Wednesday, January 2, 2019

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 10 updates in 4 topics

ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 01 11:05PM -0800

I have been thinking of doing that.
 
Does anyone here already do that?
 
Am I hoping to use a hammer to swat a fly?
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Jan 02 11:41AM -0800

> I have been thinking of doing that.
 
> Does anyone here already do that?
 
> Am I hoping to use a hammer to swat a fly?
 
Depends on what you want to do and how complex it is. Download
LibreOffice (free and very good) and play with the spreadsheet part.
 
My budget-management system is just spending as little as possible,
which seems to have been working well for over 50 years.
 
--
Cheers, Bev
If you are going to try cross-country skiing,
start with a small country.
John Weiss <jrweiss98155@comcast.net>: Jan 02 01:08PM -0800

> I have been thinking of doing that.
 
> Does anyone here already do that?
 
> Am I hoping to use a hammer to swat a fly?
 
I've been doing it for several years.
 
The hard part is to identify ALL income sources and expenditures. The
latter is harder, because we often don't admit we part with money for
some stuff...
 
I start with take-home pay, not gross pay. Payroll deductions for
IRA/401k and Social Security/Medicare never show up in the budget
because they are considered untouchable. Other payroll deductions for
Medical, Dental, etc are added back in, then itemized as expenses later
(so you can analyze if you need to change). Income tax is settled later
as income from a refund or an expense for underpayment.
 
As a starting point, try to rebuild the past year, month by month.
You'll need as many monthly statements as you can find. Then estimate
what you will need month-to-month this year.
 
Categories from my spreadsheet:
 
2018 Actual / 2019 Budget
INCOME
J SOCIAL SECURITY
Net Income
 
J [Org1]
Take Home
+Medical, Dental
Net Income
 
JOHN [Org2]
Net Income
 
F [Org 3]
Take Home
+RHPA
+Dental
Net Income
 
F SOCIAL SECURITY
Take Home
 
INTEREST (no CD reinvest)
CU1
CU2
Tax Refund
 
TOTAL NET INCOME
 
EXPENSES
UTILITIES
Alarm
Electric
Gas
Cell
Cable
Pest Control
Disposal
Water
Newspaper
 
INSURANCE
House & Misc
Car
Long Term Care
Medical
Dental
Vision
Life
 
MEDICAL
Copays
Dental
Vision
 
TAXES
Property
IRS Excess
Car Tags
Dog
 
HOUSE
Credit card other
Food & Drug
Wine
Costco
Home Depot, Lowes, etc
Restaurants
Clothes & Hair
Gas, Parking, & Tolls
Car Maint
Yard Maint
House Maint
Computer
Magazines & Orgs
Legal
Dog
Charity
 
TRAVEL
[Org 1]
[Org 2]
Family
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>: Jan 02 10:45PM

On 02/01/2019 21:08, John Weiss wrote:
 
> As a starting point, try to rebuild the past year, month by month.
> You'll need as many monthly statements as you can find. Then estimate
> what you will need month-to-month this year.
 
snip comprehensive categories
 
OOI, why don't you pay in to a sinking fund? This can cover
unpredictable expenses like broken appliances and uninsured elements of
health care.
 
If you don't spend it in any one time period you have a number of lovely
options - carry over (save), spend at once etc.
 
It's what I do, and I've been lucky enough not to have to use it for a
couple of years. Cue tempting fate :-)
 
 
--
Cheers, Rob
John Weiss <jrweiss98155@comcast.net>: Jan 02 03:15PM -0800

On 1/2/2019 14:45, RJH wrote:
> options - carry over (save), spend at once etc.
 
> It's what I do, and I've been lucky enough not to have to use it for a
> couple of years. Cue tempting fate :-)
 
Each individual will have hir own needs. Thus, each individual will
have a unique budget/spreadsheet. My example was only a starting point
for anyone who otherwise wouldn't know where to start.
 
Another part of the budget that I did not tap was savings. I track
savings and investments separately. Younger folx may want to add
savings into the budget, especially in the years when they are building
their emergency fund. If saving for several discrete goals (e.g.,
vacation, college, house down payment...), budget for each separately.
Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com>: Jan 02 11:58AM -0800


>Is it my imagination or have the underwear racks at the store like quadrupled in size the last ten years?
 
>Lemme guess, people just throw them away now instead of washing?
 
It's not your imagination - the typical ass has quadrupled in size.
Bigger asses->Bigger underwear->Bigger racks to hold them. QED.
 
Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Jan 02 12:07PM -0800

On 01/02/2019 11:58 AM, Dennis wrote:
 
>> Lemme guess, people just throw them away now instead of washing?
 
> It's not your imagination - the typical ass has quadrupled in size.
> Bigger asses->Bigger underwear->Bigger racks to hold them. QED.
 
Walmart has stuff in huge sizes but seem to run out of S and M (HA!)
sizes quickly. Apparently the same with Costco. I have to wonder why
they don't just order more of the smaller sizes.
 
Yet another reason to shop on line.
 
--
Cheers, Bev
It's not the speed that kills, it's the stopping.
Michael Black <mblack@pubnix.net>: Jan 02 03:41PM -0500

On Wed, 2 Jan 2019, The Real Bev wrote:
 
> quickly. Apparently the same with Costco. I have to wonder why they don't
> just order more of the smaller sizes.
 
> Yet another reason to shop on line.
 
I've noticed that groups that sell tshirts, as a fundraiser or promotion,
often seem to have more of the larger sizes. Even the local Fringe
Festival had volunteer tshirts that always seemed to be too big.
 
My guess is that if they run out, they'd rather deal with the smaller
people than have to tell the bigger people that there's nothing in tbheir
size.
 
Large look silly on small, but they fit, while too small on a large person
doesn't really work out.
 
The only other explanation is that they actually order the same number of
each size tshirt, but the larger ones have fewer takers, so they remain at
the end.
 
Michael
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 02 10:49AM -0800

> Have you ever done that?
 
Has anyone bought from this company?:
 
https://www.shoes.com/s.jsp/r_prof/d_AdultM/b_0?Category=Casual&Size=8&GeneralWidth=EW
Beaver_Fever@live.com: Jan 01 08:08PM -0800

On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 11:52:32 AM UTC-8, catalpa wrote:
 
> > Get passport.
 
> > Harvest points and take more vacations.
 
> You messed up by sleeping through 2018.
 
I am looking at my detailed diary of everything I did in 2018. Good thing I wrote it all down as it happened because I don't really remember any of this.
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