Frugal Living: Feb 3, 2009

Tuesday, February 3, 2009

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 15 topics - digest

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TOPIC: Is this guy for real?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8a6553c200de5be6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 1:39 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 3, 12:51 pm, Bowie007 <martin_shag_loa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Our firm received an email this morning in our forum with this site in
> it.
>
>
> Is this possible? After reading it I was shocked to think that anyone
> could make this much money on the internet for doing not much.
>
> Does anyone know anything about this or has anyone actually bought it
> because if it is for real I want some of it?
>
> Please let me know!

You are posting to the wrong group, son. See, everybody here already
is rich. We got in early when the first genius posted about the $6
investment scheme. A few folks thought it was a scam, but when they
saw pictures of the rest of us on our yachts like Tom Vu, they quickly
fell into line and started disrupting every newsgroup they could with
the investment opportunity. Our problems now involve finding tax
shelters and worthy 501c3's to donate to.
Sorry you missed the boat.

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TOPIC: free breakfast at Denny's
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5d558b88e7e81392?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 1:46 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 3, 12:03 pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 8:05 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
> > Woody wrote:
> > >Denny's is offering a free Grand Slam breakfast on Tuesday between 6:00 a.m.
> > >and 2:00 p.m.
>
> > >Only the dish is free; drinks are not included, and sides are 99 cents for
> > >two.
>
> > Even free would not be enough to draw me into a Denny's.
>
> > First requirement is to have something eatable.
>
> > Second is to have a minimum level of service.
>
> It's pretty hard to screw up bacon & eggs with pancakes and sausage.
> Really long lines so I just took a rain check.
>
> When I was a wee wee lad, there was a drug store that had egg, toast,
> & coffee for 29 cents.

When I was a wee lad, a kid could go to the drug store and purchase
bulk chemicals from the pharmacist. With a little knowledge, a kid
could make things go boom. Nobody I knew ever got hurt from it. We
could not afford 29¢ for breakfast.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 2:43 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

albundy2@mailinator.com wrote:
> On Feb 3, 12:03 pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Feb 3, 8:05 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Woody wrote:
>>>> Denny's is offering a free Grand Slam breakfast on Tuesday between
>>>> 6:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m.
>>
>>>> Only the dish is free; drinks are not included, and sides are 99
>>>> cents for two.
>>
>>> Even free would not be enough to draw me into a Denny's.
>>
>>> First requirement is to have something eatable.
>>
>>> Second is to have a minimum level of service.
>>
>> It's pretty hard to screw up bacon & eggs with pancakes and sausage.
>> Really long lines so I just took a rain check.
>>
>> When I was a wee wee lad, there was a drug store that had egg, toast,
>> & coffee for 29 cents.

> When I was a wee lad, a kid could go to the drug store and purchase
> bulk chemicals from the pharmacist. With a little knowledge, a kid
> could make things go boom. Nobody I knew ever got hurt from it.

One fool in my school class blew his hand right off, quite literally.

> We could not afford 29¢ for breakfast.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 3:43 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 3, 5:43 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> albun...@mailinator.com wrote:
> > On Feb 3, 12:03 pm, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Feb 3, 8:05 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Woody wrote:
> >>>> Denny's is offering a free Grand Slam breakfast on Tuesday between
> >>>> 6:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m.
>
> >>>> Only the dish is free; drinks are not included, and sides are 99
> >>>> cents for two.
>
> >>> Even free would not be enough to draw me into a Denny's.
>
> >>> First requirement is to have something eatable.
>
> >>> Second is to have a minimum level of service.
>
> >> It's pretty hard to screw up bacon & eggs with pancakes and sausage.
> >> Really long lines so I just took a rain check.
>
> >> When I was a wee wee lad, there was a drug store that had egg, toast,
> >> & coffee for 29 cents.
> > When I was a wee lad, a kid could go to the drug store and purchase
> > bulk chemicals from the pharmacist. With a little knowledge, a kid
> > could make things go boom. Nobody I knew ever got hurt from it.
>
> One fool in my school class blew his hand right off, quite literally.
>
> > We could not afford 29¢ for breakfast.

My father was an electrical engineer with a chemistry background. He
used to make nitroglycerin and explode it as a kid. I learned some
safety measures, but still was lucky to survive to adulthood in one
piece.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 10:03 pm
From: The Real Bev

James wrote:

> On Feb 3, 8:05 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>> Woody wrote:
>> >Denny's is offering a free Grand Slam breakfast on Tuesday between 6:00 a.m.
>> >and 2:00 p.m.
>>
>> >Only the dish is free; drinks are not included, and sides are 99 cents for
>> >two.
>>
>> Even free would not be enough to draw me into a Denny's.
>>
>> First requirement is to have something eatable.

Tons of salt and cholesterol, what's not to love? It's really hard to ruin
breakfast. I heard about this and then forgot about it until just now. It was
on my way, too...

>> Second is to have a minimum level of service.
>
> It's pretty hard to screw up bacon & eggs with pancakes and sausage.
> Really long lines so I just took a rain check.
>
> When I was a wee wee lad, there was a drug store that had egg, toast,
> & coffee for 29 cents.

When I was in college Bob's had hash browns, one egg and toast for 35 cents.
Coffee was extra.

--
Cheers, Bev
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"It is a matter of regret that many low, mean suspicions
turn out to be well-founded." -- Edgar Watson Howe

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 10:05 pm
From: The Real Bev

Rod Speed wrote:

> albundy2@mailinator.com wrote:
>>
>> When I was a wee lad, a kid could go to the drug store and purchase
>> bulk chemicals from the pharmacist. With a little knowledge, a kid
>> could make things go boom. Nobody I knew ever got hurt from it.

We used to buy chemistry sets at yard sales. My baby son liked to make gunpowder...

> One fool in my school class blew his hand right off, quite literally.

My HS chem lab partner liked to mix random things together. Fortunately all he
created was bad-smelling smoke.

--
Cheers, Bev
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"It is a matter of regret that many low, mean suspicions
turn out to be well-founded." -- Edgar Watson Howe

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TOPIC: find find find
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/89a08f72cf233d56?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 1:50 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

shin.ramyo...@gmail.com wrote:
> HI ALL,
>
> NOW YOU CAN FIND LOVE AND ROMANCE FOR LATIONS WORLDWIDE ....
>
> ITS JOIN FREE. CLICK HERE
>
If you play your cards right, you can be hooking up with the county
sheriff at the local motel in no time.

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TOPIC: Good place to buy wool diaper covers?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/212b318d6a5da024?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 1:56 pm
From: Mary Sunshine

My grandma used to knit woollen soakers. They were a very WW II thing.
All 5 of us had soakers pulled on over our cloth diapers. They are
dead easy to knit.

I used plastic pants pulled on over diaper-service cloth diapers.

I hear that there is now a diaper-free movement (no pun intended.) How
green can you get, eh?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 3:35 pm
From: info_at_1-script_dot_com@foo.com (spendwize.com)

xxxxo
-------------------------------------
OhioGuy wrote:

> My wife told me to bid on Ebay for wool diaper covers for our baby
> that will be arriving in about a month.

> I checked on Ebay, and only seem to find them sold as singles, and
> they seem to be running $15 or more.

> Can anyone suggest a place where you can buy several, and they are
> not treated as "specialty items" - with the associated high
> price?

> I thought we would be able to find them in a multi pack for about $8

> or $9 each, but so far I haven't found any luck.

Perhaps you should think twice about buying wool anything for a baby- with
baby's skin so "new" and sensitive, wool could be irritating if not cause
a down-right allergy.

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== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:15 pm
From: Samatha Hill -- take out TRASH to reply

Mary Sunshine wrote:
> My grandma used to knit woollen soakers. They were a very WW II thing.
> All 5 of us had soakers pulled on over our cloth diapers. They are
> dead easy to knit.

There are still patterns out there for them, too.

I just double-diapered my children (making a half-twist to go between
the legs to reduce horizontal bulk) who had extra-sensitive skin and I
didn't need soakers, but I bought top-quality cloth diapers.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 9:48 pm
From: The Real Bev

clams_casino wrote:

> The Real Bev wrote:
>
>> OhioGuy wrote:
>>
>>> My wife told me to bid on Ebay for wool diaper covers for our baby
>>> that will be arriving in about a month.
>>>
>>> I checked on Ebay, and only seem to find them sold as singles, and
>>> they seem to be running $15 or more.
>>>
>>> Can anyone suggest a place where you can buy several, and they are
>>> not treated as "specialty items" - with the associated high price?
>>>
>>> I thought we would be able to find them in a multi pack for about
>>> $8 or $9 each, but so far I haven't found any luck.
>>
>> Just for curious, why do you want such things? I would have killed
>> for today's disposable diapers 40 years ago!
>
> Hope they are better than they were 30 years ago. Cloth was so much
> easier / faster to change & didn't fail nearly as often.
>
> We'd use them when away from home, but most always used cloth at home.

No pins. They can weigh POUNDS by the time you need to change them. No diaper
rash. I guess they could be improved if somebody figured out how to make them
absorb babyshit, leaving a clean bottom, but that's probably too much to ask.

--
Cheers,
Bev
*******************************************
"I've learned that you can keep puking long
after you think you're finished." -- SL

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TOPIC: Bank Bailout Was a Complete Fraud
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8f3fbc33eb6b035f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 2:29 pm
From: Ron Peterson

On Feb 3, 5:18 am, hp...@lycos.com wrote:

> A Congress is working to give the banks more money. Why not let a
> couple of the big ones, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc. simply die a
> peaceful and natural death?

Is WFC close to bankruptcy? They seem to still be earning money.

--
Ron

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TOPIC: what if you find contaminant on store bought kids fruit snacks?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1b369dfc229b9353?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 4:32 pm
From: OhioGuy

My sister gave us some Kroger Veggietales fruit snacks Sunday. Box
was still sealed, as were all of the pouches. I gave half the box to my
kids over the past couple of days, and then opened another pouch today
and started eating a few. I had to spit them out, because there was
something really awful and gritty on them.

Take a look, here:

http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krogerveggietalesfruitsxj6.jpg

The contaminant is gritty, kind of like charcoal or graphite, and
breaks up if you take a spoon or something and try to crush it.
However, it does not make a mark on a white piece of paper. It was
stuck all over every single piece of the fruit snacks.

This stuff was in there right when the sealed pouch was opened.
Clearly, it is NOT supposed to be in there, nor is it anything you would
think to look for when you are grabbing a few to munch on.

I'm not sure exactly what I should do. I doubt I'm the only one who
has run into this.

On one hand, I don't want other people to be running into this if it
is dangerous or widespread. However, I'm sure the company doesn't want
the expense of a recall or anything like that. If I simply take it to
Kroger, they will probably brush it off and offer me a free package, and
that would be the end of it.

Anyone have any suggestions? I haven't ever run into anything like
this before, so I'm not sure what I should do. I tried calling the
telephone number on the package, but just got put on hold, and
eventually I hung up.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 5:23 pm
From: "Woody"

"OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
news:gmanp5$1pb5$1@news.ett.com.ua...
> My sister gave us some Kroger Veggietales fruit snacks Sunday. Box was
> still sealed, as were all of the pouches. I gave half the box to my kids
> over the past couple of days, and then opened another pouch today and
> started eating a few. I had to spit them out, because there was something
> really awful and gritty on them.
>
> Take a look, here:
>
> http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krogerveggietalesfruitsxj6.jpg
>
> The contaminant is gritty, kind of like charcoal or graphite, and breaks
> up if you take a spoon or something and try to crush it. However, it does
> not make a mark on a white piece of paper. It was stuck all over every
> single piece of the fruit snacks.
>
> This stuff was in there right when the sealed pouch was opened. Clearly,
> it is NOT supposed to be in there, nor is it anything you would think to
> look for when you are grabbing a few to munch on.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what I should do. I doubt I'm the only one who has
> run into this.
>
> On one hand, I don't want other people to be running into this if it is
> dangerous or widespread. However, I'm sure the company doesn't want the
> expense of a recall or anything like that. If I simply take it to Kroger,
> they will probably brush it off and offer me a free package, and that
> would be the end of it.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? I haven't ever run into anything like this
> before, so I'm not sure what I should do. I tried calling the telephone
> number on the package, but just got put on hold, and eventually I hung up.

I would dig up the contact information for the local branch of the food
inspection agency. You could be saving lives.

I'd also take yourself, and your kids, to the doctor to see what it is you
guys have ingested. Have a sample of the stuff on hand for your doctor to
have tested, and another sample for the food inspection folks.

Woody

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:39 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

OhioGuy wrote:
> My sister gave us some Kroger Veggietales fruit snacks Sunday. Box
> was still sealed, as were all of the pouches. I gave half the box to my
> kids over the past couple of days, and then opened another pouch today
> and started eating a few. I had to spit them out, because there was
> something really awful and gritty on them.
>
> Take a look, here:
>
> http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krogerveggietalesfruitsxj6.jpg
>
> The contaminant is gritty, kind of like charcoal or graphite, and
> breaks up if you take a spoon or something and try to crush it.
> However, it does not make a mark on a white piece of paper. It was
> stuck all over every single piece of the fruit snacks.
>
> This stuff was in there right when the sealed pouch was opened.
> Clearly, it is NOT supposed to be in there, nor is it anything you would
> think to look for when you are grabbing a few to munch on.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what I should do. I doubt I'm the only one who
> has run into this.
>
> On one hand, I don't want other people to be running into this if it
> is dangerous or widespread. However, I'm sure the company doesn't want
> the expense of a recall or anything like that. If I simply take it to
> Kroger, they will probably brush it off and offer me a free package, and
> that would be the end of it.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? I haven't ever run into anything like
> this before, so I'm not sure what I should do. I tried calling the
> telephone number on the package, but just got put on hold, and
> eventually I hung up.

I would not panic over it myself. It looks like some burned
crystallized product fell into the mix on the production line. It
would make me mad that they did not respond to your call, but I would
not spend any time or money trying to eek some booty from the company.
That just drives the cost up for everybody.

Also, you may wish to learn how to compress photos. Just because your
camera takes 1.2MB pictures does not mean they will appear any clearer
than a 50kb photo properly saved. Consider using irfanview and or RIOT.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:49 pm
From: metspitzer

On Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:32:49 -0500, OhioGuy <none@none.net> wrote:

> My sister gave us some Kroger Veggietales fruit snacks Sunday. Box
>was still sealed, as were all of the pouches. I gave half the box to my
>kids over the past couple of days, and then opened another pouch today
>and started eating a few. I had to spit them out, because there was
>something really awful and gritty on them.
>
> Take a look, here:
>
>http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krogerveggietalesfruitsxj6.jpg
>
> The contaminant is gritty, kind of like charcoal or graphite, and
>breaks up if you take a spoon or something and try to crush it.
>However, it does not make a mark on a white piece of paper. It was
>stuck all over every single piece of the fruit snacks.
>
> This stuff was in there right when the sealed pouch was opened.
>Clearly, it is NOT supposed to be in there, nor is it anything you would
>think to look for when you are grabbing a few to munch on.
>
> I'm not sure exactly what I should do. I doubt I'm the only one who
>has run into this.
>
> On one hand, I don't want other people to be running into this if it
>is dangerous or widespread. However, I'm sure the company doesn't want
>the expense of a recall or anything like that. If I simply take it to
>Kroger, they will probably brush it off and offer me a free package, and
>that would be the end of it.
>
> Anyone have any suggestions? I haven't ever run into anything like
>this before, so I'm not sure what I should do. I tried calling the
>telephone number on the package, but just got put on hold, and
>eventually I hung up.

Do you have more unopened packs? Hang on to them. Contaminated food
should be dealt with harshly. I would think the company would want to
find out what it was.

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TOPIC: Is AARP dental insurance any good?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3f9f7fb82cfbbd0e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 4:55 pm
From: Kompu Kid

Two friends of mine, a couple in their 70's, don't have any dental
insurance any more.

I found out that Delta Dental offers plans through AARP?

Any experience with their plans?

Thanks!

Deguza

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TOPIC: High-Fructose Corn Syrup High in Mercury
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/222ab29674477495?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 5:53 pm
From: tpgarner@gmail.com

On Jan 29, 12:42 pm, Dave Garland <dave.garl...@wizinfo.com> wrote:
> tmcl...@searchmachine.com wrote:
> > Carbonated beverages are another thing (even sugar-free) human beings
> > don't need.
>
> Ah, but beer is naturally carbonated. Real beer, anyhow. And in the
> old days, was often safer to drink than the water.
>
> Dave

And not to be Debbie Downer, but I just read that many commercial
beers contain HFCS (Miller is one, Budweiser claims it's not)

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TOPIC: Semi-OT: Michael Phelps: "I take it back. I don't apologize."
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/8418534d9d612f4a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 5:57 pm
From: lenona321@yahoo.com

OK, so it's a joke.

But not really.

http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/01/a-letter-id-like-to-see-but-wont/

It's a fictional piece written by Radley Balko. It's very good.

However, one thing not quite mentioned (as Sam Harris did in his book,
"The End of Faith") is how horribly short we are on cash for the
prevention of nuclear terrorism and how this wouldn't be the case if
pot were legal.

Lenona.

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TOPIC: the electronic cigarette: a good buy?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/424be27492308245?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:18 pm
From: ecignews@gmail.com

Some bars have banned it because they look too much like real
cigarette. They worry in a crowded bar, someone will see it being
'vaped' and spark up a real one thinking that is allowed:
http://www.startribune.com/local/38755722.html?elr=KArks:DCiUHc3E7_V_nDaycUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

Others have embraced them and use them as a way to attract back
smokers:
http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/hernebay/Bay-pub-landlord-sells-electronic-cigarettes/article-652872-detail/article.html

Some of the models don't emit any vapour if it's inhaled but to be
honest with any of them if you keep the vapour inhaled long enough,
there will be none on exhale so you can get away with it anywhere if
you're sneaky. Best advice is to ask when you want to use it where you
are not sure about it being permitted. Some of the kits come with
little cards you can hand out. The myth is that there is no smell, but
really there is a faint scent that people can pick up on - it's
stronger with different flavours and I've noticed that if I have my
heating turned on the car, the smell will be stronger.

The other myth is that it the vapour is 'only water vapour'. It's not
- What makes the vapour appear as smoke is propylene glycol - the same
chemical used to make fog in fog machines though the Chinese
manufacturers promise that they only use food grade PG which of course
is hard to verify.

Also the World Health Organisation recently replied to a member of an
e-cig forum that it would be advising member nations that electronic
cigarettes "not be exempted from clean air laws that restriction
restrict cigarette smoke exposure until adequate evidence is provided
to assure the regulatory authority that use of the product will not
expose people to toxic emissions.".

For more links: http://www.e-cignews.com

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TOPIC: CIGARETTES, SAVE MONEY AND SAVE YOURSELF
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/bc3a04fb3f70d426?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:39 pm
From: ecignews@gmail.com

Suppliers are being advised not to make cessation claims unless you
have the clinical studies to back them up lest you ruin it for all
users. Keep e-cigs legal !

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TOPIC: ++ Hilary Clinton Sex Scandal
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e2f5cf388636837f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 6:45 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 3, 2:26 am, systemofadownsyndr...@gmail.com wrote:
> The video that rocked the
> oval oralfis , Hilary Clinton Sex tape naked with The hockey legend
> Wade Greatski..

Yea, must be the great Wade Greatski taking it to the hole once again.
He's trying to break Wilbur Chamberlain's record.
If it were real, I'd pay dearly not to see it.

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TOPIC: Just heard of a free phone service...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1306f55d0bdb5a42?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:18 pm
From: Kompu Kid

Hello All:

I our local discussion group in Silicon Valley ( http://www.yahoogroups.com/groups/scc_cafe/
), somebody is talking about a free international call service. I
guess there is a limit of 10 minutes/day, and you have to watch an add
first.

Here is what the guy gave as the URL.

http://www.tuitalk.com

Deguza

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TOPIC: McDonald's Angus third pounder burger
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ac70700edf556a52?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 8:31 pm
From: "www.Queensbridge.us"

I have enjoyed
McDonald's Angus third pounder burger
in Manhattan and Brooklyn for $3.99

Yesterday I was in Astoria part of Queens, NYC and they were $4.59!!

Has McDonald's raised the prices of Angus burgers.

How much are they where you are?

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TOPIC: Wall St. Journal: On saving on phone service and cable
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 8:36 pm
From: "www.Queensbridge.us"

On Feb 3, 11:46 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310097165622001.html
>
> > Granted, this article isn't exactly aimed at people who are truly
> > struggling, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
>
> > Lenona.
>
> Meanwhile the wireless carriers keep trying to stop people from pay as
> you go data. Verizon no longer offers it on new smart phones, though on
> one two year old model you can still pay by the MB.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 2 2009 11:31 pm
From: "Woody"

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Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 3:18 am
From: hpope@lycos.com

On Feb 2, 7:36 pm, lorad <lorad...@cs.com> wrote:
> For educational purposes:
>
> "Bailouts A Complete Fraud
> Against US Workers
> By Frosty Wooldridge
> 2-2-9
>
> A recent Associated Press news release exposed U.S. banks accepting
> billions in bailout money along with major corporations. Banks defraud
> American taxpayers by hiring thousands of foreign workers in place of
> our citizens.
>
> The report said, "The figures are significant because they show that
> the bailed-out banks, being kept afloat with U.S. taxpayer money,
> actively sought to hire foreign workers instead of American workers.
> As the economic collapse worsened last year with huge numbers of bank
> employees laid off-the numbers of visas sought by the dozen banks in
> AP's analysis increased by nearly one-third, from 3,258 in fiscal 2007
> to 4,163 in fiscal 2008. The AP reviewed visa applications the banks
> filed with the Labor Department under the H-1B visa program, which
> allows temporary employment of foreign workers in specialized-skill
> and advanced-degree positions. Over 100,000 U.S. citizens suffered
> layoffs from the banks that enjoyed $150 billion during 2008."
>
> Put that in your pipe and smoke it!
>
> With full complicity of our U.S. Congress and former President Bush,
> "The dozen banks receiving the biggest rescue packages, totaling more
> than $150 billion, requested visas for more than 21,800 foreign
> workers over the past six years for positions that included senior
> vice presidents, corporate lawyers, junior investment analysts and
> human resources specialists. The average annual salary for those jobs
> was $90,721.00, nearly twice the median income for all American
> households."
>
> Thomas Jefferson said, "I believe that banking institutions are more
> dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American
> people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their
> currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and
> corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the
> people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the
> continent their fathers conquered."
>
> In the past decade, IT workers suffered displacements from their jobs
> because billionaire Bill Gates wielded obscene amounts of financial
> power to push H-1B visa entries to over 1.0 million foreign workers.
> That's how many U.S. IT workers watched their jobs vanish in the past
> 10 years. Additionally, those foreign IT workers send their money home
> to their countries. Instead of our money circulating throughout the
> U.S. financial system, it bleeds out of our country.
>
> Overall, cash transfers exceed $80 billion annually to foreign
> countries. To give you an idea of how much money we lose, Mexico's
> reception of U.S. dollars runs $24 billion every year for over 10
> years. Other than oil income, Mexico's second biggest income flows
> from the cash transfer pipeline.
>
> The Bear-Stearns Report showed that the Mexican and immigrant impact
> in America makes those workers the second largest underground economy
> in the world. They bleed the U.S. treasury, and presently, we suffer a
> $10.3 trillion deficit.
>
> "It is unclear how many foreign workers the banks actually hired; the
> government does not release those details," the AP reported. "The
> actual number is likely a fraction of the 21,800 foreign workers the
> banks sought to hire because the government limits the number of visas
> it grants to 85,000 each year among all U.S. employers. During the
> last three months of 2008, the largest banks that received taxpayer
> loans announced more than 100,000 layoffs. The number of foreign
> workers included among those laid off is unknown. Foreigners are
> attractive hires because companies have found ways to pay them less
> than American workers."
>
> By digging further, financial institutions like Fannie Mae and Freddie
> Mac received $85 billion in bailout money, but gave away billions in
> fraudulent loans to illegal aliens and poor people unable to bring a
> dime to the home-ownership signing table.
>
> In other words, we endure gross if not obscene corruption at the
> highest levels in Congress! Yet, we re-elected those scoundrels such
> as Senator Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi for starters!
>
> When you look at the thousands of employers who hire illegal criminal
> aliens, you see a pattern of corruption that defies imagination. Not
> only do the employers undercut and displace American workers, they
> fail to pay taxes on an estimated 50 percent of the money because they
> pay under the table.
>
> Every illegal alien employer undermines the U.S. Constitution which
> provides him/her with a free society, a magnificent life as well as
> freedom from terror. But when they commit their corruption, they
> undermine the standard of living and quality of life for our citizens.
> Every CEO, company president or construction company that hires
> illegal aliens in place of Americans-or, average citizens that hire
> illegal criminal aliens-you fuel massive corruption.
>
> For guys like Bill Gates, you cheat your fellow Americans. For the
> head of McDonald's, Wendy's and other fast food giants, your hiring
> illegal aliens steals jobs from our working poor. You CEO's at Tyson,
> Hormel, Swift, and Amour make me sick with your corruption. You head-
> honchos at Target, Wal-Mart, Lowe's and Home Depot create 15 million
> unemployed American workers by selling $700 billion a year in products
> made from India, China, Mexico-seldom do we see anything "Made in
> America" today.
>
> And you, U.S. House reps and Senators, you make me sick most of all
> because you instigate such monumental fraud against U.S. workers.
>
> As a final note, let it be known that corruption becomes a 'mechanism'
> or paradigm that operates in third world countries stemming from a
> well-entrenched power elite. Once in power, they crush the middle and
> lower classes into perpetual poverty.
>
> While we immigrate 2.4 million third world migrants into our country
> annually to take our citizens' jobs and we create more unemployed by
> allowing 20 to 30 million illegal criminal aliens-our middle class
> falters into a new poverty.
>
> Today, we face devolution of America's middle class at the hands of
> our own leaders, corporations and new ruling elite.
>
> "You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy
> out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another
> person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to
> anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody
> else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to
> work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when
> the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because
> somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend,
> is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing
> it." Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931 - 2005
>
> ##
>
> To take action: First and foremost, joinwww.numbersusa.comand become
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>
> ..........
> The Only way to save the US, is to withdraw from the WTO

A Congress is working to give the banks more money. Why not let a
couple
of the big ones, Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc. simply die a
peaceful
and natural death?

mitch

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 12:18 pm
From: CooCheeCooChee

Two things we must keep in mind:

1) The initial TARP money was to save or stabilize as many banks and
affected businesses as possible. Period. Main Street was not
invited.

2) Neither Congress or the Bush administration planned, insisted
upon, or approved transparent bailouts.

$350 billion unaccounted for dollars LATER, we'll see that this was
the first BIG SCANDAL of the Great Bush Depression.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 5:02 am
From: clams_casino

The Real Bev wrote:

> OhioGuy wrote:
>
>> My wife told me to bid on Ebay for wool diaper covers for our baby
>> that will be arriving in about a month.
>>
>> I checked on Ebay, and only seem to find them sold as singles, and
>> they seem to be running $15 or more.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest a place where you can buy several, and they are
>> not treated as "specialty items" - with the associated high price?
>>
>> I thought we would be able to find them in a multi pack for about
>> $8 or $9 each, but so far I haven't found any luck.
>
>
> Just for curious, why do you want such things? I would have killed
> for today's disposable diapers 40 years ago!
>

Hope they are better than they were 30 years ago. Cloth was so much
easier / faster to change & didn't fail nearly as often.

We'd use them when away from home, but most always used cloth at home.

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 5:05 am
From: clams_casino

Woody wrote:

>Denny's is offering a free Grand Slam breakfast on Tuesday between 6:00 a.m.
>and 2:00 p.m.
>
>Only the dish is free; drinks are not included, and sides are 99 cents for
>two.
>
>
>

Even free would not be enough to draw me into a Denny's.

First requirement is to have something eatable.

Second is to have a minimum level of service.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 9:03 am
From: James

On Feb 3, 8:05 am, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> Woody wrote:
> >Denny's is offering a free Grand Slam breakfast on Tuesday between 6:00 a.m.
> >and 2:00 p.m.
>
> >Only the dish is free; drinks are not included, and sides are 99 cents for
> >two.
>
> Even free would not be enough to draw me into a Denny's.
>
> First requirement is to have something eatable.
>
> Second is to have a minimum level of service.

It's pretty hard to screw up bacon & eggs with pancakes and sausage.
Really long lines so I just took a rain check.

When I was a wee wee lad, there was a drug store that had egg, toast,
& coffee for 29 cents.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 9:57 am
From: SMS

clams_casino wrote:
> Woody wrote:
>
>> Denny's is offering a free Grand Slam breakfast on Tuesday between
>> 6:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m.
>>
>> Only the dish is free; drinks are not included, and sides are 99 cents
>> for two.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Even free would not be enough to draw me into a Denny's.
>
> First requirement is to have something eatable.
>
> Second is to have a minimum level of service.

I hadn't been to a Denny's in years or maybe a decade, then last July we
arrived into our hotel in Salt Lake City pretty late, after flying from
SFO. There was a Denny's next to the hotel, so 12 of us trooped over
there. It was surprisingly good, much better than I remembered. Real
milk shakes, good onion rings, and the sandwiches and stuff were okay.
You have to remember to never order anything that is in a plastic pouch
that they just reheat in a microwave. Order things that have to be
grilled or fried. A lot of these types of restaurants offer entrees that
are really horrible. The first and last time I ever went to Applebee's
(on a road trip) the waitress even mentioned that you couldn't have
ingredients left out of many of the entrees because they all come
pre-made and pre-packaged.

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:22 am
From: "www.Queensbridge.us"

On Feb 2, 6:02 pm, lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310097165622001.html
>
> Granted, this article isn't exactly aimed at people who are truly
> struggling, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
>
> Lenona.

We stopped paying for cable TV last September when we got the
Digital Stream DTV box from Radio Shack with the $40.00 government
coupon.

We pay five dollars a month for cell phone

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 8:46 am
From: SMS

lenona321@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310097165622001.html
>
> Granted, this article isn't exactly aimed at people who are truly
> struggling, but I thought I'd post it anyway.
>
> Lenona.

Meanwhile the wireless carriers keep trying to stop people from pay as
you go data. Verizon no longer offers it on new smart phones, though on
one two year old model you can still pay by the MB.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 7:38 am
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 2, 10:46 pm, NoSpamFo...@LousyISP.gov wrote:
> albun...@mailinator.com wrote:
> >On Feb 2, 3:16 pm, "Woody" <em...@munged.com> wrote:
> >> This is obviously addressed to smokers. Anti-smoking Nazis wishing to preach
> >> on the evils of smoking are free to reply in another thread, preferably with
> >> the header "I'm an anti-smoking Nazi."
>
> >> I'm wondering if electronic cigarettes are a good buy. Up here cigarettes
> >> are quite expensive, plus you can't smoke indoors almost anywhere. If you
> >> use an electronic cigarette, has there been a problem with you smoking it
> >> on, for example, a long bus ride?
> >It seems like a good idea for everyone, no second hand smoke and
> >convenient for the smoker.
>
> My last (real) cigarette was in August 08. I hated the "holier than
> thou" preachings of the anti-smoking nazis and even though covered at
> 100% I refused the goody-two-shoes "help you stop smoking" products on
> the market including the big guns from Pfizer (which seems to have
> some side effects problems) and bupropion and the extortionately
> expensive OTC products. All of them expect you to be a good boy and
> stop this horrible habit. Well, f... them! I like smoking or at least
> the effects of nicotine. Then, purely by chance, I was checking Google
> for a nicotine inhalant... maybe someone made such a thing... and I
> came across the e-cigs. Wow! All the good and none of the bad.
>
> Does it work? Work in the sense of giving me the high/low relief from
> stress that I seek. Yes! Absolutely! Some people claim the taste is
> not the same but that doesn't worry me and in any event there are
> dozens of different flavors and at least five levels of nicotine. You
> have to experiment to find what is best for you.
>
> Further you don't really inhale an e-cig like you do cigarettes. With
> a cigarette you smoke for 7 to 10 min and then not again for an hour
> or so (5 minutes if really stressed out <g>). With the e-cig you take
> two or three puffs and then put it down. 10 minutes (or an hour)
> later, another two or three puffs; Or, you can OD by just puffing away
> continuously. The latter, if indulged at a high nicotine level, can
> make you nauseous and even at lower levels can cause diarrhea. The
> only serious bad health consequence is a rise of around 6mm of mercury
> in BP but this is trivial.
>
> What they don't want you to know is that there are a series of health
> plusses for nicotine including the prevention of Parkinsonism and
> raising the pain threshold. Look around for a medical book in the
> endocrinology series called "Nicotinic Receptors" which explains (if
> you have a degree in biology) what nicotine does in the body and why
> it's beneficial. Nicotine is not the problem with smoking--the other
> constituents of the smoke are.
>
> >This is a new concept in smoking. It looks just like a cigarette. I
> >wonder if some facilities would prevent using it out of ignorance of
> >the fact that there is no smoke.
>
> So far I haven't had a problem either on public transport, in a
> supermarket, or a restaurant but I can well see the control freaks
> freaking out. No one to control anymore. I even took a puff in the
> PCP's examining room right in front of him. His eyes popped but then
> when I explained he was most impressed and wrote down all the details.
> He understood the anti-control freak advantages.
>
> > Also, would there be liability on the
> >e-smoker's behalf if an observer gave himself a hernia laughing when
> >they discovered an adult using such a product. Will school children be
> >allowed to use e-cigarettes?
>
> They say they're not for sale to children but I don't see how this can
> be legally enforced. Again the control freaks are probably working on
> the issue now.
>
> >I look forward to some genuine responses to these issues.
>
> Personally I would prefer something that looks more like an asthma
> inhaler. That way you would confuse the hell out of the anti-smoking
> people. If you get one look around and buy the one with the blue
> light. Also prices vary widely for essentially the same thing.

Very complete and informative post nospam.
This produce needs more exposure.
In my state, they would soon find a way to overtax it.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 8:42 am
From: "Ol' Grand Bag"

"Carlyle-Owned Auto Parts Maker Enters Bankruptcy"

By Thomas Heath
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, February 3, 2009; D03

A German auto parts manufacturer owned by Carlyle Group declared
bankruptcy yesterday, causing the District-based private-equity giant
to lose its $180 million investment, a Carlyle spokesman said
yesterday.

The insolvency of Edscha, which manufactures door hinges, convertible
roofs and driver controls for major carmakers, follows a 50 percent
drop in some of the company's businesses during the fourth quarter of
2008.

"Edscha succumbed to the double-barreled effect of an ailing worldwide
economy and a suffering automobile industry," Carlyle spokesman Chris
Ullman said.

Carlyle bought Edscha in January 2003 and grew sales from $1 billion
in 2005 to almost $1.4 billion in the fiscal year that ended June
2008.

With a collapse in the worldwide automobile market last year, business
at Edscha plummeted. Carlyle injected $25 million in December to help
see Edscha through the economic downturn, the company said.

Edscha, which was established in 1870, employs about 6,000 people at
29 factories worldwide. The company made parts for several BMW models
and Rolls-Royce Phantom Drophead Coupé models, according to Automotive
News.

Carlyle has suffered in the current economic malaise along with
everyone else.

The company announced in December that it would lay off about 100
members of its 1,000-employee staff, which stretches across 33 offices
in 21 countries.

In November, Carlyle closed its Warsaw office and ended financial
operations in some Eastern European and Asian markets, which resulted
in 18 layoffs.

In December, one of its investments, Hawaiian Telcom Communications,
filed for bankruptcy protection.

Last March, Carlyle wrote off a $700 million investment in its Carlyle
Capital affiliate.

Despite the slowdown, Carlyle has pulled off a few deals this year. It
bought the government operations unit of Booz Allen Hamilton for $2.54
billion last summer and recently sold automotive company AxleTech
International to General Dynamics for what Carlyle called "an
excellent gain."

Edscha is part of a fund called Carlyle Europe Partners I that to date
has returned twice its initial investment, Ullman said.

Overall, Ullman said, "our global portfolio of 200 companies is doing
well, and we have $40 billion in capital to invest."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/02/AR2009020203027.html

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 9:28 am
From: James

On Feb 2, 8:07 pm, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
> On Feb 2, 5:35 pm, obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > 2.5 million Americans lost jobs - ObaMa0 hires 1.5 million foreigners
>
> >http://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/video/commercials/elevato...
>
> Ain't it wonderful?
>
> mitch

Yup! If Bush was in office he would have filled those jobs with red
blooded Americans who are only qualified to clean toilets. So, which
is better?

Bush's idea of full employment is give them jobs as military dead
bodys in foreign lands.

== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 9:51 am
From: Bowie007

Our firm received an email this morning in our forum with this site in
it.

http://www.maverickmoneymakerscom.com/dir.html

Is this possible? After reading it I was shocked to think that anyone
could make this much money on the internet for doing not much.

Does anyone know anything about this or has anyone actually bought it
because if it is for real I want some of it?

Please let me know!

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 10:12 am
From: "ChairMan"

In news:bc90bab9-f63f-49ca-bf2d-d4d5fc0adf8c@k36g2000pri.googlegroups.com,
Bowie007 <martin_shag_loader@hotmail.com>spewed forth:
> Our firm received an email this morning in our forum with this site in
> it.
>
> Is this possible? After reading it I was shocked to think that anyone
> could make this much money on the internet for doing not much.
>
> Does anyone know anything about this or has anyone actually bought it
> because if it is for real I want some of it?
>
> Please let me know!

NO.....it's not real, it's a fig newton of your imagination.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 11:08 am
From: SMS

Bowie007 wrote:
> Our firm received an email this morning in our forum with this site in
> it.
>
> http://www.maverickmoneymakerscom.com/dir.html
>
> Is this possible? After reading it I was shocked to think that anyone
> could make this much money on the internet for doing not much.
>
> Does anyone know anything about this or has anyone actually bought it
> because if it is for real I want some of it?
>
> Please let me know!

It's a scam.

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 12:08 pm
From: Gene Seibel

On Feb 3, 11:51 am, Bowie007 <martin_shag_loa...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Our firm received an email this morning in our forum with this site in
> it.
>
> http://www.maverickmoneymakerscom.com/dir.html
>
> Is this possible? After reading it I was shocked to think that anyone
> could make this much money on the internet for doing not much.
>
> Does anyone know anything about this or has anyone actually bought it
> because if it is for real I want some of it?
>
> Please let me know!

Of course it's possible. Just have 2000 idiots pay you $97 per month.
It won't work for you, but you can help it work for him.
--
Gene Seibel
Gene & Sue's Aeroplanes - http://pad39a.com/gene/planes.html
Because we fly, we envy no one.

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 1:39 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 31 2009 10:55 am
From: josejarvie@ssnet.net

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:43:35 -0800, in misc.consumers.frugal-living The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

>> She could buy an insulated thermal mug with the Starbucks logo, and maintain
>> the pretense.

Dammit my thermos is hot on the outside. It must have lost it's vacuum.. I guess I'll be having cold lunch
today..:( Only used the damn thermos a few times last year then stored it under the sink. Cheesy damn
thing.

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== 1 of 2 ==
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 3 2009 1:30 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 3, 3:15 pm, Elnica <usan...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> shape the world, create real incomes and share in the profits. It's a
> new place where you meet new people or invite your friends. Learn new
> skills or expand your business. Find the love of your life or help the
> planet.
>
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>
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