Saturday, May 31, 2008

25 new messages in 7 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living?hl=en

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Today's topics:

* I'm getting 32 MPG... - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/516b9486e744653c?hl=en
* Richard Branson and an alternative to eBay - 9 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1e60826ab353aaf4?hl=en
* Run A Car On Water - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/476be507c2862634?hl=en
* frugal towels? - 8 messages, 6 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7e4690da26b3e36b?hl=en
* China Supply UGG Fendi D&G Burberry Purse & Handbags, etc - 1 messages, 1
author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/173633ba8a3939d6?hl=en
* Poverty in California... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/df52112e775185a1?hl=en
* another celebrity goes Scientology - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6e740135d665ef81?hl=en

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TOPIC: I'm getting 32 MPG...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/516b9486e744653c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 4:38 pm
From: Al Bundy


On May 31, 6:08 pm, "Dave" <no...@nohow.not> wrote:
> >> And it should do MUCH better than 32MPG!!! I think it needs a tune-up,
> >> or a better driver. -Dave
>
> > how do you figure that?
> > look here and tell me how she should be doing better;
> > <http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/sbs.htm>
>
> Well I regularly got 35MPG with my Galant (sometimes higher) and that is a
> heavier vehicle with a larger engine. I'd be pissed if I couldn't get a
> puny Saturn with a microscopic engine to do better than 32MPG. -Dave

Yea, I checked the site for the manual DOHC engine and average
reported mileage is 33.6MPG.
She coasts up to the lights, but maybe she's riding the brake or
clutch at other times. Maybe she has some extra junk in the trunk.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 8:40 pm
From: Patient Guy


Katy <katypurviance@hotmail.com> wrote in misc.consumers.frugal-living:

> I get 32 MPG with my car.
>
> It's not a hybrid.
>
> It's just my 1999 Saturn SL2.
>
> Wanna know how I do it? I set up a blog called Smart Driving Tips for
> Smart People so that I can share some of the things I do to stretch
> every last ounce of gas out of my tank. I hope you find it useful.
>
> 1. I coast whenever possible.
> If the light up ahead is red, or even yellow, I'll just coast. It
> never ceases to amaze me when someone speeds up to zip around me only
> to have to slam on their brakes for the red light. And you know what?
> Sometimes...

As long as "coast" means you are not taking it out of gear.

But you're correct: there are too many brain-dead drivers out there who
are annoyed that I proceed slowly when I see a red light up ahead, even
after just mildly accelerating from a new green light at the intersection
behind me. They make a point of speeding up around me to slam on their
brakes for the red up ahead.


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TOPIC: Richard Branson and an alternative to eBay
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/1e60826ab353aaf4?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 4:42 pm
From: dimview@DELETETHISlycos.com (dimview)

On Sat, 31 May 2008 15:42:46 -0700 (PDT), c0l1n_all_cars@hotmail.co.uk
wrote:

>A petition to call on SIR RICHARD BRANSON to look in to the
>feasibility of creating a website to compete with eBay.
>
>http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/19657.html

I think George W. Bush should create a website to compete with eBay.
Then after a few hundred listings he could put a "Mission
Accomplished" banner on the homepage.

dimview.

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 5:32 pm
From: 2nz


On May 31, 4:55 pm, rjn <email4...@yahoo.com> wrote:


> Only The Don is up to this task.
> Petition him.

<Jim Morrison voice>

"YOU CANNOT PETITION THE DON!!!!!"


== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 5:38 pm
From: 2nz


On May 31, 5:42 pm, dimv...@DELETETHISlycos.com (dimview) wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2008 15:42:46 -0700 (PDT), c0l1n_all_c...@hotmail.co.uk
> wrote:
>
> >A petition to call on SIR RICHARD BRANSON to look in to the
> >feasibility of creating a website to compete with eBay.
>
> >http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/19657.html
>
> I think George W. Bush should create a website to compete with eBay.
> Then after a few hundred listings he could put a "Mission
> Accomplished" banner on the homepage.

I can see that.
With a supplier like Halliburton, why not?

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 5:45 pm
From: ParallelCooler@gmail.com


On May 31, 6:42 pm, dimv...@DELETETHISlycos.com (dimview) wrote:
> On Sat, 31 May 2008 15:42:46 -0700 (PDT), c0l1n_all_c...@hotmail.co.uk
> wrote:
>
> >A petition to call on SIR RICHARD BRANSON to look in to the
> >feasibility of creating a website to compete with eBay.
>
> >http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/19657.html
>
> I think George W. Bush should create a website to compete with eBay.
> Then after a few hundred listings he could put a "Mission
> Accomplished" banner on the homepage.
>
> dimview.


THAT'S the best idea, yet.

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 5:58 pm
From: "Lumpy"


2nz wrote:

> <Jim Morrison voice>
>
> "YOU CANNOT PETITION THE DON!!!!!"

<Elvis Voice>

PETITION...Torments my heart
PETITION...Keeps us apart
PETITION...Why torture me...


Lumpy

You Played on Lawrence Welk?
Yes but no blue notes. Just blue hairs.

www.LumpyGuitar.net


== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 6:00 pm
From: "Lumpy"


dimview wrote:

> I think George W. Bush should create a website to compete with eBay.
> Then after a few hundred listings he could put a "Mission
> Accomplished" banner on the homepage.

All he'd need would be a small newcueless of
dedicated traders to make it happen.

Craig 'Lumpy' Lemke

www.n0eq.com


== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 6:06 pm
From: 2nz


On May 31, 6:58 pm, "Lumpy" <lu...@digitalcartography.com> wrote:
> 2nz wrote:
> > <Jim Morrison voice>
>
> > "YOU CANNOT PETITION THE DON!!!!!"
>
> <Elvis Voice>
>
> PETITION...Torments my heart
> PETITION...Keeps us apart
> PETITION...Why torture me...


negative feedback:

Petition yer pipe and smoke it.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 6:31 pm
From: PeterD


On Sat, 31 May 2008 15:42:46 -0700 (PDT), c0l1n_all_cars@hotmail.co.uk
wrote:

>A petition to call on SIR RICHARD BRANSON to look in to the
>feasibility of creating a website to compete with eBay.
>
>http://www.gopetition.co.uk/online/19657.html

Bwa-ha-ha-ha... Next!

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 8:36 pm
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply


Dave wrote:
>
> Again, why reinvent the wheel? Use craigslist. Since I found that I
> haven't visited ebay once, and I don't miss ebay. -Dave

For one thing, Craiglist is for private-party sellers, not people
seeking to earn an under-the-table income, and if you are found out,
your posts start getting flagged off and you can get restricted or
banned from the site.

Other than that, I LOOOOVE Craigslist!


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TOPIC: Run A Car On Water
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/476be507c2862634?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 4:45 pm
From: Al Bundy


RUN A CAR ON WATER wrote:
> Convert Your Car TODAY to Run on Water and gas to save over 40% on
> fuel costs!

So theoretically, you could run your vehicle on beer by drinking the
beer and pissing in the water tank.


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TOPIC: frugal towels?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7e4690da26b3e36b?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 4:48 pm
From: "Chloe"


"val189" <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:e2b7c83c-c15d-4d6c-8e09-b67744671266@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On May 31, 4:21 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>> OK, here's an actual non-spam, real question about frugal living.
>>
>> Where's a good place to buy frugal towels? And what kind (brands,
>> styles)
>> are good?
>>
>> I've noticed that if you buy cheap towels, you end up with ones that
>> don't
>> actually absorb water, aren't comfortable, and have problems with pilling
>> and shedding. These things are no good. I want to save money, but
>> too-cheap towels are essentially totally useless and worthless, and it's
>> a form of false frugality to spend even a single dime on something you
>> can't really ever use.
>>
>> At the same time, you can way overspend. So where's the middle road?
>> For that matter, how do you tell a cheaply-made towel from a quality one,
>> other than that the cheap one usually costs less?
>>
>> - Logan
>
> This is one type of purchase I don't skimp on. If you buy at a
> reputable store, wait for 'white' sales and buy the top of the line,
> they should last for decades. Do NOT use fabric softener in a towel
> load. Also, I wouldn't buy the dark colors, like navy, maroon etc -
> they tend to show lint from the lighter towels you might be washing.
> Green also seems to be door which fades easily.

You can tell they're good quality when they're heavy and soft. The advice to
wait for sales is good, but you can also find good buys at stores like T J
Maxx, Tuesday Morning and Steinmart which sell "past season" merchandise.
And even those stores sometimes mark towels down. You may not always be able
to find matching sets, but I've never had a problem with using towels in
differing coordinating colors: in fact, I kind of like the look.

You also might want to avoid white because it's hard to keep it fresh
looking without using a lot of bleach--which can be hard on the fibers over
time.

Just a side tip about lint: I don't sort my laundry into whites and colors,
but I do sort it by light and dark. That seems to be sufficient to avoid
most of the lint problems.

== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 5:54 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Chloe <justsayno@spam.com> wrote:
> "val189" <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:e2b7c83c-c15d-4d6c-8e09-b67744671266@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>> On May 31, 4:21 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>> OK, here's an actual non-spam, real question about frugal living.
>>>
>>> Where's a good place to buy frugal towels? And what kind (brands,
>>> styles)
>>> are good?
>>>
>>> I've noticed that if you buy cheap towels, you end up with ones that
>>> don't
>>> actually absorb water, aren't comfortable, and have problems with
>>> pilling and shedding. These things are no good. I want to save
>>> money, but too-cheap towels are essentially totally useless and
>>> worthless, and it's a form of false frugality to spend even a
>>> single dime on something you can't really ever use.
>>>
>>> At the same time, you can way overspend. So where's the middle
>>> road? For that matter, how do you tell a cheaply-made towel from a
>>> quality one, other than that the cheap one usually costs less?
>>>
>>> - Logan
>>
>> This is one type of purchase I don't skimp on. If you buy at a
>> reputable store, wait for 'white' sales and buy the top of the line,
>> they should last for decades. Do NOT use fabric softener in a towel
>> load. Also, I wouldn't buy the dark colors, like navy, maroon etc -
>> they tend to show lint from the lighter towels you might be washing.
>> Green also seems to be door which fades easily.

> You can tell they're good quality when they're heavy and soft.

No you cant. I used that for the last one I bought, and got a brand name as well, but
while it drys better than the worst of the cheapest towels, it still doesnt dry well enough.

> The advice to wait for sales is good, but you can also find good buys at
> stores like T J Maxx, Tuesday Morning and Steinmart which sell "past
> season" merchandise. And even those stores sometimes mark towels
> down. You may not always be able to find matching sets, but I've
> never had a problem with using towels in differing coordinating
> colors: in fact, I kind of like the look.
> You also might want to avoid white because it's hard to keep it fresh
> looking without using a lot of bleach--which can be hard on the
> fibers over time.
>
> Just a side tip about lint: I don't sort my laundry into whites and
> colors, but I do sort it by light and dark. That seems to be
> sufficient to avoid most of the lint problems.


== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 6:14 pm
From: Jimington


On Sun, 1 Jun 2008 10:54:46 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>Chloe <justsayno@spam.com> wrote:
>> "val189" <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:e2b7c83c-c15d-4d6c-8e09-b67744671266@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>> On May 31, 4:21 pm, Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> OK, here's an actual non-spam, real question about frugal living.
>>>>
>>>> Where's a good place to buy frugal towels? And what kind (brands,
>>>> styles)
>>>> are good?
>>>>
>>>> I've noticed that if you buy cheap towels, you end up with ones that
>>>> don't
>>>> actually absorb water, aren't comfortable, and have problems with
>>>> pilling and shedding. These things are no good. I want to save
>>>> money, but too-cheap towels are essentially totally useless and
>>>> worthless, and it's a form of false frugality to spend even a
>>>> single dime on something you can't really ever use.
>>>>
>>>> At the same time, you can way overspend. So where's the middle
>>>> road? For that matter, how do you tell a cheaply-made towel from a
>>>> quality one, other than that the cheap one usually costs less?
>>>>
>>>> - Logan
>>>
>>> This is one type of purchase I don't skimp on. If you buy at a
>>> reputable store, wait for 'white' sales and buy the top of the line,
>>> they should last for decades. Do NOT use fabric softener in a towel
>>> load. Also, I wouldn't buy the dark colors, like navy, maroon etc -
>>> they tend to show lint from the lighter towels you might be washing.
>>> Green also seems to be door which fades easily.
>
>> You can tell they're good quality when they're heavy and soft.
>
>No you cant. I used that for the last one I bought, and got a brand name as well, but
>while it drys better than the worst of the cheapest towels, it still doesnt dry well enough.

You must dry yourself fancy style. I just give a towel a simple rub
over and hang it up (head, body, genitals. I don't bother with legs,
too far away), any excess moisture soon evaporates, so i don't get
fancy with them.
I've never taken stock of our towels (that's the wife's business) but
i'd figure they'd last for a generation without too much drama.

>
>> The advice to wait for sales is good, but you can also find good buys at
>> stores like T J Maxx, Tuesday Morning and Steinmart which sell "past
>> season" merchandise. And even those stores sometimes mark towels
>> down. You may not always be able to find matching sets, but I've
>> never had a problem with using towels in differing coordinating
>> colors: in fact, I kind of like the look.
>> You also might want to avoid white because it's hard to keep it fresh
>> looking without using a lot of bleach--which can be hard on the
>> fibers over time.
>>
>> Just a side tip about lint: I don't sort my laundry into whites and
>> colors, but I do sort it by light and dark. That seems to be
>> sufficient to avoid most of the lint problems.
>

Jim
www.inghamcam.info

== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 6:55 pm
From: "Lou"

"Logan Shaw" <lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
news:4841b2d1$0$7044$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> OK, here's an actual non-spam, real question about frugal living.
>
> Where's a good place to buy frugal towels? And what kind (brands, styles)
> are good?
>
> I've noticed that if you buy cheap towels, you end up with ones that don't
> actually absorb water, aren't comfortable, and have problems with pilling
> and shedding. These things are no good. I want to save money, but
> too-cheap towels are essentially totally useless and worthless, and it's
> a form of false frugality to spend even a single dime on something you
> can't really ever use.
>
> At the same time, you can way overspend. So where's the middle road?
> For that matter, how do you tell a cheaply-made towel from a quality one,
> other than that the cheap one usually costs less?

Preumably, you're talking about bathroom towels, not the ones you use to dry
dishes. I can't provide you with a place to buy them, but Fieldcrest is a
good brand. I don't even know what a good price is currently - my wife and
I buy these towels once every 15 - 20 years.


== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 6:57 pm
From: "Lou"

"val189" <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:e2b7c83c-c15d-4d6c-8e09-b67744671266@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

> This is one type of purchase I don't skimp on. If you buy at a
> reputable store, wait for 'white' sales and buy the top of the line,
> they should last for decades. Do NOT use fabric softener in a towel
> load. Also, I wouldn't buy the dark colors, like navy, maroon etc -
> they tend to show lint from the lighter towels you might be washing.
> Green also seems to be door which fades easily.

Next time you're in the neighborhood, stop by and I'll show you my 20 year
old dark green towels.


== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 8:15 pm
From: "Rod Speed"


Jimington <wvzubqtr@gfa.pp> wrote
> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> Chloe <justsayno@spam.com> wrote
>>> val189 <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net> wrote
>>>> Logan Shaw <lshaw-use...@austin.rr.com> wrote

>>>>> OK, here's an actual non-spam, real question about frugal living.

>>>>> Where's a good place to buy frugal towels? And what kind (brands, styles) are good?

>>>>> I've noticed that if you buy cheap towels, you end up with ones that don't
>>>>> actually absorb water, aren't comfortable, and have problems with
>>>>> pilling and shedding. These things are no good. I want to save
>>>>> money, but too-cheap towels are essentially totally useless and
>>>>> worthless, and it's a form of false frugality to spend even a
>>>>> single dime on something you can't really ever use.

>>>>> At the same time, you can way overspend. So where's the middle
>>>>> road? For that matter, how do you tell a cheaply-made towel from a
>>>>> quality one, other than that the cheap one usually costs less?

>>>> This is one type of purchase I don't skimp on. If you buy at a
>>>> reputable store, wait for 'white' sales and buy the top of the
>>>> line, they should last for decades. Do NOT use fabric softener in
>>>> a towel load. Also, I wouldn't buy the dark colors, like navy,
>>>> maroon etc - they tend to show lint from the lighter towels you
>>>> might be washing. Green also seems to be door which fades easily.

>>> You can tell they're good quality when they're heavy and soft.

>> No you cant. I used that for the last one I bought, and got a brand name as well, but
>> while it drys better than the worst of the cheapest towels, it still doesnt dry well enough.

> You must dry yourself fancy style.

Nope. And I havent changed the way I dry myself either. If I use the old
towels that are now a tad threadbare, they still dry as well as they ever
did. The problem is that I cant find new ones that are as good as them now.

But I havent tried going to a specialist shop and asking someone
who looks knowledgable, an older woman, for a towel as good
as the old ones and that I dont care about the price.

> I just give a towel a simple rub over and hang it up (head, body,
> genitals. I don't bother with legs, too far away), any excess
> moisture soon evaporates, so i don't get fancy with them.

Its a lot warmer where you live.

> I've never taken stock of our towels (that's the wife's business)

Ask her about the problem for me.

> but i'd figure they'd last for a generation without too much drama.

The previous ones did last about that long and just got a bit threadbare.

>>> The advice to wait for sales is good, but you can also find good
>>> buys at stores like T J Maxx, Tuesday Morning and Steinmart which
>>> sell "past season" merchandise. And even those stores sometimes
>>> mark towels down. You may not always be able to find matching
>>> sets, but I've never had a problem with using towels in differing
>>> coordinating colors: in fact, I kind of like the look.

>>> You also might want to avoid white because it's hard to keep it
>>> fresh looking without using a lot of bleach--which can be hard on
>>> the fibers over time.

>>> Just a side tip about lint: I don't sort my laundry into whites and
>>> colors, but I do sort it by light and dark. That seems to be
>>> sufficient to avoid most of the lint problems.


== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 8:19 pm
From: The Real Bev


Lou wrote:

> "val189" <gwehrenb@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> This is one type of purchase I don't skimp on. If you buy at a
>> reputable store, wait for 'white' sales and buy the top of the line,
>> they should last for decades. Do NOT use fabric softener in a towel
>> load. Also, I wouldn't buy the dark colors, like navy, maroon etc -
>> they tend to show lint from the lighter towels you might be washing.
>> Green also seems to be door which fades easily.
>
> Next time you're in the neighborhood, stop by and I'll show you my 20 year
> old dark green towels.

I have no idea how old my black towels are, but I love them. I also
have 45-year-old jacquard towels (haven't seen those new for a LONG
time) that, except for the ragged edges, do their job just fine.

I used to sell towels at Sears back in the dark ages. Fieldcrest and
Martex are good brands. Whatever Costco sells is probably good. Cannon
is good, and less expensive. Better-quality all-cotton store brands
(Sears, Penney's etc.) are good. The ones that come in boxes and are
marked HIS and HERS are bad.

Except for the jacquards, all my towels are from yard sales. I buy for
price, perceived quality and color. Last bath towels I bought (the
black Fieldcrests) were maybe a buck each.

--
Cheers,
Bev
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"I never understood why anyone would go to the trouble to write a novel
when you can just go out and buy one for a few bucks." -- lpogoda

== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 8:33 pm
From: Samantha Hill - remove TRASH to reply


Logan Shaw wrote:
>
> I've noticed that if you buy cheap towels, you end up with ones that don't
> actually absorb water, aren't comfortable, and have problems with pilling
> and shedding. These things are no good. I want to save money, but


If you buy towels with 100% cotton pile and DO NOT USE FABRIC SOFTENER
LIQUID OR SHEETS ON THEM (caps added for emphasis), you will have
maximum absorption.


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TOPIC: Poverty in California...
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 4:56 pm
From: Al Bundy


On May 27, 10:13 pm, chriseric...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Food and gas prices have risen, and so has hunger, both physical and
> spiritual in our community. We continue to see an increase in single
> mothers with children in extreme poverty, often on the verge of
> homelessness. At Redding Loaves and Fishes we believe the world is not
> looking for a better sermon on Christian Love, but a better
> demonstration of it.
>
> We are against practices and laws that unfairly single out homeless
> people and criminalize them for everyday living and life-sustaining
> activites.
>
> Sometime in 2007 in Redding and Shasta County, California ...
>
> 3,316 total individuals representing 1,986 households were homeless at
> some point during the year and
> 2,332 total individuals representing 939 households were imminently at-
> risk of becoming homeless.
> 1,092 children were homeless and 995 children were imminently at-risk
> of becoming homeless.
>
> *The total of homeless and at-risk children was 2,087.
>
The Rev. Ike used to say, "The best thing I can do for the poor is
not be one of them."


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TOPIC: another celebrity goes Scientology
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/6e740135d665ef81?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 8:18 pm
From: markritter150@gmail.com


According to CNN...The latest celebrity to become a Scientologist:
VANILLA ICE.

Yes, that's right. Mr. Robert Van Winkle himself.

In celebration of his newfound religion, let's get his #1 hit movie
from the 90's out in high-definition Blu-Ray disc.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/coolasicebluray
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/coolasicebluray/signatures.html

Sign it (you don't need your real name) and see your signature on the
list (we're up to 90 supporters already!).

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 8:28 pm
From: Mensanator


On May 31, 10:18�pm, markritter...@gmail.com wrote:
> According to CNN...The latest celebrity to become a Scientologist:
> VANILLA ICE.
>
> Yes, that's right. �Mr. Robert Van Winkle himself.
>
> In celebration of his newfound religion, let's get his #1 hit movie
> from the 90's out in high-definition Blu-Ray disc.
>
> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/coolasiceblurayhttp://www.ipetitions.com/petition/coolasicebluray/signatures.html
>
> Sign it (you don't need your real name) and see your signature on the
> list (we're up to 90 supporters already!).

At least with crystal meth you don't end up a Scientologist.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Sat, May 31 2008 8:42 pm
From: "hamburger helper"

"Mensanator" <mensanator@aol.com> wrote in message
news:399c8c07-dbe3-4b70-9324-5c2cd3f2afeb@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
On May 31, 10:18?pm, markritter...@gmail.com wrote:
> According to CNN...The latest celebrity to become a Scientologist:
> VANILLA ICE.
>
> Yes, that's right. ?Mr. Robert Van Winkle himself.
>
> In celebration of his newfound religion, let's get his #1 hit movie
> from the 90's out in high-definition Blu-Ray disc.
>
> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/coolasiceblurayhttp://www.ipetitions.com/petition/coolasicebluray/signatures.html
>
> Sign it (you don't need your real name) and see your signature on the
> list (we're up to 90 supporters already!).

At least with crystal meth you don't end up a Scientologist.

------------

Way to reach for the stars, Scientology. Who's next? One of the Corey's?
Michael Jackson? Oh wait, you guys already tried that.

HH


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* If food and gas prices keep going up, the only direction for housing is down
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* I'm getting 32 MPG... - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: If food and gas prices keep going up, the only direction for housing is
down
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, May 30 2008 7:27 pm
From: websurf1@cox.net


On May 30, 9:00 am, Jeff <jeff@spam_me_not.com> wrote:
> George wrote:
> > Jeff wrote:
> >> websu...@cox.net wrote:
> >>> On May 28, 6:30 pm, jp89u...@yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>> There's no other way around.
>
> >>> If your dwelling is near employment centers, you might be well off.
>
> >> The trend where I live is mixed commercial and residential. You could
> >> live on top of the business you work at. Myself, I prefer to work in
> >> the easy chair across from the bed...
>
> >>> If your dwelling is far out in the suburbs, and the commute to work is
> >>> long, you might be not so well off.
>
> >> Oddly, the further out people live, the more likely they drive a gas
> >> hog. It's the opposite of what makes sense now.
>
> > Can I suggest that waste such as hauling yourself and a large coffee
> > around in a five ton fashion statement truck never made sense?
>
> Sure, you can suggest that. And you'd be right! Well put.
>
> Isn't that 3 ton loophole still open? That you can write off 100% of
> a $100,000 SUV as long as it weighs 3 tons?
>
> Considering that gas prices were already spiking back in 2003, to
> extend the road hog tax benefit at that time is indicative of the
> culture of short sightedness and greed that characterizes the W White
> House to this day.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
> >>> If you own a farm and don't need to buy seeds, you are in great shape.
>
> >> I think it's a real mixed bag for farmers. With livestock producers
> >> probably being hard hit, if they have to buy feed. Anyone that runs
> >> farm machinery is going to take a hit also.
>
> >> Jeff

Spoken as if W conceived, wrote, debated, passed, and signed the
legislation all by himself, without congress, citizens, or lobbyists.
Sheesh.

The legislation in question was intended to support capital
expenditures by businesses. They were thinking trucks, farm stuff,
delivery vehicles, etc.
IIRC, ordinary citizens didn't get the tax break, unless they had a
business and were able to write the gas-hog off as some sort of
deduction to the business. Think real estate people who bought the
biggest thing because dollarwise it made sense.

It's not the first, only, or last time that legislation had unintended
consequences. It would have been nice, though, if congress had fixed
the problem as soon as it was recognized. Please note that the
President can't sign any legislation that congress has not passed.


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TOPIC: I'm getting 32 MPG...
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/516b9486e744653c?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Fri, May 30 2008 10:16 pm
From: Katy


I get 32 MPG with my car.

It's not a hybrid.

It's just my 1999 Saturn SL2.

Wanna know how I do it? I set up a blog called Smart Driving Tips for
Smart People so that I can share some of the things I do to stretch
every last ounce of gas out of my tank. I hope you find it useful.

1. I coast whenever possible.
If the light up ahead is red, or even yellow, I'll just coast. It
never ceases to amaze me when someone speeds up to zip around me only
to have to slam on their brakes for the red light. And you know what?
Sometimes...

Keep reading...

http://smartdrivingtipsforsmartpeople.blogspot.com/

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