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Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 6:19 am
From: Wooly

tina_cro wrote:
> Curly or straight hair?
>
> Do you like curly or straight hair?

My straight hair is pretty frugal: I cleanse with baking soda and
vinegar, I use cheap conditioner from the dollar store, and I've been
using the same wooden comb since college. I do buy a fancy hairstick or
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Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 10:51 am
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"Anthony Matonak" <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote...
>>
>> Which is cheaper?
>
> There IS a difference between cheap and frugal.
> You want the one that gives you best results for
> the buck.

In that case, whatever comes out naturally!

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TOPIC: YOU MUST KNOW THIS MAN
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 7:29 am
From: abdo911

Allow me to share with you here some information about one man his
name is muhammad.

In The Name Of Allaah,
Most Gracious, Most Merciful
YOU MUST KNOW THIS MAN
MUHAMMAD
(May peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him)
You may be an atheist or an agnostic; or you may belong to anyone of
the religious denominations that exist in the world today. You may be
a Communist or a believer in democracy and freedom. No matter what you
are, and no matter what your religious and political beliefs, personal
and social habits happen to be - YOU MUST STILL KNOW THIS MAN!
He was by far the most remarkable man that ever set foot on this
earth. He preached a religion, founded a state, built a nation, laid
down a moral code, initiated numberless social and political reforms,
established a dynamic and powerful society to practice and represent
his teachings, and completely revolutionized the worlds of human
thought and action for all times to come.
HIS NAME IS MUHAMMAD, peace and blessings of Almighty God be upon him
and he accomplished all these wonders in the unbelievably short span
of twenty-three years.
Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him was born in
Arabia on the 20th of August, in the year 570 of the Christian era,
and when he died after 63 years, the whole of the Arabian Peninsula
had changed from paganism and idol-worship to the worship of One God;
from tribal quarrels and wars to national solidarity and cohesion;
from drunkenness and debauchery to sobriety and piety; from
lawlessness and anarchy to disciplined living; from utter moral
bankruptcy to the highest standards of moral excellence. Human history
has never known such a complete transformation of a people or a place
before or since!
The Encyclopedia Britannica calls him "the most successful of all
religious personalities of the world". Bernard Shaw said about him
that if Muhammad were alive today he would succeed in solving all
those problems which threaten to destroy human civilization in our
times. Thomas Carlysle was simply amazed as to how one man, single-
handedly, could weld warring tribes and wandering Bedouins into a most
powerful and civilized nation in less than two decades. Napoleon and
Gandhi never tired of dreaming of a society along the lines
established by this man in Arabia fourteen centuries ago.
Indeed no other human being ever accomplished so much, in such diverse
fields of human thought and behavior, in so limited a space of time,
as did Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him. He
was a religious teacher, a social reformer, a moral guide, a political
thinker, a military genius, an administrative colossus, a faithful
friend, a wonderful companion, a devoted husband, a loving father -
all in one. No other man in history ever excelled or equaled him in
any of these difficult departments of life.
The world has had its share of great personalities. But these were one
sided figures who distinguished themselves in but one or two fields
such as religious thought or military leadership. None of the other
great leaders of the world ever combined in himself so many different
qualities to such an amazing level of perfection as did Muhammad,
peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him.
The lives and teachings of other great personalities of the world are
shrouded in the mist of time. There is so much speculation about the
time and the place of their birth, the mode and style of their life,
the nature and detail of their teachings and the degree and measure of
their success or failure that it is impossible for humanity today to
reconstruct accurately and precisely the lives and teachings of those
men.
Not so this man Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon
him. Not only was he born in the fullest blaze of recorded history,
but every detail of his private and public life, of his actions and
utterances, has been accurately documented and faithfully preserved to
our day. The authenticity of the information so preserved is vouched
for not only by faithful followers but also by unbiased critics and
open-minded scholars.
At the level of ideas there is no system of thought and belief-secular
or religious, social or political-which could surpass or equal ISLAAM-
the system which Muhammad peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon
him propounded. In a fast changing world, while other systems have
undergone profound transformations, Islaam alone has remained above
all change and mutation, and retained its original form for the past
1400 years. What is more, the positive changes that are taking place
in the world of human thought and behavior, truly and consistently
reflect the healthy influence of Islam in these areas. Further, it is
not given to the best of thinkers to put their ideas completely into
practice, and to see the seeds of their labors grow and bear fruit, in
their own lifetime. Except of course, Muhammad, peace and blessings of
God Almighty be upon him, who not only preached the most wonderful
ideas but also successfully translated each one of them into practice
in his own lifetime. At the time of his death his teachings were not
mere precepts and ideas straining for fulfillment, but had become the
very core of the life of tens of thousands of perfectly trained
individuals, each one of whom was a marvelous personification of
everything that Muhammad peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon
him taught and stood for. At what other time or place and in relation
to what other political, social, religious system, philosophy or
ideology-did the world ever witness such a perfectly amazing
phenomenon?
Indeed no other system or ideology secular or religious, social or
political, ancient or modern - could ever claim the distinction of
having been put into practice in its fullness and entirety EVEN ONCE
in this world, either before or after the death of its founder. Except
of course ISLAAM, the ideology preached by Muhammad, peace and
blessings of God Almighty be upon him which was established as a
complete way of life by the teacher himself, before he departed from
this world. History bears testimony to this fact and the greatest
skeptics have no option but to concede this point.
In spite of these amazing achievements and in spite of the countless
absolutely convincing and authentic miracles performed by him and the
phenomenal success which crowned his efforts, he did not for a moment
claim to be God or God's incarnation or Son - but only a human being
who was chosen and ordained by God to be a teacher of truth to man
kind and a complete model and pattern for their actions.
He was nothing more or less than a human being. But he was a man with
a noble and exalted mission-and his unique mission was to unite
humanity on the worship of ONE AND ONLY GOD and to teach them the way
to honest and upright living in accordance with the laws and commands
of God. He always described himself as A MESSENGER AND SERVANT OF GOD,
and so indeed every single action and movement of his proclaimed him
to be.
A world which has not hesitated to raise to Divinity individuals whose
very lives and missions have been lost in legend and who historically
speaking did not accomplish half as much-or even one tenth-as was
accomplished by Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon
him should stop to take serious note of this remarkable man's claim to
be God's messenger to mankind.
Today after the lapse of some 1400 years the life and teachings of
Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him,
have survived without the slightest loss, alteration or interpolation.
Today they offer the same undying hope for treating mankind's many
ills which they did when Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings of God
Almighty be upon him, was alive. This is our honest claim and this is
the inescapable conclusion forced upon us by a critical and unbiased
study of history.
The least YOU should do as a thinking, sensitive, concerned human
being is to stop for one brief moment and ask yourself: Could it be
that these statements, extraordinary and revolutionary as they sound,
are really true? Supposing they really are true, and you did not know
this man Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him or
hear about his teachings? Or did not know him well and intimately
enough to be able to benefit from his guidance and example? Isn't it
time you responded to this tremendous challenge and made some effort
to know him? It will not cost you anything but it may well prove to be
the beginning of a completely new era in your life.
Come, let us make a new discovery of the life of this wonderful man
Muhammad, peace and blessings of God Almighty be upon him the like of
whom never walked on this earth, and whose example and teachings can
change YOUR LIFE and OUR WORLD for the better. May God shower His
choicest blessings upon him!
Written by S.H. Pasha

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TOPIC: Worst Buy, Circuit Shitty Reps Push Unnecessary Recovery Discs
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/23ef57024aa4ed16?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 7:58 am
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

When Ian Griffith of Queens, New York, purchased an HP notebook from a
Circuit City store in Brooklyn earlier this year, the salesperson urged him
to have the chain's in-store Fire Dog technicians create Windows XP recovery
discs in case Griffith needed to reinstall the OS.

"I specifically asked if this was something I could do on my own," Griffith
says, and the answer was no. The salesperson, Griffith says, insisted that
there were only two ways to obtain such discs: have them made at the store
for $30, or buy them from HP for nearly twice as much.

But the clerk's assertions simply aren't true. Recovery discs are fairly
easy to make yourself. And if you don't want to take on the responsibility
of burning your own, you can buy them from HP for half what Circuit City
charges.

In the end, just before handing over his credit card at the cash register,
Griffith called a tech-savvy friend, who told him he could make the backup
discs himself.

rest here:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136496/article.html

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 8:45 am
From: Dennis

On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:58:21 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"
<derjda@hotmail.com> wrote:

>When Ian Griffith of Queens, New York, purchased an HP notebook from a
>Circuit City store in Brooklyn earlier this year, the salesperson urged him
>to have the chain's in-store Fire Dog technicians create Windows XP recovery
>discs in case Griffith needed to reinstall the OS.
>
>"I specifically asked if this was something I could do on my own," Griffith
>says, and the answer was no. The salesperson, Griffith says, insisted that
>there were only two ways to obtain such discs: have them made at the store
>for $30, or buy them from HP for nearly twice as much.
>
>But the clerk's assertions simply aren't true. Recovery discs are fairly
>easy to make yourself. And if you don't want to take on the responsibility
>of burning your own, you can buy them from HP for half what Circuit City
>charges.
>
>In the end, just before handing over his credit card at the cash register,
>Griffith called a tech-savvy friend, who told him he could make the backup
>discs himself.

As always, those who don't understand the technology are at the mercy
of those who do.

Dennis (evil)
--
I'm behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, riding the wave,
dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 3:33 pm
From: "ricok987"

Actually, when I purchased my HP direct-I burned my own recovery DVD-it was
a free customizable option.
"AllEmailDeletedImmediately" <derjda@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:h0WBi.3$453.2@trndny02...
> When Ian Griffith of Queens, New York, purchased an HP notebook from a
> Circuit City store in Brooklyn earlier this year, the salesperson urged
> him to have the chain's in-store Fire Dog technicians create Windows XP
> recovery discs in case Griffith needed to reinstall the OS.
>
> "I specifically asked if this was something I could do on my own,"
> Griffith says, and the answer was no. The salesperson, Griffith says,
> insisted that there were only two ways to obtain such discs: have them
> made at the store for $30, or buy them from HP for nearly twice as much.
>
> But the clerk's assertions simply aren't true. Recovery discs are fairly
> easy to make yourself. And if you don't want to take on the responsibility
> of burning your own, you can buy them from HP for half what Circuit City
> charges.
>
> In the end, just before handing over his credit card at the cash register,
> Griffith called a tech-savvy friend, who told him he could make the backup
> discs himself.
>
> rest here:
>
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136496/article.html
>

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 3:36 pm
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

"Dennis" <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gpdgd3pit26inni1j2a86l6ai78b4ruqjp@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:58:21 GMT, "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

> I'm behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, riding the wave,
> dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin

busy guy :)

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TOPIC: Warranty Dilemma : What Would You Do ?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/e34a8cfb31f32988?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 9:33 am
From: Jeffy3

On Aug 30, 10:01 pm, Rick <ricka...@rcn.com> wrote:
> Jeffy3 wrote:
>
> > Bought a portable dvd player at Best Buy in April for $130. Magnavox
> > brand name MPD850 to be specific. Didn't use it a heck of a lot, only
> > for occasional trips in the car to keep our four year-old from asking
> > "Are we there yet" a hundred times. Never dropped it and thought we
> > took good care of it. Last week tried to power it up in the car and
> > it's dead. Doesn't work with the car charger, doesn't work with the
> > AC adaptor in the house. Dead as a doornail. Called Initial today,
> > which is the actual manufacturer of this unit, and was told after 90
> > days labor will cost me $49, even though the parts are free. Plus, I
> > have to mail it back which will cost a few bucks.
>
> > Would you get it repaired for what is about half the price of a new
> > unit, or just buy a new one and this time purchase one of the store's
> > replacement warranties, which in the past I have always thought to be
> > a joke?
>
> > There oughta be a law I tells ya!
>
> There may be.
>
> Consumer protection law can be very State specific. What you want to
> find out is the law regarding "implied use and merchantability" in the
> State you reside in. The basic concept of this type of consumer
> protection is 1.) The item you buy must perform the function it is
> supposed to, based on the manufacturer's claims, and not be
> misrepresented. and 2.) The item is supposed to function for a
> reasonable period of time. It's item #2 you want to check out.
>
> I would call the Attorney General's office in the State you reside in
> and ask for a Consumer Affairs division to find out what your rights are
> regarding this somewhat dubious split warranty. There's little point in
> warranting the parts against a manufacturing defect for a one year
> period if the Consumer is expected to foot the bill to pay to repair
> should the defect show up after 90 days. It's somewhat non-sensical and
> you may have protection in your State law regarding this somewhat bogus
> warranty.
>
> There are a couple of assumptions about the warranty terms I had to make
> based on your statement. Have a copy of the warranty right in front of
> you when you call your AG's office to ask questions. Depending on what
> Consumer protections you have, either the manufacturer or Best Buy could
> be held liable.
>
> Would I pay to repair it? Well if it's already crapped out once in a
> matter of months - hell no. Would I pay for an extended warranty the
> next time? No - I'd look for a product with better initial warranty
> terms to begin with. In my State when requested the warranty terms have
> to be available to the consumer for inspection before you purchase.
>
> But the very first thing I would do is see if you have any legal rights
> to blow the existing warranty right out of the water and get the unit
> replaced or repaired (no one repairs this stuff - it's just exchanged)
> at no charge. That would be the most frugal option.
>
> Rick- Hide quoted text -

Rick, thanks very much for the advice. I have filed a form with my
state's consumer affairs office of the attorney general (phone contact
was useless). I also appreciate the advice from you and others about
reviewing the warranty ahead of time. I will do that from now on. I
do a decent job of researching electronics before I make purchases,
but most of that research doesn't really divulge much about how long a
product typically lasts, it's mostly technical reviews of the quality
of the picture, the controls, etc.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 11:45 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Jeffy3 <jeffy3@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 30, 10:01 pm, Rick <ricka...@rcn.com> wrote:
>> Jeffy3 wrote:
>>
>>> Bought a portable dvd player at Best Buy in April for $130.
>>> Magnavox brand name MPD850 to be specific. Didn't use it a heck of
>>> a lot, only for occasional trips in the car to keep our four
>>> year-old from asking "Are we there yet" a hundred times. Never
>>> dropped it and thought we took good care of it. Last week tried to
>>> power it up in the car and it's dead. Doesn't work with the car
>>> charger, doesn't work with the AC adaptor in the house. Dead as a
>>> doornail. Called Initial today, which is the actual manufacturer
>>> of this unit, and was told after 90 days labor will cost me $49,
>>> even though the parts are free. Plus, I have to mail it back which
>>> will cost a few bucks.
>>
>>> Would you get it repaired for what is about half the price of a new
>>> unit, or just buy a new one and this time purchase one of the
>>> store's replacement warranties, which in the past I have always
>>> thought to be a joke?
>>
>>> There oughta be a law I tells ya!
>>
>> There may be.
>>
>> Consumer protection law can be very State specific. What you want to
>> find out is the law regarding "implied use and merchantability" in
>> the State you reside in. The basic concept of this type of consumer
>> protection is 1.) The item you buy must perform the function it is
>> supposed to, based on the manufacturer's claims, and not be
>> misrepresented. and 2.) The item is supposed to function for a
>> reasonable period of time. It's item #2 you want to check out.
>>
>> I would call the Attorney General's office in the State you reside in
>> and ask for a Consumer Affairs division to find out what your rights
>> are regarding this somewhat dubious split warranty. There's little
>> point in warranting the parts against a manufacturing defect for a
>> one year period if the Consumer is expected to foot the bill to pay
>> to repair should the defect show up after 90 days. It's somewhat
>> non-sensical and you may have protection in your State law regarding
>> this somewhat bogus warranty.
>>
>> There are a couple of assumptions about the warranty terms I had to
>> make based on your statement. Have a copy of the warranty right in
>> front of you when you call your AG's office to ask questions.
>> Depending on what Consumer protections you have, either the
>> manufacturer or Best Buy could be held liable.
>>
>> Would I pay to repair it? Well if it's already crapped out once in a
>> matter of months - hell no. Would I pay for an extended warranty the
>> next time? No - I'd look for a product with better initial warranty
>> terms to begin with. In my State when requested the warranty terms
>> have to be available to the consumer for inspection before you
>> purchase.
>>
>> But the very first thing I would do is see if you have any legal
>> rights to blow the existing warranty right out of the water and get
>> the unit replaced or repaired (no one repairs this stuff - it's just
>> exchanged) at no charge. That would be the most frugal option.
>>
>> Rick- Hide quoted text -
>
> Rick, thanks very much for the advice. I have filed a form with my
> state's consumer affairs office of the attorney general (phone contact
> was useless). I also appreciate the advice from you and others about
> reviewing the warranty ahead of time. I will do that from now on. I
> do a decent job of researching electronics before I make purchases,
> but most of that research doesn't really divulge much about how long a
> product typically lasts,

Yes, because thats much harder to measure, and by the time you have useful
numbers on that, the product is no longer available anyway most of the time.

> it's mostly technical reviews of the quality of the picture, the controls, etc.

Thats all thats really feasible.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 12:41 pm
From: Rick

Jeffy3 wrote:
>
> On Aug 30, 10:01 pm, Rick <ricka...@rcn.com> wrote:
> > Jeffy3 wrote:
> >
> > > Bought a portable dvd player at Best Buy in April for $130. Magnavox
> > > brand name MPD850 to be specific. Didn't use it a heck of a lot, only
> > > for occasional trips in the car to keep our four year-old from asking
> > > "Are we there yet" a hundred times. Never dropped it and thought we
> > > took good care of it. Last week tried to power it up in the car and
> > > it's dead. Doesn't work with the car charger, doesn't work with the
> > > AC adaptor in the house. Dead as a doornail. Called Initial today,
> > > which is the actual manufacturer of this unit, and was told after 90
> > > days labor will cost me $49, even though the parts are free. Plus, I
> > > have to mail it back which will cost a few bucks.
> >
> > > Would you get it repaired for what is about half the price of a new
> > > unit, or just buy a new one and this time purchase one of the store's
> > > replacement warranties, which in the past I have always thought to be
> > > a joke?
> >
> > > There oughta be a law I tells ya!
> >
> > There may be.
> >
> > Consumer protection law can be very State specific. What you want to
> > find out is the law regarding "implied use and merchantability" in the
> > State you reside in. The basic concept of this type of consumer
> > protection is 1.) The item you buy must perform the function it is
> > supposed to, based on the manufacturer's claims, and not be
> > misrepresented. and 2.) The item is supposed to function for a
> > reasonable period of time. It's item #2 you want to check out.
> >
> > I would call the Attorney General's office in the State you reside in
> > and ask for a Consumer Affairs division to find out what your rights are
> > regarding this somewhat dubious split warranty. There's little point in
> > warranting the parts against a manufacturing defect for a one year
> > period if the Consumer is expected to foot the bill to pay to repair
> > should the defect show up after 90 days. It's somewhat non-sensical and
> > you may have protection in your State law regarding this somewhat bogus
> > warranty.
> >
> > There are a couple of assumptions about the warranty terms I had to make
> > based on your statement. Have a copy of the warranty right in front of
> > you when you call your AG's office to ask questions. Depending on what
> > Consumer protections you have, either the manufacturer or Best Buy could
> > be held liable.
> >
> > Would I pay to repair it? Well if it's already crapped out once in a
> > matter of months - hell no. Would I pay for an extended warranty the
> > next time? No - I'd look for a product with better initial warranty
> > terms to begin with. In my State when requested the warranty terms have
> > to be available to the consumer for inspection before you purchase.
> >
> > But the very first thing I would do is see if you have any legal rights
> > to blow the existing warranty right out of the water and get the unit
> > replaced or repaired (no one repairs this stuff - it's just exchanged)
> > at no charge. That would be the most frugal option.
> >
> > Rick- Hide quoted text -
>
> Rick, thanks very much for the advice. I have filed a form with my
> state's consumer affairs office of the attorney general (phone contact
> was useless). I also appreciate the advice from you and others about
> reviewing the warranty ahead of time. I will do that from now on. I
> do a decent job of researching electronics before I make purchases,
> but most of that research doesn't really divulge much about how long a
> product typically lasts, it's mostly technical reviews of the quality
> of the picture, the controls, etc.

Frugal warranty trivia: This may vary from State to State or may be a
chain wide policy. If you by a floor model - the remaining demo unit in
the store - at Radio Shack, Radio Shack will extend the original
warranty an extra year at no charge. I bought a DVD player being closed
out this year under those circumstances that is covered by a two year
warranty. It was a demo - as far as it being on display - but it had
never even been plugged in, let alone operated.

Some times they volunteer this info at Radio Shack - which may be a
consumer protection requirement* - some times you have to ask.
Regardless, make sure the extended warranty coverage has been entered by
the sales rep and shows up on the receipt or else you don't have it.

*Some States do not allow opened returned merchandise or floor models to
be sold as new items or be represented as new. If it's out of the box it
has to be sold at a less-than-retail price. Or in this case, you get
compensated with the extended warranty. This is the way it works in MA -
may be different in other States.

Rick

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 10:04 am
From: Aurum Solis

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 1:27 pm
From: frey@encompasserve.org (Sharon)

In article <6ltjc31e3ron3lhkk2kfahpikpt57fgbd7@4ax.com>, Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com> writes:
> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 14:09:20 -0400, "Chloe" <justsayno@spam.com>
> wrote:
>
>>It'd be interesting to hear other stories about excellent customer service
>>from large national companies. Unfortunately, I don't have any of my own
>>right at the moment.
>

[snip]

> me, no charge. I was pleasantly surprised not only that they had a
> trim part for a 10 year old faucet, but that they would send it to me
> for free.

About 10 years ago I was working computer support for a county agency.
I was tasked with installing a printer and CSU/DSU (a type of modem) at a
remote location. When I plugged the ADTRAN modem into the printer and then
turned it on, it went *POP*. Fried. Called the ADTRAN people and asked for a
replacment, which they sent. It happened again. The third time I finally
realized that it was a bizarre dip-switch setting on the printer that sent
voltage down the *data* cable to the modem - which of course the modem was NOT
expecting. I felt kind of stupid for taking so long to figure it out, but at
the same time I was extremely impressed with the ADTRNAN people. They replaced
three modems that had been fried by user error (ok, stupidity) with
no hassle and no hesitation. That's hands-down my BEST customer service
experience EVER.

These days I travel alot for business and try to stay in Hilton chain
hotels. I've found that although the Hampton Inns are generally good, it can
vary from place to place. I like the complimentary breakfast but am getting
pretty sick of the fake eggs they use. Nasty stuff. Embassy Suites at least
offer real eggs.
I LOVE the new softer bedding they have now. But does anybody besides
me HATE feather pillows?

- Sharon
"Gravity... is a harsh mistress!"

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 1:31 pm
From: "laughs001@gmail.com"

Can't know that it is thick with what the body makes till to now, and
everybody is all well different, come to play and know

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 1:50 pm
From: Al Bundy

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 6:30 pm
From: Jamie

Here is a math trick so unbelievable that it will stump you.

1. Grab a calculator (you won't be able to do this one in your
head).

2. Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the
area code.)

3. Multiply by 80

4. Add 1

5. Multiply by 250

6. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number

7. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number again.

8. Subtract 250

9. Divide number by 2 - Do you recognize the answer

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 6:49 pm
From: Relayer

On Aug 31, 8:30?pm, Jamie <jann...@ihollister.net> wrote:
> Here is a math trick so unbelievable that it will stump you.
>
> 1. Grab a calculator (you won't be able to do this one in your
> head).
>
> 2. Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the
> area code.)
>
> 3. Multiply by 80
>
> 4. Add 1
>
> 5. Multiply by 250
>
> 6. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number
>
> 7. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number again.
>
> 8. Subtract 250
>
> 9. Divide number by 2 - Do you recognize the answer

It works with any set of numbers. 111-1111

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Aug 31 2007 6:56 pm
From: "Don K"

"Jamie" <jannghi@ihollister.net> wrote in message
news:1188610248.860858.273190@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> Here is a math trick so unbelievable that it will stump you.
>
> 1. Grab a calculator (you won't be able to do this one in your
> head).
>
> 2. Key in the first three digits of your phone number (NOT the
> area code.)
>
> 3. Multiply by 80
>
> 4. Add 1
>
> 5. Multiply by 250
>
> 6. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number
>
> 7. Add the last 4 digits of your phone number again.
>
> 8. Subtract 250
>
> 9. Divide number by 2 - Do you recognize the answer

You don't believe the commutative, associative or distributive laws of math?
( ( (nnn * 80) +1 ) 250 + mmmm + mmmm - 250 ) / 2
( nnn * 80 * 250 + 250 + mmmm * 2 - 250 ) /2
( nnn * 80 * 125 + mmmm )
nnn *10000 + mmmm
nnn0000 + mmmm
nnnmmmm

Don

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