Frugal Living: Oct 18, 2008

Saturday, October 18, 2008

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TOPIC: Where can you buy less expensive Braun electric toothbrush replacement?
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, Oct 17 2008 10:03 pm
From: James

Went to the Linnen & Things going out of business sale today. They
are only 10% off $22. for 3. I like to be able to get them for $15.

If you know of a place with low prices please let me know.

Thanks in advance.

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TOPIC: Best GPS Units For Less Than $200!
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 4:11 am
From: root

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I dont even attach it to anything, just pick it up and enter the new address
> just before driving off from the previous stop, before I start the engine.
>

So you do the sequencing of the sites in your head?

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 12:00 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>> I dont even attach it to anything, just pick it up and enter the new address
>> just before driving off from the previous stop, before I start the engine.

> So you do the sequencing of the sites in your head?

Yeah, basically.

Like I said, I havent found any GPS that will do the routing for you
and will allow for the difference between yard sales that do list a
full street address so you can find them before the official start time,
rather than the ones that just list the street name and use a sign
or balloons etc to indicate the specific house when they open.

And there is also the other variable of the start time that varys quite
a bit, and the other factor, how interesting what is advertised is to you.

It isnt that hard to do in your head when its a total of only say 30 at most.

== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 4:07 pm
From: "hallerb@aol.com"

my first GPS garmin C340 is still in use today, it just got back from
a 16 hour trip of my neighbors.

I paid over 600 bucks august 2 years ago it paid for itself in time
saved by a few months.

My business is repairing roll laminators mostly for schools within
about a 100 miles of pittsburgh. its revalutionized my day saves tons
of time.

My software is 3 revisions ago, I am looking to buy a brand new unit,
they are much more accurate and sensitivew.

HONESTLY ITS THE BEST PURCHASE I MADE IN THE LAST 20 YEARS

I charge 100 bucks a hour for actual work time. Which sounds high till
you hear my competitor charges 250 bucks for the first hour.........

== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 8:10 pm
From: The Real Bev

Rod Speed wrote:

> root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> I dont even attach it to anything, just pick it up and enter the new address
>>> just before driving off from the previous stop, before I start the engine.

This extra time allows your competition just that much more time to get
there before you and snap up the exact thing you've been searching for
for MONTHS!

>> So you do the sequencing of the sites in your head?
>
> Yeah, basically.
>
> Like I said, I havent found any GPS that will do the routing for you
> and will allow for the difference between yard sales that do list a
> full street address so you can find them before the official start time,
> rather than the ones that just list the street name and use a sign
> or balloons etc to indicate the specific house when they open.
>
> And there is also the other variable of the start time that varys quite
> a bit, and the other factor, how interesting what is advertised is to you.
>
> It isnt that hard to do in your head when its a total of only say 30 at most.

We had 40 today. It takes 45 minutes to read the paper and mark the
map. The route changes during the day depending on a number of factors
which can't be anticipated beforehand. Cancellations are especially
annoying.

Proper strategy includes arriving at a good sale before the competition,
most of whom buy for resale, while minimizing the total driving distance.

And some people think this stuff is EASY!

--
Cheers, Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity
is not thus handicapped."
-- Elbert Hubbard, American author

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 8:41 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

The Real Bev <bashley101+usenet@gmail.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote
>> root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>> I dont even attach it to anything, just pick it up and enter the new address just before driving off from the
>>>> previous stop, before I start the engine.

> This extra time allows your competition just that much more time to get there before you and snap up the exact thing
> you've been searching for for MONTHS!

Nope, doesnt take any extra time over hunting for the street
number, and I havent searched for anything for MONTHS anyway.

And you get there much later than I do because you cripple along on a bike.

>>> So you do the sequencing of the sites in your head?

>> Yeah, basically.

>> Like I said, I havent found any GPS that will do the routing for you
>> and will allow for the difference between yard sales that do list a
>> full street address so you can find them before the official start
>> time, rather than the ones that just list the street name and use a
>> sign or balloons etc to indicate the specific house when they open.

>> And there is also the other variable of the start time that varys quite a bit, and the other factor, how interesting
>> what is advertised is to you.

>> It isnt that hard to do in your head when its a total of only say 30 at most.

> We had 40 today.

Yeah, but thats coz yours is a much bigger place than mine.

And your economy has tanked and mine hasnt.

> It takes 45 minutes to read the paper and mark the map.

Fark, wota dinosaur. Doesnt take me anything like that to
enter them in the GPS. Doesnt even take 15 secs per yard.

> The route changes during the day depending on a number of factors which can't be anticipated beforehand.

Like what ? How many nuns you run over and cripple on your bikes ?

> Cancellations are especially annoying.

We get very few of those.

> Proper strategy includes arriving at a good sale before the competition,

Yeah, found out yesterday that quite a few show up the day before. Havent tried that myself yet.

> most of whom buy for resale, while minimizing the total driving distance.

> And some people think this stuff is EASY!

And some make it hard for themselves by not using a GPS!!!

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TOPIC: Hussein Obama?s First 10 Executive Orders
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 5:21 am
From: clouddreamer

gringo wrote:
> Benj wrote:
>> On Oct 12, 11:41 am, George Grapman <sfgeor...@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>
>>
>>> A president can not enact or repeal legislation.
>>>
>>
>> Never heard of "executive orders" and the "unitary executive" I take
>> it. All a president needs to do is issue some decree (to be authorized
>> under an emergency) and then create the "emergency" to enable it.
>> Simple.
>>
>>
>>>>> ? Barack Obama enact laws to reinforce affirmative action by funneling
>>>>> money to ?women and minority-owned businesses.?
>>>>>
>>
>> Well, unless the women are religious, pro-life, pro-gun, honest, Cute,
>> Republican, pro-beauty pageant, pro-shaved armpits, or held elected
>> office as other than a Democrat.
>>
>> As for "minorities" anyone with even a drop of minority blood shall be
>> considered a full-blooded minority for the purposes of this money give-
>> away.
>>
>>
> racist. Why are you so afraid of black men? Is your dick that small?
>

<slaps forehead> THAT explains it all. Why didn't I see that????

Now it all makes sense....lol

--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 8:58 am
From: Jeff

JonL wrote:
> Rick wrote:
>> The left have been pushing loans on poor people who didn't have to put
>> any down payments on mortgages starting with Fanny may and Freddy Mac.
>> <TruthTeller@nospam.net> wrote in message
>
>
> Unscrupulous lenders
> have been pushing loans on poor people who didn't have to put any
> down payments on mortgages starting with Fanny may and Freddy Mac.
>
> Unscrupulous lenders
> then bundled,"securitized", and sold the loans to unsuspecting
> investors, both here and abroad.

Not to mention unscrupulous bond rating agencies, that gave AAA ratings
to junk.

But the whole thing was blown up by some very bad fiscal and
regulatory policy.

And if you think the housing meltdown is bad, just wait till you see
how the 400 trillion dollar derivative market unwinds. No government has
enough capital to touch that.

Jeff

>
>
>
>
>> news:QVHJk.1418$Rx2.412@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
>>>
>>> Listen up right wing asshole; There was no market meltdown until the
>>> right thinking of no regulation let greed run it into the ground.
>>>
>>> Now stop the lying and driveling. Your nonsense is old and boring.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In <8qGdnXrdCP6d32rVnZ2dnUVZ_rPinZ2d@comcast.com>, on 10/16/2008
>>> at 09:30 AM, George <george@nospam.invalid> said:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:
>>>>> In <Ru6dnw2d1nhkqwrvnz2dnuvz_hudnz2d@comcast.com>, on 10/16/2008
>>>>> at 08:32 AM, George <george@nospam.invalid> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:
>>>>>>> Stop pretending son. The democrats have done nothing in the past
>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>> to cause the meltdown. its all the result of right wing thinking
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> control.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sounds like the politicians have you right where they want you.
>>>>>> *BOTH*
>>>>>> sides are complicit in the greed and stupidity. It took a lot more
>>>>>> than
>>>>>> a few years to get us to where we are.
>>>>> Wrong goober. This is a crisis that comes from right wing
>>>>> thinking and
>>>>> control.
>>>> Nice touch, so you definitely confirmed you only drink blue kool-aid
>>>> and
>>>> aren't capable of any critical thinking.
>>>>> Stop lying about it and accept that fact that the right wing
>>>>> uncontrolled
>>>>> free-market thinking has destroyed the right wing.
>>>>>
>>>>> ...And its a good think for the world.
>>>>>
>>>>>> If there were a "fire everyone" choice this election I would be
>>>>>> first in
>>>>>> line at the polls.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is the next best choice. He's named Obama. You are against
>>>>> that.
>>>>> Thus, proving you are another right wing driveling nut.
>>>>>
>>>> Really? I said that?
>>
>>

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 8:19 pm
From: Observer

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:07:58 -0400, George <george@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>TruthTeller@nospam.net wrote:
>> Listen up right wing asshole; There was no market meltdown until the
>> right thinking of no regulation let greed run it into the ground.
>>
>> Now stop the lying and driveling. Your nonsense is old and boring.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>You are a good example of what happens when someone ODs on blue cool
>aid.

Damn it, folks. It's Kool-Aid (TM)

>All you can do is resort to clueless name calling. If you actually
>want to convince someone you need to offer well a well thought out
>rebuttal not the lame name calling which makes you look silly and
>totally invalidates your position.

Peak oil? I dunno.

Obama vs McCain? PEAK BULLSHIT!

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TOPIC: Demand that Obama release his college records! Where is the media?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 6:48 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <gctuoi$lq0$1@news.datemas.de>, Marsha <mas@xeb.net> wrote:

> Bob F wrote:
> > "Micky" <guuwwe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:e8be8a0a-c13f-48f2-8228-ef670071475d@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> >>Why is it important to see Obama's college records? Because the media
> >>has created fantasies around Obama on every issue. You should start
> >>dispelling them with the easiest one, i.e. the fantasy of Obama's
> >>"academic degrees and honors".
> >
> >
> > And McCain won't release his medical records. Certainly a VERY inmportant
> > consideration considering his VP nominee.
> >
>
> It's Obama who won't release any details. We get a one-page
> non-detailed summary from Obama's doc versus 1200 pages McCain allowed
> reporters to access. Obama's still smoking, BTW.

Who cares?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 8:24 am
From: George Grapman

Shawn Hirn wrote:
> In article <gctuoi$lq0$1@news.datemas.de>, Marsha <mas@xeb.net> wrote:
>
>> Bob F wrote:
>>> "Micky" <guuwwe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e8be8a0a-c13f-48f2-8228-ef670071475d@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> Why is it important to see Obama's college records? Because the media
>>>> has created fantasies around Obama on every issue. You should start
>>>> dispelling them with the easiest one, i.e. the fantasy of Obama's
>>>> "academic degrees and honors".
>>>
>>> And McCain won't release his medical records. Certainly a VERY inmportant
>>> consideration considering his VP nominee.
>>>
>> It's Obama who won't release any details. We get a one-page
>> non-detailed summary from Obama's doc versus 1200 pages McCain allowed
>> reporters to access. Obama's still smoking, BTW.
>
> Who cares?

Republicans who do not want to talk about the economy or the WMDs that
never existed,

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TOPIC: OT: Greatest potential for voting fraud from ACORN or Republican Party?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 6:57 am
From: Shawn Hirn

In article <slrngfiqh6.b7d.don@manx.misty.com>,
don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:

> In <ddc3e287-b792-431d-a07b-897eb2fdab08@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
> david7gable@aol.com wrote in part:
>
> >The following is replete with numerous references.
> >
> >We're hearing a lot about the trumped-up charges against ACORN these
> >days but very little about the massive voter suppression campaign
> >being orchestrated by the Republicans. The GOP is trying to purge
> >thousands of Democratic voters off the rolls in states like Ohio,
> >Florida, and Colorado.
>
> And somebody was circulating flyers in some of Philadelphia's black
> neighborhoods saying (falsely) that people with outstanding warrants and
> unpaid old traffic tickets will be arrested if they show up at their
> polling place.
>
> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

Yup. I have a friend who's on Philadelphia's non-partisan Committee of
70 election watchdog group. She told me about those flyers two weeks
ago. Its an obvious Republican ploy to keep people away from voting.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 9:02 am
From: Dennis

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:57:44 -0400, Shawn Hirn <srhi@comcast.net>
wrote:

>In article <slrngfiqh6.b7d.don@manx.misty.com>,
> don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
>
>> And somebody was circulating flyers in some of Philadelphia's black
>> neighborhoods saying (falsely) that people with outstanding warrants and
>> unpaid old traffic tickets will be arrested if they show up at their
>> polling place.
>>
>> - Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
>
>Yup. I have a friend who's on Philadelphia's non-partisan Committee of
>70 election watchdog group. She told me about those flyers two weeks
>ago. Its an obvious Republican ploy to keep people away from voting.

I'm not a repubican, but somehow I have a hard time getting worked up
over the notion of discouraging fugitives who are also so stupid they
fall for this scam from voting.

Dennis (evil)
--
An inherent weakness of a pure democracy is that half
the voters are below average intelligence.

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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 12:30 pm
From: Derald

Kellog's "Cocoa Crispies" in the new package has far less of the
brown "chocolate" coating than the previous version and the flavor is
far less reminiscent of chocolate (sigh); not that it ever really _was_
very close, mind you....

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 2:21 pm
From: turtlelover

Derald wrote:
> Kellog's "Cocoa Crispies" in the new package has far less of the
> brown "chocolate" coating than the previous version and the flavor is
> far less reminiscent of chocolate (sigh); not that it ever really _was_
> very close, mind you....

We've never bought them, so I can't give a review -- but I do believe you.

Does the box indicate "New and improved"? I cringe whenever I see that notation, because it generally means "changed for the worse" (by consumer standards).

Cheers,
Turtlelover

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 2:38 pm
From: Jeff

turtlelover wrote:
> Derald wrote:
>> Kellog's "Cocoa Crispies" in the new package has far less of the
>> brown "chocolate" coating than the previous version and the flavor is
>> far less reminiscent of chocolate (sigh); not that it ever really _was_
>> very close, mind you....
>
>
> We've never bought them, so I can't give a review -- but I do believe you.
>
> Does the box indicate "New and improved"? I cringe whenever I see that
> notation, because it generally means "changed for the worse" (by
> consumer standards).

I've been following the pricing of the Kroger apple juice. I used to
buy a good bit of it. Sometime back I saw it prominently displayed with
words like "Cost Cutter". The had just raised the price 19 cents.

Yesterday, I once more saw a prominent (end of aisle) store display
and sure enough, the price had gone up again.

Jeff

>
>
> Cheers,
> Turtlelover

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 3:46 pm
From: Gordon

Derald <derald@invalid.net> wrote in news:haydnZUt58aBtmfVnZ2dnUVZ_h-
dnZ2d@earthlink.com:

> Kellog's "Cocoa Crispies" in the new package has far less of the
> brown "chocolate" coating than the previous version and the flavor is
> far less reminiscent of chocolate (sigh); not that it ever really _was_
> very close, mind you....

And it's probaly packaged in a 10oz box.

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 6:26 pm
From: George

Jeff wrote:
> turtlelover wrote:
>> Derald wrote:
>>> Kellog's "Cocoa Crispies" in the new package has far less of the
>>> brown "chocolate" coating than the previous version and the flavor is
>>> far less reminiscent of chocolate (sigh); not that it ever really _was_
>>> very close, mind you....
>>
>>
>> We've never bought them, so I can't give a review -- but I do believe
>> you.
>>
>> Does the box indicate "New and improved"? I cringe whenever I see
>> that notation, because it generally means "changed for the worse" (by
>> consumer standards).
>
> I've been following the pricing of the Kroger apple juice. I used to
> buy a good bit of it. Sometime back I saw it prominently displayed with
> words like "Cost Cutter". The had just raised the price 19 cents.
>
> Yesterday, I once more saw a prominent (end of aisle) store display
> and sure enough, the price had gone up again.
>
> Jeff
>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Turtlelover

I almost bought cranberry juice blend the other day. It was "Ocean
Spray" brand in the usual packaging except I noticed it said
"Cranjuice" instead of "Cranberry" as I was putting it in the cart. It
was only 15% juice and a blend of cheaper juice and cranberry juice.

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 10:35 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)

In article <UKqdnZTACZDaymfVnZ2dnUVZ_uKdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Jeff wrote:
>turtlelover wrote:
>> Derald wrote:
>>> Kellog's "Cocoa Crispies" in the new package has far less of the
>>> brown "chocolate" coating than the previous version and the flavor is
>>> far less reminiscent of chocolate (sigh); not that it ever really _was_
>>> very close, mind you....
>>
>>
>> We've never bought them, so I can't give a review -- but I do believe you.
>>
>> Does the box indicate "New and improved"? I cringe whenever I see that
>> notation, because it generally means "changed for the worse" (by
>> consumer standards).
>
> I've been following the pricing of the Kroger apple juice. I used to
>buy a good bit of it. Sometime back I saw it prominently displayed with
>words like "Cost Cutter". The had just raised the price 19 cents.
>
> Yesterday, I once more saw a prominent (end of aisle) store display
>and sure enough, the price had gone up again.

I have seen a supermarket game where they implement a price increase and
call it a "price cut" or "new lower price" or similar BS.

How that is done: Raise the price by a major jump, and *partially*
retreat from the price jump as soon as the jumped-up price qualifies as
"everyday price". I wonder if that is a week or a day or what.

And those end-of-aisle displays - I know well that those ain't always
stuff that they are trying to get rid of. I have found quite a bit of
those merely being displays of where there is profit to be made by pushing
products that get pushed well by such means.

Sometimes the end-of-aisle stuff is at price almost-loss-leader-low so
as to keep shoppers' eyes and brains having to work at full power! One
supermarket chain that I like to complain about (FreshGrocer) actually
sometimes has raisin bran cereal at truly decent prices at an end-of-aisle
display (in my experience)! They also have raisin bran at semi-decent
prices fairly frequently (in my experience)!

- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)

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TOPIC: Tired of the Market Tanking? Worried About Your Job? Demand a smarter
policy!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 5:40 pm
From: wismel@yahoo.com

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 14:57:27 -0700 (PDT), Shared Growth
<Matt@sharedeconomicgrowth.org> wrote:

>So, we've got the $700 Billion bail-out that has done zip to restore
>confidence. Would you prefer a plan that would pull hundreds of
>billions of dollars of new cash into our economy, boost returns on
>your hard hit IRAs, 401(k)s, and equity mutual funds by up to 54%,
>bring new high quality jobs to America, and not add a dollar to the
>deficit? Check out http://www.sharedeconomicgrowth.org/home.html and
>go to the Do Something page to tell your congresspeople that you want
>smart responses, not more taxpayer funded bail-outs.

Agreed.

ted

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TOPIC: A nation of cowards.
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 5:56 pm
From: wismel@yahoo.com

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 19:46:33 -0500, Gun Woman
<Gun_Woman@guns-notspam.com> wrote:

>http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=177117&page=1
>
>Never ever give up your rights!
>
>http://rkba.org/comment/cowards.html

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TOPIC: Hungry Children...
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 6:06 pm
From: chriseric777@hotmail.com

Its that time of the year again, our food bank and ministry funds are
running extremely low.
We are in need of help to get us through these difficult Winter
months. Food and Rental prices have risen, and so has hunger, both
Physical and Spiritual in our community. We continue to see an
increase in single Mothers with Children in extreme poverty, often on
the verge of homelessness. We need Your Help !! Demand for Food
Assistance has risen dramatically, while donations have reduced to a
trickle. Our Volunteers are now buying food out of their own pocket !,
as well as putting in hundreds of hours ! Please view and rate our
videos, to boost ourviews and search engine rating. Do you have a
blog, myspace, Facebook or web site you would consider blessing us,
and embedding this video ?? Please keep us in your prayers !! , so we
can continue to feed the Hungry Children and Families in our area, and
to "To honor
God by seeing the face of Christ in every person we serve"

http://www.youtube.com/user/RLF777

We are asking local businesses, charities, and individuals to please
consider our Christian food bank ministry, to help us honor God by
seeing the face of Christ in every person we serve, and continue to
bless others, in Jesus name!

We have been working hard to defend the constitutional rights of the
poor and homeless men, women, children, and veterans here in Redding
and Shasta County. Here is a recent radio interview discussing one of
the civil rights issues.

"http://www.ijpr.org/audio/Homeless%20Belongings%205-31-07.mp3"

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Oct 18 2008 9:27 pm
From: "(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) -- NO FACTS Support the RRR Cult's Loathsome
Agendas!"

On Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:00:52 -0700 (PDT),
tg <D2Zabcdef@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Once upon a time in a village, a man appeared and announced to the
> villagers that he would buy monkeys for £10 each. The villagers,
> seeing that there were many monkeys around, went out to the forest,
> and started catching them.
>
> The man bought thousands at £10 and as supply started to diminish, the
> villagers stopped their effort. He then announced that he would now
> buy at £20. This renewed the efforts of the villagers and they started
> catching monkeys again.
>
> Soon the supply diminished even further and people started going back
> to their farms. The offer increased to £25 each and the supply of
> monkeys became so little that it was an effort to even see a monkey,
> let alone catch it!
>
> The man now announced that he would buy monkeys at £50. However,
> since he had to go to the city on some business, his assistant would now
> buy on behalf of him.
>
> In the absence of the man, the assistant told the villagers, "Look at
> all these monkeys in the big cage that the man has collected. I will
> sell them to you at £35 and when the man returns from the city, you
> can sell them to him for £50 each."
>
> The villagers hurried round with their savings and bought all the
> monkeys.
>
> Then they never saw the man nor his assistant again, only bloody
> monkeys everywhere!

For the sake of us Americans who barely use the word "bloody" in
the British context, it might be noteworthy to mention that no monkeys
were slaughtered in the course of all of this. :)

> Now you have a better understanding of how the stock market works.

Interesting analogy.

>http://www.bnp.org.uk/2008/10/the-stock-market-explained/

-- (¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯)

xanadu222@mchsi.com -- To E-Mail me.
http://www.roadrat.com -- Learn how to get PAID to TRAVEL.
http://apifar.blogspot.com -- Great TACTICS to Fight Bigotry.
http://pro-christian.blogspot.com -- Christianity *vs.* Bigotry.
And with Election Day looming, THIS site is a MUST:
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

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MORE THAN EVER BEFORE...
"It IS The SUPREME COURT, Stupid!"

Earl Weber ("duke") <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote, 10-8-08 --

> I know how the system is supposed to work. But we have
> too many judges that decide based not on the Constitution
> but on their version of social justice.

There can't possibly BE too many egalitarian judges, since ALL
of them are constrained to rule *within* the parameters of the
Constitution. NO judge can *contradict* the Constitution. In
any given case, there is only so much potential "gray area" wiggle
room within which one must rule, or contradiction would occur.

The BEST judges are the fair-minded, sensible, and compas-
sionate ones who rule as close as they possibly can to the param-
eter that affords the most personal freedom for individuals. As
an envelope is defined by it's edges, it's a case of staying inside
of the envelope so as to still be mailable, with the *content*
always being snugly against the edge called "liberty."

Individual freedom should be PARAMOUNT, and NO President
or Senate should EVER be responsible for appointing/confirming
a Justice that doesn't make it unequivocally *clear* that he/she
will steadfastly seek to defend and support it to the fullest extent
possible. There is NOTHING good to be gained by installing a
repressive Justice. That is one of the most *harmful* actions that
a President or Senator can do to his/her country.

We MUST **keep** EGALITARIAN judges in the majority in
the U.S. Supreme Court. And to do that, we MUST elect Obama.

For more important information and talking points, go here:

http://apifar.blogspot.com/2007/11/vital-warning-unseen-unheeded-now.html

http://apifar.blogspot.com/2007/12/surreal-alternate-reality-if-democrats.html

The above articles are clear, concise, totally factual, and are
HIGHLY useful and thought-provoking.

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