Thursday, August 17, 2017

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 9 updates in 2 topics

wilma6116@gmail.com: Aug 16 11:17PM -0700

The other night I went about buying a recliner online. I narrowed it down to Amazon. I went back and forth over design, fabric, and color. Finally decided and chose the one I wanted. I went through the shopping cart, clicked on my credit card. The total was $260. Hmmm... seems a little high, but I've spent hours on this, I'm sure it's right.
 
The next day they sent an email telling me my chair has shipped. I clicked on the chair to briefly admire it. But a big surprise!
 
I was charged $260. All the other comparable ones we selling for $230!. Even the one I bought showed $230. Same manufacturer, same Prime delivery. Everything the same.
 
I wrote Amazon. Should I refuse delivery and reorder later. Should I return it? Should I refuse delivery and order from the many contractors listed? Amazon has not replied and delivery is in about 16 hours? Or do I just suck it up and think about having my pocket picked every time I use that chair?
no-spam@sonic.net (Fake ID): Aug 17 08:43AM

In article <4660655a-6d45-4dc8-b991-d34dc3bc7847@googlegroups.com>,
>contractors listed? Amazon has not replied and delivery is in about
>16 hours? Or do I just suck it up and think about having my pocket
>picked every time I use that chair?
 
Probably the sucking. The latent resentment may fade over time. Or build.
There's also the uncertainty that when you go to repurchase the chair
that the $230 won't suddenly become $270.
 
I went through something similar a few years ago with a microwave oven.
Amazon was *the* place to get the one with the specific attributes I
needed, but they were backordered. I put my order in and eventually it
shipped and the instant after the price dropped by something like $50.
 
In a related Amazon gouge, my washing machine broke down recently so I
found the required part on Amazon. Things came up and hours later when
I finally got around to adding the part to my cart Amazon had raised the
price by $2. In this case it pushed me over the threshhold for free
shipping without having to find something cheaper than the shipping
charge to buy.
 
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wilma6116@gmail.com: Aug 17 06:34AM -0700

Well, I got a reply from Amazon. They suggested I start a return. Great! The return costs $25 S&H. AND the price of the chair went back up to $260.
 
I remember when stores would match lower price, some plus ten percent. I thought Amazon was free returns for Prime (or was that Zappatos?).
 
As Amazon gets their fingers around the neck of the American consumer, look for a small breathing charge.
Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com>: Aug 17 07:39AM -0700


>Well, I got a reply from Amazon. They suggested I start a return. Great! The return costs $25 S&H. AND the price of the chair went back up to $260.
 
>I remember when stores would match lower price, some plus ten percent. I thought Amazon was free returns for Prime (or was that Zappatos?).
 
>As Amazon gets their fingers around the neck of the American consumer, look for a small breathing charge.
 
Check out the camelizer browser add-on. It shows the price history of
items on Amazon and you can set an alert to let you know when/if the
item is offered for your desired price.
 
Dennis (evil)
--
My output is down, my income is up, I take a short position on the long bond and
my revenue stream has its own cash flow. -George Carlin
BigDog811 <bigdog811@gmail.com>: Aug 17 02:49PM -0700

> Well, I got a reply from Amazon. They suggested I start a return. Great! The return costs $25 S&H. AND the price of the chair went back up to $260.
 
> I remember when stores would match lower price, some plus ten percent. I thought Amazon was free returns for Prime (or was that Zappatos?).
 
> As Amazon gets their fingers around the neck of the American consumer, look for a small breathing charge.
 
Amazon Prime is free two day shipping, and a bunch of other stuff. But the other stuff is outside the context of this discussion. Returns are dependent on who the seller is. Free Prime returns only apply to items sold AND fulfilled by Amazon. There are many items on the Amazon site that are drop shipped by third party sellers to Amazon fulfillment centers, or shipped directly from the seller. There is a statement in each product listing that tells you where/who sells and fulfills the item. Return terms are also listed. If you're going to rely on free Prime returns you need to make sure the product is both sold and fulfilled by Amazon.
 
If you're returning a defective or incorrectly described item for an exchange or refund you'll get a replacement or all your money back. If you get a refund then choose to buy it again, obviously you'll pay the increased price if it's gone up.
 
I've been shopping at Amazon since '98, and been a prime member for over a decade. I don't recall that they ever had a price matching policy. But a lot of businesses will price match Amazon. I've done that twice in the past year with purchases from Best Buy. Once for a smart TV, and once for computer hard drive. The good part of those deals was I got to take them home with me - didn't have even a short two day Prime customer wait.
 
Amazon isn't getting their hands around anyone's neck. They sell nothing you can't get elsewhere. If you don't like their business practices or prices just don't do business with them. No one's forcing you to. I always research my purchases and frequently find better prices than Amazon, including shipping. That's where I buy if the extra wait is worth the difference to me.
Beaver_Fever@live.com: Aug 16 08:55PM -0700

Pros? Cons?
 
Much like rental insurance or medical insurance, I don't really understand how this works.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Aug 16 09:52PM -0700


> Pros? Cons?
 
> Much like rental insurance or medical insurance, I don't really understand how this works.
 
I had no idea there was such a thing as 'frugal life insurance.'
I do know the younger you are the cheaper your premium will be
on any life insurance policy.
John Weiss <jrweiss98155@comcast.net>: Aug 16 10:41PM -0700

> Pros? Cons?
 
> Much like rental insurance or medical insurance, I don't really understand how this works.
 
Why do you need it? Do you support a wife and/or kids?
 
IF you need it, Term Life is cheapest. Lots of variations, though. The
shorter the term, the cheaper the initial cost, but more expensive when
you renew.
 
Find an Independent insurance agent that will get you the most for your
money. While you might find cheaper premiums on line, they might not be
worth it if you don't know what you're buying...
wilma6116@gmail.com: Aug 16 11:28PM -0700

Are you talking about cheap insurance for old people. That stuff is for funeral costs, primarily. Go to mortuary and funeral companies. Get an idea what you'll be spending. The local trash company will supply an over-size container for cheap enough.
 
Some people want something big and festive. Others want cheapo. I figure I always flew coach, now I'm dead I want to high-hat people?
 
Shop around, pre pay if you can. Lock in the price. Get insurance to make up the difference. Look into Costco, they have deals.
 
Now, if you're looking to keep your teenage orphans from a life of human trafficking... that's a different story.
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