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* Surprise! California does something stupid - again. - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/48d02eb74da95076?hl=en
* The caliber of Verizon Wireless' customer service reps - 4 messages, 4
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/70bfd32f0b697e08?hl=en
* Senate committee investigates "scam" benefiting some major online companies -
1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f4ca94cafcfd4695?hl=en
* "Promote the general welfare of the United States" - doesn't mean what
leftists think - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3f1993b181e2faf4?hl=en
* Carter years revisited? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4814418ae662c970?hl=en
* Please do not buy a new car. - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a8576659714369dc?hl=en
* Some headlines are way better than the stories - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5fc6a72aa8d3e242?hl=en
* advance classified of Bangladesh - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/63fe635a6df31120?hl=en
* Ad place of world wild - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6ec7ef43464e9782?hl=en
* Your Promotion OUr Goal!!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/371d00a2679eb847?hl=en
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TOPIC: Surprise! California does something stupid - again.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/48d02eb74da95076?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Nov 20 2009 11:11 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<oqCNm.4590$kY2.3585@newsfe01.iad>,
"Annie Woughman"
<anniewoughman@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <atlas-bugged@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:atlas-bugged-826084.10232820112009@aries.ka.weretis.net...
> > In article
> > <UprNm.32235$Zu5.27484@newsfe24.iad>,
> > "Annie Woughman"
> > <anniewoughman@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "Chilly8" <Chilly8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:he43h9$esl$1@aioe.org...
> >> >
> >> > "Ohioguy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
> >> > news:qFeNm.6320$cX4.472@newsfe10.iad...
> >> >> http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20091118/ap_on_hi_te/us_california_tv_ener
> >> >> gy
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Some manufacturers said implementing a power standard will limit
> >> >> consumer choice and harm California retailers because consumers could
> >> >> simply buy TVs out of state or order them online. Industry
> >> >
> >> Californians already come up to Oregon in droves to buy everything from
> >> flat
> >> screen televisions, computers, and any type of luxury items, but it isn't
> >> because they can't buy them in California--it is because of the 10% sales
> >> tax (Oregon has none.) Any day of the week you can drive to our local
> >> Costco and every other car (as well as U-Haul trucks and trailers) in the
> >> lot is from California.
> >
> >
> >
> >> I overheard one guy telling a clerk that it wasn't
> >> only the sales tax, California also charges a luxury tax on items like
> >> big-screen TV's.
> >
> > Can you provide some sort of link about
> > this "luxury tax"
>
> No, I was just sharing what I heard a guy tell the clerk. I was standing
> behind him in the check-out line. I'm sorry if I passed on erroneous
> information.
I know of no "luxury" tax, but wouldn't
be surprised that one is lurking around.
But there is a "use" tax on goods
purchased out-of-state or on the internet
>
> >> Groups of people take turns making the trip filling out
> >> lists for their friends and neighbors. The amount they save in sales and
> >> luxury tax makes it worth the amount spent on gas--especially when they
> >> trade off.
> >>
> >> > That is very true. All one would have to do is draw out enough
> >> > cash from the bank, then go across the state line and buy one.
> >> > By using cash, no credit cards or checks, there is no paper
> >> > trail the state could use to find people using such sets, if they
> >> > were to go the next step and outlaw posession.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 5:06 am
From: George
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> In article
> <oqCNm.4590$kY2.3585@newsfe01.iad>,
> "Annie Woughman"
> <anniewoughman@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <atlas-bugged@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:atlas-bugged-826084.10232820112009@aries.ka.weretis.net...
>>> In article
>>> <UprNm.32235$Zu5.27484@newsfe24.iad>,
>>> "Annie Woughman"
>>> <anniewoughman@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Chilly8" <Chilly8@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:he43h9$esl$1@aioe.org...
>>>>> "Ohioguy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:qFeNm.6320$cX4.472@newsfe10.iad...
>>>>>> http://tech.yahoo.com/news/ap/20091118/ap_on_hi_te/us_california_tv_ener
>>>>>> gy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Some manufacturers said implementing a power standard will limit
>>>>>> consumer choice and harm California retailers because consumers could
>>>>>> simply buy TVs out of state or order them online. Industry
>>>> Californians already come up to Oregon in droves to buy everything from
>>>> flat
>>>> screen televisions, computers, and any type of luxury items, but it isn't
>>>> because they can't buy them in California--it is because of the 10% sales
>>>> tax (Oregon has none.) Any day of the week you can drive to our local
>>>> Costco and every other car (as well as U-Haul trucks and trailers) in the
>>>> lot is from California.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I overheard one guy telling a clerk that it wasn't
>>>> only the sales tax, California also charges a luxury tax on items like
>>>> big-screen TV's.
>>> Can you provide some sort of link about
>>> this "luxury tax"
>> No, I was just sharing what I heard a guy tell the clerk. I was standing
>> behind him in the check-out line. I'm sorry if I passed on erroneous
>> information.
>
> I know of no "luxury" tax, but wouldn't
> be surprised that one is lurking around.
> But there is a "use" tax on goods
> purchased out-of-state or on the internet
>
>
The only "luxury" tax I know of in the US was the 10% Federal excise
luxury tax imposed on boats, higher end cars, furs etc in the early
1990s and repealed a few years later. It was levied using an idea
similar to the much admired way that they do it in Europe. The seller
was taxed so technically the purchaser didn't pay the tax...
>>>> Groups of people take turns making the trip filling out
>>>> lists for their friends and neighbors. The amount they save in sales and
>>>> luxury tax makes it worth the amount spent on gas--especially when they
>>>> trade off.
>>>>
>>>>> That is very true. All one would have to do is draw out enough
>>>>> cash from the bank, then go across the state line and buy one.
>>>>> By using cash, no credit cards or checks, there is no paper
>>>>> trail the state could use to find people using such sets, if they
>>>>> were to go the next step and outlaw posession.
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TOPIC: The caliber of Verizon Wireless' customer service reps
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/70bfd32f0b697e08?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 5:03 am
From: Michelle Steiner
In article <Xns9CCA312D4294noonehomecom@74.209.131.13>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> How long has it been since you set your computer's CLOCK?
>
> Your post says 2005! Are you trying to be a smartass?
That message was written in 2005; that whole thread was written then. Your
computer must be a time machine.
-- Helpful Michelle
--
Member National Rifle Association
Member American Civil Liberties Union
Member Human Rights Campaign
== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 2:49 pm
From: clams_casino
Larry wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>
>How long has it been since you set your computer's CLOCK?
>
>Your post says 2005! Are you trying to be a smartass?
>
>
>
>
He probably posted it via AOL in 2005 and it's just showing up.
== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 8:32 pm
From: aemeijers
Michelle Steiner wrote:
(snip)
My first thought when seeing this subject line was 'Why? Do you want to
shoot them out of a cannon?'
--
aem sends...
== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 8:50 pm
From: The Real Bev
aemeijers wrote:
> Michelle Steiner wrote:
> (snip)
>
> My first thought when seeing this subject line was 'Why? Do you want to
> shoot them out of a cannon?'
I would have thought the answer would be obvious.
--
Cheers, Bev
---------------------------------------------------
Don't you just KNOW that there is more than one
Sierra Club member who is absolutely sure that the
dinosaurs died out because of something humans did?
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TOPIC: Senate committee investigates "scam" benefiting some major online
companies
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f4ca94cafcfd4695?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 6:42 am
From: "Hiker"
Some companies benefiting are Pizza Hut, Buy.com, Classmates.com,
Yahoo, Fandango, Travelocity, Expedia/Hotels.com, 1-800-Flowers.com,
Barnes and Noble, and eHarmony.
http://www.theupperdeck.com/?p=229
--
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TOPIC: "Promote the general welfare of the United States" - doesn't mean what
leftists think
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3f1993b181e2faf4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 1:29 pm
From: Robert of St Louis
Yadha Yadha Yadha
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TOPIC: Carter years revisited?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4814418ae662c970?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 2:38 pm
From: "sr"
Make no mistake about it, Buffett is very worried about inflation.
In some candid comments earlier this year, he warned that inflation will
undoubtedly rear its ugly head.
At his annual shareholders meeting in May, Buffett said of U.S. economic
policies: "My guess is the ultimate price will be paid by a shrinkage of the
value of the dollar."
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 9:37 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
sr wrote
> Make no mistake about it, Buffett is very worried about inflation.
His problem.
> In some candid comments earlier this year, he warned that inflation will undoubtedly rear its ugly head.
And it didnt turn out to be a significant problem the
last time govt debt was MUCH higher, during WW2.
> At his annual shareholders meeting in May, Buffett said of U.S. economic policies: "My guess is the ultimate price
> will be paid by a shrinkage of the value of the dollar."
Didnt happen the last time govt debt was MUCH higher, during WW2.
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TOPIC: Please do not buy a new car.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a8576659714369dc?hl=en
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Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 2:41 pm
From: clams_casino
William Tucker wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>So, you are married to the brand. A lot of people are, that is why the
>prices stay high.
>
>
>
I am now. After being stuck by a number of GM products & having three
out of three Honda products perform beyond my expectations, I'm sold.
On the other hand, it's unlikely I'll need another for at least five
years, likely longer. With such limited repeat buying, one has to
wonder how they do so well. With a GM products, they know you'll be
back within 125k miles.
>
>I find that anyone that knows anything about the workings of a car can
>usually judge whether a used car is a clunker or not. For the rest of them
>a check over by a competent mechanic is always good.
>
>
Excellent advice. When I lived in Charlotte, they had a service called
something like LemonBusters that would provide an independent evaluation
for a reasonable fee - especially important if buying off an
individual. No sure if they are still around.
>
>What, you didn't take care of them? I haven't found GM to be any better or
>worse than Honda, Toyota, Subaru or Ford.
>
>
That's certainly NOT been my experience. I can't say I treated them
differently, only that the GM, Chrysler & Ford products I've owned seem
to develop squeaks, road noise, reduced ride quality, etc within about
10k-20k miles whereas my Honda products seem to run as well at 100k as
they did new.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 2:47 pm
From: clams_casino
VFW wrote:
>
>
>Probably, the best way , certainly the easiest , is to buy an "09 now,
>that the ;10's are out. and have no trade-in. you could easily get that
>amount off the price. sell your car privately . Dealers give you
>nothing for it. they don't want your trade-in.
>and shop around. work one dealer off the others. get help if necessary.
>and good luck. Oh, yes don't buy a one year car or the first year of a
>"new" design.
>
>
Fully agree, however I did buy my most current car only a few months
into its model year. Previously, I typically would buy late in the
model year or even new, but 1.5 years old. My primary car at that time
was totaled (hit head-on by a drunk driver while legally parked
unoccupied). It happened to be mid January after a big snow storm when
the dealer apparently wanted to move some vehicles. Oddly, they had a
$5k coupon in the paper off any Pilot on their lot. I previous bought
two cars via internet for the best price, but in this case, I couldn't
get an internet price within $500 of the January special.
Bottom line - there are no firm rules.
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TOPIC: Some headlines are way better than the stories
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5fc6a72aa8d3e242?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 8:26 pm
From: The Real Bev
"Man tied lizards to chest at airport"
<http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/20/AR2009112004382.html>
--
Cheers, Bev
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The early bird gets the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese.
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TOPIC: advance classified of Bangladesh
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 8:48 pm
From: abrahim
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TOPIC: Ad place of world wild
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Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 8:49 pm
From: abrahim
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TOPIC: Your Promotion OUr Goal!!!
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Date: Sat, Nov 21 2009 8:49 pm
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