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* America is doomed without industrial restoration - 1 messages, 1 author
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* DTV converters - 1 messages, 1 author
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* DAMN YOU OBAMA DEM & GOP TRAITORS! I JUST PAID-OFF MY MORTGAGE IN NOV -- U.S.
GOVT HAS MADE ME A SUCKER! - 3 messages, 3 authors
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* Hey, I'm Spending ! - 8 messages, 5 authors
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* Reuse of old computers with Linux - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* trying to make my own Fiddle Faddle/cracker jacks/kettle corn - 1 messages,
1 author
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* It's all falling apart, isn't it? - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: America is doomed without industrial restoration
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3ac833194943bee0?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 12:57 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Vic Smith wrote
> Bama Brian <brianNOSPAMclaypool@att.net> wrote
>> Rod Speed wrote
>>> me@privacy.net wrote
>>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> I know a good EE in Atlanta who has not worked in his trade for eight years.
>>>>> He should have got a clue and got qualified in different engineering.
>>>> Like what KIND of engineering?
>>> Civil would be fine, any modern first world country keeps needing
>>> decent infrastructure and a water supply, sewage treatment, roads,
>>> bridges etc etc etc.
>>>> serious question
>> Apparently, Rod, old hooting baboon, you don't know that in order to
>> switch engineering specialties it takes from two to three years of
>> full-time school to pick up that new accreditation.
> Not much worth arguing with Rod.
Yep, you keep getting done like a fucking dinner, time after time after time.
> He's one those globalists who think the economic model that just fell apart is still viable.
Corse it is, you watch. Mindless protectionism was proven to not work in the great depression.
> He'll just say "Ain't gonna happen. You wait."
> Then it happens despite him.
You're lying, as always.
> His biggest mistake is thinking every "unskilled" worker in trouble
> financially is a monkey. The "monkeys" are taking over the zoo.
Like hell they are. The most they ever did was get some stupid lawyer Prez.
So stupid that they cant even manage to grasp that appointing slick's
retreads is nothing even remotely resembling anything like change.
The fuckwit even appointed slick's fuckwit wife.
> Too bad about that fly in the ointment called "Democracy."
Its irrelevant, Obummer hasnt come up with a damned thing any different to the ex chief ape.
> There are fantasy bubbles bursting into the world of reality all over the place.
> The real estate fantasy bubble that inflated folks' "net worth."
> Rod used to talk about that "value" all the time to show how the U.S. was "wealthy."
> The stock market fantasy bubble that inflated folks' "net worth."
> Rod used to talk about that "value" all the time to show how the U.S. was "wealthy."
Still is. Try India or Ethiopia sometime to see how the non wealthy 'live'
> The bullshit "low unemployment" fantasy bubble that hid the cancer of
> an economy getting deeper and deeper into debt to low-wage foreigners.
You're lying, as always.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t12.htm
> Rod has used some globalist scammer international
> organization's figures to tout the "low unemployment" here.
You're lying, as always. The govt's, actually.
> Those were as real as the 14000 DJI and the $800k 2-bedroom bungalow.
You're lying, as always.
> All these bubbles were brought to us by the greed and corruption of scammers
> who think like Rod that scamming "the monkeys" is a decent path of life.
Nope, by the stupid US system that didnt adequately control sub prime lending.
> Their world is falling apart.
Nope, the world of unemployable fools like you is, actually.
> The thread title is true.
Nope, and 'industrial restoration' isnt even possible now, you watch.
> But the scammers are still pretty strong. Look at the uproar
> about the "buy America" provision of the stimulus package.
> Despite Obama not being a Wall Street scammer,
> he's still has to overcome being a yuppie.
Not even possible, you watch.
> I don't think he gets it yet.
You certainly dont.
> You can't support the job needs of the U.S. making windmills and solar panels.
Indeed.
> We need to make the bulk of our consumer goods.
Nope. The US managed an unemployment rate that bottomed at
4.x% with an immense legal and illegal immigration rate, with the
highest participation rate the US has ever seen without that.
> Autos.
> Washing machines and dryers.
> Tools.
> Televisions.
> Phones.
> etc, etc.
> Whatever it takes to balance trade.
Taint gunna happen, you watch.
> The non-energy trade deficit is about $350 BILLION A YEAR.
> Lots of "monkeys" here in the U.S. who need productive work.
> That scares the bejesus out of the scammers like Rod.
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed ape fantasys.
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TOPIC: DTV converters
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 1:06 pm
From: "jdkki"
clams_casino wrote:
> John A. Weeks III wrote:
>
>> In article <Coznl.30756$xK6.29821@newsfe12.iad>,
>> clams_casino <PeterGriffin@DrunkinClam.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Jeff wrote:
>>> Thanks - oddly, I'm getting a channel that's not listed in our
>>> paper & I'm not finding any information about it (RTN - 10.2). It
>>> appears to be an independent station where its programming does not
>>> match anything the paper nor cable.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> That is the Retro Television Network out of Rhode Island. You can
>> google for it. The broadcast on channel 51, and your tv displays
>> it as channel 10. 10.1 is the NBC station, 10.2 is RTN.
>>
>> -john-
>>
>>
>>
>
> RTN has several shows I'd like to watch, but I don't want to be up at
> 4 am to watch TV. Any suggestion as to whether the over-the-air
> digital shows can be recorded, short of buying an expensive DVD recorder?
Get a DTV card for the PC or a USB DTV stick.
> Are newer VCRs capable of recording digital shows over the air?
Not by themselves, but you can put a DTV converter between them and the antenna.
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TOPIC: DAMN YOU OBAMA DEM & GOP TRAITORS! I JUST PAID-OFF MY MORTGAGE IN NOV --
U.S. GOVT HAS MADE ME A SUCKER!
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 3:25 pm
From: truthtteller@nospam.net
Stop driveling right wing kook.
In <orj0q4h7kojej2u46ls2blgrjh1bfs0bim@4ax.com>, on 02/21/2009
at 11:03 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@yahoo.com> said:
>In talk.politics.guns truthtteller@nospam.net wrote:
>>In <qdh0q49cvp6v3u4g09f42camejj5iek6ei@4ax.com>, on 02/21/2009
>> at 10:21 AM, Klaus Schadenfreude <klausschadenfreude@yahoo.com> said:
>>
>>
>>
>>>In talk.politics.guns truthtteller@nospam.net wrote:
>>
>>>>In <Xns9BB98351576AEWereofftoseethewizrd@216.196.97.142>, on 02/21/2009
>>>> at 11:54 AM, grey_ghost471-newsgroups@yahoo.com (Gray Ghost) said:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"meport" <jjme169@earthlink.net> wrote in
>>>>>news:MbqdnQ716oZPvD3UnZ2dnUVZ_rbinZ2d@earthlink.com:
>>>>
>>>>>> Let me make a suggestion - for all of you who think like these posters do
>>>>>> - WE live in a free country that permits EMIGRATION. Why don't you
>>>>>> EMIGRATE to a place that you would be more comfortable living in/at/on?
>>>>>> I hear that Zimbabwe is a wonderful place. Paraguay also comes to mind,
>>>>>> as does Uruguay and the Maldives Islands. I think you and all the other
>>>>>> like minded posters of your ilk would be very comfortable living in
>>>>>> /at/on any one of these places.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>What kind of an answer is that? People who worked hard, played by the
>>>>>rules and made good decisions are being compelled to pay for people and
>>>>>lenders who took short cuts and made bad decisions. How is that fair?
>>>>
>>>>>Seems like there is little motivation to play by the rules anymore, if
>>>>>you fuck up Uncle will help yopu out to the detriment of the free
>>>>>enterprise system and the future.
>>>>
>>>>>I remember all you whiners complaining about "Bush's" deficit. Obummer is
>>>>> gonna put the whole country into bankruptcy and not a peep from you
>>>>>scum.
>>>>
>>>>So far son, he has spent less the bush in his wars for nothing, not to
>>>>mention its being spent to clean up bush's mess. And not peep from you
>>>>right wigner goobers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>>Holy crap! Truthteller managed to not top-post for once! That's amazing!
>>>This is a red letter day!
>>
>>>"More US Troops Going to Afghanistan as Obama Considers Next Steps
>>>President orders the deployment of an additional 17,000 troops in the
>>>coming months to deal with the Taliban and al-Qaida. "
>>>http://www.voanews.com/specialenglish/2009-02-20-voa1.cfm
>>
>>>Looks like Obama is stepping up his own "War For Nothing," doesn't it
>>>goob?
>>
>>>[chuckle]
>>
>>
>>He is clearing up the idiot war bush started.
>"Clearing it up?" You mean doing an "LBJ" and escalating it.
>>And goober, the key to
>>doing that is not to run -- which you are in favor of
>I'm not in favor of running, dumb ass. I'm in favor of full scale
>invasion.
>>>-- or you wouldn't be whining about it.
>I'm making fun of Obama and his idiot followers, which I assume includes
>the likes of you.
>>
>>Now go play with yourself fucktard. Maybe you can do that with out being
>>an idiot.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>________________________________
>Truth Teller's Lies
>LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
>LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
>LIE 3 "I never lied"
>LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement" LIE 5
>"Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
>[For a complete list of Truthteller's lies see http://tinyurl.com/667w6z]
>LIE 71 "All crypto codes are produced by the NSA."
>LIE 72"You iidots[sic] never even served in the military."
>LIE 73"You have no job klaus. You're on the internet all day long."
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 6:29 pm
From: Klaus Schadenfreude
In talk.politics.guns truthtteller@nospam.net wrote:
>
>
>Stop driveling right wing kook.
Didn't think you had the courage or knowledge to address the issues,
Edwin.
That's how I know I won.
________________________________
Truth Teller's Lies
LIE 1 "Bush signed the agreement."
LIE 2 "Bush 'has to sign' the agreement.
LIE 3 "I never lied"
LIE 4 "I said Bush signed the agreement to work on the agreement"
LIE 5 "Other people can sign docs w/ the authority of the President."
[For a complete list of Truthteller's lies see http://tinyurl.com/667w6z]
LIE 71 "All crypto codes are produced by the NSA."
LIE 72"You iidots[sic] never even served in the military."
LIE 73"You have no job klaus. You're on the internet all day long."
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 10:28 pm
From: LiberalPatriot@xemaps.com
Direct your outrage at the real scoundrels: Reagan-style
deregulators.
If the banking and mortgage industries had remain regulated, we
wouldn't be in this mess.
As it is, you should be praising your lucky stars that you were able
to pay off your mortgage. You should also be grateful that Obama and
the Dems are taking steps so that your house has some value left.
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TOPIC: Hey, I'm Spending !
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 3:33 pm
From: Noveau67@aol.com
I have decided to spend some money NOW before the massive inflation
appears. I'm buying that expensive beer now, at $27 a case, because
it's going to cost $33 next year if massive inflation kicks in.
== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 3:58 pm
From: tweeny90655@mypacks.net
On Feb 21, 6:33 pm, Novea...@aol.com wrote:
> I have decided to spend some money NOW before the massive inflation
> appears. I'm buying that expensive beer now, at $27 a case, because
> it's going to cost $33 next year if massive inflation kicks in.
IF?
== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 4:12 pm
From: "JR Weiss"
<Noveau67@aol.com> wrote...
> I have decided to spend some money NOW before the massive inflation
> appears. I'm buying that expensive beer now, at $27 a case, because
> it's going to cost $33 next year if massive inflation kicks in.
Great idea, but only if you don't drink it 'til next year...
== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 4:24 pm
From: Noveau67@aol.com
On Feb 21, 4:12 pm, "JR Weiss" <jrwe...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> <Novea...@aol.com> wrote...
> > I have decided to spend some money NOW before the massive inflation
> > appears. I'm buying that expensive beer now, at $27 a case, because
> > it's going to cost $33 next year if massive inflation kicks in.
>
> Great idea, but only if you don't drink it 'til next year...
I'll have the memory.
== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 5:04 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Noveau67@aol.com wrote:
> I have decided to spend some money NOW before the massive inflation
> appears. I'm buying that expensive beer now, at $27 a case, because
> it's going to cost $33 next year if massive inflation kicks in.
You wouldnt know what massive inflation was if it bit you on your lard arse.
== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 5:24 pm
From: "John A. Weeks III"
In article
<98a97d93-602e-464c-8d9a-db520874784b@w34g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Noveau67@aol.com wrote:
> I have decided to spend some money NOW before the massive inflation
> appears. I'm buying that expensive beer now, at $27 a case, because
> it's going to cost $33 next year if massive inflation kicks in.
What massive inflation? Economists are worried about deflation
right now. Prices are dropping, and interest rates could barely
go any lower. If you keep spreading that kind of BS, you are
going to scare people.
-john-
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== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 8:11 pm
From: Noveau67@aol.com
>
> What massive inflation? Economists are worried about deflation
> right now. Prices are dropping, and interest rates could barely
> go any lower. If you keep spreading that kind of BS, you are
> going to scare people.
>
> -john-
>
As long as I can keep my job at my current wages, and mobs aren't
running around pillaging and raping, then bring on the
deflation !!! I like prices dropping. But I haven't seen any
price drops whatsoever. Yes, the prices have come down somewhat with
cost of gas, but not all the way down to where they were before. I'd
call that inflation.
What I am hearing and reading is that the printing of money by the
US Treasury to pay for Stimulus 1, 2 and 3, plus bailouts 1, 2, 3 ad
infinitum, will cause 10% to 20% inflation starting around year 2010.
I really don't think they know what's going to happen.
== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 10:42 pm
From: "John A. Weeks III"
In article
<ed30f106-72f8-4bb6-8cbe-ea29ce746b8c@p13g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
Noveau67@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > What massive inflation? Economists are worried about deflation
> > right now. Prices are dropping, and interest rates could barely
> > go any lower. If you keep spreading that kind of BS, you are
> > going to scare people.
> >
> > -john-
> >
>
> As long as I can keep my job at my current wages, and mobs aren't
> running around pillaging and raping, then bring on the
> deflation !!! I like prices dropping. But I haven't seen any
> price drops whatsoever. Yes, the prices have come down somewhat with
> cost of gas, but not all the way down to where they were before. I'd
> call that inflation.
I'd say that gas dropping by more than 50% and the continual price
drop on technology, plus houses having dropped 10% to 25% would
all be considered to be price drops. Even more remarkable is that
inflation stood at near zero even when gas prices were shooting
up. The only way that can happen is if everything else is dropping
in price by an equal amount.
> What I am hearing and reading is that the printing of money by the
> US Treasury to pay for Stimulus 1, 2 and 3, plus bailouts 1, 2, 3 ad
> infinitum, will cause 10% to 20% inflation starting around year 2010.
If that were true, wouldn't the trillions of dollars that the
Bush administration printed be causing inflation today? It
hasn't, and inflation is so low as to be a non-factor.
-john-
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TOPIC: Reuse of old computers with Linux
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 4:16 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com
On Feb 21, 2:52 pm, matthewb <matthew.bu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Why reuse an old computer?
>
> Cheaper than buying a new computer.
> Allows a computer to have a new second life.
> Less e waste being created.
> If your old PC has full or a broken hard drive.
> Create a portable Linux installation with your own documents on a USB
> memory stick.
> Potentially retrieve files from a computer with a broken operating
> system.
> The power consumption may be lower than the modern trend of 500 Watt
> power supplies in a PC.
>
>
> What do you think?
I don't think much of the idea. Hard drives are dirt cheap right now.
If you have a broken one you'd have to replace it anyway. Why dink
around with Linux that won't run some of my software, peripherals and
script not written for it? Just back yourself up with a cloned drive
to begin with and the problem of a bad drive is fixed in five minutes,
no files lost. If you have two old computers, you can sinc them and do
the same thing.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 5:20 pm
From: The Real Bev
albundy2@mailinator.com wrote:
> On Feb 21, 2:52 pm, matthewb <matthew.bu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why reuse an old computer?
>>
>> Cheaper than buying a new computer.
>> Allows a computer to have a new second life.
>> Less e waste being created.
>> If your old PC has full or a broken hard drive.
>> Create a portable Linux installation with your own documents on a USB
>> memory stick.
>> Potentially retrieve files from a computer with a broken operating
>> system.
>> The power consumption may be lower than the modern trend of 500 Watt
>> power supplies in a PC.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> I don't think much of the idea. Hard drives are dirt cheap right now.
> If you have a broken one you'd have to replace it anyway. Why dink
> around with Linux that won't run some of my software, peripherals and
> script not written for it? Just back yourself up with a cloned drive
> to begin with and the problem of a bad drive is fixed in five minutes,
> no files lost. If you have two old computers, you can sinc them and do
> the same thing.
Movie and music server for your entertainment center (formerly known as hifi and
TV). As you say, hard drives are dirt cheap right now.
--
Cheers,
Bev
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TOPIC: trying to make my own Fiddle Faddle/cracker jacks/kettle corn
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 5:29 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com
On Feb 20, 5:52 pm, OhioGuy <n...@none.net> wrote:
> I've been experimenting with different recipes I've found online for
> making some sort of sweet and slightly salty popcorn snack. I've
> experimented with and without nuts, but not had very good success. For
> example, two days ago I finally made something that I considered edible.
>
> Too often, it just seems burnt or not very good tasting. I'm
> wondering what the heck they do differently with the mass produced stuff
> sold at retail?
>
> Have any of you tried doing something like this? Is there some trick
> to making a good batch? Thanks!
Obvious.
You need to mix in some cheap plastic toys like a top and a few
stickers.
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TOPIC: It's all falling apart, isn't it?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Feb 21 2009 9:48 pm
From: phil scott
On Feb 20, 5:52 pm, Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> In article
> <eacd8d83-56df-4b7f-8811-8aad4321f...@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 18, 8:50 pm, Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <8822ef0e-ed15-44b2-bffc-2198990c2...@m2g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Cindy Hamilton <angelicapagane...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Feb 17, 9:46 pm, Harold Burton <hal.i.bur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > Right, before DemocRAT Johnson changed the rules. Bet the
> > > > > Obama-lama-ding-dong appreciates that.
>
> > > > You undermine the validity of your position by resorting to junior-
> > > > high insults.
>
> > > Which makes me different for all the lefturds posting, how?
>
> > Does this rhetorical question mean that you don't care about
> > being different from the "lefturds"?
>
> I just enjoy rubbing their noses in their hypocrisy. Using "junior-high
> insults" is a way of baiting them, and they are stupid enough to bite.
>
> > I should imagine that you would want to distinguish yourself from
> > them as much as possible.
>
> Doesn't bother me.
>
> > > I notice you chose to dodge the question. Good idea.
>
> > I saw no question in your post, only assertions. I am
> > relatively indifferent to the political machinations that
> > result in underestimation of unemployment figures.
>
> > Politicians lie, regardless of which way they lean. It
> > is fruitless to point fingers in one direction when lies
> > emanation from all quarters.
>
> I know that both sides lie and I enjoy baiting the idiots on the left
> that labor under the delusion that their side is any better than the
> other.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
grow uo Harrold, you will no longer enjoy behaving like a high school
kiddie regardless your ratiionalizations,,, regardless the error of
others, or your
own error,, unless you are positing your own infalability, then
defending it in high school kiddie fashion... such behavior is a waste
of time Harrold.
there are more intelligent approaches ... some folks choose to apply
themselves to those ends.
this ends my remarks on the topic, reject them if you wish
Phil scott
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