Friday, April 29, 2011

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 12 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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* Part time home based PPC Form Filling Jobs - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f3f0f1f9bc225d64?hl=en
* If every roof was a solar panel - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/dd0a5af9cc4337f6?hl=en
* free shipping PAYPAL payment wholesale brand WATCH online (ROLEX,OMEGA,
CHANEL,LV,CARTIER,IWC,GUCCI,RADO AND SO ON) http://www.24hours-online.com/ - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/02435fa5c6885c2d?hl=en
* Does Wisdom give you a Belly? - 11 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f8f4b5e4969f0875?hl=en
* Active Directory Support Tools - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9f850a3843e1de2b?hl=en
* hai - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/791852bb72396293?hl=en
* How can we stop cars from blocking the pedestrian x-ing? - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4517385069d26929?hl=en
* watch hollywood actress lipkiss videos and party images 1st time on net. - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1ce1a4b70cf346b6?hl=en
* Speed Cameras + Red Light Cameras = Safer Roads (conspiracy theory) - 3
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/05dcd9859c28adf1?hl=en
* Anyone having problems with Google Voice this morning? - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/bac00c607fff5ef5?hl=en
* Miss Manners on wrong reasons to decline wedding invitations - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/24a977f413acb4a7?hl=en
* spare parts. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5f83e5161fa8b5ca?hl=en

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 11:24 pm
From: grdvijey


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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 12:12 am
From: "Rod Speed"


Demopublica wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> me@privacy.net wrote
>>>>> gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote

>>>>>> Whe have a place, at Yucca Mountain. However,
>>>>>> a bunch of scaremongers caused it to be shut down.

>>>>> I say we put it in YOUR backyard

>>>> Makes a lot more sense to use Yucca Mountain.

>>> You're not afraid of a little harmless nuclear waste, are you?

>> I dont have anything like Yucca Mountain in my backyard, fool.

> Yes. Our Sun is a nuclear fusion reaction. and 93 Million
> miles away seems about right to store said wastes.

Too much risk of the rocket getting them there going bang before it leaves the earth.

> IMHO

Why have you got horrible opinions ?


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 8:31 pm
From: Demopublica


In article
<2214c177-e6b5-4c8a-ae40-c0aefd837a84@i39g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
marco polo <markphd21@gmail.com> wrote:

> .
> in a perfect world: every roof would be a solar panel,
> and there wouldn't be any abortions,
> but we don't live in a perfect world.
>
> I think the bottom line is cost.
> Solar isn't cheap enough yet. Installation cost,
> and future maintenance/replacement.
> It will be cost effective sometime in the future,
> but it may be decades.
>
> marc

Well, that's why we have "Pioneers" and faith.
--
Karma, What a concept!

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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 3:18 am
From: Harry Brogan


On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:56:11 -0600, bosco <boscopelone@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On 2011-04-28 14:45:16 -0600, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the
>Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> said:
>
>> http://practicalcyclist.blogspot.com/2008/06/einstein-and-bicycles.html
>
>Well being farther down the line than you are, I think you have a
>couple of things going on. Your appetite has not decreased, though your
>daily calorie output has. You are slowly losing muscle mass, so there
>is less muscle to burn those carbs up without actively doing something.
>ymmv of course.
>
>ben


Why do you waste your time responding to this TROLL? It's pieces of
shit like these that have destroyed A.R.B.R. among other groups.
TRASH such as this cannot survive on the moderated forums where most
of the DECENT people have moved.


== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 6:36 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 29, 1:56 am, bosco <boscopel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2011-04-28 14:45:16 -0600, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the
> Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> said:
>
> >http://practicalcyclist.blogspot.com/2008/06/einstein-and-bicycles.html
>
> Well being farther down the line than you are, I think you have a
> couple of things going on. Your appetite has not decreased, though your
> daily calorie output has. You are slowly losing muscle mass, so there
> is less muscle to burn those carbs up without actively doing something.
> ymmv of course.

Well, I guess only a hard workout will work. There's a sand trail
further down that I need to do and that's hardcore --but hot.

Either that or the spinning bike.

== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 6:38 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 29, 6:18 am, Harry Brogan <hbroga...@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com>
wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:56:11 -0600, bosco <boscopel...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On 2011-04-28 14:45:16 -0600, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the
> >Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> said:
>
> >>http://practicalcyclist.blogspot.com/2008/06/einstein-and-bicycles.html
>
> >Well being farther down the line than you are, I think you have a
> >couple of things going on. Your appetite has not decreased, though your
> >daily calorie output has. You are slowly losing muscle mass, so there
> >is less muscle to burn those carbs up without actively doing something.
> >ymmv of course.
>
> >ben
>
> Why do you waste your time responding to this TROLL?  It's pieces of
> shit like these that have destroyed A.R.B.R. among other groups.
> TRASH such as this cannot survive on the moderated forums where most
> of the DECENT people have moved.

Yeah you want to entertain yourself without fixing the larger picture.
You are totally insignificant in a world where people is judged by the
SIZE OF THE VEHICLE.


== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 7:23 am
From: Mike A Schwab


Actually, it is the fructose.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all


== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 3:22 pm
From: Tºm Shermªn™ °_° <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net">


On 4/29/2011 5:18 AM, Harry Brogan complained:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 23:56:11 -0600, bosco<boscopelone@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 2011-04-28 14:45:16 -0600, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the
>> Beach Cruiser Philosopher"<comandante.banana@yahoo.com> said:
>>
>>> http://practicalcyclist.blogspot.com/2008/06/einstein-and-bicycles.html
>>
>> Well being farther down the line than you are, I think you have a
>> couple of things going on. Your appetite has not decreased, though your
>> daily calorie output has. You are slowly losing muscle mass, so there
>> is less muscle to burn those carbs up without actively doing something.
>> ymmv of course.
>>
>> ben
>
>
> Why do you waste your time responding to this TROLL? It's pieces of
> shit like these that have destroyed A.R.B.R. among other groups.
> TRASH such as this cannot survive on the moderated forums where most
> of the DECENT people have moved.

Moderated forums are boring.

POST FREE OR DIE!

--
Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 4:35 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote in
message news:ipfdn1$qoe$1@dont-email.me...
> On 4/29/2011 5:18 AM, Harry Brogan complained:
[...]
>> Why do you waste your time responding to this TROLL? It's pieces of
>> shit like these that have destroyed A.R.B.R. among other groups.
>> TRASH such as this cannot survive on the moderated forums where most
>> of the DECENT people have moved.
>
> Moderated forums are boring.
>
> POST FREE OR DIE!

On the other hand, unmoderated forums are only good for one thing ...
kicking ass! This will result in someone having a sore ass and someone else
having a sore foot.

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 5:50 pm
From: Harry Brogan


On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:35:31 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
wrote:

>"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote in
>message news:ipfdn1$qoe$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 4/29/2011 5:18 AM, Harry Brogan complained:
>[...]
>>> Why do you waste your time responding to this TROLL? It's pieces of
>>> shit like these that have destroyed A.R.B.R. among other groups.
>>> TRASH such as this cannot survive on the moderated forums where most
>>> of the DECENT people have moved.
>>
>> Moderated forums are boring.
>>
>> POST FREE OR DIE!
>
>On the other hand, unmoderated forums are only good for one thing ...
>kicking ass! This will result in someone having a sore ass and someone else
>having a sore foot.


Certainly tru Ed!!!! I would disagree with that comment I see about
"moderated forums being boring"........Why would that be I wonder?
Boring for those that are unable to continually post dribble I would
bet.....


== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 6:19 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In art. <6e89a$4dbb4b06$d8106f5c$30276@KNOLOGY.NET>, Edward Dolan wrote:
>"Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote in
>message news:ipfdn1$qoe$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 4/29/2011 5:18 AM, Harry Brogan complained:
>[...]
>>> Why do you waste your time responding to this TROLL? It's pieces of
>>> shit like these that have destroyed A.R.B.R. among other groups.
>>> TRASH such as this cannot survive on the moderated forums where most
>>> of the DECENT people have moved.
>>
>> Moderated forums are boring.
>>
>> POST FREE OR DIE!
>
>On the other hand, unmoderated forums are only good for one thing ...
>kicking ass! This will result in someone having a sore ass and someone
>else having a sore foot.

Have a look at 3 unmoderated Usenet newsgroups - 2 high traffic
ones that "work fairly well", and a lower volume one that is outright
98% genteel.

sci.electronics.design
(has excessive political OT stuff and a couple loons and a few
semi-loons)

alt.home.repair
(gets a little bit of sore asses and sore feet and some excess OT
stuff)

sci.engr.lighting
(Traffic is on the low side, but can you believe this genteel forum
could possibly be an unmoderated Usenet newsgroup?)

--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)


== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 6:24 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In <076430ea-5931-457d-967e-d569f32f619b@r20g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher wrote:

>On Apr 29, 1:56 am, bosco <boscopel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 2011-04-28 14:45:16 -0600, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the
>> Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> said:
>>
>> >http://practicalcyclist.blogspot.com/2008/06/einstein-and-bicycles.html
>>
>> Well being farther down the line than you are, I think you have a
>> couple of things going on. Your appetite has not decreased, though your
>> daily calorie output has. You are slowly losing muscle mass, so there
>> is less muscle to burn those carbs up without actively doing something.
>> ymmv of course.
>
>Well, I guess only a hard workout will work. There's a sand trail
>further down that I need to do and that's hardcore --but hot.
>
>Either that or the spinning bike.

How would the sand trail work with the most cooling clothes possible?
Maybe a Greek style exomis?

IIRC, you sound like you're close to a beach. If you can't work out
with a bike, then how about some modification of jogging to have half of
your body underwater? What about swimming?
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)


== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 6:28 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Harry Brogan" <hbroganjr@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
news:j4nmr6lrf0vvrc2u3tpm9013e8b3d7896s@4ax.com...
[...]
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:35:31 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
[...]
>>On the other hand, unmoderated forums are only good for one thing ...
>>kicking ass! This will result in someone having a sore ass and someone
>>else
>>having a sore foot.
>
> Certainly tru Ed!!!! I would disagree with that comment I see about
> "moderated forums being boring"........Why would that be I wonder?
> Boring for those that are unable to continually post dribble I would
> bet.....

The trouble with a moderated forum is that it depends on the excellence of
the moderator. Frankly, it is lot of work to do that and almost no one will
ever want to do it. Only fully staffed websites are capable of it.

Such forums tend to be boring because almost nothing of a controversial
nature can be said without someone taking offense. As a result everyone says
only the most innocuous things. I think one of the main virtues of the
Internet is that the common man gets an opportunity to say whatever he wants
without being subject to an editor. However, this often means that the
lowest common denominator prevails. The secret is never to take an
unmoderated forum seriously. Just have fun and enjoy!

--
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 6:35 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)


In <56a6bc72-7121-49ad-85e8-7d0ab7c8d183@p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
Mike A Schwab wrote:

>Actually, it is the fructose.
>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/17/magazine/mag-17Sugar-t.html?_r=1&
>pagewanted=all

Widely blamed, though the anti-carbers like to say fructose is bad for
the same reasons that calories other than carbs are supposed to be OK.
Except when they mention a metabolism pathway for fructose and fail to
mention non-carb calories have a similar metabolic pathway (excess
calories in any form get converted to triglycerides).

I would be hawkish against excessive calories, especially "empty
calories" of all kinds, including but not only sugar and HFCS. That
includes mayonnaise, which is mostly vegetable oil. Most mayo has even
higher calorie density than sugtar has.
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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== 1 of 1 ==
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 7:21 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


It makes life miserable to all and it just killed a girl from a school
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windows-- and take the plunge...

This is the main danger I find on bicycles as well when you decide
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light camera catches that, but the problem is so widespread it
deserves special attention. Here turning right on red is legal, so
that should be called into question.

Sometimes they just look at your face and you don't know if it's safe
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I definitely favor LIVE CAMERAS to catch all this action and predation
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 8:16 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


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Notice how they are undetectable by RADAR, can be set up to monitor
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knows where the trap is. The latter is much better than placing those
empty police cars in parking lots to act as scarecrows.


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 2:52 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


I like to play a little game with the mouse, I mean the drivers. It's
sort of a guessing game...

We put as many fake yellow boxes as real ones and we keep 'em
guessing.

Look at the decoys here:

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso4.htm

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 3:12 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 29, 3:00 pm, N8N <njna...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 11:04 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > The British are really advanced in this cat and mouse game, where the
> > mouse is the driver and the cat is the authorities that must be one
> > step ahead in the game.
>
> > This is a neat solution --almost perfect-- for catching predatory
> > drivers:
>
> >http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso6.htm
>
> > Notice how they are undetectable by RADAR, can be set up to monitor
> > SPEED and can be complemented with FAKE cameras so the predator never
> > knows where the trap is. The latter is much better than placing those
> > empty police cars in parking lots to act as scarecrows.
>
> you imply that exceeding the posted speed limit is a widespread
> problem. I agree that it is widespread, I disagree that it is a
> problem. Most incidents are not the result of someone exceeding the
> posted speed limit, but they are the result of the driver doing
> something stupid (that isn't caught by the camera.)

Again, if you have an issue with the speed limit, just don't ignore
the law. I do agree they set the speed low in order to trap you in
some cases, but then fight the law.

How about setting lane discipline where the right lane is the slow
lane, and we stop a greater danger: zigzagging around traffic at high
speed.

The most stupid thing though is to talk on the phone, often at lower
speeds.

BY RELYING ON CAMERAS WE CAN FREE THE POLICE FROM AMBUSHING SPEEDERS,
AND CONCENTRATE ON MULTITASKING.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 9:07 am
From: "Bob F"


The Real Bev wrote:
> On 04/28/11 08:40, Bob F wrote:
>
>> I can't get the page to display the outgoing calls window. The
>> button for it doesn't work at all.
>
> It seems easier to just dial your personal google number, 2, and the
> number you want to call. Wrong?

Thanks for this suggestion. I had to change my settings to get it to work, but I
now have this access available.

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 1:19 pm
From: Lenona

I have to say, I've never heard of the reason she quotes first (you'll
have to click to find out what it is) and I'd love to hear readers'
responses to her response.

Anyway, I thought the second reason, which IS listed below, was pretty
heart-breaking, too. Again, I'd love to hear readers' responses to her
last paragraph.

http://www.buffalonews.com/life/columns-advice/miss-manners/article401431.ece

There can be valid reasons for declining a wedding invitation. For
example, that you used to be married to the bride or bridegroom and
would have trouble keeping a straight face while listening to that
person reciting lifetime vows.

Or that you don't recognize any of the names on the invitation.

Or that attending a "dream" wedding in an exotic location would
require more money and time than you are able to spend on your own
dreams.

Or that it will be a show without substance—a rerun —because the
couple is already married.

Fortunately, such excuses do not have to be stated. The proper
negative response to a formal wedding invitation is simply that those
invited "regret that they are unable to accept the kind
invitation. . ."

Nor, since Miss Manners knows what you are thinking, is it strictly
necessary for those declining the invitation to send a present.A
wedding invitation is not an invoice, however much some who send them
contrive to make them appear so.

But she is disturbed at reasons Gentle Readers have given her for
feeling that they must decline invitations to weddings that they would
dearly like to attend..........

(snip)

...........Then there are those who decide not to attend when they
find a wedding is to be black tie. "I have enjoyed discussing my
friend's wedding and have been eagerly looking forward to receiving
her wedding invitation," writes another Gentle Reader. Yet she wants
to know how she can decline that invitation because "a black tie
affair can be very expensive for those who never engage in them. I
haven't worn dresses in at least 15 years. My husband wore black tie
for our daughter's wedding, and I wore very dressy separates. I
suspect my husband will only ever wear black tie again for our son's
wedding."

This breaks Miss Manners' heart. Please—cut back on the money spent on
a wedding present, but don't skip a friend's momentous event. Surely
she would rather have you there—or overlook your faking it with those
dressy separates and a dark suit for your husband. Wouldn't she?

(end)

Lenona.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 8:38 pm
From: Demopublica


I made the mistake of buying a single handle faucet and not get the
replacement seals at the same time.
Now I forget where I bought it.
I think I'm pushing 70. b'day tomorrow.
--
Karma, What a concept!


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Apr 27 2011 8:53 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 27, 9:47 pm, Jessica Powell <jessica.pow...@spam.ah> wrote:
> On 4/26/2011 11:47 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
>
>
> Philosopher wrote:
> > On Apr 26, 10:04 pm, Jessica Powell<jessica.pow...@spam.ah> wrote:
> >> On 4/26/2011 1:23 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> >> Philosopher wrote:
> >>> On Apr 26, 7:51 am, Steve<stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 04:40:32 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> >>>> TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> >>>> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Apr 25, 10:49 pm, Jessica Powell<jessica.pow...@spam.ah> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 4/25/2011 9:26 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> >>>>>>> But I rather have you fight Red Light Cameras than Speed Cameras. They
> >>>>>>> are more susceptible to tricks and doesn't tame traffic that much.
>
> >>>>>>> If you have one you must have the other... or nothing at all!
>
> >>>>>> False dichotomy fallacy.
>
> >>>>>>> Better
> >>>>>>> yet, remove the signs that were meant to catch drivers not protect the
> >>>>>>> people, as you claim to be the case.
>
> >>>>>> I made no such claim about signs.
>
> >>>>> Let me give you my thoughts:
>
> >>>>> Red Light Cameras are meaningless but profitable. Speed Cameras are
> >>>>> meaningful and profitable...
>
> >>>> Red Light Cameras are meaningful. Anything that inhibits red light
> >>>> running is meaningful.
>
> >>> We still have the traffic going wild instead of being tamed. They race
> >>> and zigzag between lights
>
> >> Even scameras don't take pictures between lights so not sure what you
> >> are even talking about.
>
> > I'm talking about the SPEED CAMERAS doing the job between lights and
> > doing a better job at TAMING TRAFFIC. That is the goal, right?
>
> They do a better job of sending scam and nearly unbeatable phony
> tickets, forcing innocent law abiding drivers to pay up. If the goal is
> a racket style scheme, they do a fantastic job.

That sounds interesting. Another conspiracy theory!

So who's behind, Big Brother, contractors, who else? Is the Jewish
lawyer in it? Maybe he's promoting this campaign against cameras. ;)


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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 5:11 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


(Once upon a time I contacted the Jewish Lawyer to sue a Jewish city
for kicking cyclists our of the sidewalk and not providing bike lanes,
and he told me, "You must be injured first!" Is that why they try to
PREVENT accidents in Germany, because there are no Jewish lawyers?)

On Apr 27, 8:36 pm, Fed Konrad <spammingfordoll...@ciasafehouse.gov>
wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 07:06:16 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"

> >> This is America; this ain't Israel.
>
> >> Clean up your act -- or go back!
>
> >We could us "mess" in the original but it's still a four-letter word.
>
> "We!" Who are "We?" You and the CIA? Or just you and your
> pig-spamming husband, Jewish CIA Agent Ed "the Fed" Conrad?
>
> Or is there another spook sitting in your little cubicle with you?
>
> Well both of you, the monkey and the junkey, you media-monopolizing
> pig-spamming, telephone tapping spooks -- are about to get FIRED!
>
> (That's how you do it.)

Get ready, I'm about to talk about the Jewish lawyer. He wants me to
get injured in an accident before he hears from me.

Maybe we should make a cartoon character out of it...

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/news/specials/weirdflorida/blog/Jewish_lawyer.jpg


------------------------------------------------------------

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 6:21 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 27, 12:39 pm, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> As a card carrying Righttard (aka, Rightwingnut) I can assure you that
> having a Big Brother Camera system mounted on the pole near the intersection
> is not an agenda item of The Party. It is also not an agenda item of The
> Party that if you are doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide.
>
> I'm all for the imposition of the Death Penalty for running a red light, so
> don't pretend that this is not a serious issue. Okay, death for running a
> light is a bit harsh, but the point is that running the light is something
> that needs to be dealt with. I just don't believe that red light cameras
> work, they don't prevent accidents, they don't generate revenue -- which
> ought not be a goal of traffic enforcement anyhow -- and it appears that
> studies by parties that don't make money on tickets that red light cameras
> might actually cause more accidents than they prevent.
>
> When an insurance company or the red light camera industry association says
> they work, then I take it with a grain of salt. I make the world's best
> widget that never ever fails, but it doesn't really matter if I'm the one
> saying widgets are good for America because I have a stake in everybody
> owning one, or two.
>
> The insurance company might know that red light cameras don't do anything
> but generate tickets, and that such a ticket is not a predicator of future
> liability for them but they get to raise rates anyway, then whatever they
> say about how well cameras work does more to pack the bottom line than to
> accurately portray the benefits of cameras. And when the camera company says
> cameras work, that's the same as me saying my widgets work.

I'm sure you haven't even considered the possibility but your opinion
may be biased by the JEWISH LAWYER... The Jewish lawyer allows you to
get a ticket and be OK with it, ie. if you got the money he'll fix it
for you and you don't have to worry about penalty points on your
license. That's how the rich get around the law and don't give a damn
about an occasional ticket.

Now, the Jewish lawyer will not make a buck out of cameras, so go
figure who's promoting this campaign about "personal freedom" and
other bullshit. I know one that has a radar mounted in his SUV and he
knows how to stay out of trouble, and he does multitasking plus. ;)

Why you think they don't fight the multitasking in this country? SUVs
--deadly vehicles-- and cell phones go hand in hand and nobody talks
about it. "Nobody" means people that count, ie. lawyers, doctors and
politicians...

Isn't multitasking even more dangerous than DUIs and red light
runners?

***

NOTE: I know all of this because I'm a hunter of the li-on (lie). No
camouflage is too perfect for my senses. Thank the Wisdom of the
Jungle. I'll go ride my Beach Cruiser now. Yes, I do multitasking but
I don't threaten anyone. If they hit me, I may call the Jewish lawyer,
but I try to stay safe. I ride a park in loops in order to be so.
Happy survival to all!


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 10:05 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


On Apr 27, 9:24 am, "I, Enemy Combatant" <antisem...@battlefield.usa>
wrote:

> This is America; this ain't Israel.
>
> Clean up your act -- or go back!

You just hate Jews because they got better lawyers and make the
laws...

'On a bench near the Broward County Courthouse in South Florida, a
blue and white sign exclaimed "Prefer a Jewish lawyer!" and offered a
phone number people could call to reach the Jewish American Bar
Association, a Jewish lawyer referral service founded by social worker
Lisa Spitzer and based in Boca Raton. The controversial advertisement
has raised flags in both the legal and Jewish communities. Are Jewish
lawyers better? Or is this a case of stereotype and financial
opportunity?'

http://blogs.forward.com/the-shmooze/131666/

***

Why don't you become a lawyer yourself? Why don't you pick on Rush
Limbaugh?

Is Rush Limbaugh Jewish?
Yes, Rush Limbaugh is a Jew. Rush's Conservative Gentile persona is a
successful act that has earned him record multimillion dollar
contracts in the radio business.

http://tzvee.blogspot.com/2009/03/is-rush-limbaugh-jewish.html


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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 8:40 am
From: "Bob F"


I can't get the page to display the outgoing calls window. The button for it
doesn't work at all.


== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 10:12 am
From: Derald

No, I'm not. I don't use it ;-) Did you make any progress with the plums?
--
Derald


== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 6:29 pm
From: "Bob F"


Bob F wrote:
> I can't get the page to display the outgoing calls window. The button
> for it doesn't work at all.

It just got fixed, working OK.


== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 9:16 pm
From: The Real Bev


On 04/28/11 08:40, Bob F wrote:

> I can't get the page to display the outgoing calls window. The button for it
> doesn't work at all.

It seems easier to just dial your personal google number, 2, and the
number you want to call. Wrong?


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 11:57 am
From: walt tonne


On Apr 28, 12:38 pm, Car Crashes Mean Car Sales - GM loves highway
criminals <beta...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state/immigration-debate-ramps-up-a...
>
> Immigration debate ramps up as students take over Senate president's
> office AP Photo/Steve Cannon
> Posted: 9:33 p.m. Wednesday, April 27, 2011
>
> TALLAHASSEE — Division over proposed immigration reform ramped up in
> the Capitol on Wednesday as undocumented students and other immigrants
> staged a sit-in in Senate President Mike Haridopolos' office and
> national advocates pushed for a boycott of Florida.
>
> Immigrants chanted, "We are Florida," said the pledge of allegiance
> and lined the walls outside Haridopolos' office and the entrance to
> the Senate chambers as students sought in vain to get a pledge from
> the Republican leader to oppose a proposal by the Florida House to
> create an Arizona-style law
>
> snip

ICE needs to attend these demonstrations and check them all for I.D.
If not here legally they should be arrested and deported but per
Obama's orders they won't do anything unless they have committed a
serious crime. What good does it do to even have immigration laws

Can you imagine old bloated Uncle Suckemoff doing anything but kiss
ass?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 1:36 pm
From: phil scott


Link from here... notice the news babe smirking :)

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/2ff0e8a5fadbb9c6?hl=en#

No fraud can last long before it ruins its hostie toasties...

My brother has a friend in san diego, calif.. had two city pensions,
life guard, 35k a year, fireman 65k a year.. city notified him it was
no longer paying double dippers.
cut his payment to fireman pension, then reduced that. he still gets
over 3x the typical private sector pensions though)

Next will be massive city, county and state defaults.. those pensions
will be defaulted on entirely in some cases... why? many snivel
servants, and administrators had run their pension up to a net value
between 5 and 26 million dollars...... each.

That entire fraud on steroids is now unraveling, my guess is that a
few hundred thousand bogus speeding ticket T shirts with pension fraud
expose on the back, 2004 etc 6 years before the media picked it up...
might sped this up a bit.

why? one lying cop, fraudulent judge, fraudulent appeals board.. when
the cop was half a mile away around a corner when writing me up for
speeding inside a tunnel...
back then, I was ridiculed on this NG for wasting my time and said
then that this would backfire onto the snivel service pensions
badly... and it has.

We have just seen the very tip of this almost limitless iceburg.. this
is just starting. A little honesty and integrity in govt could have
precluded all that.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics.economics/browse_thread/thread/2ff0e8a5fadbb9c6?hl=en#


KSFO radio in SF calif, (you can get it online) has whistle blower
wednesdays. 7 am to 9am its going to be an ongoing series.
Thats with my bud, Brian Sussman.

***
Meantime did you know thats now illegal in calif honk your horn in
traffic unless its a dire situation... cant honk just wake a driver
stopped at a green light texting or whatever.. not even a tap on the
horn. Several hundred dollar fine plus court costs for that...
officers get extra 3 hours overtime for going to court on those.. in
Marin one tried to change the charges in court! laughable. if it
were not so devoid of decency.


you can also search google for various terms, TSA molestation,
Pension fraud, Police abuse... a few thousand vids.. some entirely
gastly, and a few that had been pressed and prosecuted.

The high cost of being spineless whims is now upon us.

Phil scott

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Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 1:45 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"


After launching my Beach Cruiser Philosophy --slowly but surely-- my
levels of energy are noticeably better, my tan is there, but a belly --
more properly "love handles"-- have begun to appear. I thought it
would only affect those who, like Buddha, sat on their ass, but the
reality of riding slowly is starting to show.

Do I need to use my spinning bike sitting at home or is a belly normal
part of wisdom? Einstein --whose wisdom inspires me-- had a belly too
and said this about the Theory of Relativity, "I thought about it
while riding a bike." He also had a wisdom to live by, "Life is like
riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving"...

http://practicalcyclist.blogspot.com/2008/06/einstein-and-bicycles.html

NOTE: I have three active mice doing the wheel, but only one is fat.
It must be the genes. WELL, THE POINT IS... YOU GOT TO KEEP MOVING!


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http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 10:56 pm
From: bosco


On 2011-04-28 14:45:16 -0600, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the
Beach Cruiser Philosopher" <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> said:

> http://practicalcyclist.blogspot.com/2008/06/einstein-and-bicycles.html

Well being farther down the line than you are, I think you have a
couple of things going on. Your appetite has not decreased, though your
daily calorie output has. You are slowly losing muscle mass, so there
is less muscle to burn those carbs up without actively doing something.
ymmv of course.

ben


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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 8:46 pm
From: Demopublican


In article <je5kp61o7miepk9hqnbgn7cs8e9nd1b6in@4ax.com>, me@privacy.net
wrote:

> gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote:
>
> >Whe have a place, at Yucca Mountain. However, a bunch of scaremongers
> >caused it to be shut down.
>
> I say we put it in YOUR backyard

If everyone (I'm being realistic?) had a garden, a line to dry your
cloths ,a solar hot water heater and a photovoltaic panel or two.
Maybe even a carport roof that is a charger for the electric car.
then we could say we've evolved. Eh?
--
Karma, What a concept!


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 9:53 pm
From: Demopublica


In article <8vvfk6FvleU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> me@privacy.net wrote
> >>> gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) wrote
>
> >>>> Whe have a place, at Yucca Mountain. However,
> >>>> a bunch of scaremongers caused it to be shut down.
>
> >>> I say we put it in YOUR backyard
>
> >> Makes a lot more sense to use Yucca Mountain.
>
> > You're not afraid of a little harmless nuclear waste, are you?
>
> I dont have anything like Yucca Mountain in my backyard, fool.

Yes. Our Sun is a nuclear fusion reaction. and 93 Million miles away
seems about right to store said wastes.
IMHO
--
Karma, What a concept!

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Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 10:18 pm
From: lisa


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 11:25 pm
From: grdvijey


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Apr 28 2011 11:24 pm
From: grdvijey


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