Frugal Living: Jul 19, 2008

Saturday, July 19, 2008

25 new messages in 4 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Windex kills ants but leaves my walls blue (better idea?) - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4f5c4a78f889237b?hl=en
* Frugal ways - 13 messages, 7 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8e3584c16c404f4e?hl=en
* angle grinder to cut and clean tiles - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/69e6b0a6814ddd33?hl=en
* What does it cost to feed yourself these days? - 8 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/5e35fa8087ca6eb4?hl=en

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TOPIC: Windex kills ants but leaves my walls blue (better idea?)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/4f5c4a78f889237b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 4:35 pm
From: 01dyna <01dyna@noplace.com>

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:01:37 -0400, Mike Copeland
<mcopelandAT@pobox.comcom> you wrote:

> > However, the Argentine ants here in California are omnivorous -
>they'll eat
>> just about anything. And, as I said, they're tough to kill 'cuz they have
>> multiple queens and they can go to any nest, unlike other ants.
>
>Multiple queens......only in california!!
>
>Sorry couldn't resist :)

ROFLAO!

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TOPIC: Frugal ways
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/8e3584c16c404f4e?hl=en
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== 1 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 4:44 pm
From: California Poppy

I save by eating at the Senior Center for lunch every day. It costs
$5, but I have a container and always put one-half if it away
immediately, so then I eat the rest in the evening. There are a few
things I will pay a little more for...my Yuban coffee, for instance.
Otherwise, I use store brands. Otherwise, I drive very little...only
to the senior center and to Kaiser. They are building a new Kaiser
clinic near me and I will go there after the end of the year. I buy
no new clothes and will just wear what I have until it is gone, or I
am.

== 2 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 5:04 pm
From: The Real Bev

Nixon.D wrote:

> Heh, heh, heh,,,,,
>
> Your post reminds of my good fortune in not having to worry any longer about
> toilet paper.
>
> With my intractible back pain I can no longer use it.
>
> There's some kind of good to be found in almost every situation.

OK, curiosity wins. Have you invented some kind of tool? Do you have a
friend who will, um, solve the problem for you? Do you just let the
deposits build up? Something else?

--
Cheers,
Bev
0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0o0
Judges are our only protection against a legal system that can
afford lots more prosecution than we can afford defense.

== 3 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 5:07 pm
From: "Lou"

"Gina" <me@privacy.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:4881c722$0$33686$892e0abb@auth.newsreader.octanews.com...
> Curious how others make ends meet?
>
> I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
> tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
> napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
>
Use less toothpaste? If that means you don't always brush after eating, it
could be penny wise, pound foolish. If it means a little less on the brush
each time you use it, I doubt if you'd notice the difference in cost in a
year.

Is butter in tubs cheaper than butter in sticks? Those tubs don't seal real
well - I'd rather use containers with tight lids. Once you buy them, they
last for years.

TV dinner containers - tv dinners don't seem like a bargin to me.

This is all nit-picky though - chasing after fractions of a cent. The big
expenditures are likely to be things like food, utilities, transportation,
and possibly clothing.

== 4 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 5:09 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Nixon.D <nixon.d@comcast.net> wrote

> My Dear Andy;

> Your abysmally naive response to my post cannot be ignored !!

> The Scotch drink you refer to is NOT "whiskey" it is whisky. ONLY Scotland is allowed by international law to call
> their spirits WHISKY.

Wrong, no such 'international law'

> "Whiskey" is probably something they bastardized in Texas as they gradually lost the civilizing protocols and living
> standards of Scotland.

> Scotch; (noun); The people of Scotland (American Heritage
> Dictionary). One of which you more than likely are. And, as I am
> myself which I am most proud to proclaim.
>
> My Scottish ancestors made their way, by unknown means, to the place
> now known as Horse Cave, Kentucky sometime back in the 1700's. They kept very few records there in those olden days
> but they were a
> hearty/hardy/thrifty and independent folk that did not tolerate any
> anti-American horse shit ! They were never slave-holders so we have
> never felt any "guilt" about that mess of crap nor have we ever been
> inclined to fork over any reparations" - - - and frugality demands that we NEVER do that ! ...... <chuckle
> thrice>
>
> But, I think you really should go check out that "Daddy Danny Sharpe"
> again.
> McDaveOfMerryland
> ==============================================================================
>
>
> .
> ..... .
>
>
> "AndyS" <andysharpe@juno.com> wrote in message
> news:d705c08f-f2b3-46dd-8b0c-d8b3a45624a8@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> Nixon.D wrote:
>>> Being of Scotch descent I'm just naturally in favor of all variety
>>> of frugalities !!!
>>>
>>
>> Andy comments:
>>
>> Your ancestor was a bottle of whiskey ???
>>
>> I think you mean " of SCOTTISH descent ".......
>>
>> ..... a true Scotsman wouldn't make that mistake :>)))
>>
>> Andy in Eureka, whose paternal has it's genealogy
>> traced back to Daniel Charles Sharpe, a Scottish
>> immigrant who came to the new world in 1720, and was
>> later a hero in the Revolutionary War ( on the American side )...
>>
>>
>> :>)))))))))))))))))))

== 5 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 5:39 pm
From: thuss@anhywhere.usa

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:53:48 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

>Gina wrote:
>
>> Curious how others make ends meet?
>>
>> I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
>> tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
>> napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
>
>Use rags? If you have anything left big enough to clean with when your
>clothes are worn out you're not wearing them long enough!
>
>Cloth napkins? NAPKINS? LOOOOOOXURY! When I was a kid we didn't have
>napkins, we didn't even have FOOD! If we wanted to eat we hung out at
>the laundromat and dipped soup out of the washers when nobody was looking.
No food? Sheee-yet, gal. When I was a kid, we was so po' that when
the neighbors were eatin' beans, we stood ourselves outsdie they
windows and smelled their farts for supper.

== 6 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:04 pm
From: "Nixon.D"

"California Poppy" <GoldenStatePoppy@aol.com> wrote in message
news:45ab8927-d8e9-4e69-98b3-8cfb7568dc5a@j33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 19, 3:48?pm, "Nixon.D" <nixo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Heh, heh, heh,,,,,
>
> Your post reminds of my good fortune in not having to worry any longer
> about
> toilet paper.
>
> With my intractible back pain I can no longer use it.
>
> There's some kind of good to be found in almost every situation.
>
> McDaveOfMerryland
> ==============================================================
>
> "Joan F (MI)" <jjf...@removethisameritech.net> wrote in
> messagenews:2P-dndWjCqvUtR_VnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
>
> >I have a lovely matched set of plastic containers of various sizes that
> >came
> > with food in them. ?I brush my teeth with water, hate toothpaste. ?I do
> > use
> > a Kleenex when I need a napkin, can't stand cloth napkins. ?Only use
> > paper
> > towels to dry food I have washed, not for cleaning tasks. ?I buy toilet
> > paper made from recycled paper, used to buy Green Forest but Kroger (who
> > was
> > the only one that carried it) discontinued it and replaced it with
> > Sunrise
> > which I think I like a bit better. ?Most of this is motivated less by
> > saving
> > money than the fact that I hate waste.
>
> > We recycle our newspapers and a few other things, don't have curbside
> > recycling so we have to take it to the recycling center.
>
> > Gina wrote:
> > | Curious how others make ends meet?
> > |
> > | I reuse all I can. ?Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
> > | tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
> > | napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). ?Use rags.
> > |
> > |
> > | I recycle for the environment.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Do you mean that you no longer deficate? Or is it that you use
something other than TP?
====================================================

I just do just like all the other primates do------- stand naked out in the
rain when the opportunity arises. Same way they do in Texas.

McDaveOfMerryland
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== 7 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 5:54 pm
From: "Nixon.D"

"California Poppy" <GoldenStatePoppy@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1bad5305-9c98-44c1-a67a-d51cc6c72b66@y22g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
>I save by eating at the Senior Center for lunch every day. It costs
> $5, but I have a container and always put one-half if it away
> immediately, so then I eat the rest in the evening. There are a few
> things I will pay a little more for...my Yuban coffee, for instance.
> Otherwise, I use store brands. Otherwise, I drive very little...only
> to the senior center and to Kaiser. They are building a new Kaiser
> clinic near me and I will go there after the end of the year. I buy
> no new clothes and will just wear what I have until it is gone, or I
> am.
==================================================

You're probably drinking too much of that Yuban coffee. That's the reason
you're so excited and aroused all the time.

$5 is a bit steep for a Senior Center lunch. Around here it is $1.50 (or
free if you tell 'em you don't want to pay or cannot afford to pay).

I eat there occasionally just to be friendly with my peers but most of the
time I skip lunch; I find that if I don't eat lunch I can eat all I want of
anything I want for dinner and still never have to worry about putting on
unnecessary weight.

What is a "Kaiser Clinic" ? Whatever it is you're probably going to
have to wear your clothes.

McDaveOfMerryland
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== 8 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 5:43 pm
From: "Nixon.D"

OK, OK, OK, OK, already !!!

International "Agreement" ----- Please don't bug me with trivials... !

McDaveOfMerryland
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:6efe1aF6iv1jU1@mid.individual.net...
> Nixon.D <nixon.d@comcast.net> wrote
>
>> My Dear Andy;
>
>> Your abysmally naive response to my post cannot be ignored !!
>
>> The Scotch drink you refer to is NOT "whiskey" it is whisky. ONLY
>> Scotland is allowed by international law to call their spirits WHISKY.
>
> Wrong, no such 'international law'
>
>> "Whiskey" is probably something they bastardized in Texas as they
>> gradually lost the civilizing protocols and living standards of Scotland.
>
>> Scotch; (noun); The people of Scotland (American Heritage
>> Dictionary). One of which you more than likely are. And, as I am
>> myself which I am most proud to proclaim.
>>
>> My Scottish ancestors made their way, by unknown means, to the place
>> now known as Horse Cave, Kentucky sometime back in the 1700's. They
>> kept very few records there in those olden days but they were a
>> hearty/hardy/thrifty and independent folk that did not tolerate any
>> anti-American horse shit ! They were never slave-holders so we have
>> never felt any "guilt" about that mess of crap nor have we ever been
>> inclined to fork over any reparations" - - - and frugality demands that
>> we NEVER do that ! ...... <chuckle thrice>
>>
>> But, I think you really should go check out that "Daddy Danny Sharpe"
>> again.
>> McDaveOfMerryland
>> ==============================================================================
>>
>>
>> .
>> ..... .
>>
>>
>> "AndyS" <andysharpe@juno.com> wrote in message
>> news:d705c08f-f2b3-46dd-8b0c-d8b3a45624a8@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Nixon.D wrote:
>>>> Being of Scotch descent I'm just naturally in favor of all variety
>>>> of frugalities !!!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Andy comments:
>>>
>>> Your ancestor was a bottle of whiskey ???
>>>
>>> I think you mean " of SCOTTISH descent ".......
>>>
>>> ..... a true Scotsman wouldn't make that mistake :>)))
>>>
>>> Andy in Eureka, whose paternal has it's genealogy
>>> traced back to Daniel Charles Sharpe, a Scottish
>>> immigrant who came to the new world in 1720, and was
>>> later a hero in the Revolutionary War ( on the American side )...
>>>
>>>
>>> :>)))))))))))))))))))
>
>

== 9 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:08 pm
From: "Nixon.D"

"The Real Bev" <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Civgk.3562$W64.2769@newsfe09.iad...
> Nixon.D wrote:
>
>> Heh, heh, heh,,,,,
>>
>> Your post reminds of my good fortune in not having to worry any longer
>> about toilet paper.
>>
>> With my intractible back pain I can no longer use it.
>>
>> There's some kind of good to be found in almost every situation.
>
> OK, curiosity wins. Have you invented some kind of tool? Do you have a
> friend who will, um, solve the problem for you? Do you just let the
> deposits build up? Something else?

=====================================================

It's best to do as the Texans do. Pay attention to the weather forecasts
and arrange to stand out in the rain whenever possible. That's the way the
Cowboys did it back in the days of yesteryear.

McDaveOfMerryland
===============================================
>

== 10 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:16 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Nixon.D <nixon.d@comcast.net> wrote:

> OK, OK, OK, OK, already !!!

> International "Agreement"

Still a lie. No such animal does anything of the sort.

> Please don't bug me with trivials... !

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Nixon.D <nixon.d@comcast.net> wrote
>>
>>> My Dear Andy;
>>
>>> Your abysmally naive response to my post cannot be ignored !!
>>
>>> The Scotch drink you refer to is NOT "whiskey" it is whisky. ONLY
>>> Scotland is allowed by international law to call their spirits
>>> WHISKY.
>>
>> Wrong, no such 'international law'
>>
>>> "Whiskey" is probably something they bastardized in Texas as they
>>> gradually lost the civilizing protocols and living standards of
>>> Scotland.
>>
>>> Scotch; (noun); The people of Scotland (American Heritage
>>> Dictionary). One of which you more than likely are. And, as I am
>>> myself which I am most proud to proclaim.
>>>
>>> My Scottish ancestors made their way, by unknown means, to the place
>>> now known as Horse Cave, Kentucky sometime back in the 1700's. They kept very few records there in those olden days
>>> but they were a
>>> hearty/hardy/thrifty and independent folk that did not tolerate any
>>> anti-American horse shit ! They were never slave-holders so we have
>>> never felt any "guilt" about that mess of crap nor have we ever been
>>> inclined to fork over any reparations" - - - and frugality
>>> demands that we NEVER do that ! ...... <chuckle thrice>
>>>
>>> But, I think you really should go check out that "Daddy Danny
>>> Sharpe" again.
>>> McDaveOfMerryland
>>> ==============================================================================
>>>
>>>
>>> .
>>> ..... .
>>>
>>>
>>> "AndyS" <andysharpe@juno.com> wrote in message
>>> news:d705c08f-f2b3-46dd-8b0c-d8b3a45624a8@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nixon.D wrote:
>>>>> Being of Scotch descent I'm just naturally in favor of all variety
>>>>> of frugalities !!!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andy comments:
>>>>
>>>> Your ancestor was a bottle of whiskey ???
>>>>
>>>> I think you mean " of SCOTTISH descent ".......
>>>>
>>>> ..... a true Scotsman wouldn't make that mistake :>)))
>>>>
>>>> Andy in Eureka, whose paternal has it's genealogy
>>>> traced back to Daniel Charles Sharpe, a Scottish
>>>> immigrant who came to the new world in 1720, and was
>>>> later a hero in the Revolutionary War ( on the American side )...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> :>)))))))))))))))))))

== 11 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:17 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Rod Speed, ye grotesque dullest peasant in the camp, your purpled hands
do reek and smoke, ye poured out:

> do some guys make out that they dont like a girl or are not bothered
> by girl when they actually do like her if they are really shy? if so,
> why?

== 12 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:15 pm
From: "Nixon.D"

<thuss@anhywhere.usa> wrote in message
news:a82584p65l06okm1a5h89g4ctm3972kva6@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:53:48 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Gina wrote:
>>
>>> Curious how others make ends meet?
>>>
>>> I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
>>> tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
>>> napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
>>
>>Use rags? If you have anything left big enough to clean with when your
>>clothes are worn out you're not wearing them long enough!
>>
>>Cloth napkins? NAPKINS? LOOOOOOXURY! When I was a kid we didn't have
>>napkins, we didn't even have FOOD! If we wanted to eat we hung out at
>>the laundromat and dipped soup out of the washers when nobody was looking.
> No food? Sheee-yet, gal. When I was a kid, we was so po' that when
> the neighbors were eatin' beans, we stood ourselves outsdie they
> windows and smelled their farts for supper.
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You are a disgrace to this newsgroup. Good grief !!! Some of the
stuff you write would even make ol' Cornbread or her "Kenny" toss their
cookies !

McDaveOfMerryland
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== 13 of 13 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:22 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Rod Speed, ye infected unadvised scold, this is the silliest stuff that
I ever heard, ye vacillated:

> I've been dead before.

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TOPIC: angle grinder to cut and clean tiles
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 4:52 pm
From: "SteveB"

john westmore_______ wrote:

> I have a broken tile in the tiled sill below the front window, on our
> house. As it's on a curve, i need to cut a new tile to shape.
>
> I was thinking of buying an inexpensive angle grinder to do this job.
> could anyone please recommend an inexpensive one?

Dremel

There are plenty of grinding wheels, too.

> Also the tiles were painted black at one time, and we would like to
> remove this paint and restore the tiles to their original red colour.
> Would I be able to easily grind off this paint with the angle grinder
> and if so what kind of disc should i buy for this job? Thanks for
> any advice.

Don't grind the paint. You'll ruin the tiles.

Paint stripper will get the paint off the tiles, but you'll never get
the paint out of the grout. Buy the Dremel attachment for removing
grout, then put in new grout.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 5:02 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

john westmore_______ <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:

> I have a broken tile in the tiled sill below the front window, on our house. As it's on a curve, i need to cut a new
> tile to shape.

> I was thinking of buying an inexpensive angle grinder to do this job.

That will do the job fine.

> could anyone please recommend an inexpensive one?

Whatever you can find will do the job fine.

Nope, you'll damage the red surface doing it that way.

If the tiles are highly glazed, paint stripper should work, but you'll have to
regrout the tiles because the grout will have soaked up the black paint.

> and if so what kind of disc should i buy for this job?

Even a wire brush will damage the red surface, but is what
you should use for that if you want to do it that way anyway.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:19 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Rod Speed, ye paunchy martyr slain in cupid's wars, thou lump of foul
deformity, ye peeped:

> I almost typed another lame. I'm so ashamed.

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TOPIC: What does it cost to feed yourself these days?
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 5:04 pm
From: val189

On Jul 19, 10:11 am, James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote:
I don't seem to be able to make any
> meal for less than $5.

I can eat a banana, a dollop of cottage cheese and some homemade bread
for lunch and it prob. works out to about a buck and a half. If you
are grabbing the Lean Cuisine type things, then, yes, you prob. are
spending more, but I have seen even those go on sale 2 for 5.

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 5:07 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote
> h <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote
>> James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote

>>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a
>>> single person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8
>>> including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to
>>> make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2.
>>> Fresh veges even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.

>> Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye
>> comes to exactly $2.99. Maybe add a few cents for spices and
>> olive oil, too. A can of tuna with some mayo and backyard veg
>> makes for an under $1.50 lunch.

>> Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than $1.00.
>> Meals are much cheaper when you make them from scratch.

> I gave up my community plot this year because it's 5 miles away so gas
> cost wipes out any savings. My back yard is too shady to grow any
> crops and the squirrels eat all my apples and pears before they ripe.

You can still buy potatoes for a hell of lot less than $5 per meal.

> They best I've been able to get is NY steak with bone at $5/lb on special.

Thats still less than $5 per meal if you eat half a pound per meal.

And a curry costs a hell of a lot less than that per meal.

> Some times I might be able to get your price if there are some expiring meat available.

> I get acid reflux eating can tuna or salmon. I stop buying eggs as they
> cost more than twice now. Used to regularly get them for about $1/doz.

Even at $2/doz thats a lot less than $5 per meal.

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 5:34 pm
From: James

On Jul 19, 8:07 pm, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote:
> James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>
>
>
>
> > h <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote
> >> James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote
> >>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a
> >>> single person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8
> >>> including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to
> >>> make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2.
> >>> Fresh veges even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
> >> Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye
> >> comes to exactly $2.99. Maybe add a few cents for spices and
> >> olive oil, too. A can of tuna with some mayo and backyard veg
> >> makes for an under $1.50 lunch.
> >> Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than $1.00.
> >> Meals are much cheaper when you make them from scratch.
> > I gave up my community plot this year because it's 5 miles away so gas
> > cost wipes out any savings. My back yard is too shady to grow any
> > crops and the squirrels eat all my apples and pears before they ripe.
>
> You can still buy potatoes for a hell of lot less than $5 per meal.
>
> > They best I've been able to get is NY steak with bone at $5/lb on special.
>
> Thats still less than $5 per meal if you eat half a pound per meal.
>
> And a curry costs a hell of a lot less than that per meal.
>
> > Some times I might be able to get your price if there are some expiring meat available.
> > I get acid reflux eating can tuna or salmon. I stop buying eggs as they
> > cost more than twice now. Used to regularly get them for about $1/doz.
>
> Even at $2/doz thats a lot less than $5 per meal.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

You and you dog can eat manure almost for free.

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 5:40 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>> James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote
>>> h <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote
>>>> James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote

>>>>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a
>>>>> single person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet
>>>>> ($8 including tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be
>>>>> able to make any meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is
>>>>> around $2. Fresh veges even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.

>>>> Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye
>>>> comes to exactly $2.99. Maybe add a few cents for spices and
>>>> olive oil, too. A can of tuna with some mayo and backyard veg
>>>> makes for an under $1.50 lunch.

>>>> Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than $1.00.
>>>> Meals are much cheaper when you make them from scratch.

>>> I gave up my community plot this year because it's 5 miles away so gas
>>> cost wipes out any savings. My back yard is too shady to grow any
>>> crops and the squirrels eat all my apples and pears before they ripe.

>> You can still buy potatoes for a hell of lot less than $5 per meal.

>>> They best I've been able to get is NY steak with bone at $5/lb on special.

>> Thats still less than $5 per meal if you eat half a pound per meal.

>> And a curry costs a hell of a lot less than that per meal.

>>> Some times I might be able to get your price if there are some
>>> expiring meat available. I get acid reflux eating can tuna or
>>> salmon. I stop buying eggs as they cost more than twice now.
>>> Used to regularly get them for about $1/doz.

>> Even at $2/doz thats a lot less than $5 per meal.

> You and you dog can eat manure almost for free.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:17 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

James FUCKING WHAT THE FUCK! <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote YELLOW
BASTARD! BAREBACK! ANUS!
> h <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote
>> James <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote

>> Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than $1.00.
>> Meals are much cheaper when you make them from scratch.

You FUCKING BUGGERY! can still buy FUCKING ANUS-QUEEN! PUSSYLIPS!
BOLLOCKS! potatoes for a FUCKING GAY! hell of lot FUCKING ASSKISSER!
BOOBIES! less than $5 FUCKING BUSTED CHERRY! BUTT PEDDLER! BAREBACK! per
meal. ASS-TO-MOUTH! PECKER!

> They best I've been able to get is NY steak with bone at $5/lb on special.

Thats FUCKING BITCH-QUEEN! still less than FUCKING CORNHOLER! LOVE
TRUNCHEON! $5 per meal FUCKING KNOB! if you eat FUCKING BUTTHEAD!
TOWN-TRAMP! half a pound FUCKING LOVE MELONS! per meal. ARSE GREASE!
FUCK-ROD! PENIS!

And FUCKING QUEER! a curry costs a FUCKING LOVE LOG! BAPS! COCK TEASER!
ANAL COPULATOR! hell of a lot FUCKING SCUMBAG! BLIND SNAKE! less than
that per FUCKING CLITTY! BOUNCER! ANAL COLLAR! FUDDY-DUDDY! meal.
NYMPHO! PUSSY-POKER! DICKBREATH! BUTT! GODDAM!

> Some times I might be able to get your price if there are some expiring meat available.

> I get acid reflux eating can tuna or salmon. I stop buying eggs as they
> cost more than twice now. Used to regularly get them for about $1/doz.

Even FUCKING CREAM-JUGS! at $2/doz thats FUCKING PIMPLE! JOCKSTRAP! a
lot less FUCKING ARSE PIRATE! than $5 per FUCKING FLESH INJECTION!
COCKROACH! BANGING FUDGE! CIRCUS BOY! BUM HOLE! BUTT BREATH! FUCKING
BITCH! meal. BUNNY FUCK! PIECE-OF-FLUFF! GODDAMMIT! PUSTULE! LOVE TOOL!

== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:18 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Rod Speed, ye mewling living rascal, as I told you always, thy self and
thy brain go not together, ye beefed:

> Tightfisted poo-puncher with long prong, deteriorated plums, and
> flexible food-dropper would die for pumping demeanor for fanatical in
> and out jobs and pitiless beating the meat on the toilet seat.
>
> Email me at mailto:rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com.

== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:20 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Rod Speed, ye burr-headed wide-chapp'd rascal, do thou amend thy face,
and I'll amend my life, ye contrived:

> I have given up on trying to to get a girlfriend. I'm a very
> confident, very good looking guy. I can handle myself as I am very
> physically fit. I do boxing, run up stairs, hills, play various kinds
> of sports extremely well and am able to learn new sports and
> exercises. I really should be a personal trainer. I help people with
> highly technical computer subjects, and many people thank me for my
> help and compliment my skills and extensive education. Yet, despite
> all my good points, people laugh at me. I don't understand this at
> all. It always happens to me for some reason. I would do things in
> school where everyone was laughing hard at me, like sometimes I would
> have two different kinds of shoes on. Wow! Everyone notices. I just
> accept it. People point at me and laugh, but I'm always being
> complimented and approached by guys and girls. Girls think I'm really,
> really cute then, after talking to me, they kind of walk away. I try
> to impress them, 'Uhh. Hi I'm cool. I can eat 22 hot dogs. What's your
> name?'

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:48 pm
From: "catalpa"

You can't make a meal for less than $5 ???

Perdue chicken leg quarters were on sale for $0.59 a lb. I bought 5 lbs,
cooked 3 lbs and froze 2 lbs. The 3 lbs of chicken lasts for 3 dinners. Add
a vegetable, pasta or potatoes and dessert and each meal is less than $1.50.

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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 11:04 am
From: High Miles <2Blues17@comcast.net>

Joan F (MI) wrote:
> Oh, yes, forgot to mention that I never buy things like TV dinners. I do
> use butter, I buy real food and cook most of our meals, only buy a couple of
> things once in a while already made that are too much bother to make
> yourself like fried chicken, I could never duplicate Popeye's spicy Cajun
> chicken.

One of my few weaknesses, and just about the only truly unhealthy meal
I enjoy on a regular basis.
Love that jalepeno gravy on mashed taters too.

== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 11:35 am
From: lisajoe@privacy.net

Use water instead of TP

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:08:43 -0700 (PDT), in misc.consumers.frugal-living Al
Bundy <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>Gina wrote:
>> Curious how others make ends meet?
>>
>> I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
>> tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
>> napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
>>
>>
>> I recycle for the environment.
>
>I don't use butter because it's 100% fat.
>Prepared foods like TV dinners are too expensive.
>I don't use less tooth paste. I use the correct amount.
>Two rolls of towels at the dollar store is not very expensive.
>But yes, I too use rags.

== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 11:59 am
From: thuss@anhywhere.usa

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:05:21 -0700 (PDT), AndyS <andysharpe@juno.com>
wrote:

>
>
>Nixon.D wrote:
>> Being of Scotch descent I'm just naturally in favor of all variety of
>> frugalities !!!
>>
>
>Andy comments:
>
> Your ancestor was a bottle of whiskey ???
>
>I think you mean " of SCOTTISH descent ".......
>
>..... a true Scotsman wouldn't make that mistake :>)))
>
> Andy in Eureka, whose paternal has it's genealogy
>traced back to Daniel Charles Sharpe, a Scottish
>immigrant who came to the new world in 1720, and was
>later a hero in the Revolutionary War ( on the American side )...
>
>
> :>)))))))))))))))))))
Actually, if you listen carefully, a Scotsman will say "Sccot-sh",
which sounds very close to "Scotch". It is spelled s-c-o-t-s, but
many there pronounce the final "s" as "sh". And the "t" so close
invites the "tch" sound.

== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 12:11 pm
From: thuss@anhywhere.usa

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:35:59 -0700, lisajoe@privacy.net wrote:

>
>Use water instead of TP
>
>
I understand that in some countries, a water spray system is installed
in toilets for this purpose. Some Americans think is it a misplaced
bidet, but it is for That.

== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 12:55 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Jul 19, 8:51 am, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:
> Al Bundy wrote:
>
> > Gina wrote:
> >> Curious how others make ends meet?
>
> >> I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
> >> tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
> >> napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
>
> >> I recycle for the environment.
>
> > I don't use butter because it's 100% fat.
>
> Even if it was 100% fat it turns out to be healthier than margarine. Who
> would have thought that a tub of hydrogenated oils would have been bad
> for you.
>
> I switched to real butter a while back. It's one of those rare items
> that is cheaper than it was years earlier (I guess because of there
> being so much skim and low fat milk). And not only doesn't it take much,
> but it tastes like the real deal because it is.
>
> Jeff
>
There's no need to use margarine either. I've heard the health claims
for butter. I just don't chose to wear it.

== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 2:53 pm
From: The Real Bev

Gina wrote:

> Curious how others make ends meet?
>
> I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
> tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
> napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.

Use rags? If you have anything left big enough to clean with when your
clothes are worn out you're not wearing them long enough!

Cloth napkins? NAPKINS? LOOOOOOXURY! When I was a kid we didn't have
napkins, we didn't even have FOOD! If we wanted to eat we hung out at
the laundromat and dipped soup out of the washers when nobody was looking.

--
Cheers,
Bev
---------------------------------------
That's my opinion. Ought to be yours.

== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 3:34 pm
From: "Nixon.D"

My Dear Andy;

Your abysmally naive response to my post cannot be ignored !!

The Scotch drink you refer to is NOT "whiskey" it is whisky. ONLY
Scotland is allowed by international law to call their spirits WHISKY.
"Whiskey" is probably something they bastardized in Texas as they gradually
lost the civilizing protocols and living standards of Scotland.

Scotch; (noun); The people of Scotland (American Heritage Dictionary). One
of which you more than likely are. And, as I am myself which I am most
proud to proclaim.

My Scottish ancestors made their way, by unknown means, to the place now
known as Horse Cave, Kentucky sometime back in the 1700's. They kept very
few records there in those olden days but they were a hearty/hardy/thrifty
and independent folk that did not tolerate any anti-American horse shit !
They were never slave-holders so we have never felt any "guilt" about that
mess of crap nor have we ever been inclined to fork over any
reparations" - - - and frugality demands that we NEVER do that ! ......
<chuckle thrice>

But, I think you really should go check out that "Daddy Danny Sharpe" again.

McDaveOfMerryland
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.
..... .

"AndyS" <andysharpe@juno.com> wrote in message
news:d705c08f-f2b3-46dd-8b0c-d8b3a45624a8@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> Nixon.D wrote:
>> Being of Scotch descent I'm just naturally in favor of all variety of
>> frugalities !!!
>>
>
> Andy comments:
>
> Your ancestor was a bottle of whiskey ???
>
> I think you mean " of SCOTTISH descent ".......
>
> ..... a true Scotsman wouldn't make that mistake :>)))
>
> Andy in Eureka, whose paternal has it's genealogy
> traced back to Daniel Charles Sharpe, a Scottish
> immigrant who came to the new world in 1720, and was
> later a hero in the Revolutionary War ( on the American side )...
>
>
> :>)))))))))))))))))))

== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 3:37 pm
From: "Nixon.D"

<thuss@anhywhere.usa> wrote in message
news:a9e484ldk8dvouftb88jo2u8lb62a1fgbu@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 08:05:21 -0700 (PDT), AndyS <andysharpe@juno.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Nixon.D wrote:
>>> Being of Scotch descent I'm just naturally in favor of all variety of
>>> frugalities !!!
>>>
>>
>>Andy comments:
>>
>> Your ancestor was a bottle of whiskey ???
>>
>>I think you mean " of SCOTTISH descent ".......
>>
>>..... a true Scotsman wouldn't make that mistake :>)))
>>
>> Andy in Eureka, whose paternal has it's genealogy
>>traced back to Daniel Charles Sharpe, a Scottish
>>immigrant who came to the new world in 1720, and was
>>later a hero in the Revolutionary War ( on the American side )...
>>
>>
>> :>)))))))))))))))))))
> Actually, if you listen carefully, a Scotsman will say "Sccot-sh",
> which sounds very close to "Scotch". It is spelled s-c-o-t-s, but
> many there pronounce the final "s" as "sh". And the "t" so close
> invites the "tch" sound.

=================================================

And, no . . . I did NOT mean "Scottish Descent". I meant SCOTCH.
That's the way we here in America spell and pronounce that. Look in the
American Heritage dictionary.

McDaveOfMerryland
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== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 3:43 pm
From: "Nixon.D"

<hchickpea@hotmail.com> wrote in >
> If you are REALLY anal about recycling, you can soak the used plastic
> wrap in a bleach and water solution, rinse, dry and re-use.
====================================

I don't know what "anal" means in this context but if you want to be really
frugal you'll do like we do; marinate the plastic wrap and styrofoam in a
container overnight and eat it the next day as a sandwich-snack! I goes
quite good with a can of kippers.

McDaveOfMerryland
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== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 3:51 pm
From: "Nixon.D"

You better be careful about those raggedy clothes! They'll git' you for
indecent expotions.
....

McDaveOfMerryland

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"The Real Bev" <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Kntgk.613$JK7.347@newsfe02.iad...
> Gina wrote:
>
>> Curious how others make ends meet?
>>
>> I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less tooth
>> paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper napkins, don't
>> use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
>
> Use rags? If you have anything left big enough to clean with when your
> clothes are worn out you're not wearing them long enough!
>
> Cloth napkins? NAPKINS? LOOOOOOXURY! When I was a kid we didn't have
> napkins, we didn't even have FOOD! If we wanted to eat we hung out at the
> laundromat and dipped soup out of the washers when nobody was looking.
>
> --
> Cheers,
> Bev
> ---------------------------------------
> That's my opinion. Ought to be yours.

== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 3:48 pm
From: "Nixon.D"

Heh, heh, heh,,,,,

Your post reminds of my good fortune in not having to worry any longer about
toilet paper.

With my intractible back pain I can no longer use it.

There's some kind of good to be found in almost every situation.

McDaveOfMerryland
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"Joan F (MI)" <jjfahl@removethisameritech.net> wrote in message
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>I have a lovely matched set of plastic containers of various sizes that
>came
> with food in them. I brush my teeth with water, hate toothpaste. I do
> use
> a Kleenex when I need a napkin, can't stand cloth napkins. Only use paper
> towels to dry food I have washed, not for cleaning tasks. I buy toilet
> paper made from recycled paper, used to buy Green Forest but Kroger (who
> was
> the only one that carried it) discontinued it and replaced it with Sunrise
> which I think I like a bit better. Most of this is motivated less by
> saving
> money than the fact that I hate waste.
>
> We recycle our newspapers and a few other things, don't have curbside
> recycling so we have to take it to the recycling center.
>
> Gina wrote:
> | Curious how others make ends meet?
> |
> | I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
> | tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
> | napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
> |
> |
> | I recycle for the environment.
>
>

== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 4:21 pm
From: California Poppy

On Jul 19, 3:48�pm, "Nixon.D" <nixo...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Heh, heh, heh,,,,,
>
> Your post reminds of my good fortune in not having to worry any longer about
> toilet paper.
>
> With my intractible back pain I can no longer use it.
>
> There's some kind of good to be found in almost every situation.
>
> McDaveOfMerryland
> ==============================================================
>
> "Joan F (MI)" <jjf...@removethisameritech.net> wrote in messagenews:2P-dndWjCqvUtR_VnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
>
>
>
> >I have a lovely matched set of plastic containers of various sizes that
> >came
> > with food in them. �I brush my teeth with water, hate toothpaste. �I do
> > use
> > a Kleenex when I need a napkin, can't stand cloth napkins. �Only use paper
> > towels to dry food I have washed, not for cleaning tasks. �I buy toilet
> > paper made from recycled paper, used to buy Green Forest but Kroger (who
> > was
> > the only one that carried it) discontinued it and replaced it with Sunrise
> > which I think I like a bit better. �Most of this is motivated less by
> > saving
> > money than the fact that I hate waste.
>
> > We recycle our newspapers and a few other things, don't have curbside
> > recycling so we have to take it to the recycling center.
>
> > Gina wrote:
> > | Curious how others make ends meet?
> > |
> > | I reuse all I can. �Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
> > | tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
> > | napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). �Use rags.
> > |
> > |
> > | I recycle for the environment.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Do you mean that you no longer deficate? Or is it that you use
something other than TP?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 11:35 am
From: lisajoe@privacy.net

Electric lawn mowers are quiet.

On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:12:27 -0700 (PDT), in misc.consumers.frugal-living
balanco01@yahoo.com wrote:

> You would think that manufacturers in the 21st century would have
>figured out by now how to make phy$ical yard work machines (even gASS)
>powered ones more quiet, but I guess they are too cheap to do this.
>While even a rather quiet machine still might not be enough to keep
>from pissing off the bees in your own yard, at least they don't sound
>like a fucking F1 Race car or a motorcycle which WILL piss the bees
>off in your yard and a large area around it.
>
>
>http://wwwrbag.com/q_view/274
>
> Top Answer out of 4
>by Andy Ninja Wicked Poses as Ms Mueller72 on Jul 23, 2004 at 1:27 pm
>Permalink
>
>Avatar
>Africanized honey bees pose the greatest threat to people who must
>work outdoors: farmers, construction workers, rangers, landscapers and
>yard maintenance workers, and even pest control workers. Like European
>honey bees, AHBs can sting only once. It is their sheer numbers that
>create the threat. While foraging, bees are usually not aggressive.
>They get most feisty when their nest is threatened. Most cases of AHB
>attacks have been traced back to some provocation: a lawnmower, weed
>eater, or tractor.
>
>The first sign of a potential attack is often a preliminary defense
>behavior such as flying at your face or buzzing over your head. This
>is a signal that you have entered their area and are seen as a threat.
>If bees become agitated, the most important thing to do is get away as
>soon as possible. Do not wait for them to calm down, try to retrieve
>belongings, or wave your arms to get them off you.
>
>SPEED: A bee can fly at speeds from 12 to 15 miles per hour and most
>healthy humans can outrun them. So, RUN and KEEP RUNNING! AHBs have
>been known to follow people for more than a quarter mile.
>
>Any covering for your head and face will help you escape. People that
>have been attacked say the worst part is being stung in the face and
>eyes. Once this occurs, your vision will be obscured and your chance
>of escape substantially lowered. If you have nothing else, pull your
>shirt up over your face. Take refuge in a house, tent, or car as soon
>as possible. The bees will find any opening, so make sure all possible
>entrances are sealed. Do not jump into water. The bees will wait for
>you to surface.
>
>10
>Pts
>
>
>Rate Answer
>
>flag

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 11:39 am
From: lisajoe@privacy.net

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 10:10:45 -0700 (PDT), in misc.consumers.frugal-living
hpope@lycos.com wrote:

>Run them all out of America.
>
>mitch

You first Eurotrash!

== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 12:07 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

James <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote:

> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for
> a single person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat
> buffet ($8 including tip) and a light meal at home.

> I don't seem to be able to make any meal for less than $5.

More fool you.

> Even a can of soup is around $2.

But you dont necessarily get only one meal from that can and soup is pretty poor value anyway.

> Fresh veges even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.

Bullshit, most obviously with potatoes.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 2:17 pm
From: "h"

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5993fd35-74a2-4808-8565-fbd57d936311@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8 including
> tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to make any
> meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh veges
> even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>
Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye comes to
exactly $2.99. Maybe add a few cents for spices and olive oil, too. A can
of tuna with some mayo and backyard veg makes for an under $1.50 lunch.
Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than $1.00. Meals are much
cheaper when you make them from scratch.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 2:34 pm
From: lisajoe@privacy.net

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:17:30 -0400, in misc.consumers.frugal-living "h"
<tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:

>
>"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:5993fd35-74a2-4808-8565-fbd57d936311@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
>> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8 including
>> tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to make any
>> meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh veges
>> even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>>
>Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye comes to
>exactly $2.99. Maybe add a few cents for spices and olive oil, too. A can
>of tuna with some mayo and backyard veg makes for an under $1.50 lunch.
>Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than $1.00. Meals are much
>cheaper when you make them from scratch.
>

farmers markets round here are really overpriced affairs;.

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 3:30 pm
From: "h"

<lisajoe@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 17:17:30 -0400, in misc.consumers.frugal-living "h"
> <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:5993fd35-74a2-4808-8565-fbd57d936311@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
>>> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8 including
>>> tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to make any
>>> meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh veges
>>> even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>>>
>>Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye comes to
>>exactly $2.99. Maybe add a few cents for spices and olive oil, too. A can
>>of tuna with some mayo and backyard veg makes for an under $1.50 lunch.
>>Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than $1.00. Meals are much
>>cheaper when you make them from scratch.
>>
>
>
> farmers markets round here are really overpriced affairs;.

And, at least around here, most of the produce isn't even locally grown.
That's why we grow our own.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 4:20 pm
From: James

On Jul 19, 5:17 pm, "h" <tmcl...@searchmachine.com> wrote:
> "James" <j0069b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5993fd35-74a2-4808-8565-fbd57d936311@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
> > person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8 including
> > tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to make any
> > meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh veges
> > even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>
> Fresh veggies from the back yard and 1/2 lb of boneless ribeye comes to
> exactly $2.99. Maybe add a few cents for spices and olive oil, too. A can
> of tuna with some mayo and backyard veg makes for an under $1.50 lunch.
> Breakfast is 2 eggs and a slice of ham for less than $1.00. Meals are much
> cheaper when you make them from scratch.

I gave up my community plot this year because it's 5 miles away so gas
cost wipes out any savings. My back yard is too shady to grow any
crops and the squirrels eat all my apples and pears before they ripe.

They best I've been able to get is NY steak with bone at $5/lb on
special. Some times I might be able to get your price if there are
some expiring meat available.

I get acid reflux eating can tuna or salmon. I stop buying eggs as
they cost more than twice now. Used to regularly get them for about
$1/doz.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 4:28 pm
From: James

On Jul 19, 1:00 pm, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> YTD, we've averaged $95 / wk for two (retired - early 60's, eating out
> 1-2 times/wk - mostly a lunch or breakfast) vs. $84 /wk in 07. That $95
> includes food as well as paper goods, cleaning supplies, personal items
> (toothpaste, vitamins, razor blades, etc), etc. That's less than $2.50
> / meal, including non food items. I don't have a breakdown between food
> vs. non food expenditures. Fresh meats, seafood & vegetables are an
> important part of our diet with minimal freezing / canned goods.

A friend told me it used to cost $200 to $250 a month for groceries
for one person couple years ago but don't have current figures.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 1:12 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Jul 17, 1:29 pm, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> JMILGTP wrote:
> >Go to my new website!
> >http://www.garbage-sale-items.com
>
> I especially liked the spyware attached to the hidden cookie.

Whew! At 29¢ a page those college texts look cheap by comparison now.
Today, everyone thinks they can become rich and famous on the Internet
overnight. Most, like this one, are wasting their time. What the hell
do we care what he pays for things at a garage sale? You have to
bargain the best price at your available garage sales. Of course you
have to know a bargain when you spot it and what it can sell for. You
can tell that for free by looking at eBay.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 1:25 pm
From: Al Bundy

On Jul 9, 5:20 pm, clams_casino <PeterGrif...@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
> Al Bundy wrote:
> >xiaob...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> >>do business on the internet . want buy much popular and inexpensive
> >>price go
>
> >Rots of ruck getting that stuff over the border.
> .
> Someone would actually believe a beacutiful spammer would deliver the goods?

And we're still weeks away from the Olympics. The surge is coming from
now on. We'll be seeing official Wilma Roudolf signature shoes and leg
braces.

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 3:01 pm
From: Mike Copeland

> However, the Argentine ants here in California are omnivorous -
they'll eat
> just about anything. And, as I said, they're tough to kill 'cuz they have
> multiple queens and they can go to any nest, unlike other ants.

Multiple queens......only in california!!

Sorry couldn't resist :)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 4:35 pm
From: 01dyna <01dyna@noplace.com>

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:01:37 -0400, Mike Copeland
<mcopelandAT@pobox.comcom> you wrote:

ROFLAO!

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 3:39 pm
From: "john westmore_______"

I have a broken tile in the tiled sill below the front window, on our
house. As it's on a curve, i need to cut a new tile to shape.

I was thinking of buying an inexpensive angle grinder to do this job. could
anyone please recommend an inexpensive one?

Also the tiles were painted black at one time, and we would like to remove
this paint and restore the tiles to their original red colour. Would I be
able to easily grind off this paint with the angle grinder and if so what
kind of disc should i buy for this job? Thanks for any advice.

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* Frugal ways - 12 messages, 7 authors
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* LOUD lawnmowers and other LOUD machines putting people at risk for killer
bee attacks - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Spacing Trips to the Grocery Store? - 1 messages, 1 author
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* What does it cost to feed yourself these days? - 7 messages, 6 authors
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 7:12 am
From: Ken

On Jul 19, 3:51 am, Gina <m...@privacy.net.invalid> wrote:
> Curious how others make ends meet?

Every time I almost manage to the ends meet, someone screws with me
and moves the ends.

In reality, don't have much of a problem in that area.
The hovel is paid for, my SO and I split most of the other expenses
(she's on SSD), have a few bucks in the bank or in coffee cans in the
backyard.

If only I could remember where I buried 'em, I'd be rich

== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 7:17 am
From: toci

On Jul 19, 5:51 am, Gina <m...@privacy.net.invalid> wrote:
> Curious how others make ends meet?
>
> I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
> tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
> napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
>
> I recycle for the environment.

No car. My daughter's the only driver in the household, and she
occasionally rents one. Recycle weekly. Toci

== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 7:17 am
From: toci

On Jul 19, 9:12 am, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 19, 3:51 am, Gina <m...@privacy.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > Curious how others make ends meet?
>
> Every time I almost manage to the ends meet, someone screws with me
> and moves the ends.
>
> In reality, don't have much of a problem in that area.
> The hovel is paid for, my SO and I split most of the other expenses
> (she's on SSD), have a few bucks in the bank or in coffee cans in the
> backyard.
>
> If only I could remember where I buried 'em, I'd be rich
My mansion is paid for, too. Toci

== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:20 am
From: hchickpea@hotmail.com

On 19 Jul 2008 10:51:15 GMT, Gina <me@privacy.net.invalid> wrote:

>Curious how others make ends meet?
>
>I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
>tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
>napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
>
>
>I recycle for the environment.

Our butter doesn't come in tubs, but we always have some chinese take
out containers even though we've only had chinese food a couple times
this past year. Paper towels don't have to be expensive. A case is
typically 30 rolls, and the generic brands can be had for as little as
$16/case. Newspaper also works for many clean-ups. They don't call
them fishwrap for nuthin.

Make your own tv dinners and you can save more money. If you cook
some rice, chicken, and vegetable of choice, and then parcel it out in
the amounts provided in tv dinners, you can get 20 dinners out of one
chicken.* Better yet, use small freezer containers lined with plastic
wrap to freeze individual portions of your slightly cooled mass
cooking. Once the portions are frozen into the blocklike shapes, you
can remove them from the freezer containers. That way you can have a
few boxes of mix-n-match instant dinners. Just select what you want -
turkey, chicken, beef, whatever, add a vegetable, add potato, rice or
pasta, remove from the wrap and heat.

Figuring one fryer at 4 to 5 lbs, the meat weight is conservatively
2.5 lbs, the portion size is 2 oz. Cost of fryer on sale -$5. Cost
of 1 lb bag of rice -$1 Cost of 1 lb bag of frozen peas - $1.50.
Total cost for twenty meals $7.50 plus electricity and wrap, or 45
cents per meal, compared to at least $1 for the cheapest tv dinners.
(Portion out Mac-n-cheese and you can make tv dinners for 20 cents per
portion or less.) On top of that, if you boil the chicken, you get a
quart or more of chicken stock, and schmaltz to spread on bread if you
are so inclined. The remains can be whizzed and added to the compost
- by doing so, the dogs will smell the chicken and dig in the compost
to aerate it for you for free, and yet not be dragging out bones or
animal parts. To answer your question, YES, animal matter CAN be
added to compost. It is done all the time on farms. The fear of
attracting rats, possums, 'coons, or other vermin is the primary
reason why people are told not to add such material to small home
piles of compost. If you make the animal residue fine enough, and mix
it with lots of vegetable waste/ paper/ etc., or bury it deep in the
pile, it won't feed the vermin.

If you are REALLY anal about recycling, you can soak the used plastic
wrap in a bleach and water solution, rinse, dry and re-use.

== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 7:19 am
From: "Nixon.D"

"Al Bundy" <MSfortune@mcpmail.com> wrote in message
news:129b16cd-943d-4d6e-a756-7db723617351@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> Gina wrote:
>> Curious how others make ends meet?
>>
>> I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
>> tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
>> napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
>>
>>
>> I recycle for the environment.
>
> I don't use butter because it's 100% fat.
> Prepared foods like TV dinners are too expensive.
> I don't use less tooth paste. I use the correct amount.
> Two rolls of towels at the dollar store is not very expensive.
> But yes, I too use rags.
========================================================

Being of Scotch descent I'm just naturally in favor of all variety of
frugalities !!!

But, please tell me-- what, exactly, is the "correct" amount of toothpaste
to use?? I don't have all that many teeth left so I think I should be
authorized to use a rather small amount of the toothpaste.

TV dinners are way too expensive and their contents are near inedible (IMHO,
of course).....

McDave

== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:05 am
From: AndyS

Nixon.D wrote:
> Being of Scotch descent I'm just naturally in favor of all variety of
> frugalities !!!
>

Andy comments:

Your ancestor was a bottle of whiskey ???

I think you mean " of SCOTTISH descent ".......

..... a true Scotsman wouldn't make that mistake :>)))

Andy in Eureka, whose paternal has it's genealogy
traced back to Daniel Charles Sharpe, a Scottish
immigrant who came to the new world in 1720, and was
later a hero in the Revolutionary War ( on the American side )...

:>)))))))))))))))))))

== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:26 am
From: High Miles <2Blues17@comcast.net>

Ken wrote:
> On Jul 19, 3:51 am, Gina <m...@privacy.net.invalid> wrote:
>> Curious how others make ends meet?
>
>
> Every time I almost manage to the ends meet, someone screws with me
> and moves the ends.
>
> In reality, don't have much of a problem in that area.
> The hovel is paid for, my SO and I split most of the other expenses
> (she's on SSD), have a few bucks in the bank or in coffee cans in the
> backyard.
>
> If only I could remember where I buried 'em, I'd be rich

If you don't let your "ends" get too far apart, the meeting thing gets
a whole lot easier.
I think people who were once really poor fare better when money
becomes a bit tight.
The skills you learn from being poor last a lifetime.
Saving money is more important now than ever.
Of course - gold might be a better thing to save at the rate our
dollar is being driven down.

Dorothy

== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:27 am
From: High Miles <2Blues17@comcast.net>

toci wrote:
> On Jul 19, 9:12 am, Ken <flakey...@aol.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 19, 3:51 am, Gina <m...@privacy.net.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> Curious how others make ends meet?
>> Every time I almost manage to the ends meet, someone screws with me
>> and moves the ends.
>>
>> In reality, don't have much of a problem in that area.
>> The hovel is paid for, my SO and I split most of the other expenses
>> (she's on SSD), have a few bucks in the bank or in coffee cans in the
>> backyard.
>>
>> If only I could remember where I buried 'em, I'd be rich
> My mansion is paid for, too. Toci

I live right between you and Ken.
Neither hovel nor mansion..........................but free and clear.

== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 10:45 am
From: "Joan F $MI$"

I have a lovely matched set of plastic containers of various sizes that came
with food in them. I brush my teeth with water, hate toothpaste. I do use
a Kleenex when I need a napkin, can't stand cloth napkins. Only use paper
towels to dry food I have washed, not for cleaning tasks. I buy toilet
paper made from recycled paper, used to buy Green Forest but Kroger (who was
the only one that carried it) discontinued it and replaced it with Sunrise
which I think I like a bit better. Most of this is motivated less by saving
money than the fact that I hate waste.

We recycle our newspapers and a few other things, don't have curbside
recycling so we have to take it to the recycling center.

Gina wrote:
| Curious how others make ends meet?
|
| I reuse all I can. Butter tubs, tv dinner containers, use less
| tooth paste, cheap TP, use cloth napkins rather than buy paper
| napkins, don't use paper towels (WAY TOO expensive). Use rags.
|
|
| I recycle for the environment.

== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 10:48 am
From: "Joan F $MI$"

Oh, yes, forgot to mention that I never buy things like TV dinners. I do
use butter, I buy real food and cook most of our meals, only buy a couple of
things once in a while already made that are too much bother to make
yourself like fried chicken, I could never duplicate Popeye's spicy Cajun
chicken.

Al Bundy wrote:
|
| I don't use butter because it's 100% fat.
| Prepared foods like TV dinners are too expensive.
| I don't use less tooth paste. I use the correct amount.
| Two rolls of towels at the dollar store is not very expensive.
| But yes, I too use rags.

== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 10:51 am
From: "Joan F $MI$"

My dentist told me it was not necessary to use toothpaste, it is the
brushing that is important. I always have very good checkups. If you
really think you need something more than water try baking soda.

Shawn Hirn wrote:
|
| Good for you. Just be careful on using less toothpaste. Your savings
| there financially might cost you a lot more in the long-run if you end
| up with big dentist bills.

== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 11:04 am
From: High Miles <2Blues17@comcast.net>

One of my few weaknesses, and just about the only truly unhealthy meal
I enjoy on a regular basis.
Love that jalepeno gravy on mashed taters too.

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 7:32 am
From: "D&SW"

Go buy an electric and quit whinning.
<balanco01@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:623a7aa6-edb4-4a9a-a544-928cd106f107@c2g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> You would think that manufacturers in the 21st century would have
> figured out by now how to make phy$ical yard work machines (even gASS)
> powered ones more quiet, but I guess they are too cheap to do this.
> While even a rather quiet machine still might not be enough to keep
> from pissing off the bees in your own yard, at least they don't sound
> like a fucking F1 Race car or a motorcycle which WILL piss the bees
> off in your yard and a large area around it.
>
>
> http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/274
>
> Top Answer out of 4
> by Andy Ninja Wicked Poses as Ms Mueller72 on Jul 23, 2004 at 1:27 pm
> Permalink
>
> Avatar
> Africanized honey bees pose the greatest threat to people who must
> work outdoors: farmers, construction workers, rangers, landscapers and
> yard maintenance workers, and even pest control workers. Like European
> honey bees, AHBs can sting only once. It is their sheer numbers that
> create the threat. While foraging, bees are usually not aggressive.
> They get most feisty when their nest is threatened. Most cases of AHB
> attacks have been traced back to some provocation: a lawnmower, weed
> eater, or tractor.
>
> The first sign of a potential attack is often a preliminary defense
> behavior such as flying at your face or buzzing over your head. This
> is a signal that you have entered their area and are seen as a threat.
> If bees become agitated, the most important thing to do is get away as
> soon as possible. Do not wait for them to calm down, try to retrieve
> belongings, or wave your arms to get them off you.
>
> SPEED: A bee can fly at speeds from 12 to 15 miles per hour and most
> healthy humans can outrun them. So, RUN and KEEP RUNNING! AHBs have
> been known to follow people for more than a quarter mile.
>
> Any covering for your head and face will help you escape. People that
> have been attacked say the worst part is being stung in the face and
> eyes. Once this occurs, your vision will be obscured and your chance
> of escape substantially lowered. If you have nothing else, pull your
> shirt up over your face. Take refuge in a house, tent, or car as soon
> as possible. The bees will find any opening, so make sure all possible
> entrances are sealed. Do not jump into water. The bees will wait for
> you to surface.
>
> 10
> Pts
>
>
> Rate Answer
>
> flag

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:44 am
From: clams_casino

D&SW wrote:

> Go buy an electric and quit whinning.

Or some sheep.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 6:52 am
From: Ann

On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 20:16:10 +1000, FarmI wrote:

> "Ann" <nntpmail@epix.net> wrote in message
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:56:13 +1000, FarmI wrote:
>>> "Ann" <nntpmail@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:12:26 -0400, h wrote:
>>>>> "Ann" <nntpmail@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008 21:54:12 -0400, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
>>>>>>> "h" <tmclone@searchmachine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -snip-
>>>>>>>>The average American eats over 200 grams of carbs per day. Probably
>>>>>>>>explains why most of them are Orca fat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just saw this on the news-
>>>>>>> http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/story?id=5388954&page=1 A scientific
>>>>>>> look at low fat, low carb, and 'Mediterranean diets.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Low carbs was the winner-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bu not for women. "Women fared best on the Mediterranean diet,
>>>>>> losing about 14 pounds compared with about 5 pounds on the
>>>>>> low-carbohydrate plan."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Shrug. I don't low-carb to lose weight,
>>>>
>>>> And that's how I had interpreted what you had written, that it was
>>>> your preference ... not for weight loss.
>>>
>>> It may be her preference, but if she is doing it as she claims for
>>> "high energy" then she must have a sedentary lifestyle. Carbs are
>>> important to anyone who has an active lifestyle.
>>
>> Umm. I think I'll continue to side-step being drawn into that argument.
>> <g>
>
> :-)) I'm surpised that you aren't smelling fish. I am.

It would be a full time job replying to everything in m.r that "smells
fishy". Anyway, while the Atkins diet didn't suit me when I tried it
way-back-when, it does work for some people. So, I neither defend nor
condemn it.

== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 7:46 am
From: "Bill"

Shop at a grocery store like Walmart which has "price per ounce" labels on
the shelves for each food item. Look at all the different things you can buy
and see how much difference there is.

"James" wrote in message
> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8 including
> tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to make any
> meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh veges
> even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:09 am
From: George

James wrote:
> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8 including
> tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to make any
> meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh veges
> even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>
Can I suggest that if "making a meal" consists of opening cans of stuff
you might want to consider actually making stuff. You can make a huge
pot of real soup for not a lot of money that will provide multiple meals.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 8:40 am
From: "Brad Naylor"

"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> James wrote:
>> With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
>> person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8 including
>> tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to make any
>> meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh veges
>> even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>>
> Can I suggest that if "making a meal" consists of opening cans of stuff
> you might want to consider actually making stuff. You can make a huge pot
> of real soup for not a lot of money that will provide multiple meals.

Kids growing up today look at Hamburger Helper as a good home-cooked meal.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 9:12 am
From: James

On Jul 19, 11:09 am, George <geo...@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> James wrote:
> > With the high gas and grocery prices I find it cheaper for a single
> > person to have a big lunch at the all you can eat buffet ($8 including
> > tip) and a light meal at home. I don't seem to be able to make any
> > meal for less than $5. Even a can of soup is around $2. Fresh veges
> > even at the Farmer's market is out of sight.
>
> Can I suggest that if "making a meal" consists of opening cans of stuff
> you might want to consider actually making stuff. You can make a huge
> pot of real soup for not a lot of money that will provide multiple meals.

You need to also suggest buying a big fridge to keep the soup from
turning. One thing people don't realize is that making more than one
serving is not economical if the uneaten portion spoils. I buy
spaghett sauce and half of it usually get moldy in the fridge because
I only use half for one meal. That's probably why they started
selling one serving size bottles.

BTW I'm not looking for suggestions to lower cost. I'm more
interested in what other people spend in a $ figure per person.

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 10:00 am
From: clams_casino

James wrote:

>
>
>You need to also suggest buying a big fridge to keep the soup from
>turning. One thing people don't realize is that making more than one
>serving is not economical if the uneaten portion spoils. I buy
>spaghett sauce and half of it usually get moldy in the fridge because
>I only use half for one meal.
>

That's what the freezer portion is for. Making soup is not only
cheaper, but superior in quality and simple to freeze / reheat. We
have more than ample space in our refrigerator freezer to hold a few
containers of extra soup, spaghetti sauce & perhaps an extra portion of
chicken, hamburger, etc which is typically used within the following 2-3
weeks (relatively quick turnover). Buying one / two chicken breasts can
be costly, but we also don't stock up on month's supply.

>
>
>BTW I'm not looking for suggestions to lower cost. I'm more
>interested in what other people spend in a $ figure per person.
>
>
YTD, we've averaged $95 / wk for two (retired - early 60's, eating out
1-2 times/wk - mostly a lunch or breakfast) vs. $84 /wk in 07. That $95
includes food as well as paper goods, cleaning supplies, personal items
(toothpaste, vitamins, razor blades, etc), etc. That's less than $2.50
/ meal, including non food items. I don't have a breakdown between food
vs. non food expenditures. Fresh meats, seafood & vegetables are an
important part of our diet with minimal freezing / canned goods.

We saw a big spike in groceries costs (up to nearly $120/wk) during the
first quarter, but after an Aldi's moved in, we've been able to cut out
about $20/wk for the past quarter buy picking up staples at Aldi's vs.
Walmart & the local grocers (milk, eggs, select meats & vegetables,
snacks items, etc). I was reluctant at first to pick up much at Aldi's,
but we've been very pleased with their quality. Since their supply is
limited, we now start the week's shopping at Aldi's & supplement by
sales at local grocers and reducing our Walmart visits to only once /
month where paper goods, personal items, cereals & some snack items tend
to be the cheapest. We have a Super Walmart about eight miles away, but
I've not found their quality / pricing to be much better than using the
local Walmart / local grocers - not worth the trip for us.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 10:10 am
From: "clams_casino"

Wrote: james wrote: james wrot

Only cheaper, but we also don't stock up on month's superior in our
refrigerator freezer portion is not only cheaper, but we also don't
stock up on month's superior in quality and simple to freeze / two
chicken breasts can be costly, but we also don't stock up on month's
supply. that's what the freeze / two chicken, hamburger, but we also
don't stock up on month's supply. that's what the following soup is for.
making one / two chicken, hamburger, etc which is for. making soup,
spaghetti sauce & perhaps an extra portion is not only cheaper, etc
which is not only cheaper, but superior in quality and simple space in
our refrigerator freeze / two chicken, hamburger, etc which is for.
making 2-3 weeks (relatively quick turnover). buying one / two chicken
breasts can be costly, but supply. that's what the following one / two
chicken breasts can be costly, but we also don't stock up on month's
superior in our refrigerator freezer portion of extra portion.

>
>
>BTW I'm not looking for suggestions to lower cost. I'm more
>interested in what other people spend in a $ figure per person.
>
>
Averaged $95 includes food expenditures. fresh meats, seafood items.
fresh meal, including / canned goods, cleaning out 1-2 times/wk in 07.
that's less than $2.50 / meats, seafood as paper goods, cleaning
supplies, etc), etc. that's less than $2.50 / meal, including / canned
goods, cleaning supplies, personal items. fresh meats, seafood items
(toothpaste, vitamins, razor breakfast) vs. $84 /wk - mostly a lunch or
blades, eating / canned goods. ytd, we've averaged $95 including
supplies, etc. that's less than $2.50 / meal, including supplies, etc.
that $95 / wk for two (retired - early 60's, eating out 1-2 times/wk -
mostly a lunch or breakfast) vs. $84 /wk - mostly a lunch or breakfast)
vs. $84 /wk - mostly a lunch or breakdown between food items
(toothpaste, vitamins, razor breakfast) vs. $84 /wk in 07. that's less
than $2.50 / meats, seafood vs. non food & vegetables are an important
part of our diet with minimal freezing / canned goods, cleaning out 1-2
times/wk in 07. .

/ local grocers - not worth the local grocers - not worth the first to
nearly $120/wk) during their supplement by sales at aldi's moved in,
we've now start their supply is limited, we not found the trip for than
using the first to nearly $120/wk) during the first to pick up much at
first to picking to be the local grocers (milk, eggs, select meats &
vegetables, snack items tend the local groceries costs (up to pick up
much at aldi's vs. we have a super walmart about about eight miles at
aldi's & vegetables, snacks items, cereals & some snacks items, cereals
& some snack items, etc). i was reluctant at local grocers and reducing
up much better than using up start visits to be the local grocers (milk,
eggs, snack items, etc). i was reluctant at local grocers (milk, eggs,
snack items tend the cheapest. we have a super walmart & the past
quarter, but i've been able to cut out eight miles away, but i've been
ables, select meats & some snacks items, etc). i was reluctant at
aldi's & supplement by sales away, but i've been ables, select meats &
supply is limited, we not worth the past quarter, but i've been able to
cut out about eight miles at aldi's vs. walmart about eight miles away,
but i've not worth the local walmart & the local walmart / local walmart
visits to cut out about after their quality / pricing our walmart & the
local walmart the trip for us. walmart & the past quarter, but after an
aldi's, but about eight miles away, but we've been ables, select meats &
some snacks items, etc). i was reluctant at local walmart about eight
miles at aldi's & supplement by sales at aldi's, but we've now start &
the cheapest. we have a super walmart about eight miles.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 10:27 am
From: George

clams_casino wrote:
> James wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> You need to also suggest buying a big fridge to keep the soup from
>> turning. One thing people don't realize is that making more than one
>> serving is not economical if the uneaten portion spoils. I buy
>> spaghett sauce and half of it usually get moldy in the fridge because
>> I only use half for one meal.
>
> That's what the freezer portion is for. Making soup is not only
> cheaper, but superior in quality and simple to freeze / reheat. We
> have more than ample space in our refrigerator freezer to hold a few
> containers of extra soup, spaghetti sauce & perhaps an extra portion of
> chicken, hamburger, etc which is typically used within the following 2-3
> weeks (relatively quick turnover). Buying one / two chicken breasts can
> be costly, but we also don't stock up on month's supply.
>

For sure, the main driver for us making soup is by far the superior
quality. The significantly lower price comes as a nice bonus. You don't
need to make foodservice sized quantities. We have a normal
refrigerator/freezer and make larger batches and maybe put one in the
fridge and freeze a couple meals that will be used just as you described.

Bigbox hasn't completely taken over here. We buy our meats at a large
local family owned market. The reach in coolers are typically stocked
with two sizes of everything at the same price. So you can buy 3 pork
chops or 10 chops etc

>>
>>
>> BTW I'm not looking for suggestions to lower cost. I'm more
>> interested in what other people spend in a $ figure per person.
>>
>>
> YTD, we've averaged $95 / wk for two (retired - early 60's, eating out
> 1-2 times/wk - mostly a lunch or breakfast) vs. $84 /wk in 07. That $95
> includes food as well as paper goods, cleaning supplies, personal items
> (toothpaste, vitamins, razor blades, etc), etc. That's less than $2.50
> / meal, including non food items. I don't have a breakdown between food
> vs. non food expenditures. Fresh meats, seafood & vegetables are an
> important part of our diet with minimal freezing / canned goods.
>
> We saw a big spike in groceries costs (up to nearly $120/wk) during the
> first quarter, but after an Aldi's moved in, we've been able to cut out
> about $20/wk for the past quarter buy picking up staples at Aldi's vs.
> Walmart & the local grocers (milk, eggs, select meats & vegetables,
> snacks items, etc). I was reluctant at first to pick up much at Aldi's,
> but we've been very pleased with their quality. Since their supply is
> limited, we now start the week's shopping at Aldi's & supplement by
> sales at local grocers and reducing our Walmart visits to only once /
> month where paper goods, personal items, cereals & some snack items tend
> to be the cheapest. We have a Super Walmart about eight miles away, but
> I've not found their quality / pricing to be much better than using the
> local Walmart / local grocers - not worth the trip for us.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 9:11 am
From: larry

Steve IA wrote:
> I'd like to buy a 5 lb. box of Boraxo powdered hand soap.
> I live in a small town and it's not available locally. It's 50
> miles from a big city and I don't want to drive from big-box
> to big-box looking. The shipping online is greater than the
> cost of the product.
> Does anybody know a place that stocks this: preferably,
> c. in a major chain with store in Des Moines, Iowa.
> a. without a membership
> b. the product I'm asking about, not a different you use.
>
>
> Thank you
> Steve
> 41N

we buy ours from a local janitorial supply

-larry/dallas

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TOPIC: Somali Muslims vs. Minnesota Employers
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 10:02 am
From: Billy

In article <ik4264talma6at40fhtnqfegdc7kodmc6a@4ax.com>,
wismel@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:12:03 -0700 (PDT), pres
> <afamreport@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.afamreport.com
> >
> >The AUTHOR sez: She and five of her Muslim co-workers were dismissed
> >last month from the Mission Foods tortilla factory in New Brighton for
> >refusing to wear a new company uniform -- a shirt and pants -- they
> >consider a violation of their Islamic beliefs..
> >
> >Click on: 'News Stories' at the top, scroll to Somali Muslims vs.
> >Minnesota Employers
>
> Only Uncle Suckemoff imports cancers cells! Your "gummint" is
> importing 138,000 legal immigrants each month. Most are third-world
> persons of color. Just consider the energy they consume.
>
> ted
>
> http://www.amren.com/ American Renaissance
>
> http://www.wvwnews.net/ Western Voices World News

Another oligarch's dupe directing attention away from the real problem
posed by the super rich: greed. If we fight among ourselves, no one
will notice while they pick our pockets. A person's skin melanin
content, their religion or, if they eat garlic has any bearing
on the contents of their heart but a zealous need for profits reduces
the rest of us to unimportant pawns. The squandering of the public
treasury on war to enrich the few and the raping of agricultural
lands to the same end is the real contemporary problem, not
someone's physical or spiritual features.
--

Billy
Bush and Pelosi Behind Bars
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg&ref=patrick.net
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0aEo59c7zU&feature=related

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jul 19 2008 10:10 am
From: hpope@lycos.com

On Jul 19, 9:32 am, "Speeders & Drunk Drivers are MURDERERS"
<xeton2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's a national scandal that the taxpayers are forced to give them
> anything!!! Illegals have no rights
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25727901/
>
> Illegal immigrants spurn needed benefits
> Fear of immigration agents means available resources go unclaimed
> updated 5:56 p.m. MT, Fri., July. 18, 2008
>
> Like many immigrants, Carmen Cruz of New York is having trouble making
> ends meet.
>
> "Everything is very expensive," Cruz said, speaking in her native
> Spanish. "How does one buy or eat anything? Everything is so expensive."
>
> Cruz did not know that she was eligible for food stamps -- $80 a month for
> herself or $200 or more for her family.
>
> At a time when the economic downturn is hitting immigrant communities
> especially hard, food stamps are the first line of defense against hunger
> for low-income families. But advocates and government officials have long
> known that legal immigrants are missing out on government benefit
> programs because of language barriers or ignorance.
>
> And if you are an illegal immigrant, there is a third, crippling barrier
> -- fear of arrest and deportation, especially in an anti-immigrant
> political climate that has fueled record numbers of arrests and
> deportations.
>
> Most illegal immigrants have no idea that a limited number of benefit
> programs don't exclude them, said Betsabé Pabón, director of the Food
> Stamps Program at the nonprofit Sunnyside Community Services in the New
> York borough of Queens.
>
> By law, illegal immigrants are ineligible for food stamps -- unless there
> is at least one U.S. citizen in their household, which describes all
> U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants.
>
> In many cases, illegal immigrants can also receive emergency medical
> treatment, short-term government disaster relief and immunization against
> communicable diseases. Their children can attend public schools.
>
> States may provide other benefits, such as driver's licenses and worker's
> compensation, In Kansas, for example, illegal immigrants can get tuition
> breaks at state universities and colleges.
>
> The attitude was summarized by Eugene Delgaudio, who represents Sterling
> Park, Va., on the Loudoun Board of County Supervisors in suburban
> Washington. He said his community's quality of life was at stake.
>
> "This is a cesspool," Delgaudio said. "People are coming from outside of
> this culture, and they are dumping their crap on the streets of our town,
> and our town is outraged that they don't get with the program."
>
> (snip)

Run them all out of America.

mitch

http://www.numbersusa.com/ NumbersUSA

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