric cars instead of oil),
> combine many trips into one so that fewer miles are driven and the car
> is driven when it is more efficient (that is, cars are more efficient
> when warmed up than when cold) and keep tire pressures at the
> appropriate pressure. Doing these things, and similar things around the
> house (cut off electricity to TVs, computers, cell phone chargers, shut
> off lights when not using them and during day light, keep the hot water
> at a low temp (120 F), keep the A/C off when you're not at home (a lot
> of people leave the A/C - particularly when they don't pay the electric
> bill), don't waste water (e.g., go by the if it's yellow, let it mellow,
> if it's brown flush it down rule when practical; take shorter showers,
> only wash dishes in the dishwasher and clothes in the washing machine
> with a full load), etc., we would decrease our energy consumption.
>
> These are things all of us can do (though not all of us can do them all).
>
> Of course, using public transportation would also save gas, but, for
> most people, that's not practical.
>
> Of course, replacing gas-guzzling vehicles with more efficient vehicles
> should happen, but, it won't happen over night. All of the energy saving
> measures can happen today.
>
> The real problem is not high gas price; it is using too much energy.
High gas prices are a STRONG motivator to save energy.
I won't claim that you can do 100% of LOCAL TRIPS on a bike, but a
good 90% of them --depending on your family size-- can be done on a
bike. You use TRAILERS to multiply your capacity, and one of mine
carries a big dog --which I don't have-- or close to 100lbs.
I rarely use it though as I look forward to do lighter, more frequents
trips.
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TOPIC: Irish stew vs beef stew
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7c2340102a1da96d?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 7 2011 6:16 pm
From: tmclone
On May 5, 7:14 pm, anthona <harri85...@aol.com> wrote:
> What are the differences?
Irish stew is made from lamb, not beef. That would be the main
difference. Also, "Irish Stew" is traditionally called "Shepard's
Pie", and has a layer of mashed potatoes covering the top, and then
it's baked in the oven. "Beef Stew" just has chunks of potatoes cooked
into the stew, and it's normally made entirely on the stove top.
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