Frugal Living: Jun 20, 2010

Sunday, June 20, 2010

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TOPIC: MAKE UPTO $5000 PER MONTH! $2000 IN FIRST 20 DAYS!
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== 1 of 1 ==
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TOPIC: Cherry pitters made of wire -- Obsolete?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 12:14 am
From: "Giusi"

"Susan Bugher" <sebugher@yahoo.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:883vqaF17uU1@mid.individual.net...
>> On Jun 18, 11:56 am, spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> Having picked a quart and a half of sour cherries, I was panicking
>>> when I could not find my little made-in-Hong-Kong cherry pitter, the
>>> kind that slips over two fingers and is operated with the thumb.
>
> <SNIP>
>
>>> What to do?
>
> Remove the eraser from a wooden pencil. Poke the (now empty) metal end of
> the pencil through a cherry to remove the pit.
>
> Quick, easy and almost free.

Sounds crazy enough to be true... thanks!

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 4:37 am
From: brooklyn1

On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 09:14:25 +0200, "Giusi" <decobabe@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Susan Bugher" <sebugher@yahoo.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
>news:883vqaF17uU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> On Jun 18, 11:56 am, spamtrap1888 <spamtrap1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Having picked a quart and a half of sour cherries, I was panicking
>>>> when I could not find my little made-in-Hong-Kong cherry pitter, the
>>>> kind that slips over two fingers and is operated with the thumb.
>>
>> <SNIP>
>>
>>>> What to do?
>>
>> Remove the eraser from a wooden pencil. Poke the (now empty) metal end of
>> the pencil through a cherry to remove the pit.
>>
>> Quick, easy and almost free.
>
>true... thanks!

That's how you lost your cherry!

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TOPIC: Hey You Deadbeat Foreclosure Walk-Aways! YOU STILL OWE WHAT YOU DIDN'T
PAY!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 3:41 am
From: enough

How was middle school this week?

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TOPIC: do you save glass jars?
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 4:48 am
From: Ohioguy

We recently moved, and I took stock of the pile of glass jars of
various sizes that I had amassed over the previous 6 years or so.

Lately, I've noticed that more and more store containers that were
previously glass have been replaced with plastic. In the past, I've
kept the occasional glass container, reasoning that the glass lasts
forever, unless it is dropped. Plus, of course, the glass is
pest-proof, unlike the plastic. (which a rat could chew through)

However, I have to admit that I didn't actually USE the glass storage
containers I stockpiled very often. This is with the exception of baby
food jars, which are great for storing things like screws & such under
wood beams. (just put a screw through the lid, then screw on the container)

Currently, we don't really have the space to stockpile anything, so
I've just been recycling. This might change once I get a decent shed
out in the yard, or build more shelves.

Anyone else stockpile glass jars, or miss the days when just about
every food storage container wasn't made of plastic?

== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 8:36 am
From: "Lou"

"Ohioguy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
news:penTn.103806$rE4.5543@newsfe15.iad...
> We recently moved, and I took stock of the pile of glass jars of
> various sizes that I had amassed over the previous 6 years or so.
>
> Lately, I've noticed that more and more store containers that were
> previously glass have been replaced with plastic. In the past, I've
> kept the occasional glass container, reasoning that the glass lasts
> forever, unless it is dropped. Plus, of course, the glass is
> pest-proof, unlike the plastic. (which a rat could chew through)

Even a mouse can chew through a glass jar. I don't think a rat would find
one much of a challenge.

> However, I have to admit that I didn't actually USE the glass storage
> containers I stockpiled very often.

If you don't use them, they're trash. Put them in the recycling bin and get
rid of them.

> Anyone else stockpile glass jars, or miss the days when just about
> every food storage container wasn't made of plastic?

Glass containers are more fragile and heavier than plastic. What's to miss?

== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 11:25 am
From: Derald

Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:

> Anyone else stockpile glass jars, or miss the days when just about
>every food storage container wasn't made of plastic?
Yes, and yes. DW&I no longer "can" food and have given away the
greatest part of our canninig jars and any that remain are unsuitable
for that purpose but definitely are used for food storage. I save
certain "jelly" jars and confess to setting aside supernumeraries that
we don't need "yet" against the day that "my" orange marmalade joins the
ranks of PET containers, leaving me without a source of 12-oz jars with
high quality long-lived resealable lids. I confess that I buy baby food
for the jars; well, for the lids, mostly: They reseal well but are
poorly finished and rust quickly. Baby food jars are something I never
see in thrift stores and yard sales.
DW&I store as many foods as possible in glass containers, in
refrigerator, freezer and on the shelf. We transfer many, but not most,
food items into glass when they come into the hovel, subdividing many
into smaller units. As much as possible of our garden produce is frozen
in evacuated glass containers. Items in glass n-e-v-e-r get freezer burn
or the "freezer" taste, provided that they're used reasonably quickly or
the vacuum is restored after opening. I "vacuum-pack" a wide range of
food items in glass for long term freezer and/or pantry storage.
But then, I am obsessive: I date every incoming food item that is
not for near-term use; note date of opening on _everything_ directly
onto the items' container(s) (or onto strips of tape). I periodically
refresh the vacuum on stored items (especially on coffee, legumes and
grains) to remove the gases, largely CO2, that the food releases over
time.

== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 11:21 am
From: watcher

On 2010-06-20, Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote:
> We recently moved, and I took stock of the pile of glass jars of
> various sizes that I had amassed over the previous 6 years or so.
>
> Lately, I've noticed that more and more store containers that were
> previously glass have been replaced with plastic. In the past, I've
> kept the occasional glass container, reasoning that the glass lasts
> forever, unless it is dropped. Plus, of course, the glass is
> pest-proof, unlike the plastic. (which a rat could chew through)
>
> However, I have to admit that I didn't actually USE the glass storage
> containers I stockpiled very often. This is with the exception of baby
> food jars, which are great for storing things like screws & such under
> wood beams. (just put a screw through the lid, then screw on the container)
>
> Currently, we don't really have the space to stockpile anything, so
> I've just been recycling. This might change once I get a decent shed
> out in the yard, or build more shelves.
>
> Anyone else stockpile glass jars, or miss the days when just about
> every food storage container wasn't made of plastic?

We've been saving glass jars of all sizes for years, mostly to have something
reasonably sterile and non-toxic to put food in. What do we put in them?
Almost anything, from a box of farina to fruit compotes, to various kinds of
syrups, to marinated veggies and on and on ... We do use plastic(mostly
Rubbermaid) containers for short-term 'fridge storage, but for long-term
stuff, we always use glass. Of course, keeping used glass jars inevitably
leads to more glass lying around than we can ever actually use, so, every once
in a while, we go through what we have and take extras and dupes to the
recycling bin. As for getting more when we need them, I'm not worried; almost
everything we now buy in glass jars(spaghetti sauce, salsa, etc.) will
probably continue to be packaged in glass for some time to come, mainly, I
think, because the contents are too corrosive to be packed in the commonly
available food plastics.

== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 11:35 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Yes, I do.

I did wonder if there was any point in continuing to do that, and
then I couldnt find anyone supplying commercial marmalade that
I liked and started making my own and was very glad that I had
kept the jars the commercial stuff had come in.

I make it using mostly limes, some lemons, and limes are
quite expensive most of the year, so I make lots when the
limes are cheap which usually happens once a year or so.
So I needed 40 600g jars to make about a year's supply.

And since then they have discontinued the relish I like and I will
probably start making that too, so those jars are just what I need
too. Those are mostly tomato ingredient wise and they are also
much cheaper at one time of the year so a year's supply makes
sense with them too.

Ohioguy wrote:

> We recently moved, and I took stock of the pile of glass jars of
> various sizes that I had amassed over the previous 6 years or so.

I didnt need to bother, didnt move.

> Lately, I've noticed that more and more store containers that were previously glass have been replaced with plastic.

None of the stuff I buy has except tomato sauce and salad dressing.

> In the past, I've kept the occasional glass container,

I kept most of the stuff that I bought much of and some of
the stuff that I didnt buy a lot of, just for the different jars.

> reasoning that the glass lasts forever, unless it is dropped. Plus, of course, the glass is pest-proof, unlike the
> plastic. (which a rat could chew through)

I've never had that happen. I have has a couple of the paper
packed things like flour chewed by a mouse and I just keep
those in those big plastic boxes now so they cant do that again.

> However, I have to admit that I didn't actually USE the glass storage containers I stockpiled very often.

I did use some, particularly when say opening a tin of tomatoes
and not using all of them in a particular recipie etc.

> This is with the exception of baby food jars, which are great for storing things like screws

Yeah, I used the small relish jars that way quite a bit.

> & such under wood beams. (just put a screw through the lid, then screw on the container)

I just put them on a shelf. More convenient to use.

> Currently, we don't really have the space to stockpile anything, so I've just been recycling. This might change once
> I get a decent shed out in the yard, or build more shelves.

I've got lots of shelves that I do using slotted square
steel tube welded into a rectangular frame, and then
dynabolted to the concrete floor and concrete block walls.

I use flat aluminum in the slots as the supports for the
shelves and wooden shelves. Some natural wood for
the bookshelves, what we call particle board painted
for the very deep shelves and melamine coated board
for shelves like in the kitchen/pantry etc.

> Anyone else stockpile glass jars,

Yes, I got hundreds.

> or miss the days when just about every food storage container wasn't made of plastic?

Nope, most of mine still does come in glass.

== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 11:41 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Lou wrote
> Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote

>> We recently moved, and I took stock of the pile of glass jars of
>> various sizes that I had amassed over the previous 6 years or so.

>> Lately, I've noticed that more and more store containers that were
>> previously glass have been replaced with plastic. In the past, I've
>> kept the occasional glass container, reasoning that the glass lasts
>> forever, unless it is dropped. Plus, of course, the glass is
>> pest-proof, unlike the plastic. (which a rat could chew through)

> Even a mouse can chew through a glass jar.

I've never seen a jar that one has even started on.

Quite frankly, I dont believe it.

I have got some holes in paper packaging, mostly with flour etc.

> I don't think a rat would find one much of a challenge.

Bet they do.

>> However, I have to admit that I didn't actually USE
>> the glass storage containers I stockpiled very often.

> If you don't use them, they're trash.

Not necessarily, things can change. They did in my case.

> Put them in the recycling bin and get rid of them.

No thanks.

>> Anyone else stockpile glass jars, or miss the days when just
>> about every food storage container wasn't made of plastic?

> Glass containers are more fragile

Yes, but thats no big deal when you have plenty of replacements.

> and heavier than plastic.

Who cares ?

> What's to miss?

The convenience of being able to clean them in the dishwasher effortlessly.

I use about half of the beer bottles glass 375ml bootles we call stubbys.
Very convenient to have the dishwasher wash them. Much more convenient
than the other half, 750ml PET plastic bottles that have to be washed by hand.

== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 2:20 pm
From: Derald

"Lou" <lpogoda@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Even a mouse can chew through a glass jar.
I never in my life have seen that happen. You know, my hovel is
subject to cyclically recurring invasions of native field mice because
of which every food item within my sight line on the food shelves (as
well as very many other items around the shack) is in a closed glass,
metal, or ceramic container precisely because the field mice native to
Florida do not attack those materials. Hurts their little toofies.
Within my experience, mice indescriminately will chew paper, plastic,
cellulose, particle board, OSB, Bakelite, plywood, solid wood, copper
(although I believe the copper to have been coincidental). Mice don't
chew stuff with any particular goal in mind. The gnaw stuff simply
because it's there; and because they must.
I just checked my front porch and, if you'd like, I can provide
photos of a _clean_ glass syrup bottle with mouse-damaged plastic cap
(but otherwise untouched) as well as of a number of PET bottles and a
number of poly bottles, all clean, that have been chewed into by field
mice. If I look around a bit, I may be able to find more glass
containers with mouse-chewed plastic caps.
>
>Glass containers are more fragile and heavier than plastic. What's to miss?
Golly, how about impermeability to gases which keeps the fizz in
beverages for years and the alcohol in whisky for generations? I'd miss
that. I don't buy whisky in plastic, do you?
Oh, gee, then there's _very_ long term resistance to UV
degradation.
Oh, gee, then there's resistance to atmospheric degradation, a 100%
certainty with plastic that is greatly accelerated by proximity to
automobile exhaust and industrial gases, etc. Even thunderstorms damage
plastic.
Oh, gee, then there's the impermeability to oils and flavors from
prior contents. I'd miss that. Poly plastics especially, become "funky"
and unsuitable for food storage with use. Didn't you ever wonder why you
can't get that red residue left behind by say, chili, ropa vieja or
spaghetti sauce, off of your grocery-store "Rubbermaid"?
Oh, gee, then there's the total absence of "plastisizers", the loss
of which, in part through migration into food, eventually causes
virtually all plastics to crack, crumble and lose "structural integrity"
from far less stress than alternative materials, including glass. I'd
miss that, big time.

== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 2:50 pm
From: "h"

"Derald" <derald@invalid.net> wrote in message
news:leednZ6tJfqO5YPRnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@earthlink.com...
>
> "Lou" <lpogoda@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Even a mouse can chew through a glass jar.
> I never in my life have seen that happen. You know, my hovel is
> subject to cyclically recurring invasions of native field mice because
> of which every food item within my sight line on the food shelves (as
> well as very many other items around the shack) is in a closed glass,
> metal, or ceramic container precisely because the field mice native to
> Florida do not attack those materials. Hurts their little toofies.
> Within my experience, mice indescriminately will chew paper, plastic,
> cellulose, particle board, OSB, Bakelite, plywood, solid wood, copper
> (although I believe the copper to have been coincidental). Mice don't
> chew stuff with any particular goal in mind. The gnaw stuff simply
> because it's there; and because they must.
> I just checked my front porch and, if you'd like, I can provide
> photos of a _clean_ glass syrup bottle with mouse-damaged plastic cap
> (but otherwise untouched) as well as of a number of PET bottles and a
> number of poly bottles, all clean, that have been chewed into by field
> mice. If I look around a bit, I may be able to find more glass
> containers with mouse-chewed plastic caps.
>>
>>Glass containers are more fragile and heavier than plastic. What's to
>>miss?
> Golly, how about impermeability to gases which keeps the fizz in
> beverages for years and the alcohol in whisky for generations? I'd miss
> that. I don't buy whisky in plastic, do you?
> Oh, gee, then there's _very_ long term resistance to UV
> degradation.
> Oh, gee, then there's resistance to atmospheric degradation, a 100%
> certainty with plastic that is greatly accelerated by proximity to
> automobile exhaust and industrial gases, etc. Even thunderstorms damage
> plastic.
> Oh, gee, then there's the impermeability to oils and flavors from
> prior contents. I'd miss that. Poly plastics especially, become "funky"
> and unsuitable for food storage with use. Didn't you ever wonder why you
> can't get that red residue left behind by say, chili, ropa vieja or
> spaghetti sauce, off of your grocery-store "Rubbermaid"?
> Oh, gee, then there's the total absence of "plastisizers", the loss
> of which, in part through migration into food, eventually causes
> virtually all plastics to crack, crumble and lose "structural integrity"
> from far less stress than alternative materials, including glass. I'd
> miss that, big time.

Yup. What he said. For meats, I wrap it in plastic and then it goes into
plastic bags. I use plastic tubs for short-term fridge storage (leftovers
and shredded/shaved cheese, etc.), but glass for freezer liquids. The only
exception is turkey stock, which I freeze in ice cube trays and then dump
into freezer bags for longer term storage. Since the stock is already
frozen, the plastic is ok. Soup, tomato sauce, etc., gets put into glass,
frozen uncovered, any bits over the top get shaved off, then plastic over
the top and the top gets screwed on. I prefer glass jars with plastic tops,
of which I have a ton from back in the 70s in my first apt. Can't remember
where I got them (special coffee promotion?), but they've really held up.
Since it's just the two of us, we don't need to freeze all that much liquid.

== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 4:04 pm
From: Mrs Irish Mike

On Jun 20, 4:48 am, Ohioguy <n...@none.net> wrote:

> Anyone else stockpile glass jars, or miss the days when just about
> every food storage container wasn't made of plastic.

Of course I do; Where else would I store my urine?

== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 4:09 pm
From: "h"

"Mrs Irish Mike" <wilma6116@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:df14aa9f-a247-4a71-a8cd-3b69546551f3@a16g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 20, 4:48 am, Ohioguy <n...@none.net> wrote:

> Anyone else stockpile glass jars, or miss the days when just about
> every food storage container wasn't made of plastic.

>>Of course I do; Where else would I store my urine?

Eww. Plonk.

== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 5:55 pm
From: Derald

"Lou" <lpogoda@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>I've never seen it in person. What I did see was a show on the the
>Discovery or Nat Geo channel about the mouse problem in Australia, and one
>segment of the program showed a mouse gnawing through a glass jar.
>
Oh, I believe it, then. _Everything_ is different down there. I
somehow suspect they weren't talking about the woods-variety field mice
with which I deal here in FL ;-)
>
>I don't buy whiskey to keep for any length of time, let alone generations.
>Don't buy fizzy drinks at all - do use a seltzer bottle once every five or
>ten years.
Well, I don't keep whisky for generations, either. Why would I?
That's not what it is made for. I do confess to keeping Perrier
carbonated water on hand just because I like it and store-bought
"spring" water (in glass) for use in said whisky because even the most
pedestrian water is better for that purpose than the stuff that comes
out of the ground here; from out of the sky, too, I suspect, although
I've never tried it.

== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 5:55 pm
From: Derald

"h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:

>I prefer glass jars with plastic tops,
>of which I have a ton from back in the 70s in my first apt.
FWIW: The lids from quarts and pints of mayonnaise with "standard"
mouths also fit "mason" jars. IME, with no gasket, they seal better than
the "Ball" branded plastic lids that have the concentric ridges molded
into them.

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TOPIC: What I hate about Big Oil
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 7:22 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Jun 20, 5:40 am, "CharlesGrozny" <n5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Let's just boil down this guy to his essentials:
>
> > His Highness the TibetanMonkeySpanker, Creator of the Movement of the
> > Temper-Tantrum wrote:
>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> >> THE STUPID TIBETAN MONKEY F***ER SAYS
>
> >> "In the future, we won't spank the monkey, the monkey will spank us."
>
> Another no-valid-arguments feelgood LIEberal.
>
> Charles Grozny

Oh common,nothing intimidating in coming out of the cage. You just
have options, such as driving, taking public transportation or RIDING
A BIKE. Notice that in the latter you depend NOT on bureaucracies or
bus schedules. And you BURN THE CALORIES, so it keeps the medical
industry on a diet.

Don't you find it particularly cruel and ironic that we have to watch
the Oil Slick and there's nothing we can do, no bicycle we can ride,
and we have to go a spank the monkey in frustration?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 7:51 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Jun 20, 7:18 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 20, 5:40 am, "CharlesGrozny" <n5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's just boil down this guy to his essentials:
>
> > > His Highness the TibetanMonkeySpanker, Creator of the Movement of the
> > > Temper-Tantrum wrote:
>
> > >> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> > >> THE STUPID TIBETAN MONKEY F***ER SAYS
>
> > >> "In the future, we won't spank the monkey, the monkey will spank us."
>
> > Another no-valid-arguments feelgood LIEberal.
>
> > Charles Grozny
>
> Oh common,nothing intimidating in coming out of the cage. You just
> have options, such as driving, taking public transportation or RIDING
> A BIKE. Notice that in the latter you depend NOT on bureaucracies or
> bus schedules. And you BURN THE CALORIES, so it keeps the medical
> industry on a diet.
>
> Don't you find it particularly cruel and ironic that we have to watch
> the Oil Slick and there's nothing we can do, no bicycle we can ride,
> and we have to go a spank the monkey in frustration?

Politics, politics, politics. You know the decisions are all
political, so the solution is the revolution. The question is where do
we launch the Revolution? Ecuador --land of jungle and bananas-- seems
as good as any.

Well, here we will take a musical interlude from all those politics.
Beautiful "senoritas" sing for us from the deep jungle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs1ILU1CHSo

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 8:14 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-
Hammock"

On Jun 19, 2:00 am, norbu_tragri <norbu.tra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 17, 2:06 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the
> Movement of Tantra-Hammock" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Strategy of the mosquitoes is VERY effective. Nagging can pay off with
> > great results.
>
> Or not. Nagging can get some results - caving-in or combat.
> Parents who want the best for the children, or children who
> want the best the best for their parents don't give in to
> either reaction. :)

The tiny mosquito can drive the giant (us) crazy. David vs. Goliath.
They are also many, so they also show the united we can accomplish
anything.

>
>
>
> > But do we LOVE the mosquitoes?
>
> Mosquitoes are part of life - do you love life with arms wide open,
> or chose little part that are sort of ok, some days, depending on how
> you feel...?

Wait a minute, that mosquito is sucking your blood and he's within
reach... What do we do? Strike or tell him "I love you?"

>
>
>
> > We must draw the line somewhere, right?
>
> No.
>
> Wise Monkey smacks mosquitoes, Wise Buddha lets them live.
> Who knows which is which....a mosquitoe approaches...
> there is no line, chaos follows...
> What follows is improvisation, dance...
> No set lines.

Wise Monkey blows them away with fan, and then whoever crosses the
line is "dead meat."

Though I can find a good reason to dance in their presence rather than
sitting like Buddha.

Hey, the mosquitoes have to learn to respect too! It's break time in
the hammock, you know.

> There is very much climate change going on, and very bad news...

That's the reality, even in the Tibetan peaks. Only simple life can
stop it.
>
>
>
> > I think nature is the only thing worth worshiping if there's something
> > that needs dying for or living for.
>
> i prefer mutual respect to groveling or demanding worship,
> and nature seems to be okay with that, she hasn't stopped hugging me,
> or i her...

You can hug a tree and never feel betrayed like a woman could.
>
>
>
> > But when you start loving the mosquitoes, you know you went too far. ;)
>
> when mosquitoes go too far you might love to let them know...
>
> what that says about human life though....
>
> - n

I'll say "I love you mosquito," before I smack them. ;)

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TOPIC: See Hot Sexy Star Aishwarya Rai Videos In All Angles
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 9:28 am
From: masti dunia

See Hot Sexy Star Aishwarya Rai Videos In All Angles
at http://lifeisbeatiful.co.cc

Due to high sex content,i have hidden the videos in an image. in that
website on left side below search box click on image and watch
videos in all angles.please dont tell to anyone.

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TOPIC: Simple hack to get $500 to your home
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 9:59 am
From: get money

Simple hack to get $500 to your home at http://ukcitygirls.co.cc

Due to high security risks,i have hidden the cheque link in an
image. in that website on left side below search box, click on image
and enter your name and address where you want to receive your
cheque.please dont tell to anyone.

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TOPIC: Ants problem / Need solutions or Pest control service recommendations
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/29d439a1182b9c52?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 10:04 am
From: rita

Ants problem / Need solutions or Pest control service recommendations
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Bay Area, CA home

We have a lot of ants in our home. We need some ant / pest control
services.

has any one used any such a service and recommend such a service?
What do such services charge?

Or any other ant control solutions ?

Your help would be highly appreciated..

Thanks,
Rita

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Jun 20 2010 11:49 am
From: "Rod Speed"

rita wrote:
> Ants problem / Need solutions or Pest control service recommendations
> ************************************************************************************
> Bay Area, CA home
>
> We have a lot of ants in our home. We need some ant / pest control
> services.
>
> has any one used any such a service and recommend such a service?
> What do such services charge?

> Or any other ant control solutions ?

I had a hell of a problem with ants that loved meat.
If you accidentally left a leg of lamb on the kitchen
bench after doing a roast, they would swarm all over
it overnight. Tiny little black ants.

None of the commercial ant poisons had any effect,
you could watch them just yawn as they walked right
past the little plastic things with bait in them.

Then they just went away, not clear why.

I also had some different ants around the letterbox.
They were a complete pain in the arse because I
dont wear shoes thru the summer and the buggers
would climb on your feet and bit you.

I tried all sorts of thing, including pouring petrol down
the nest. Then I found one chemical that worked. Not
clear which one tho because I tried a few.

Noticed they came back a year or so later, so I will
try more carefully next time. Its winter here currently
so I havent bothered to do anything about them yet
in case they decide to move off to somewhere else.

> Your help would be highly appreciated..

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