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TOPIC: Corporation To Run For Public Office!
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Tues, Feb 2 2010 9:01 pm
From: "Jomo"
krw wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:42:24 +1100, "Jomo" <j@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> krw wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 06:40:10 -0800, "Bill"
>>> <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If a corporation is a "person", then it should also be able to get
>>>> a birth certificate, passport, and register to vote!
>>
>>> A corporation certainly does have a "birth certificate".''
>>
>> Not one that is any use to get to vote with.
>
> ...and?
That was what was being discussed, corps getting to vote.
>>>> (Someone with a corporation, register the corporation to vote, then
>>>> let's see the Supreme Court say they can't do that because a
>>>> corporation is NOT a person!)
>>>
>>> It is by law person. It can be sued in both criminal and civil
>>> court.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 8:53 am
From: "Mike Hunter"
The same Court that ruled corporations were "persons," who can be sued in
both criminal and civil court, has now ruled they MUST therefore have the
freedom of political speech guaranteed in the Constitution to every
American.
IF the people do not agree corporations are people than they must amend the
Constitution. IF that happens Corporations will no longer BE "persons," who
can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
Can you imagine the shark lawyers, that control the Senate, ever allowing
that amendment to ever be introduced let alone be passed by the Congress?
"krw" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
news:vquhm5l5b3khqomhdnh8dlbo0rpbueoj48@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:42:24 +1100, "Jomo" <j@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>>krw wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 06:40:10 -0800, "Bill"
>>> <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If a corporation is a "person", then it should also be able to get a
>>>> birth certificate, passport, and register to vote!
>>
>>> A corporation certainly does have a "birth certificate".''
>>
>>Not one that is any use to get to vote with.
>
> ...and?
>
>>>> (Someone with a corporation, register the corporation to vote, then
>>>> let's see the Supreme Court say they can't do that because a
>>>> corporation is NOT a person!)
>>>
>>> It is by law person. It can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
>>
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 10:10 am
From: "Rod Speed"
Mike Hunter wrote:
> The same Court that ruled corporations were "persons," who can be sued in both criminal and civil court, has now ruled
> they MUST therefore have the freedom of political speech guaranteed in the Constitution to every American.
There is no therefore, the most recent ruling has nothing to do with that earlier one.
It is in fact based on the NO LAW bit of the First.
> IF the people do not agree corporations are people than they must
> amend the Constitution. IF that happens Corporations will no longer
> BE "persons," who can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
That is wrong too. There is for example no reason why
the constitution could not be explicitly amended to allow
corps to be sued in both criminal and civil courts.
> Can you imagine the shark lawyers, that control the Senate, ever allowing that amendment to ever be introduced let
> alone be passed by the Congress?
It isnt necessarily up to the Senate.
> "krw" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
> news:vquhm5l5b3khqomhdnh8dlbo0rpbueoj48@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:42:24 +1100, "Jomo" <j@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> krw wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 06:40:10 -0800, "Bill"
>>>> <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If a corporation is a "person", then it should also be able to
>>>>> get a birth certificate, passport, and register to vote!
>>>
>>>> A corporation certainly does have a "birth certificate".''
>>>
>>> Not one that is any use to get to vote with.
>>
>> ...and?
>>
>>>>> (Someone with a corporation, register the corporation to vote,
>>>>> then let's see the Supreme Court say they can't do that because a
>>>>> corporation is NOT a person!)
>>>>
>>>> It is by law person. It can be sued in both criminal and civil
>>>> court.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 10:34 am
From: "Mike Hunter"
You are entitled to you own opinion, not matter how convoluted it may be
;)
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7stsq1F8hsU1@mid.individual.net...
> Mike Hunter wrote:
>
>> The same Court that ruled corporations were "persons," who can be sued in
>> both criminal and civil court, has now ruled they MUST therefore have the
>> freedom of political speech guaranteed in the Constitution to every
>> American.
>
> There is no therefore, the most recent ruling has nothing to do with that
> earlier one.
>
> It is in fact based on the NO LAW bit of the First.
>
>> IF the people do not agree corporations are people than they must
>> amend the Constitution. IF that happens Corporations will no longer
>> BE "persons," who can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
>
> That is wrong too. There is for example no reason why
> the constitution could not be explicitly amended to allow
> corps to be sued in both criminal and civil courts.
>
>> Can you imagine the shark lawyers, that control the Senate, ever allowing
>> that amendment to ever be introduced let alone be passed by the Congress?
>
> It isnt necessarily up to the Senate.
>
>
>> "krw" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
>> news:vquhm5l5b3khqomhdnh8dlbo0rpbueoj48@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:42:24 +1100, "Jomo" <j@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> krw wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 06:40:10 -0800, "Bill"
>>>>> <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If a corporation is a "person", then it should also be able to
>>>>>> get a birth certificate, passport, and register to vote!
>>>>
>>>>> A corporation certainly does have a "birth certificate".''
>>>>
>>>> Not one that is any use to get to vote with.
>>>
>>> ...and?
>>>
>>>>>> (Someone with a corporation, register the corporation to vote,
>>>>>> then let's see the Supreme Court say they can't do that because a
>>>>>> corporation is NOT a person!)
>>>>>
>>>>> It is by law person. It can be sued in both criminal and civil
>>>>> court.
>
>
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 12:30 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Mike Hunter wrote
> You are entitled to you own opinion,
Taint my opinion, its the supremes' opinion.
> not matter how convoluted it may be ;)
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7stsq1F8hsU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>
>>> The same Court that ruled corporations were "persons," who can be
>>> sued in both criminal and civil court, has now ruled they MUST
>>> therefore have the freedom of political speech guaranteed in the
>>> Constitution to every American.
>>
>> There is no therefore, the most recent ruling has nothing to do with
>> that earlier one.
>>
>> It is in fact based on the NO LAW bit of the First.
>>
>>> IF the people do not agree corporations are people than they must
>>> amend the Constitution. IF that happens Corporations will no longer
>>> BE "persons," who can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
>>
>> That is wrong too. There is for example no reason why
>> the constitution could not be explicitly amended to allow
>> corps to be sued in both criminal and civil courts.
>>
>>> Can you imagine the shark lawyers, that control the Senate, ever
>>> allowing that amendment to ever be introduced let alone be passed
>>> by the Congress?
>>
>> It isnt necessarily up to the Senate.
>>
>>
>>> "krw" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in message
>>> news:vquhm5l5b3khqomhdnh8dlbo0rpbueoj48@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 10:42:24 +1100, "Jomo" <j@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> krw wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Feb 2010 06:40:10 -0800, "Bill"
>>>>>> <billnomailnospamx@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a corporation is a "person", then it should also be able to
>>>>>>> get a birth certificate, passport, and register to vote!
>>>>>
>>>>>> A corporation certainly does have a "birth certificate".''
>>>>>
>>>>> Not one that is any use to get to vote with.
>>>>
>>>> ...and?
>>>>
>>>>>>> (Someone with a corporation, register the corporation to vote,
>>>>>>> then let's see the Supreme Court say they can't do that because
>>>>>>> a corporation is NOT a person!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is by law person. It can be sued in both criminal and civil
>>>>>> court.
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 3:39 pm
From: krw
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 11:53:00 -0500, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2@lycos,com>
wrote:
>The same Court that ruled corporations were "persons," who can be sued in
>both criminal and civil court, has now ruled they MUST therefore have the
>freedom of political speech guaranteed in the Constitution to every
>American.
>
>
>IF the people do not agree corporations are people than they must amend the
>Constitution. IF that happens Corporations will no longer BE "persons," who
>can be sued in both criminal and civil court.
Not to mention being liable for taxes.
>Can you imagine the shark lawyers, that control the Senate, ever allowing
>that amendment to ever be introduced let alone be passed by the Congress?
Can you imagine the states ratifying such?
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 1:13 am
From: delboy
On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-
the-jungle <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She (Sarah Palin) only
> needs to lead the sheep...
>
>
I think George W. Bush has already proved that point!
DC
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 7:23 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
On Feb 3, 4:13 am, delboy <del.copel...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She (Sarah Palin) only
> > needs to lead the sheep...
>
> I think George W. Bush has already proved that point!
>
> DC
Yep, this lady has all the qualities of a good shepherd. Now all she
needs is a sheep dog... and some wolves to scare them.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 7:42 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
On Feb 3, 9:45 am, Sebastian <mezna...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Of course the big companies will do this whether the doubt is well-
> founded or not. So the mere act of them doing it actually tells us
> very little about what is really happening.
>
> But one thing has to be considered: We know for a fact that global
> warming has been happening. The temperatures have gone up in a
> relatively rapid fashion. What we do not know for a fact is that the
> cause of it is human activity. There are many natural processes
> affecting the global temperatures. Atmosphere is big, coupled with
> many other factors (like oceans and land). This makes it very
> complicated to understand. So we do not even know the governing
> equation(s) of the atmospheric changes let alone their solutions.
> Numerical models inevitably do not take certain factors into account
> (and in some cases important ones, like water vapour - see sayhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/29/water-vapour-climat...).
> These problems are significant and so currently we do not actually
> know for a fact what is going on.
Once you "understand" it (if you ever can something so complex) it'll
be too late. It's simpler to allow people like me to ride a bike as
means of prevention, than to allow the SUVs to keep spewing CO2.
OK, let's apply some science to it...
(I quote)
How much carbon dioxide does a typical SUV release into the
atmosphere, and how many trees does it take to absorb all that CO2?
The answer is anybody's guess, but here's my take on it:
One gallon of gasoline weighs about 8 lbs. Of that, about 7 lbs. is
carbon (the rest is hydrogen). If a typical SUV gets 15 mpg on the
highway and is driven 15,000 miles a year, it will burn 1,000 gallons
of gas. That puts about 7,000 lbs. of carbon into the atmosphere
(combined with oxygen as CO2).
A mature tree 40 to 50 feet high weighs around 10,000 lbs. Of that, at
least 7,000 lbs. is organic carbon compounds (the exact amount will
vary depending on the species and the density of the wood). To reach
this size, most trees need 30 to 40 years of growing time. This too
will vary depending on the species of tree, its geographical location,
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a lot faster than trees in northern climates.
Assuming these estimates are reasonably accurate, one mature tree
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http://www.aa1car.com/library/2001/cm50120.htm
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 8:23 am
From: "Bill Sornson"
delboy wrote:
> On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey
> showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in- the-jungle
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She
>> (Sarah Palin) only needs to lead the sheep...
>>
>>
> I think George W. Bush has already proved that point!
http://vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 1:55 pm
From: jeff
Bill Sornson wrote:
> delboy wrote:
>> On 3 Feb, 04:01, TheTibetanMonkey
>> showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in- the-jungle
>> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Hi IQ is not required for high office. It may be a hindrance. She
>>> (Sarah Palin) only needs to lead the sheep...
>>>
>>>
>> I think George W. Bush has already proved that point!
>
> http://vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm
>
Goes to show what a decade or so of coke and booze will do. By the
time he was president he must have killed off most of his brain. There's
little evidence that he gave anything he did much thought.
Pretty much all seat of the pants and kicking it down the road when
the ideology failed.
Jeff
>
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From: Scott in SoCal
Last time on misc.consumers, zeez <blinkingblythe01@gmail.com> said:
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 10:12 am
From: A VFW
In article <036jm5t81ut349muf1490n3lf0l1pvtp3a@4ax.com>,
Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Last time on misc.consumers, zeez <blinkingblythe01@gmail.com> said:
>
> >http://con.st/10001417
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0xknsduP-c
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Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 8:35 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
On Feb 3, 10:17 am, "Bob T." <b...@synapse-cs.com> wrote:
> > Hiding anti-semitism behind parody is not commendable and I strongly
> > believe such language should be reconsidered.
>
> Mocking anti-semitism through parody, on the other hand, is
> commendable.
>
> You're not big on humor, parody and/or irony, are you Brock?
He's not, like his god, and this was observed by Mark Twain.
Anyway I like to tease the Jews a little bit into realizing their
HOLOCAUST is by no means the only one. There's been many more out
there, including those produced by hunger and poverty. Actually WE ARE
ALL MARCHING TO A HOLOCAUST, but we put profits ahead or reason, and
the few people who dare to do something --like riding a bike-- are
treated like Jews were under the Nazi regime. Yes, they are ignored,
harassed and also killed by reckless drivers.
I've taken refuge in my cage --as wise Tibetan Monkey that I am-- but
there's a lonesome rider out there that I haven't seen in a while, and
I hope he's persistent and alive: It's an orthodox Jew who rides his
bike in the middle of the jungle. This road makes riding a bike a
suicidal mission. (The road is Harding Ave, somewhere around the
Rowing Club.)
WE ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST; WE ARE TREATED AS FRIENDS OF OSAMA BIN
LADEN BY DARING TO CHALLENGE THE CAPITALIST MACHINE.
http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 3 2010 9:24 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle
On Feb 3, 11:56 am, Brock Organ <brockor…@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Trance Gemini <trancegemi…@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Its not a commendable concept to articulate:
>
> >> "Tell you what: IT'S THE JEWS WHO COOKED UP THE DATA TO CONTROL US."
>
> > That was the Parody to demonstrate the absurdity of these racist beliefs.
>
> Not from one who made clear they like "to tease the Jews a little bit"
> regarding the holocaust.
>
> This anti-semitism is not commendable.
>
> Regards,
>
> Brock
Yes, I like to tease people who dwell on some fact or fiction in the
distant past and are oblivious to reality. Real torture going on now,
real wiping out of hundreds of species, real starvation, real waste
going now, real wars based on lies going now, real discrimination
against cyclists, etc, etc, etc.
But you must understand that we monkeys are teasers by nature. ;)
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