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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Mar 9 2010 11:46 pm
From: mithramahal

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TOPIC: walking boots-- which are good?
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 12:12 am
From: "Gordon"

"SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:4b96d604$0$1673$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>
> Of course boots with Gore-Tex membranes for water-proofness and
> breathability are used by the military. You can even buy factory seconds
> of the U.S. Army and U.S. Marine boots with the GoreTex membrane.
>
> "http://www.gore-tex.com/remote/Satellite/men/footwear/performance-comfort/brand/Matterhorn/1251586146389"
> "http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/wellco-us-army-gore-tex-icw-combat-boots-tan.aspx?a=545712"

Yep Military "APPROVED" NOT Military ISSUE. There's a world of difference in
that.

>
> Also, some militaries use socks with a GoreTex membrane, though this is
> not as effective.
>
> "http://www.cadetdirect.com/order1.php?pg=63"

Again - NOT issued kit.

I'm getting very near to plonking you and your TOTAL inability to accept
that many people of long experience DISAGREE with you.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 6:27 am
From: SMS

Gordon wrote:
>
> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:4b96d604$0$1673$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>
>> Of course boots with Gore-Tex membranes for water-proofness and
>> breathability are used by the military. You can even buy factory
>> seconds of the U.S. Army and U.S. Marine boots with the GoreTex membrane.
>>
>> "http://www.gore-tex.com/remote/Satellite/men/footwear/performance-comfort/brand/Matterhorn/1251586146389"
>>
>> "http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/wellco-us-army-gore-tex-icw-combat-boots-tan.aspx?a=545712"
>>
>
> Yep Military "APPROVED" NOT Military ISSUE.

"Genuine military-issue Boots are factory seconds."

This is not like "Schwinn Approved." These are boots used by the military.

No one will think any worse of you if you admit your mistake.

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TOPIC: What to do if your car accelerates uncontrollably
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== 1 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 12:37 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>> VFW <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote

>>>> a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the clutch down.

>>>> an automatic (really!) practice bumping the shifter into neutral.
>>>> Let Toyota buy you a new motor.

>>> I've always considered the key a great way to shut the car down.

>>> And yes I know it makes the car harder to steer...but not impossible.

>> It is if its got a steering lock and most modern cars do.

> Which means you set the wheel to steer straight while on a straight bit of road

Pity about your car ending up stopped in the middle of that road.

Makes a hell of a lot more sense to move off that road as is slowing down instead.

== 2 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 12:42 am
From: "Rod Speed"

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> Zee <zzaldy@gmail.com> wrote
>> Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" <atlas-bug...@invalid.invalid> wrote
>>> VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote

>>>> a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the clutch down.

>>>> an automatic (really!) practice bumping the shifter
>>>> into neutral. Let Toyota buy you a new motor.

>>> I've always considered the key a great way to shut the car down.

>>> And yes I know it makes the car harder to steer...but not impossible.

>> Oh no please don't do that. Shutting of the key while your car in
>> gear will make it stop in a dime and probably violently and god
>> knows what will happen to the car while you are in it. Whether you
>> are driving an auto or manual, you need to shift to Neutral first
>> before even thinking of shutting down the engine. But in my opinion,
>> after shifting to Neutral, just brake slowly and pull over before
>> shutting down the engine.

> Let's see: the latest adventure has a
> prius traveling at 94 mph (which may
> well be a record) on a nice freeway with
> lots of traffic. Choices are to continue
> doing what you are doing and maybe rear
> end some innocent driver, drive off into
> the bushes or cause the car to suddenly
> stop via shutting it off and trust your airbag.

Nope, that last wont happen.

> I'll take the airbag.

More fool you.

> BTW, I can't see any reason why shutting
> the engine off will make it stop on a dime...

Corse it wont.

> lot's of energy stored in the mass of a car going
> that fast, enough to turn the engine quite a few revs.

> Of course in California the standard, and I believe it is a question
> on the drivers test, is run your car up against the guardrails

More fool California. And you aint established that there are any guard rails anyway.

== 3 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 5:10 am
From: Al

On Mar 9, 7:07 pm, VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the clutch down.
>
> an automatic (really!)
> practice bumping the shifter into neutral. Let Toyota buy you a new
> motor.
> --
> Money; What a Concept !

Great theory of yours from the 50's.
The shifter on these cars is not mechanical, it's electric. You can
try to shift it, but the electronics is in charge.
The start stop is controlled on many with a button, not the key.
Again, electronics is in charge.
If the public perceives a ghost in the electronics, Toyota will be
forced to employ a kill switch like NASCAR and brake override.

== 4 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 9:49 am
From: Cindy Hamilton

On Mar 9, 8:09 pm, Zee <zza...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 10, 8:25 am, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" <atlas-
>
>
>
>
>
> bug...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > In article
> > <georgeswk-9ACE9B.16074209032...@news.to
> > ast.net>,
>
> > VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
> > > a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the clutch down.
>
> > > an automatic (really!)
> > > practice bumping the shifter into neutral. Let Toyota buy you a new
> > > motor.
>
> > I've always considered the key a great
> > way to shut the car down.
>
> > And yes I know it makes the car harder
> > to steer...but not impossible.
>
> Oh no please don't do that. Shutting of the key while your car in gear
> will make it stop in a dime and probably violently

So, how does that work, exactly? What causes the wheels to halt
when the engine is no longer supplying power to them?

How is it different from stalling out?

== 5 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 11:45 am
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"

In article
<7vp4asFedtU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
> > Of course in California the standard, and I believe it is a question
> > on the drivers test, is run your car up against the guardrails
>
> More fool California. And you aint established that there are any guard rails
> anyway.

Since you are the resident expert, prove
there aren't any. It should be easy for
you...just find a clip on youtube of any
interstate, freeway or major road in
California (excluding surface streets)
and it will be rife without guardrails.

I'll wait.

== 6 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 11:47 am
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"

In article
<7vp42rFcvcU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> >>> VFW <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote
>
> >>>> a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the clutch down.
>
> >>>> an automatic (really!) practice bumping the shifter into neutral.
> >>>> Let Toyota buy you a new motor.
>
> >>> I've always considered the key a great way to shut the car down.
>
> >>> And yes I know it makes the car harder to steer...but not impossible.
>
> >> It is if its got a steering lock and most modern cars do.
>
> > Which means you set the wheel to steer straight while on a straight bit of
> > road
>
> Pity about your car ending up stopped in the middle of that road.
>
> Makes a hell of a lot more sense to move off that road as is slowing down
> instead.

What causes the car to slow down and be
steerable?

== 7 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 1:19 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>> Of course in California the standard, and I believe it is a question
>>> on the drivers test, is run your car up against the guardrails

>> More fool California. And you aint established that there are any guard rails anyway.

> Since you are the resident expert, prove
> there aren't any. It should be easy for
> you...just find a clip on youtube of any
> interstate, freeway or major road in California

Pity about other roads, fuckwit.

== 8 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 1:21 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>>>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>>>> VFW <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote

>>>>>> a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the clutch down.

>>>>>> an automatic (really!) practice bumping the shifter into neutral.
>>>>>> Let Toyota buy you a new motor.

>>>>> I've always considered the key a great way to shut the car down.

>>>>> And yes I know it makes the car harder to steer...but not impossible.

>>>> It is if its got a steering lock and most modern cars do.

>>> Which means you set the wheel to steer straight while on a straight bit of road

>> Pity about your car ending up stopped in the middle of that road.

>> Makes a hell of a lot more sense to move off that road as is slowing down instead.

> What causes the car to slow down and be steerable?

The drag provided by the engine. Same drag you get when you take your
foot off the accelerator with the car in gear with no accelerator fault, stupid.

== 9 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 1:59 pm
From: "Bob F"

Zee wrote:
> On Mar 10, 8:25 am, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds" <atlas-
> bug...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> In article
>> <georgeswk-9ACE9B.16074209032...@news.to
>> ast.net>,
>>
>> VFW <george...@toast.net> wrote:
>>> a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the clutch down.
>>
>>> an automatic (really!)
>>> practice bumping the shifter into neutral. Let Toyota buy you a new
>>> motor.
>>
>> I've always considered the key a great
>> way to shut the car down.
>>
>> And yes I know it makes the car harder
>> to steer...but not impossible.
>
> Oh no please don't do that. Shutting of the key while your car in gear
> will make it stop in a dime and probably violently and god knows what
> will happen to the car while you are in it.

OK. You are a moron. Why do you want to tell everyone here that?

What nonsense.

== 10 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 3:43 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"

In article
<7vqgqfFhr3U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
> >>>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> >>>>> VFW <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote
>
> >>>>>> a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the clutch down.
>
> >>>>>> an automatic (really!) practice bumping the shifter into neutral.
> >>>>>> Let Toyota buy you a new motor.
>
> >>>>> I've always considered the key a great way to shut the car down.
>
> >>>>> And yes I know it makes the car harder to steer...but not impossible.
>
> >>>> It is if its got a steering lock and most modern cars do.
>
> >>> Which means you set the wheel to steer straight while on a straight bit
> >>> of road
>
> >> Pity about your car ending up stopped in the middle of that road.
>
> >> Makes a hell of a lot more sense to move off that road as is slowing down
> >> instead.
>
> > What causes the car to slow down and be steerable?
>
> The drag provided by the engine. Same drag you get when you take your
> foot off the accelerator with the car in gear with no accelerator fault,
> stupid.

Yet the problem being discussed is what
to do when you can't get your car to
stop accelerating.

== 11 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 3:44 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"

In article
<7vqgn1Fh6cU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>
> >>> Of course in California the standard, and I believe it is a question
> >>> on the drivers test, is run your car up against the guardrails
>
> >> More fool California. And you aint established that there are any guard
> >> rails anyway.
>
> > Since you are the resident expert, prove
> > there aren't any. It should be easy for
> > you...just find a clip on youtube of any
> > interstate, freeway or major road in California
>
> Pity about other roads, fuckwit.

Pity you can't prove your point old
fella. Seems like a constant problem
with you

== 12 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 3:45 pm
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"

In article
<7vqgn1Fh6cU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com>
wrote:

We weren't discussing other roads old
fella

== 13 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 7:18 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

>>>>>>>> a no brainer, if your have a standard shift. push the clutch down.

>>>>>>>> an automatic (really!) practice bumping the shifter
>>>>>>>> into neutral. Let Toyota buy you a new motor.

>>>>>>> I've always considered the key a great way to shut the car down.

>>>>>>> And yes I know it makes the car harder to steer...but not impossible.

>>>>>> It is if its got a steering lock and most modern cars do.

>>>>> Which means you set the wheel to steer straight while on a straight bit of road

>>>> Pity about your car ending up stopped in the middle of that road.

>>>> Makes a hell of a lot more sense to move off that road as is slowing down instead.

>>> What causes the car to slow down and be steerable?

>> The drag provided by the engine. Same drag you get when you take your
>> foot off the accelerator with the car in gear with no accelerator fault, stupid.

> Yet the problem being discussed is what to do when you can't get your car to stop accelerating.

You can if you turn the engine off.

== 14 of 14 ==
Date: Wed, Mar 10 2010 7:20 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote
>>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

>>>>> Of course in California the standard, and I believe it is a question
>>>>> on the drivers test, is run your car up against the guardrails

>>>> More fool California. And you aint established that there are any guard rails anyway.

>>> Since you are the resident expert, prove
>>> there aren't any. It should be easy for
>>> you...just find a clip on youtube of any
>>> interstate, freeway or major road in California

>> Pity about other roads, fuckwit.

> Pity you can't prove your point

Everyone can see for themselves that you are lying, as always.

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