Friday, September 9, 2011

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Today's topics:

* Lentil soup mistake - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/973d3330e2cf18ee?hl=en
* Don't buy used GM cars - no warranty anymore - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4a1e76674ef68cda?hl=en
* UPVC Doors UPVC Front Doors UPVC Patio Doors Composite Doors PVCU Doors
England - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9522b716dd669ef8?hl=en
* Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox: What is Poverty in the United
States Today? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6ec97f8820b2b6c6?hl=en
* How can we prove there is a God - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5c510be368997ce0?hl=en
* Tipping - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9e48bc2ed67ab3c7?hl=en
* How to Buy iPhones, iPads and iPods with Welfare Money - 3 messages, 3
authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9add04520e099820?hl=en

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TOPIC: Lentil soup mistake
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/973d3330e2cf18ee?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 7 2011 7:58 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)


In article <cbe81a49-3083-489e-bbc9-1fa04a6b2364@j1g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
anthona <harri85274@aol.com> wrote:
>As i was making lentil soup, i got a phone call and told my husband to
>pour a 1/4 cup of red wine into the pot....turned out that he had put
>1/4 of red wine vinegar. Apparently, vinegar does not smooth out as
>wine does, evaporating the acidity. Does anyone know how to neutralize
>that distinct flavor of vinegar or is it a lost cause and have to be
>thrown out?

Perhaps you could add baking soda in small doses, say 1/4 teaspoon at
at time, to reduce the acidity.

Alternatively, you could make another batch or two and combine the sour
one with them to dilute the acidity.


Gary

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 1:52 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


anthona wrote:

> As i was making lentil soup, i got a phone call and told my husband to
> pour a 1/4 cup of red wine into the pot....turned out that he had put
> 1/4 of red wine vinegar. Apparently, vinegar does not smooth out as
> wine does, evaporating the acidity.

You dont evaporate the acidity with red wine, it isnt acid in the first place.

> Does anyone know how to neutralize that distinct flavor of vinegar

Nope.

> or is it a lost cause and have to be thrown out?

You can certainly neutralise the acidity with bicarb etc but that wont necessarily
get rid of the distinctive taste of the acetic acid that is what vinegar mostly is.


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 3:07 pm
From: "John Weiss"


Rod Speed wrote:

> You can certainly neutralise the acidity with bicarb etc but that
> wont necessarily get rid of the distinctive taste of the acetic acid
> that is what vinegar mostly is.

Vinegar is mostly water. It's about 4% acetic acid.

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TOPIC: Don't buy used GM cars - no warranty anymore
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4a1e76674ef68cda?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 4:46 am
From: Kurt Ullman


In article <0b1g67paoq34tnu68obvhb55jk71tk858e@4ax.com>,
"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

>
> >
> >What property?
>
> GM was property. The dealership was property. It was seized.

Not really. These are franchises and they weren't renewed. Not at
all unusual in bankruptcy proceedings. Not really all that much
different than Borders, for instance, getting out of leases. This is one
of the few standard things that happened, to my mind.

--
People thought cybersex was a safe alternative,
until patients started presenting with sexually
acquired carpal tunnel syndrome.-Howard Berkowitz


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 5:50 am
From: James


On Sep 8, 7:46 am, Kurt Ullman <kurtull...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <0b1g67paoq34tnu68obvhb55jk71tk8...@4ax.com>,
>
>  "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
> > >What property?
>
> > GM was property.  The dealership was property.  It was seized.
>
>     Not really. These are franchises and they weren't renewed. Not at
> all unusual in bankruptcy proceedings. Not really all that much
> different than Borders, for instance, getting out of leases. This is one
> of the few standard things that happened, to my mind.

Auto dealer franchieses are not licenses to print money, they are
contracts between two parties and there are clauses in them that allow
the manufacturer to terminate under many different conditions. There
was a recent situation near here where the dealership took advantage
of someone with less than perfect mental capacity, selling her a car
when she came in to get her old car repaired. The manufacturer
terminated their franchise agreement and took bank the inventory that
wasn't paid for. Another dealer group bought the franchise rights and
renamed it within weeks.

Typically the manufacturer doesn't have anything to do with the real
estate. They may have an agreement about branding and signage for the
location, but the dealer owns or leases the location. Some dealerships
who lost their GM franchise have opened other franchises in the same
location, or opened a used car store.

One thing is very clear. There were too many GM dealerships. The
number of dealerships was more reflective of GM's sales dominance in
the 70s and 80s than the current situation. Dealers need volume to
make profit, and volume helps drive customers to their profitable
service departments. GM dealers were selling half to a third of the
volume that a Honda or Toyota dealer would sell.

I wouldn't weep for most GM dealers who lost their franchise. Most
dealerships are owned by groups who generally buy different franchises
to spread the risk around. So what they lose in GM, they might make up
at their Ford, or Nissan or another brand franchise they own. Mom and
Pop dealers are fading fast.

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TOPIC: UPVC Doors UPVC Front Doors UPVC Patio Doors Composite Doors PVCU Doors
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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9522b716dd669ef8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 4:51 am
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TOPIC: Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox: What is Poverty in the United
States Today?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6ec97f8820b2b6c6?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 4:59 am
From: Don Stockbauer


On Aug 27, 9:40 am, walt tonne <tonnewalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 27, 6:32 am, PJ D0nivini <p209...@hot-shot.com> wrote:
>
> > .Air Conditioning, Cable TV, and an Xbox: What is Poverty in the
> > United States Today?
>
> > "...Democrats have been running our inner-cities for the past 30 to 40
> > years, and blacks are still complaining about the same problems. More
> > than $7 trillion dollars have been spent on poverty programs since
> > Lyndon Johnson's War on Poverty​ with little, if any, impact on
> > poverty. Diabolically, every election cycle, Democrats blame
> > Republicans for the deplorable conditions in the inner-cities, then
> > incite blacks to cast a protest vote against Republicanshttp://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16500
>
> > Since 1964 we have spent $8--10 trillion on antipoverty programs.http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16860...
>
> Over twenty percent (20%) of Blacks have an IQ of 75 or less. Overall
> Black IQ is 85. It would be of huge benefit if Black females were
> given
> a financial incentive to be neutered. Meantime, they keep cranking out
> those low IQ kids which will lead to a social disaster. Illegal alien
> mestizoes
> also have a group IQ of 85 and they breed like flies. If we had a
> decent
> government they would soon be deported.

But they form the substrate of the Global Brain.

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TOPIC: How can we prove there is a God
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/5c510be368997ce0?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 1:47 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


anthona wrote:
> On Sep 3, 7:15 am, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> In article
>> <ccdb26aa-5e2f-4835-8307-e420df4b7...@a12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
>> abd alrahman abd allah <abdinthisla...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> hi,Excuse me,
>>> One approach is to suggest simple yet convincing experiments anyone
>>> could comprehend. For instance, say to someone, "Consider this the
>>> next time you are looking up at the moon or the stars on a clear
>>> night; could you drop a drinking glass on the sidewalk and expect it
>>> would hit the ground and on impact it would not shatter, but it
>>> would divide up into little small drinking glasses, with iced tea
>>> in them? Of course not."
>>
>>> Another example is have them consider what might happen if a tornado
>>> came through a junkyard and tore through the old cars; would it
>>> leave behind a nice new Mercedes with the engine running and no
>>> parts left around? Naturally not.
>>
>>> Or ask someone to consider what it would be like if someone told us
>>> about a fast food restaurant operating itself without any people
>>> there? The food just cooks itself, files from the kitchen to the
>>> table
>>> and then when we are done, the dishes jump back the kitchen to wash
>>> themselves. This is too crazy for anyone to even think about.
>>
>>> After reflecting on all of the above, how could we look to the
>>> universe above us through a telescope or observe the cells in a
>>> microscope and then think all of this came about as a result of a
>>> "big
>>> bang" or some "accident"?
>>
>> You must be on some serious mind-bending drugs. None of what you said
>> constitutes proof of god. It isn't even close.

> Food for thought

You'll get fat.

> if we are to believe in evolution as the creator...
> why then were there dinasours roaming the earth

Because the environment at that time suited them.

> and why not now,

Hordes of stuff has gone extinct for various reasons.

Some like the mamoth saw climate change away from
the ice ages wipe out the area they were suited to etc.

Not all the dinosaurs went extinct, some survived like with some of the reptiles etc.

> even if a calamity made them extinct?

Because a calamity did.

You dont even need a calamity, the dodo was just such a dud that it died out without one.

> Also, evolution goes on and on for millions of years,

Yes.

> and yet human life has its limits?

Nope, it just evolved a lot later than say the dinosaurs.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 11:18 pm
From: Mac Cool


anthona:

> Food for thought ..if we are to believe in evolution as the
> creator...why then were there dinasours roaming the earth and why not
> now, even if a calamity made them extinct? Also, evolution goes on and
> on for millions of years, and yet human life has its limits?

More like junk food. God is supposed to be a supernatural being and by
defintion its existence can't be proven by natural beings, only a god can
prove its existence. As for the other drivel, I suggest an education,
these aren't unanswered questions.

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TOPIC: Tipping
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 1:56 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Millhaven wrote

> Is there anybody else here who is fed up with this arrangement?

Yep, I never ever tip anyone, ever.

And yes, I know that some droids depend on that for a large part of their income.

> After paying thru the nose for restaraunt food, you're supposed
> to throw several dollars on top of the bill. I am sick of this extortion.

Yeah, I dont bother. Corse I dont use the same one often enough that
anyone will ever remember and piss on my food before its served etc.

> Here's an idea - charge what the food and services cost and pay your
> employees accordingly.

> And it's not just restaraunts either, I was at the House Of Blues
> recently and there was a restroom attendant handing off paper
> towels to everyone. I am supposed to tip for this to? Well, I didn't.
> Fuck that shit, until things change I am going to just eat at McDonald's
> and piss in empty beer cups.

Just piss on the droid handing out the towels. That'll teach him.

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TOPIC: How to Buy iPhones, iPads and iPods with Welfare Money
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 3:28 pm
From: Mrs Irish Mike


On Sep 7, 5:03 pm, Just Visiting <nospam-webex...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
> For more information, just ask someone who bought an iPhone, iPad and
> iPod with welfare money.

Mommmmm!!! Someone got more than meeeee!


== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 6:26 pm
From: Lady Veteran


On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 20:03:19 -0400, Just Visiting
<nospam-webextra@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>For more information, just ask someone who bought an iPhone, iPad and
>iPod with welfare money.

And all people getting welfare use it to buy iPhones?

Gosh, I love it when idiots generalize.

LV

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== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 8 2011 6:59 pm
From: Just Visiting


On Thu, 08 Sep 2011 20:26:14 -0500, Lady Veteran <armyvet@bigfoot.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 07 Sep 2011 20:03:19 -0400, Just Visiting
><nospam-webextra@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>For more information, just ask someone who bought an iPhone, iPad and
>>iPod with welfare money.
>
>And all people getting welfare use it to buy iPhones?
>
>Gosh, I love it when idiots generalize.
>
>LV

Really?! ALL people getting welfare? Look at the bright side, it's
better to spend on iPhones than drugs and prostitution at taxpayers'
expense.


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