Sunday, May 30, 2010

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 11 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

* These are the laws that will protect the Cyclists under the Revolution - 7
messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/43aee8b3326b0220?hl=en
* خطوات سحرية للميك أب - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7d5f9fee85fc9233?hl=en
* What are currently your best saving tips ? - 7 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a23335cb8985c73c?hl=en
* gift - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6e0423552251005a?hl=en
* America's ecological 9/11 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d165f49621b82752?hl=en
* help me - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/fd6d1731b9f77a4a?hl=en
* Wisdom can only come from a hammock - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c26c4c99fa2eb30f?hl=en
* Say no to Nazi sheep hunting for homos - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3572834aba6ae5d8?hl=en
* mini computers - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b4e77752fc9d847d?hl=en
* (www.sourcesoso.com) cheap wholesale air max shoes, nike shox shoe s, air
jordan shoes - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b1097547c4234ef1?hl=en
* any Fava bean recipes. they're a comin' - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/dae9f11f04ff6155?hl=en

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TOPIC: These are the laws that will protect the Cyclists under the Revolution
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/43aee8b3326b0220?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 12:07 am
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In article <6fidnRyojPfOcpzRnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Kevan Smith wrote:
>On 5/29/10 11:21 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
>and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote:
>> This the ultimate video for the revolution...
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw
>
>
>Too bad that song is so lame.
>
>Can the revolution have some better music, please?

The video appeared to me to be a good one for "the cause", and I found
the music to be reasonably-fitting and "reasonably agreeable".

The last part I said about the music is where I mean that more exciting
music is enjoyed by a smaller percentage of the video's viewers. I have
my idea as to what is good "speedy hyper happy bicycle-messenger music" -
and that music genre even got a name! Namely, that's Hi-NRG.

Sadly, a fair percentage of people, especially in Western Hemisphere,
think that one is only supposed to enjoy Hi-NRG if being a gay man.

Should the music in that video have been Hi-NRG? Or even "rock-like"
Hi-NRG along lines of "I Was Made For Loving You" by Kiss or 4
significant songs by ZZTOP? And one of those ZZTOP songs even came out on
a 12 inch vinyl "single" that said "disco" in one area of its jacket?

Or better still, should the music have been something more obscure than
the usual Hi-NRG by deviating from the "usual Hi-NRG" by lacking of
romantic/sexual theme that most disco/Hi-NRG songs have? Maybe something
closer to Golden Earring's "Twilight Zone"? (a Hi-NRG-ish rock song that
I suspect to have had influence unto my favorite Hi-NRG song, and that one
is "in-more-original-form" almost as rock-like as "I Was Made For Loving
You" by Kiss.

--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 12:18 am
From: Kevan Smith


On 5/30/10 2:07 AM, Don Klipstein wrote:
> In article<6fidnRyojPfOcpzRnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Kevan Smith wrote:
>> On 5/29/10 11:21 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
>> and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote:
>>> This the ultimate video for the revolution...
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw
>>
>>
>> Too bad that song is so lame.
>>
>> Can the revolution have some better music, please?
>
> The video appeared to me to be a good one for "the cause", and I found
> the music to be reasonably-fitting and "reasonably agreeable".
>
> The last part I said about the music is where I mean that more exciting
> music is enjoyed by a smaller percentage of the video's viewers. I have
> my idea as to what is good "speedy hyper happy bicycle-messenger music" -
> and that music genre even got a name! Namely, that's Hi-NRG.
>
> Sadly, a fair percentage of people, especially in Western Hemisphere,
> think that one is only supposed to enjoy Hi-NRG if being a gay man.
>
> Should the music in that video have been Hi-NRG? Or even "rock-like"
> Hi-NRG along lines of "I Was Made For Loving You" by Kiss or 4
> significant songs by ZZTOP? And one of those ZZTOP songs even came out on
> a 12 inch vinyl "single" that said "disco" in one area of its jacket?
>
> Or better still, should the music have been something more obscure than
> the usual Hi-NRG by deviating from the "usual Hi-NRG" by lacking of
> romantic/sexual theme that most disco/Hi-NRG songs have? Maybe something
> closer to Golden Earring's "Twilight Zone"? (a Hi-NRG-ish rock song that
> I suspect to have had influence unto my favorite Hi-NRG song, and that one
> is "in-more-original-form" almost as rock-like as "I Was Made For Loving
> You" by Kiss.
>


Wow, all the crap you mentioned is even worse than the song in the video?

If you're minister of music for the revolution, you should resign!


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 8:06 am
From: The Real Bev


On 05/30/10 00:18, Kevan Smith wrote:

> On 5/30/10 2:07 AM, Don Klipstein wrote:
>> In article<6fidnRyojPfOcpzRnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Kevan Smith wrote:
>>> On 5/29/10 11:21 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
>>> and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote:
>>>> This the ultimate video for the revolution...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw
>>>
> Wow, all the crap you mentioned is even worse than the song in the video?
>
> If you're minister of music for the revolution, you should resign!

I't hard to beat Creedence (and imitators) for skiing.

Most of the music that accompanies youtube action movies is crap.

--
Cheers, Bev
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for
anything, but they still bring a smile to your face
when you push them down a flight of stairs.


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 9:04 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


On May 30, 12:54 am, Kevan Smith <dr.goode...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/29/10 11:21 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
> and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote:
>
> > This the ultimate video for the revolution...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw
>
> Too bad that song is so lame.
>
> Can the revolution have some better music, please?
>
> Kevan

How about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBK9cFECLGQ


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 9:06 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


On May 30, 12:54 am, Kevan Smith <dr.goode...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/29/10 11:21 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
> and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote:
>
> > This the ultimate video for the revolution...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw
>
> Too bad that song is so lame.
>
> Can the revolution have some better music, please?
>
> Kevan

How about this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBK9cFECLGQ


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 1:22 pm
From: Kevan Smith


On 5/30/10 11:04 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote:

> How about this?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBK9cFECLGQ

Perfect!

And this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TfCfaDJM0k

Kevan


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 2:13 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


On May 30, 4:22 pm, Kevan Smith <dr.goode...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/30/10 11:04 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
> and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote:
>
> > How about this?
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBK9cFECLGQ
>
> Perfect!
>
> And this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TfCfaDJM0k
>
> Kevan

Thanks!

"Big cats, small cats
Some cats are fat cats
Those cats are bad cats
What we gonna do?"

Hey, anyone got the lyrics to '30 secs to Mars'?

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TOPIC: خطوات سحرية للميك أب
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/7d5f9fee85fc9233?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 12:34 am
From: ekr3d


7 خطوات سحرية لإخراج ميك أب على هذا الموقع
free-ekramy.blogspot.com/2010/05/7-steps-to-great-makeup.html

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TOPIC: What are currently your best saving tips ?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a23335cb8985c73c?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 1:01 am
From: Appelation Controlee


On Fri, 14 May 2010 06:11:26 -0700, "Jon Danniken"
<jonNOSPAMdanniken@yaNOSPAMhoo.com> wrote:

>Eric wrote:
>> What are currently your best saving tips you recommend and also
>> practice, relating
>> to how you make your money go much further than it used to, whether
>> it's for
>> food - weekly living expenses, home and financial investment, etc.
>
>You can get two meals of tuna from a can of tuna, but that same can of tuna
>can provide several dozen meals of cat.

I do recall reading a while back that tuna is deficient in some
vitamin - E, I think - that is essential to the wellbeing of cats. The
occasional meal would be OK, though.
--

Peter


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 1:07 am
From: Andy Burns


Appelation Controlee wrote:

> "Jon Danniken" <jonNOSPAMdanniken@yaNOSPAMhoo.com> wrote:
>
>> You can get two meals of tuna from a can of tuna, but that same can of tuna
>> can provide several dozen meals of cat.
>
> I do recall reading a while back that tuna is deficient in some
> vitamin - E, I think - that is essential to the wellbeing of cats. The
> occasional meal would be OK, though.

I don't think Jon was suggesting tuna as a meal *for* cats, rather as a
bait to catch cats for ingredients in meals!


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 1:22 am
From: Appelation Controlee


On Sun, 30 May 2010 09:07:22 +0100, Andy Burns
<usenet.aug2009@adslpipe.co.uk> wrote:

>Appelation Controlee wrote:
>
>> "Jon Danniken" <jonNOSPAMdanniken@yaNOSPAMhoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You can get two meals of tuna from a can of tuna, but that same can of tuna
>>> can provide several dozen meals of cat.
>>
>> I do recall reading a while back that tuna is deficient in some
>> vitamin - E, I think - that is essential to the wellbeing of cats. The
>> occasional meal would be OK, though.
>
>I don't think Jon was suggesting tuna as a meal *for* cats, rather as a
>bait to catch cats for ingredients in meals!

ROFL! Speed reading doesn't necessarily include comprehension. ;-)
--

Peter


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 2:04 am
From: Ron


On May 13, 9:44 pm, Eric <pag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> What are currently your best saving tips you recommend and also
> practice, relating
> to how you make your money go much further than it used to, whether
> it's for
> food - weekly living expenses, home and financial investment, etc.

I'm not gonna read the 230+ thread on this subject, but since I live
alone, I keep my hot water heater turned off up until 30 minutes
before I need to take a shower.

Also, I live in FL, and my pipes are in the attic.

During the summer, I don't even have to use the HW heater, because I
get hot water from the pipes being in the attic.


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 2:23 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Appelation Controlee wrote
> Jon Danniken <jonNOSPAMdanniken@yaNOSPAMhoo.com> wrote
>> Eric wrote:

>>> What are currently your best saving tips you recommend and also practice,
>>> relating to how you make your money go much further than it used to, whether
>>> it's for food - weekly living expenses, home and financial investment, etc.

>> You can get two meals of tuna from a can of tuna, but that
>> same can of tuna can provide several dozen meals of cat.

> I do recall reading a while back that tuna is deficient in some
> vitamin - E, I think - that is essential to the wellbeing of cats.
> The occasional meal would be OK, though.

Doesnt matter if you plan to eat the cat soon after attracting it with the tuna, stupid.


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 6:28 am
From: Appelation Controlee


On Sun, 30 May 2010 19:23:04 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Appelation Controlee wrote
>> Jon Danniken <jonNOSPAMdanniken@yaNOSPAMhoo.com> wrote
>>> Eric wrote:
>
>>>> What are currently your best saving tips you recommend and also practice,
>>>> relating to how you make your money go much further than it used to, whether
>>>> it's for food - weekly living expenses, home and financial investment, etc.
>
>>> You can get two meals of tuna from a can of tuna, but that
>>> same can of tuna can provide several dozen meals of cat.
>
>> I do recall reading a while back that tuna is deficient in some
>> vitamin - E, I think - that is essential to the wellbeing of cats.
>> The occasional meal would be OK, though.
>
>Doesnt matter if you plan to eat the cat soon after attracting it with the tuna, stupid.
>

FU2


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 8:20 am
From: The Real Bev


On 05/30/10 01:01, Appelation Controlee wrote:

> <jonNOSPAMdanniken@yaNOSPAMhoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Eric wrote:
>>> What are currently your best saving tips you recommend and also
>>> practice, relating to how you make your money go much further than it
>>> used to, whether it's for food - weekly living expenses, home and
>>> financial investment, etc.
>>
>> You can get two meals of tuna from a can of tuna, but that same can of
>> tuna can provide several dozen meals of cat.
>
> I do recall reading a while back that tuna is deficient in some vitamin - E,
> I think - that is essential to the wellbeing of cats. The occasional meal
> would be OK, though.

Daughter fills the at-will auto-feeders (big plastic bottles up-ended into
dish-like things) with Kirkland cat food, which the dog eats too. Her oldest
cat lived to be 18, so it's gotta be doing something right. I was amazed that
the dachshund nibbles every once in a while just like the cats -- I had thought
that dogs gobbled every bit of available food.

The dog is a near vegetarian, although she likes cooked meat too. Had we not
shared our food with her (and she doesn't grab, she nibbles politely) she might
have believed that the food-god always made sure there was enough.

--
Cheers, Bev
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Some people are like Slinkies... Not really good for
anything, but they still bring a smile to your face
when you push them down a flight of stairs.

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TOPIC: gift
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6e0423552251005a?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 3:42 am
From: ekr3d


Do you want the safety of the computer Take this gift

free-ekramy.blogspot.com/2010/05/advanced-systemcare-free-331.html
Ekramy


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 8:49 am
From: "The Henchman"


"ekr3d" <ronyekr@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8c782a4b-0179-4a84-ae6a-40eddf1c3260@e34g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> Do you want the safety of the computer Take this gift
>
> free-ekramy.blogspot.com/2010/05/advanced-systemcare-free-331.html
> Ekramy

Ok thaNK YOU FOR THE GIFT. iT IS NISE!!!11!1


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TOPIC: America's ecological 9/11
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d165f49621b82752?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 4:15 am
From: and Sniff


On Sat, 29 May 2010 20:15:11 -0700 (PDT), a real cheapskate <hallerb@aol.com>
wrote:

>On May 29, 6:37?pm, brad herschel <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On May 29, 2:37?pm, brad herschel <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm calling this America's ecological 9/11 ? ? 32 minutes ago ? ? This
>> > disaster could end up being worse than Chernobyl and 9/11 combined.
>> > Unless they plug that leak within the next month it will turn the Gulf
>> > of Mexico into a dead zone for the next 100 years.
>>
>> > I don't think Americans realize how devastating this disaster is. The
>> > time has come to nationalize BP and to investigate the leadership of
>> > the company and if they are guilty of negligence they should be handed
>> > Madoff-like jail sentences.
>>
>> > Keep BP alive until every cent required to recify the damage has been
>> > taken from it's hide.
>>
>> > brad
>>
>> FYI
>
>BP is the massey energy of oil.....
>
>BOTH companies had far higher than other accident and citation rates
>than other companies.
>
>BP near 800 major deficency citations Exxon mobile ONE sunocy 8.
>
>BP like massey just paid the fines as a cost of doing business.
>
>EASY SOLUTION:)
>
>when any company gets higher than industry average fines / citations.
>
>Fines double then triple then quadruple.
>
>so comanies cant afford to be poor safety operators.
>
>The other issue BP is on the hook to pay all clean up costs.
>
>But what of the colateral damage all the fishermen, resturants bars
>amusement parks hotels that depend on tourism to survive.
>
>None of these people did anything wrong but will lkely go out of
>business, unable to pay bills.
>
>now the oil is collecting in the gulf, what happens when a hurricane
>comes along and spreads the oil around florida and up the east coast
>
>I believe this leak will push our economy not just back into recession
>but depression.
>
>imagine wiping out tourism and so much more in not only the gulf and
>florida but all the way up the east coast:(
>
>BP isnt big enough to cover the colateral damage they will go
>bankrupt.

Probably not. They did a good job of padding the pockets of all politicians who
are involved with energy decisions. Especially those to whom they now must
answer. Care to guess the outcome of an investigation done by those who received
massive lobby money?

Expect the outcome to be much like the Exxon Valdez incident. A whole lot of PR
about how much they care, a little cleanup and then a complete walk away from
the incident, leaving those affected to deal with it. They are probably already
printing the checks and contracts for fisherman, who will take the present value
of money vs. the loss of their careers. Sad.

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TOPIC: help me
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/fd6d1731b9f77a4a?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 7:47 am
From: Charmin


On May 29, 11:16 am, ekr3d <rony...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I Ekramy from Egypt and I think that help me to improve my sites in
> order to win through to increase my income and improve my level of
> Financial.
> Thank you very much
>
Best advice I can give you is to post over on the related business
sites and not this newsgroup. All it does is irritate people and not
drive any traffic to your sites. Also, keep working on improving your
English.

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TOPIC: Wisdom can only come from a hammock
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 10:07 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


Think of Buddha sitting under a tree... His philosophy was much better
than that of Jesus' suffering, but he was sitting in that awkward
position. Enter the Wise Tibetan Monkey. He sets up a hammock hanging
from the trees and voila! The Banana Revolution!

http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/EnlargeProduct.asp?SKU=10525586&ZMPHT=380/189710525586P.JPG

Cool, laid back, back to nature, energy efficient... Have you noticed
that after RIDING A BIKE the hammock is the most efficient way to save
energy?

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiiLDiGfxGZgHHhbWTxnGgwMLK6pED095zGBcRQj_r74s_x2n5YaMv0rNxLOu88vQDO-bZJi2YpP4b62aFUENJHPaCJe6PItTCL1sb5HV2yylqE_pQOWW_THSf8_bm9-xwcTGRYQbZkgeE/s400/Budha_Banana_BIG.jpg

Perhaps planting a banana tree you only have to reach out and, with
Epicurean delight, enjoy an organic banana. Nothing like "Chiquita,"
which is produced with cheap labor, and even pesticides and GMO's.

Think about and you may also find yourself in the REVOLUTION.


-----------------------------------------------------------

THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS

"Here I am... hanging from the trees"

http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE (the easy way)

http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE (the hard way)

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TOPIC: Say no to Nazi sheep hunting for homos
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3572834aba6ae5d8?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 2:02 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

***

Just say NO to sheep hunting for homos...

http://www.johnsmilitaryhistory.com/sheep.gif


Beware of Nazi homo hunters!

http://www.threadwatch.org/images/skinhead.gif


----------------------------------------------------------------

THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS

"Stand for all or be eaten all"

http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 6:28 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In <839c0890-a120-448c-83f9-c9435102f916@e6g2000vbm.googlegroups.com>,
TibetanMonkey wrotye in part:

>Just say NO to sheep hunting for homos...
>
>http://www.johnsmilitaryhistory.com/sheep.gif

That one appeared to me to just say no to sheep.

>Beware of Nazi homo hunters!
>
>http://www.threadwatch.org/images/skinhead.gif

That one just apeared to me to depict a humorously $#!+-for-brains
Nazi.

What do these have to do with hunting one of the many specific groups
that Nazis and bonehead skinheads hunted down and victimized?

--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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TOPIC: mini computers
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 2:08 pm
From: Gordon


Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote in
news:JnzLn.26125$h57.16722@newsfe22.iad:

> I've been looking for something like this in the $150-$250 range
> for
> a while - tiny PC that can be wall mounted:
>
> http://shop.revonate.com/Refurbished_Acer_Aspire_Revo_AR1600_U910_p/L-P
> T.SCL05.004.htm
>
>
> I would pay an extra $35-$40 for one that has just enough space to
> add an internal DVD burner, so that I could archive music and videos.
> Then I'd pay another $40 on top of that for one that had the power of
> one of those AMD energy saving dual core Athlon II's.
>
> Probably 60% of the time on this would be spent listening to music
> or
> watching videos, 20% web browsing, and the other 20% a mix of casual
> gaming, writing and perhaps VOIP.
>
> Can anyone clue me in on something that would at the very least
> allow
> for the DVD burner, or is this about the best that I'm going to find?
>
> Thanks!

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 4:51 pm
From: VFW


do you have to shell that outer coat if they are younguns?
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Today's topics:

* These are the laws that will protect the Cyclists under the Revolution - 3
messages, 3 authors
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* What are currently your best saving tips ? - 2 messages, 1 author
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* America's ecological 9/11 - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: These are the laws that will protect the Cyclists under the Revolution
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:21 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"


This the ultimate video for the revolution...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:54 pm
From: Kevan Smith


On 5/29/10 11:21 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote:
> This the ultimate video for the revolution...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw


Too bad that song is so lame.

Can the revolution have some better music, please?

Kevan


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, May 30 2010 12:07 am
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In article <6fidnRyojPfOcpzRnZ2dnUVZ_gCdnZ2d@giganews.com>, Kevan Smith wrote:
>On 5/29/10 11:21 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana
>and Chief of Quixotic Enterprises wrote:
>> This the ultimate video for the revolution...
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx364Lm53Aw
>
>
>Too bad that song is so lame.
>
>Can the revolution have some better music, please?

The video appeared to me to be a good one for "the cause", and I found
the music to be reasonably-fitting and "reasonably agreeable".

The last part I said about the music is where I mean that more exciting
music is enjoyed by a smaller percentage of the video's viewers. I have
my idea as to what is good "speedy hyper happy bicycle-messenger music" -
and that music genre even got a name! Namely, that's Hi-NRG.

Sadly, a fair percentage of people, especially in Western Hemisphere,
think that one is only supposed to enjoy Hi-NRG if being a gay man.

Should the music in that video have been Hi-NRG? Or even "rock-like"
Hi-NRG along lines of "I Was Made For Loving You" by Kiss or 4
significant songs by ZZTOP? And one of those ZZTOP songs even came out on
a 12 inch vinyl "single" that said "disco" in one area of its jacket?

Or better still, should the music have been something more obscure than
the usual Hi-NRG by deviating from the "usual Hi-NRG" by lacking of
romantic/sexual theme that most disco/Hi-NRG songs have? Maybe something
closer to Golden Earring's "Twilight Zone"? (a Hi-NRG-ish rock song that
I suspect to have had influence unto my favorite Hi-NRG song, and that one
is "in-more-original-form" almost as rock-like as "I Was Made For Loving
You" by Kiss.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:31 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Smitty Two wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> Smitty Two wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> In fact the majority pay off their credit cards in full every month.

>>>> Cite?

>>> http://www.bosfed.org/economic/neer/neer2000/neer400b.pdf

>>> Bottom left hand corner of page 20

>> and
>> http://www.bcsalliance.com/creditcard_profits.html

> Thanks, that's surprising.

Yes, it surprises most when they hear about it.

> First reference is 10 years old,

But it that had changed, there would have been lots of howling about that change.

> and I didn't see a date on the second one, but that's not
> the picture commonly painted of American's cc habits.

Yes, but particularly in a group like msfl, its something most of us do.

Not always tho, I personally built my own house from scratch myself,
and chose to fund it entirely with borrowed money, basically because
I was earning a better rate on the money I had in the stock market
than I was paying for borrowed money in the very early 70s and
was interested to see if it could be done. So I started using a credit
card to buy the first of the materials, and then got a loan on the
partially built house for the next lot of materials etc and did it that
way. The land came from the govt in a no deposit land purchase
scheme. I never did pay off the land early, because the interest
rate charged was so derisory, and I could earn a lot better than
that on it in the stock market so continued to do that after the
house was finished.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:36 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


a real cheapskate wrote
> Smitty Two <prestwh...@earthlink.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Smitty Two wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed....@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>>> In fact the majority pay off their credit cards in full every month.

>>>>> Cite?

>>>> http://www.bosfed.org/economic/neer/neer2000/neer400b.pdf

>>>> Bottom left hand corner of page 20

There was an even better one around, but its no longer on the web and
I was silly enough to not save it on my system while it was still available.

>>> and
>>> http://www.bcsalliance.com/creditcard_profits.html

>> Thanks, that's surprising. First reference is 10 years old,
>> and I didn't see a date on the second one, but that's not
>> the picture commonly painted of American's cc habits.

> yeah and 13% of all US mortages are at least a month
> behind in payments, thats a all time historical high

Not surprising given that the unemployment rate is about 10% and
about 20% would like a full time job and dont currently have one.

Even if they are all behind, and not all of them are, that still leaves a majority doing fine repayment wise.

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Date: Sat, May 29 2010 9:45 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


a real cheapskate wrote
> brad herschel <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote
>> brad herschel <bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote

>> I'm calling this America's ecological 9/11 ? ? 32 minutes ago ? ?
>> This disaster could end up being worse than Chernobyl and 9/11
>> combined. Unless they plug that leak within the next month it will
>> turn the Gulf of Mexico into a dead zone for the next 100 years.

>> I don't think Americans realize how devastating this disaster is.
>> The time has come to nationalize BP and to investigate the
>> leadership of the company and if they are guilty of negligence they
>> should be handed Madoff-like jail sentences.

>> Keep BP alive until every cent required to recify
>> the damage has been taken from it's hide.

> BP is the massey energy of oil.....

> BOTH companies had far higher than other
> accident and citation rates than other companies.

In the case of BP, thats mostly because they do more
exploration in the Gulf etc than other companys too.

> BP near 800 major deficency citations Exxon mobile ONE sunocy 8.

See above.

> BP like massey just paid the fines as a cost of doing business.

> EASY SOLUTION:)

> when any company gets higher than industry average fines / citations.

> Fines double then triple then quadruple.

> so comanies cant afford to be poor safety operators.

They also couldnt afford to dominate exploration either.

> The other issue BP is on the hook to pay all clean up costs.

> But what of the colateral damage all the fishermen, resturants
> bars amusement parks hotels that depend on tourism to survive.

Thats compensated by the massive cash flow thru the recovery and cleanup operations.

> None of these people did anything wrong but will
> lkely go out of business, unable to pay bills.

I bet that doesnt happen much except to those involved in the fishing industry.

And I bet that effect doesnt last long, just like it didnt with the Exxon Valdiz either.

> now the oil is collecting in the gulf, what happens when a hurricane
> comes along and spreads the oil around florida and up the east coast

Nothing much. Once the well is capped, and that will happen
sometime, once it gets onto the beaches, it doesnt move
from there without human intervention, even with a hurricane.

> I believe this leak will push our economy not just back into recession but depression.

Bet it doesnt. In fact all the resources in the cleanup operation could
well provide a lot more employment than the fishing industry did.

> imagine wiping out tourism and so much more in not only
> the gulf and florida but all the way up the east coast:(

That wont happen, just like it didnt with the Exxon Valdiz either.

And it cant spread all the way up the east coast either.

> BP isnt big enough to cover the colateral damage they will go bankrupt.

Depends on their insurance. It may well be one hell of a problem for the insurance industry.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 29 2010 11:28 pm
From: The Real Bev


On 05/29/10 22:06, Derald wrote:

> gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>
>>
>>Derald also forgot that if he expects an answer to email he sends, he
>>needs to provide a valid email address.
> ...sheesh! what a concept.... LOL

FWIW, gmail does a fine job of eliminating spam. Only a few (a couple a week,
maybe) ever get through.

Maybe Dennis (evil) got religion. I hear it's going around...

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Cheers, Bev
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