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* The Problem Solved! - 1 messages, 1 author
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* $14.50 to pick up my mail ??!!? bogus, or not? - 4 messages, 4 authors
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* What abt Costco Credit card from Amex? - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* Glass tables can injure or kill someone falling on it. - 1 messages, 1
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* Article: "21 Things You Should Never Buy New" - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Fox news pandering to illegal aliens. Their boss Rupert Murdoch is an
amnesty booster. - 3 messages, 2 authors
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* Who get more respect on the road, a cyclist or a dog? - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: The Problem Solved!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 5:19 pm
From: "h"
"Derald" <derald@invalid.net> wrote in message
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>
> I figure "Twitter" is so-named because anyone who's constantly
> checking up on what his friends might be doing "doing" is, well, _a
> twit_, in my book.
Yup. Ought to be called "Twit".
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TOPIC: $14.50 to pick up my mail ??!!? bogus, or not?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 6:27 pm
From: "The Henchman"
> Sorry I have no answer for you. It seems we are required to do
> everyone else's jobs nowadays. Hence, all the self-checkouts (which I
> refuse to use). Remember when people pumped your gas, checked out and
> BAGGED your groceries, and delivered and picked up your mail? Oh it
> was so long ago. Welcome to America.
Oddly enuf they got rid of self checkouts at the walmart near my work. It's
a 190 000 square foot building. They had 10 self checkouts and all of them
are now gone. Theft, inability of customers to work the machines and the
cost of maintence on the machines.
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 6:51 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 07/01/10 18:27, The Henchman wrote:
>> Sorry I have no answer for you. It seems we are required to do
>> everyone else's jobs nowadays. Hence, all the self-checkouts (which I
>> refuse to use). Remember when people pumped your gas, checked out and
>> BAGGED your groceries, and delivered and picked up your mail? Oh it
>> was so long ago. Welcome to America.
I don't have a problem with that. I haven't had anybody pump my gas for
a LONG time, but checkers and mailpersons are still around. Not that
that's a big advantage, of course. Bills, junk mail and the occasional
mail-order package. I generally perfer NOT to pay other people to do
something I'm perfectly capable of doing.
> Oddly enuf they got rid of self checkouts at the walmart near my work. It's
> a 190 000 square foot building. They had 10 self checkouts and all of them
> are now gone. Theft, inability of customers to work the machines and the
> cost of maintence on the machines.
I like the self-checkouts providing everything has the proper barcode.
There's rarely a line when the human-checked lines are four deep. The
surveys I fill out frequently have a question of the form "Does
<something> make you feel like a smart shopper?" Mostly the answer is
"not especially, I'm ALWAYS a smart shopper" but they never give that as
an option. I DO feel like a smart shopper when I sail through the
self-checkout and sneer at the people still waiting in the checkout
lines, though :-)
--
Cheers, Bev
===================================================
"I love deadlines... especially the whooshing sound
they make as they go by." -Douglas Adams
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 8:50 pm
From: Derald
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> I DO feel like a smart shopper when I sail through the
>self-checkout and sneer at the people still waiting in the checkout
>lines, though :-)
Well I don't, although, I do use them but get no discount for doing
so. I use them at Lowes, Wallyworld and Home Desperate. Those at
Wallyworld are the least reliable and the WW minions the least able to
tame the damn things. For me, the great advantage is that I'll never
again get behind the asshole who presents the only galvanized fitting in
the store with no upc sticker and then wait while the Latina Princess
who reads no and speaks little English matches the item to a profile in
a book. Shoot; I guess that is worth something; maybe they should charge
me extra.
--
Derald
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 10:33 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
The Real Bev wrote:
> On 07/01/10 18:27, The Henchman wrote:
>
>>> Sorry I have no answer for you. It seems we are required to do
>>> everyone else's jobs nowadays. Hence, all the self-checkouts
>>> (which I refuse to use). Remember when people pumped your gas,
>>> checked out and BAGGED your groceries, and delivered and picked up
>>> your mail? Oh it was so long ago. Welcome to America.
>
> I don't have a problem with that. I haven't had anybody pump my gas
> for a LONG time, but checkers and mailpersons are still around. Not
> that that's a big advantage, of course. Bills, junk mail and the
> occasional mail-order package. I generally perfer NOT to pay other
> people to do something I'm perfectly capable of doing.
>
>> Oddly enuf they got rid of self checkouts at the walmart near my
>> work. It's a 190 000 square foot building. They had 10 self
>> checkouts and all of them are now gone. Theft, inability of
>> customers to work the machines and the cost of maintence on the
>> machines.
> I like the self-checkouts
Yeah, me too.
> providing everything has the proper barcode.
You cant cheat with the stuff that doesnt, like fresh fruit and
veg etc, by say selecting much cheaper lemons instead of
limes and pleading ignorance/accident if you get caught.
Even easier with stuff like potatoes to select the cheapest
variety when you have bought the most expensive.
> There's rarely a line when the human-checked lines are four deep.
I hardly ever have to wait at all with the self checkouts.
> The surveys I fill out frequently have a question of the form "Does <something> make you feel like a smart shopper?"
> Mostly the answer is "not especially, I'm ALWAYS a smart shopper" but they never give that as an option.
They dont want to give you a big head, if they
did, the horned helmet wouldnt fit anymore and
you'd be sure to molotov their operation again.
> I DO feel like a smart shopper when I sail through the self-checkout and sneer at the people still waiting in the
> checkout lines, though :-)
Yeah, me too. Tho they are surprisingly popular.
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TOPIC: What abt Costco Credit card from Amex?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 6:34 pm
From: "The Henchman"
"The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Sam's Club looks exactly like Costco, but with slightly different
> products/brands and slightly worse prices.
>
> --
> Cheers, Bev
They closed all the Sam's Clubs down in Canada a couple of years ago.
People weren't fooled. Why have two memberships when one place you could
everything at walmart across the street.
The one benefit to Sam's Clubs here was they had no line-ups, cause nobody
shopped there, and were open at 5 am for businesses.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 6:37 pm
From: "The Henchman"
"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
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> It would be very difficult to not save enough to justify a Costco
> membership. One set of tires or a years worth of gasoline or a single
> major purchase would cover the cost of a membership.
I saved about 150 bucks on a set of premium Michelin tires at Costco one
year during a "sale". Free tire rotations for life as well so that's a
savings of $20 every 6 months. That might have been the only purchase that
year I made at Costco.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 6:54 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 07/01/10 18:34, The Henchman wrote:
> "The Real Bev"<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:i0ifvb$2un$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
>> Sam's Club looks exactly like Costco, but with slightly different
>> products/brands and slightly worse prices.
>
> They closed all the Sam's Clubs down in Canada a couple of years ago.
> People weren't fooled. Why have two memberships when one place you could
> everything at walmart across the street.
>
> The one benefit to Sam's Clubs here was they had no line-ups, cause nobody
> shopped there, and were open at 5 am for businesses.
Daughter has a Costco, a Super Walmart and a Sam's Club within two miles
of her house. Walking distance. She makes those stores her regular
grocery/stuff shopping destinations, bypassing the standard
supermarkets. I truly envy her.
--
Cheers, Bev
/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
You know how dumb the average person is?
Well, by definition, half are *even dumber*!
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TOPIC: Glass tables can injure or kill someone falling on it.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 6:38 pm
From: "The Henchman"
"enough" <blinkingblythe02@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Some glass tables and old shower doors are made of regular glass that
> can break into large shards and kill.
Do you have proof?
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TOPIC: Article: "21 Things You Should Never Buy New"
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 6:41 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 07/01/10 17:18, h wrote:
> "The Real Bev"<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:i0ig7p$215$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 07/01/10 05:37, h wrote:
>>
>>> "The Real Bev"<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:i0gi1a$gc9$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>>> ALWAYS buy used if it's not an emergency; if it IS an emergency you
>>>> can
>>>> use some of the money you saved by buying used when you could!
>>>
>>> Except for shoes and mattresses. Two things I always buy new.
>>
>> I can't buy new shoes unless I have them custom made, and even those would
>> probably not fit right.
>>
>> People with duck feet think it's really nice that other people break in
>> our shoes for us and actually pay for the privilege. I bought several
>> pair of one-month-old Saucony running shoes from a serious runner who
>> changes her shoes every month. A buck a pair. They'll last for several
>> years more.
>
> I have duck feet, too. They are practically square at the metatarsal, and my
> heels are very narrow. But, I have incredibly strong feet (ex-ballet dancer)
> so I can stretch out the box of the shoe in a few hours, as long as it's
> real leather.
Dancers have maybe the ugliest feet on earth. I used to usher at the
Los Angeles Civic Light Opera (big-name musical comedies with big-name
touring companies) and my friends and I would stand at the stage door
afterwards and get autographs. All the dancers wore sandals. I really
felt sorry for them. 'Gnarly' is the best description I can come up with.
K-Mart used to have some black cheesy pumps with tiny heels that fit
really nicely and were maybe $5/pair on sale. If I wore them to work
every day they'd last about a year before they became unusable. I have
several pair I never wore. I tried them on the other day. My feet are
maybe one size wider than in 1995, the last time I regularly wore girly
shoes. If I had to go to some really formal occasion I have no idea
what shoes I might wear.
I think the less-expensive shoes (made in China like everything else)
are designed for Asian feet.
BTW, the USA is still the top manufacturing nation, with China a very
close second. It's the opinion of Those Who Know that China will be #1
next year. The article didn't say what it is that we manufacture the
most of, though.
--
Cheers, Bev
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"I love deadlines... especially the whooshing sound
they make as they go by." -Douglas Adams
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 9:41 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In <i0jg5a$9vi$1@news.eternal-september.org>, The Real Bev wrote in part:
>BTW, the USA is still the top manufacturing nation, with China a very
>close second. It's the opinion of Those Who Know that China will be #1
>next year. The article didn't say what it is that we manufacture the
>most of, though.
Partial manufacture of many automobiles, some fair amount of aircraft
manufacture, a lot of refrigeration and climate control equipment,
"McMansions", medical facilities, a fair amount of building materials, and
I have somewhat of an impression that packaged foods get counted as
"manufactured goods".
I also seem to think medicinces, especially prescription ones that
have prices supported by a protectionist law that causes USA-made
FDA-approved prescription drugs to cost more after zero border crossings
than after 2 border crossings (illegal re-importation).
For that matter, I suspect also medical equipment and medical supplies.
Sarcastically, I wonder if prisons police equipment, and government
buildings count.
In addition, I seem to think that a fair amount of paper, cardboard, and
paper goods and shipping boxes and shipping supplies sold in USA are
actually manufactured in USA. Along with glass bottles and probably most
plastic bottles.
One more thing - the highest-volume types of light bulbs sold in USA
and Canada (40 to 100 watt "A19" ones about to be banned and 2-foot and
4-foot fluorescents) are still mostly made in USA and Canada.
Canada has been gaining manufacturing share from USA in automobiles,
light bulbs, and tools. Likely lately or soon also climate control
equipment and supplies, shipping supplies, building materials, and paper
products.
(For that matter, it appears to me that Canada exports fossil fuels
while USA is the world's greatest importer of those. And furthermore,
it appears to me that Canada nowadays exports a higher percentage of the
food farm products produced than USA does, while back in the last few
decades of the 20th century USA was the world's "breadbasket").
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 10:27 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
The Real Bev wrote:
> On 07/01/10 17:18, h wrote:
>
>> "The Real Bev"<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:i0ig7p$215$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> On 07/01/10 05:37, h wrote:
>>>
>>>> "The Real Bev"<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:i0gi1a$gc9$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>>> ALWAYS buy used if it's not an emergency; if it IS an
>>>>> emergency you can
>>>>> use some of the money you saved by buying used when you could!
>>>>
>>>> Except for shoes and mattresses. Two things I always buy new.
>>>
>>> I can't buy new shoes unless I have them custom made, and even
>>> those would probably not fit right.
>>>
>>> People with duck feet think it's really nice that other people
>>> break in our shoes for us and actually pay for the privilege. I
>>> bought several pair of one-month-old Saucony running shoes from a
>>> serious runner who changes her shoes every month. A buck a pair.
>>> They'll last for several years more.
>>
>> I have duck feet, too. They are practically square at the
>> metatarsal, and my heels are very narrow. But, I have incredibly
>> strong feet (ex-ballet dancer) so I can stretch out the box of the
>> shoe in a few hours, as long as it's real leather.
>
> Dancers have maybe the ugliest feet on earth. I used to usher at the
> Los Angeles Civic Light Opera (big-name musical comedies with big-name
> touring companies) and my friends and I would stand at the stage door
> afterwards and get autographs. All the dancers wore sandals. I
> really felt sorry for them. 'Gnarly' is the best description I can
> come up with.
> K-Mart used to have some black cheesy pumps with tiny heels that fit
> really nicely and were maybe $5/pair on sale. If I wore them to work
> every day they'd last about a year before they became unusable. I
> have several pair I never wore. I tried them on the other day. My
> feet are maybe one size wider than in 1995, the last time I regularly
> wore girly shoes. If I had to go to some really formal occasion I
> have no idea what shoes I might wear.
>
> I think the less-expensive shoes (made in China like everything else)
> are designed for Asian feet.
> BTW, the USA is still the top manufacturing nation,
Yes.
> with China a very close second.
Nope, its a long way behind, only just in front of Japan
http://investing.curiouscatblog.net/2008/09/23/top-manufacturing-countries-in-2007/
> It's the opinion of Those Who Know that China will be #1 next year.
Pure fantasy.
> The article didn't say what it is that we manufacture the most of, though.
Military hardware, aircraft, PC software, movies, TV series, music, pharmaceuticals, food, etc etc etc.
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TOPIC: Fox news pandering to illegal aliens. Their boss Rupert Murdoch is an
amnesty booster.
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 9:10 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In <8945ckFd27U1@mid.individual.net>, Rod Speed wrote in part:
>And 50% of americans pay no nett federal govt income tax.
A fair part of that 50% are children, retirees, unemployed, or
supported by a spouse. It's not just low-income-with-children folks.
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 10:36 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Don Klipstein wrote:
> Rod Speed wrote
>> And 50% of americans pay no nett federal govt income tax.
> A fair part of that 50% are children, retirees, unemployed, or supported by a spouse.
Nope, I should have said taxpayers, not americans.
> It's not just low-income-with-children folks.
Yes, its a hell of a lot of the middle class etc too.
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 11:52 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Rod Speed wrote
> Don Klipstein wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> And 50% of americans pay no nett federal govt income tax.
>> A fair part of that 50% are children, retirees, unemployed, or supported by a spouse.
> Nope, I should have said taxpayers, not americans.
http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html
>> It's not just low-income-with-children folks.
> Yes, its a hell of a lot of the middle class etc too.
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TOPIC: Who get more respect on the road, a cyclist or a dog?
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Date: Thurs, Jul 1 2010 9:29 pm
From: geoffm@lava.net (Geoff Miller)
A dog. Definitely, a dog. And deservedly so.
Why? Because dogs don't go out of their way to
get in the way of traffic.
Geoff
--
"Do you ever get the idea that our government
is a bunch of left-wing undergraduates come to
power?" -- Jay Nordlinger in National Review
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