Monday, January 24, 2011

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Today's topics:

* California claims it's "broke"? Yet illegal alien parents collect $600
million+ for their anchor babies ($30 million increase from 2009) - 1 messages,
1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/cbe811367ab17cea?hl=en
* Is God having fun watching us suffer? - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b9b963e08f028944?hl=en
* Depreciation - 14 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/42605948e926b649?hl=en
* Hell of a time getting a 'cork' out of wine bottle - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/cb1eecc89d9a711c?hl=en

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TOPIC: California claims it's "broke"? Yet illegal alien parents collect $600
million+ for their anchor babies ($30 million increase from 2009)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/cbe811367ab17cea?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Jan 22 2011 3:55 pm
From: Tim Crowley


On Jan 21, 7:34 am, Werner <whetz...@mac.com> wrote:
> On Jan 21, 9:03 am, % <perc...@gmail.not> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 04:54:39 -0800 (PST), brad herschel<bradhersc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >And in a single county! First step would be to repeal that federal law
> > >that requires hospitals to accept all emergency room
> > >patients. Triage nurses should reject illegals except to stabilize
> > >their condition, then a swift bus trip to the border.
>
> > That makes sense and the first person to show up without insurance
> > will be turned away regardless of where they come from? Brilliant,
> > just brilliant.  Once all those who need medical care are dead, we can
> > do away with all the doctors and hospitals permanently.  You might be
> > able to scare even the elderly out of health care with threats that
> > they really aren't getting any,  but we both know you don't stand any
> > chance of repealing that law.  
>
> Once freeloaders consume resources people will be turned away because
> the resources will be used up. You are beginning to see it now.


No your''re not. You're lying.

hint: hide.

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TOPIC: Is God having fun watching us suffer?
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 8:09 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"


This is no admission there's a God just a deep insight into the
psychology of the character, so to speak. Then let's assume there's a
God that could stop suffering, but he keeps himself amused watching us
suffer. The reasoning goes like this:

We suffer, we pray to God and he feels important. Not that he will do
a thing about it, but he is entertained the way we enjoy a terror
movie. Sick as it may be many people do.

This is the type of God that is running the world and we are providing
a sort of 'reality show,' where all kinds of bad things happen in
order to keep the ratings up.

Who would keep the ratings of religion high if people were happy? I
just wonder, you know.


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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 10:09 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"


On Jan 23, 1:25 am, Kadaitcha Man
<bony.russian.spurt...@alt.sex.ads.affectionate.breasts> wrote:
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle, how
> befuddled and dread-bolted art thou. Ye frothy dwarf, thou art a most
> notable coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise
> breaker, the owner of not one good quality. Ye bombinated:
>
> > This is no admission there's a God
>
> Well, neither is my response. It's mere opinion, based on quantum mechanics.
>
> > just a deep insight into the
>
> > psychology of the character, so to speak. Then let's assume there's a
> > God that could stop suffering, but he keeps himself amused watching us
> > suffer. The reasoning goes like this:
>
> > We suffer, we pray to God and he feels important. Not that he will do
> > a thing about it, but he is entertained the way we enjoy a terror
> > movie. Sick as it may be many people do.
>
> Yes, a lot of people think that way, but none the above is necessary for
> your proposition below to be given consideration:
>
> > This is the type of God that is running the world and we are providing
> > a sort of 'reality show,' where all kinds of bad things happen in
> > order to keep the ratings up.
>
> Many a true word is spoken in jest.
>
> As Xan Du asked last week... Are we the rats in a maze of a proto-God
> writing its master's thesis?
>
> My response was 'possibly', and I added that the subject of the
> proto-God's thesis was likely to be its very self.
>
> It's not absurd to think of ourselves as being rats in a cosmic maze or
> playing ourselves in a cosmic reality show, or even being actors in a
> cosmic pantomime all playing our assigned roles on the stage of life.
>
> I suspect, though do not necessarily believe, that the latter is true,
> that we may be actors in a cosmic pantomime all playing our assigned
> roles on the stage of life.
>
> > Who would keep the ratings of religion high if people were happy? I
> > just wonder, you know.
>
> If quantum mechanics has any credence then the ratings of orthodox
> religion (Christianity, Judaism and Islam) are going to drop through the
> floor and never stop falling. Ever. It is possible that contemporary
> science is leading the way to a new religion based on the scientific
> principles of QM.
>
> I speculate that the new religion will be fundamentally based on
> mystical, Buddhist and Hindu principles, which, at first glance, seem to
> be somewhat in accord with QM. The problem is man will do what man has
> been wont to do for most of history - invent all sorts of bullshit
> ceremonies, incantations, proscriptions, love feasts and ways to make
> lots of money out of it.
>
> Explaining your idea of us being in a reality show isn't difficult either:
>
> QM requires an underlying sea of unbounded consciousness (nonlocality)
> otherwise it isn't possible to even formulate the laws of QM. We are,
> apparently, a part of the one underlying consciousness, and not separate
> from it.
>
> Our idea of individuality and our feelings of separateness from the
> world around us arise from a combined illusion created by our senses,
> which creates the feeling of separateness from the physical world, and a
> quantum system called a tangled hierarchy, which creates the illusion in
> our heads of individualised self-reference... the "I" of each of us.
>
> So, if the above explanation is assumed to be true for the sake of
> discussion only, the question is begged, what of the purpose of life?
>
> The QM sea of consciousness is learning, and if we are one with it, not
> separate from it, then our purpose in life is to learn too. Enter, stage
> right, Xan's idea of a proto-God.
>
> From one perspective it's as wacky as all fuck, but from another
> perspective it makes sense when viewed in the light of modern physics,
> not 300yr old, now falsified, Newtonian physics.
>
> It makes sense, but to be honest, unless quantum mechanics provides more
> proof, I'll drag myself kicking and screaming across the burning sands
> of the Sahara desert before I'll believe that the quantum theory of
> consciousness is properly describing reality.
>

You have left me a little confused by such quantum theory, and I think
even Einstein would have been so, even when he sometimes toyed with
crazy ideas.

Anyway, I think the whole thing is about THE RATINGS, and we must take
into account the we need to move beyond the physical realm and create
CHARACTERS, as fictitious as they may be. We need, as any epic drama
out there, GOOD GUYS & BAD GUYS as well as a good dose of fantasy.

The JUNGLE provides all those elements and more. It's also sensual
(what straight man doesn't want to enter the jungle of a young woman)
and provides all the mysticism of the Free Spirits of the Jungle, who
may be people like Mark Twain or Bob Marley.

We are fighting the evil King of the Jungle who wants to control the
monkey (and the money), but the monkey is teasing the lion until the
lion realizes he's dumb and changes the jungle to make the monkey
happy. Our motto could simply be, 'HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY,' which
expresses an essential need of all monkeys to monkey around. (This
translates into, for example, riding a "monkey bike" without being
terrorized.)

So QUANTUM MECHANICS VS. WISDOM OF THE JUNGLE. We need to test those
ideas in the real world, but I tell you ladies like the monkey with
the banana while the guys want the idea of entering the jungle, if you
know what I mean.

I leave here you with a Free Spirit...

(by the way, a good thing going for the JUNGLE THEORY OF THINGS is
that it's OK to smoke pot)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanCLS_hIo4


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 7:16 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the prophet of the deep jungle"


On Jan 23, 9:45 pm, Duke of Omnium <duke.of.omn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 23, 9:24 pm, G Chris <chrisgle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Let's suppose God had us all in a cage in a sterile lab and kept us
> > from all harm while carefully and continuously saving us from the
> > consequences of our own stupidity as we went merrily along doing
> > whatever the heck we wanted. Sound like an attractive existence? What
> > would that make us? Pets.
> > But, we're not pets, God created us as free beings, and lets us take
> > our take our lumps as we stumble our way through life. He gave us big
> > brains, reason and rationality, and His Law; what more could a
> > 'father' do for his children; we rejected Him, after all.
>
> Don't project. Just because you rejected your god-thingy doesn't mean
> the rest of us did. After all, your god-thingy never actually shows
> up, so we didn't even have an opportunity to reject him.
>
> A "father" who never shows up. Gee. I hope you don't have kids
> yourself, if that's your idea of good parenting.

Oh God, you sure make me laugh. We were riding bikes today and thought
of being protected by God where we fell off the bike and we would be
suspended in the air by his power.

Is that the way it is in Heaven? Don't tell me there's no bikes in
Heaven, please.

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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 8:11 am
From: Al


On Jan 21, 2:21 pm, BIGtitties <clitte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I doubt I'll own my 2010 Accent 4-door long enough to determine
> longevity/depreciation.
>
> I bought a new 2010 Accent two months ago, but, being old-school,
> didn't think to look
> for or ask about a TEMPERATURE GAUGE at time of purchase.
>
> And the salesman didn't tell me about this missing instrument,
> either.  Since that day he's been hard to contact.
>
> Intentional?
>
> I'll probably never know.
>
> But the absence of an in-dash analog gauge has made me uncomfortable,
> and skeptical.  Like what ELSE DOESN'T this motor vehicle have?

My GMC Sierra has all the gauges and I keep an eye on them. If I were
sitting in the seat of something I test drove, I would immediately
notice what gauges it did have available. I assume you did test drive
the vehicle before purchasing it. Nobody hid anything from you. Having
said all that, many people don't observe the gauges anyway.
Eliminating them keeps the costs down. Modern engine controls do a
very good job of protecting the engine and warning the driver. Chances
are good that you would observe a warning light in plenty of time to
take action. Always good to keep an eye on fluid levels and look under
the vehicle when pulling away from parking spots.


== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 9:51 am
From: dsi1


On 1/23/2011 6:11 AM, Al wrote:
> On Jan 21, 2:21 pm, BIGtitties<clitte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I doubt I'll own my 2010 Accent 4-door long enough to determine
>> longevity/depreciation.
>>
>> I bought a new 2010 Accent two months ago, but, being old-school,
>> didn't think to look
>> for or ask about a TEMPERATURE GAUGE at time of purchase.
>>
>> And the salesman didn't tell me about this missing instrument,
>> either. Since that day he's been hard to contact.
>>
>> Intentional?
>>
>> I'll probably never know.
>>
>> But the absence of an in-dash analog gauge has made me uncomfortable,
>> and skeptical. Like what ELSE DOESN'T this motor vehicle have?
>
> My GMC Sierra has all the gauges and I keep an eye on them. If I were
> sitting in the seat of something I test drove, I would immediately
> notice what gauges it did have available. I assume you did test drive
> the vehicle before purchasing it. Nobody hid anything from you. Having
> said all that, many people don't observe the gauges anyway.
> Eliminating them keeps the costs down. Modern engine controls do a
> very good job of protecting the engine and warning the driver. Chances
> are good that you would observe a warning light in plenty of time to
> take action. Always good to keep an eye on fluid levels and look under
> the vehicle when pulling away from parking spots.

You're right that most people, including the OP, don't notice the
gauges. Most don't care either. They only think that they care. The only
thing I care about is a working AC. If that works good and the car is
half-way decent, I'm happy.


== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 9:52 am
From: The Real Bev


On 01/23/11 08:11, Al wrote:

> On Jan 21, 2:21 pm, BIGtitties<clitte...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> But the absence of an in-dash analog gauge has made me uncomfortable,
>> and skeptical. Like what ELSE DOESN'T this motor vehicle have?
>
> My GMC Sierra has all the gauges and I keep an eye on them. If I were
> sitting in the seat of something I test drove, I would immediately
> notice what gauges it did have available. I assume you did test drive
> the vehicle before purchasing it. Nobody hid anything from you. Having
> said all that, many people don't observe the gauges anyway.
> Eliminating them keeps the costs down. Modern engine controls do a
> very good job of protecting the engine and warning the driver. Chances
> are good that you would observe a warning light in plenty of time to
> take action.

My '68 LTD had a HOT warning light. It came on just after I saw steam
issuing from under the hood and the engine died.

My 88 Caddy has an actual digital temperature reading, but it's buried
in a hierarchy of stuff that you have to push buttons to get to,
removing your eyes from the road. I just leave it set there, but every
once in a while the LOW WASHER FLUID warning over-writes it and I have
to bring it back by hand.

I have NO washer fluid, the bottom is broken out of the container.
Sensors and controls aren't all they're cracked up to be, and never were.

> Always good to keep an eye on fluid levels and look under
> the vehicle when pulling away from parking spots.

--
Ch rs, B v
=======================================
My f ck ng k yb rd h s l st ts v w ls.


== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 12:54 pm
From: Jeff


Irwell <hook@yahoo.com> wrote in news:b6fr0u060hul$.fjrzbl2qhr5c$.dlg@
40tude.net:

> On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:21:14 -0800 (PST), BIGtitties wrote:
>
>> I doubt I'll own my 2010 Accent 4-door long enough to determine
>> longevity/depreciation.
>>
>> I bought a new 2010 Accent two months ago, but, being old-school,
>> didn't think to look
>> for or ask about a TEMPERATURE GAUGE at time of purchase.
>>
>> And the salesman didn't tell me about this missing instrument,
>> either. Since that day he's been hard to contact.
>>
>> Intentional?
>>
>> I'll probably never know.
>>
>> But the absence of an in-dash analog gauge has made me uncomfortable,
>> and skeptical. Like what ELSE DOESN'T this motor vehicle have?
>
> Carburretor, starting handle, ammeter, oil pressure gage,
> wind-up windows, etc.etc.
>
OP, try looking at the tachometer's lower right quadrant.
http://autos.yahoo.com/hyundai/accent/2010/gls-4-
door/pictures/dashboard/5.html


== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 1:25 pm
From: dsi1


On 1/23/2011 7:52 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>
> My '68 LTD had a HOT warning light. It came on just after I saw steam
> issuing from under the hood and the engine died.
>
> My 88 Caddy has an actual digital temperature reading, but it's buried
> in a hierarchy of stuff that you have to push buttons to get to,
> removing your eyes from the road. I just leave it set there, but every
> once in a while the LOW WASHER FLUID warning over-writes it and I have
> to bring it back by hand.
>
> I have NO washer fluid, the bottom is broken out of the container.
> Sensors and controls aren't all they're cracked up to be, and never were.
>
>> Always good to keep an eye on fluid levels and look under
>> the vehicle when pulling away from parking spots.
>

Cadillac will put stuff in the car that's pretty distracting. I used to
set the digital display on the instantaneous MPG readout and would watch
it go up and down. It went up to 70 MPG. Whoppie! Hopefully they've made
the new ones simpler and easier to set so idiots like me don't spend as
much time futzing with it while driving.


== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 1:33 pm
From: The Real Bev


On 01/23/11 13:25, dsi1 wrote:

> On 1/23/2011 7:52 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>> My '68 LTD had a HOT warning light. It came on just after I saw steam
>> issuing from under the hood and the engine died.
>>
>> My 88 Caddy has an actual digital temperature reading, but it's buried
>> in a hierarchy of stuff that you have to push buttons to get to,
>> removing your eyes from the road. I just leave it set there, but every
>> once in a while the LOW WASHER FLUID warning over-writes it and I have
>> to bring it back by hand.
>>
>> I have NO washer fluid, the bottom is broken out of the container.
>> Sensors and controls aren't all they're cracked up to be, and never were.
>>
>>> Always good to keep an eye on fluid levels and look under
>>> the vehicle when pulling away from parking spots.
>
> Cadillac will put stuff in the car that's pretty distracting. I used to
> set the digital display on the instantaneous MPG readout and would watch
> it go up and down. It went up to 70 MPG. Whoppie! Hopefully they've made
> the new ones simpler and easier to set so idiots like me don't spend as
> much time futzing with it while driving.

This one has smallish green letters (requiring reading glasses) and is
located about 2 feet below eye level and a foot to the right. It's
nearly impossible to read during the day. The buttons are tiny, and
require higher-power reading glasses. You can see only one thing at a
time, requiring one or more button pushes to change. I suppose this was
relatively new technology in 1987, but it sucks badly.

--
Cheers,
Bev
=============================================================
"What's truly sad is that your vote counts the same as mine."
-- S. Brown

== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 1:48 pm
From: Vic Smith


On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:51:30 -1000, dsi1 <dsi1@usenet-news.net> wrote:

>
>You're right that most people, including the OP, don't notice the
>gauges. Most don't care either. They only think that they care. The only
>thing I care about is a working AC. If that works good and the car is
>half-way decent, I'm happy.
>

Disagree. When starting off on a frigid day I look at my temp gauge
so I know I can stop shivering.

--Vic


== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 2:06 pm
From: Al


On Jan 23, 3:54 pm, Jeff <j...@donotspam.me> wrote:
> Irwell <h...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:b6fr0u060hul$.fjrzbl2qhr5c$.dlg@
> 40tude.net:
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:21:14 -0800 (PST), BIGtitties wrote:
>
> >> I doubt I'll own my 2010 Accent 4-door long enough to determine
> >> longevity/depreciation.
>
> >> I bought a new 2010 Accent two months ago, but, being old-school,
> >> didn't think to look
> >> for or ask about a TEMPERATURE GAUGE at time of purchase.
>
> >> And the salesman didn't tell me about this missing instrument,
> >> either.  Since that day he's been hard to contact.
>
> >> Intentional?
>
> >> I'll probably never know.
>
> >> But the absence of an in-dash analog gauge has made me uncomfortable,
> >> and skeptical.  Like what ELSE DOESN'T this motor vehicle have?
>
> > Carburretor, starting handle, ammeter, oil pressure gage,
> > wind-up windows, etc.etc.
>
> OP, try looking at the tachometer's lower right quadrant.http://autos.yahoo.com/hyundai/accent/2010/gls-4-
> door/pictures/dashboard/5.html

You are right. I just looked for the 2010 Accent dashboard and the
analog temp gauge is clearly there in the lower left. Leads me to
think the OP has problems.


== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 2:10 pm
From: dsi1


On 1/23/2011 11:33 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 01/23/11 13:25, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2011 7:52 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>
>>> My '68 LTD had a HOT warning light. It came on just after I saw steam
>>> issuing from under the hood and the engine died.
>>>
>>> My 88 Caddy has an actual digital temperature reading, but it's buried
>>> in a hierarchy of stuff that you have to push buttons to get to,
>>> removing your eyes from the road. I just leave it set there, but every
>>> once in a while the LOW WASHER FLUID warning over-writes it and I have
>>> to bring it back by hand.
>>>
>>> I have NO washer fluid, the bottom is broken out of the container.
>>> Sensors and controls aren't all they're cracked up to be, and never
>>> were.
>>>
>>>> Always good to keep an eye on fluid levels and look under
>>>> the vehicle when pulling away from parking spots.
>>
>> Cadillac will put stuff in the car that's pretty distracting. I used to
>> set the digital display on the instantaneous MPG readout and would watch
>> it go up and down. It went up to 70 MPG. Whoppie! Hopefully they've made
>> the new ones simpler and easier to set so idiots like me don't spend as
>> much time futzing with it while driving.
>
> This one has smallish green letters (requiring reading glasses) and is
> located about 2 feet below eye level and a foot to the right. It's
> nearly impossible to read during the day. The buttons are tiny, and
> require higher-power reading glasses. You can see only one thing at a
> time, requiring one or more button pushes to change. I suppose this was
> relatively new technology in 1987, but it sucks badly.
>

There's a lot of computer stuff from the 80's that we'd consider pretty
primitive today. Cadillac pretty much had the most advanced electronic
multi-function display dashboard of it's time. I inherited my 87 Seville
from my father-in-law when he passed away. It was pretty amazing
technology. I didn't even know they made FWD cars with V8s. It drove
ass-low because the gas bag suspension in the back had lost all it's
wind and the air pump went South. It was a super-duper neat car until
most everything broke. That's the breaks.


== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 2:25 pm
From: dsi1


On 1/23/2011 11:48 AM, Vic Smith wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 07:51:30 -1000, dsi1<dsi1@usenet-news.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> You're right that most people, including the OP, don't notice the
>> gauges. Most don't care either. They only think that they care. The only
>> thing I care about is a working AC. If that works good and the car is
>> half-way decent, I'm happy.
>>
>
> Disagree. When starting off on a frigid day I look at my temp gauge
> so I know I can stop shivering.
>
> --Vic

My Sonata comes with seat warmers for frigid days. Unfortunately, I live
in Hawaii and the damn place never gets cold enough. We don't have any
fog here either so I can't really test my fog lamps. The best that I can
do is turn them on at night so I can look like one of those dicks
driving a BMW. :-)


== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 2:47 pm
From: "Ed Pawlowski"


?
"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> Disagree. When starting off on a frigid day I look at my temp gauge
> so I know I can stop shivering.
>
> --Vic

You'd have loved my Buick Regal. The gauge would peg hot as soon as you
turned the key. No shiver needed.

== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 6:06 pm
From: The Real Bev


On 01/23/11 14:10, dsi1 wrote:

> On 1/23/2011 11:33 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 01/23/11 13:25, dsi1 wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/23/2011 7:52 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My '68 LTD had a HOT warning light. It came on just after I saw steam
>>>> issuing from under the hood and the engine died.
>>>>
>>>> My 88 Caddy has an actual digital temperature reading, but it's buried
>>>> in a hierarchy of stuff that you have to push buttons to get to,
>>>> removing your eyes from the road. I just leave it set there, but every
>>>> once in a while the LOW WASHER FLUID warning over-writes it and I have
>>>> to bring it back by hand.
>>>>
>>>> I have NO washer fluid, the bottom is broken out of the container.
>>>> Sensors and controls aren't all they're cracked up to be, and never
>>>> were.
>>>>
>>>>> Always good to keep an eye on fluid levels and look under
>>>>> the vehicle when pulling away from parking spots.
>>>
>>> Cadillac will put stuff in the car that's pretty distracting. I used to
>>> set the digital display on the instantaneous MPG readout and would watch
>>> it go up and down. It went up to 70 MPG. Whoppie! Hopefully they've made
>>> the new ones simpler and easier to set so idiots like me don't spend as
>>> much time futzing with it while driving.
>>
>> This one has smallish green letters (requiring reading glasses) and is
>> located about 2 feet below eye level and a foot to the right. It's
>> nearly impossible to read during the day. The buttons are tiny, and
>> require higher-power reading glasses. You can see only one thing at a
>> time, requiring one or more button pushes to change. I suppose this was
>> relatively new technology in 1987, but it sucks badly.
>
> There's a lot of computer stuff from the 80's that we'd consider pretty
> primitive today. Cadillac pretty much had the most advanced electronic
> multi-function display dashboard of it's time. I inherited my 87 Seville
> from my father-in-law when he passed away. It was pretty amazing
> technology. I didn't even know they made FWD cars with V8s. It drove
> ass-low because the gas bag suspension in the back had lost all it's
> wind and the air pump went South.

Friend has a 92 caddy with load-leveling shocks. Who needs shit like
that? When they go bad they run all the time and wipe out the battery.
He hoped to replace them with ordinary shocks, but they don't make
them. I'm SOOO glad my mom's car (now mine) doesn't have those.

> It was a super-duper neat car until
> most everything broke. That's the breaks.

This one can't lock the passenger door with the driver-side switch, and
the passenger window makes gear-grinding noises at the very top and when
it's open about 6 inches. I gave it a new radio, so maybe it won't
break anything else. Although, come to think of it, the window problem
started AFTER I got the radio...

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that would correspond to." -- Trygve Lode


== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 6:42 pm
From: dsi1


On 1/23/2011 4:06 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 01/23/11 14:10, dsi1 wrote:
>
>> On 1/23/2011 11:33 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> On 01/23/11 13:25, dsi1 wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/23/2011 7:52 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My '68 LTD had a HOT warning light. It came on just after I saw steam
>>>>> issuing from under the hood and the engine died.
>>>>>
>>>>> My 88 Caddy has an actual digital temperature reading, but it's buried
>>>>> in a hierarchy of stuff that you have to push buttons to get to,
>>>>> removing your eyes from the road. I just leave it set there, but every
>>>>> once in a while the LOW WASHER FLUID warning over-writes it and I have
>>>>> to bring it back by hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have NO washer fluid, the bottom is broken out of the container.
>>>>> Sensors and controls aren't all they're cracked up to be, and never
>>>>> were.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Always good to keep an eye on fluid levels and look under
>>>>>> the vehicle when pulling away from parking spots.
>>>>
>>>> Cadillac will put stuff in the car that's pretty distracting. I used to
>>>> set the digital display on the instantaneous MPG readout and would
>>>> watch
>>>> it go up and down. It went up to 70 MPG. Whoppie! Hopefully they've
>>>> made
>>>> the new ones simpler and easier to set so idiots like me don't spend as
>>>> much time futzing with it while driving.
>>>
>>> This one has smallish green letters (requiring reading glasses) and is
>>> located about 2 feet below eye level and a foot to the right. It's
>>> nearly impossible to read during the day. The buttons are tiny, and
>>> require higher-power reading glasses. You can see only one thing at a
>>> time, requiring one or more button pushes to change. I suppose this was
>>> relatively new technology in 1987, but it sucks badly.
>>
>> There's a lot of computer stuff from the 80's that we'd consider pretty
>> primitive today. Cadillac pretty much had the most advanced electronic
>> multi-function display dashboard of it's time. I inherited my 87 Seville
>> from my father-in-law when he passed away. It was pretty amazing
>> technology. I didn't even know they made FWD cars with V8s. It drove
>> ass-low because the gas bag suspension in the back had lost all it's
>> wind and the air pump went South.
>
> Friend has a 92 caddy with load-leveling shocks. Who needs shit like
> that? When they go bad they run all the time and wipe out the battery.
> He hoped to replace them with ordinary shocks, but they don't make them.
> I'm SOOO glad my mom's car (now mine) doesn't have those.
>
>> It was a super-duper neat car until
>> most everything broke. That's the breaks.
>
> This one can't lock the passenger door with the driver-side switch, and
> the passenger window makes gear-grinding noises at the very top and when
> it's open about 6 inches. I gave it a new radio, so maybe it won't break
> anything else. Although, come to think of it, the window problem started
> AFTER I got the radio...
>

That's one ungrateful car! My guess is that it's holding out for a new
paint job - and not one of those cheapie Maaco deals...


== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 10:24 pm
From: The Real Bev


On 01/23/11 18:42, dsi1 wrote:

> On 1/23/2011 4:06 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>>
>> This one can't lock the passenger door with the driver-side switch, and
>> the passenger window makes gear-grinding noises at the very top and when
>> it's open about 6 inches. I gave it a new radio, so maybe it won't break
>> anything else. Although, come to think of it, the window problem started
>> AFTER I got the radio...
>
> That's one ungrateful car! My guess is that it's holding out for a new
> paint job - and not one of those cheapie Maaco deals...

NOOOO. Cars think that a paint job means they're going up for sale, and
the devil they know is better than the one they don't. If you give an
older car something expensive, it's absolutely guaranteed to break
something MORE expensive. Previous (1978) Caddy got some differential
repair (from an actual Caddy dealer, the shithead) and threw a rod
through the engine a few weeks later.

Besides, how could anybody want to cover up paint called Antelope Fire-Mist?

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TOPIC: Hell of a time getting a 'cork' out of wine bottle
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 23 2011 3:38 pm
From: Al


On Jan 21, 1:40 pm, anthona <harri85...@aol.com> wrote:
> In the past, I have no problems with my cork puller on cork caps of
> wine bottles. But lately, every now and then one buys a bottle whch is
> sealed with a black wrapper, that eventually exposes what actual plug
> you have. This time it was what looked like, but doubt, an opaque
> coloring of a wax plug. For some reason I had a hell of time with my
> usual reliable wine puller, but not this time. I could upload a
> picture of it, but am at loss on how to do it here. I  dugged and
> picked with knives, screwdrivers and etc..and couldn't pry it out.
> Obviously, after about an half hour or so,  i managed..fortunately,
> there were no guests waiting for a glass of wine. Does anyone know
> what those plugs are made of and an easier way to remove them? Thought
> of soaking in water, hot or cold, but held back on that theory. Also,
> why some bottles have the good old corks and others are either screwed
> caps or as i had on this one ..a 'wax' plug? I would like to avoid
> going through this again..how does one know when buying a bottle of
> wine? BTW, this bottle was exported from Italy...if that should make a
> difference.

I suppose you could drill a hole and thread in an eye bolt and yank it
out.


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