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* New (to me) phone call scam. - 5 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/679b432dc98fbcf8?hl=en
* buy.com - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4c40893130231167?hl=en
* Laundry detergent - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a00f9d5a253bcbe1?hl=en
* Good electric razor? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/310ad591f68c8176?hl=en
* Ants problem / Need solutions or Pest control service recommendations - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/29d439a1182b9c52?hl=en
* Locksets - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b8142a28702de083?hl=en
* One of my posts from Sept 11 back when this was a real group Re: OT Oh My
Goodness!!! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/771987c1b29fff2b?hl=en
* Handy small tool - 6 messages, 5 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/6f7aee0af13f0fa0?hl=en
* Miss Manners on job-hunting, etc. - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/018ec66f0e0256fa?hl=en
* Early Xmas! - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9b718f14774be39f?hl=en
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TOPIC: New (to me) phone call scam.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/679b432dc98fbcf8?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 22 2013 1:28 am
From: lexie
And it would be very helful if you can share the phone number the
scammer used, too. You know, like what they do at Callercenter.com The
complaints posted there include details about the scammer such as the
name, address, the phone number and how the scam was perpetrated. People
can use the information.
--
lexie
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 23 2013 9:28 pm
From: "itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net"
On Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:16:41 PM UTC-5, Bob F wrote:
>
> I just received a call. The guy "wanted to inform me that my computer had just
>
> downloaded some files from the internet. The files are inf and pnf files, these
>
> are the most dangerous files. I'm going to help you. Are you at your
>
> computer?......"
>
>
>
> When I told him I don't know what he is up to, but I know it's no good, he hung
>
> up.
>
>
I know one or two that have received this call and they don't have a computer (hard to believe, but it's true). When they informed the Indian sounding caller he pretty much called them a liar.
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 24 2013 8:06 pm
From: bob haller
scammers can create whatever bogus caller ID they care too........
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 24 2013 10:53 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 09/24/2013 08:06 PM, bob haller wrote:
> scammers can create whatever bogus caller ID they care too........
Just feed the number into google. Chances are you're not the first one.
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Cheers,
Bev
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"If the Eskimos have a thousand different words for "snow," does this
mean the French have a thousand different words for "surrender?"
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 25 2013 9:24 pm
From: Michael Black
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 09/24/2013 08:06 PM, bob haller wrote:
>
>> scammers can create whatever bogus caller ID they care too........
>
> Just feed the number into google. Chances are you're not the first one.
>
I've done that, a very frequently dsplayed number apparently belongs to
Bell telephone. I assume someone has put their number in the "return
field" but who knows. One time years back on dialup, the minute I hung up
from my ISP, Bell phones, wanting to ask about internet or something. I
figured that call was because they were watching, checking for long phone
calls or maybe even checking for data on those lines.
Michael
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TOPIC: buy.com
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4c40893130231167?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 23 2013 8:56 am
From: The Real Bev
On 09/21/2013 10:21 PM, music031013@gmail.com wrote:
> On Friday, September 20, 2013 9:49:26 PM UTC-10, music...@gmail.com wrote:
>> What has been your experiences?
>
> Thanks to all for your quick and informative replies.
>
> Do you think that this is a good buy?:
>
> http://www.rakuten.com/prod/toner-cartridge-for-hp-ce285a-remanufactured/226817895.html
Not a clue, but I bought my toner ($21 for the large-size cartridge)
from '2S Toner', one of the buy.com sellers, and was happy.
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Cheers, Bev
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"Only wimps use tape backup; *real* men just upload their
important stuff on FTP, and let the rest of the world
mirror it ;)" -- Linus Torvalds
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TOPIC: Laundry detergent
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a00f9d5a253bcbe1?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 25 2013 1:13 pm
From: music031013@gmail.com
Do you have a favorite?
How about ERA?:
http://assets.farmandfleet.com/p600/747128-20120803061011-era-laundry-detergent.jpg
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 25 2013 3:59 pm
From: Mrs Irish Mike
On Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:13:55 PM UTC-7, music...@gmail.com wrote:
> Do you have a favorite?
>
>
>
> How about ERA?:
>
>
>
> http://assets.farmandfleet.com/p600/747128-20120803061011-era-laundry-detergent.jpg
It does have the Chuck Norris seal of approval...
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Sep 26 2013 3:44 pm
From: Vandy Terre
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:13:55 -0700 (PDT),
music031013@gmail.com wrote:
>Do you have a favorite?
>
Most laundry detergents contain lots of un-need
scent, lots of un-need lint as filler, and some
sort of bubbling agent.
I suggest buying bulk buckets of the least
expensive and using about half of the recommended
amount. Amount used depends on how hard the water
is and how dirty the clothing. Manufacturers
suggest use of an amount that will work in even
the hardest water. This does result in a build up
of detergent in the clothing and the washer. Try
running a load of clothing with out adding
detergent and see if it 'bubbles'. If it does
then there is either a build up in the machine or
the clothing. Dingy looking clothing may actually
be a build up of detergent. Try washing with out
additives and see if the dingy disappears.
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TOPIC: Good electric razor?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/310ad591f68c8176?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 28 2013 10:47 am
From: KenK
It didn't used to be a problem but, for me, it has been now for several
years.
Finding a decent electric razor for male face shaving under $100. The ones
I've purchased don't cut well or the shield over the blades develops a hole
in under a year, with replacement shields unavailable locally or, with
shipping, too expensive.
When I was much younger, in the 1960s or so, I used a Norleco and it worked
fine for many years. No more. Last one either only lasted less than a year
or cut so badly I junked it - don't recall which.
Any suggestions? I really hate shaving with a blade the past few years.
TIA
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"Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Sep 28 2013 11:38 am
From: "John Weiss"
KenK wrote:
> Finding a decent electric razor for male face shaving under $100. The
> ones I've purchased don't cut well or the shield over the blades
> develops a hole in under a year, with replacement shields unavailable
> locally or, with shipping, too expensive.
>
> When I was much younger, in the 1960s or so, I used a Norleco and it
> worked fine for many years. No more. Last one either only lasted less
> than a year or cut so badly I junked it - don't recall which.
>
> Any suggestions? I really hate shaving with a blade the past few
> years.
I've had 2 Panasonics over the last 20 years or so. Blades & screens
last a year or more. You can get fancy ones or more basic ones with
the same heads. Check Amazon...
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TOPIC: Ants problem / Need solutions or Pest control service recommendations
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/29d439a1182b9c52?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 29 2013 10:23 am
From: Shoe-Chucker 2
In article <b2185994-7591-4e6c-a7e2-edc4b88d67ee@googlegroups.com>,
alpinepest786@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, June 20, 2010 10:04:59 PM UTC+5, rita wrote:
> > Ants problem / Need solutions or Pest control service recommendations
> > ****************************************************************************
> > ********
> > Bay Area, CA home
> >
> > We have a lot of ants in our home. We need some ant / pest control
> > services.
> >
> > has any one used any such a service and recommend such a service?
> > What do such services charge?
> >
> > Or any other ant control solutions ?
> >
> > Your help would be highly appreciated..
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Rita
>
> Its better to ask for a suggestion from a pest control Company.
> Visit: http://www.alpinepest.ca
we usually use Terro ant poison. sometimes Diatomeous Earth.
D.E. is non toxic. works on the mechanical abrasion of the exoskeleton.
they dehydrate.
good luck. some exterminators use D.E. as backup.
--
Karma ; what a concept!
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TOPIC: Locksets
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/b8142a28702de083?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 29 2013 10:27 am
From: Shoe-Chucker 2
In article <l1j7o3$jga$1@dont-email.me>, "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>
wrote:
> imascot wrote:
> > The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
> > news:l1a944$ng0$1@dont-email.me:
> >
> >> On 09/17/2013 11:04 AM, Shoe-Chucker 2 wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> And for the security. Hang the door to swing out. that way the whole
> >>> door is braced / supported all the way around , Not just the small
> >>> area where the lock is.
> >>> Just in case someone tries to kick the door in.
> >
> >
> > One caveat about switching the door hang: it's code here to have a
> > minmum of three feet of flooring or some sort of deck under the
> > swinging door, outward from the door frame.
> >
>
> And use security hinges that cannot be released with the door closed.
and protect the locking area from prying . Of course you have no large
windows in the door near the locks.
and good luck y'all.
--
Karma ; what a concept!
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TOPIC: One of my posts from Sept 11 back when this was a real group Re: OT Oh
My Goodness!!!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/771987c1b29fff2b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 29 2013 10:33 am
From: Shoe-Chucker 2
In article <r48139dr419k97sisimc7chtn1nnjg5g77@4ax.com>,
hchickpea@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:48:52 GMT, "cozyhome" <cozyhome@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
> > I'm busy filling jugs of water, in case whoever this is has people
> >situated
> >everywhere getting ready to take down the water supply. Don't assume
> >anything
> >impossible during wartimes.
>
> Slow down please. Arafat and the government of Afghanistan have denied any
> respnsibility and Arafat, at least, has been quoted as willing to help find
> the
> perps. Iraq hasn't claimed any responsibility. This appears to be an attack
> by
> a small group and not by a country.
>
> There simply wouldn't be sufficient numbers of terrorists to pose a
> widespread
> attack. Both the WTC and Pentagon are icons, and the choice of targets was
> obviously pre-planned, timed, and meant to be of maximum shock value. Having
> a
> widespread group in place to wreak nationwide havoc is highly unlikely. In
> any
> such large group there would have to be people would would leak information,
> etc. etc.
>
> Panic stockpiling now would play right into any terrorist plans of disrupting
> the normal economy.
>
> These were some sick sick puppies.
Haven't you heard the real terrorists were Dick Cheney and his henchmen.
He sat in the Pentagon and kept the air defenses "down" 45 minutes after
the "Towers" were hit.
Follow the money.... to Halliburton
and guess who made money in the Oil biz. by destabilizing Oil regions.
Why they're still at it.
and you paid for it. Wars for Oil and at the pump.
start here;
www.ae911truth.org/
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Karma ; what a concept!
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TOPIC: Handy small tool
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 29 2013 2:16 pm
From: Vandy Terre
Seamstress seam ripper is a very handy small tool.
In addition to the many uses while sewing it can
be used to open shrink wrap without damaging the
box beneath. It is also very handy to help remove
the security tape on new DVD or CDs. It is also
handy to open the plastic tape on medicine bottles
and/ or the seal under the cap. It is also a
decent letter opener or packing tape slicer.
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 29 2013 4:12 pm
From: Mrs Irish Mike
On Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:16:34 PM UTC-7, Vandy Terre wrote:
> Seamstress seam ripper is a very handy small tool.
>
> In addition to the many uses while sewing
Who sews anymore? When a any minimum wage earner can buy a dozen socks for less than an hour's wages, it's almost cheaper to buy new ones.
it can
>
> be used to open shrink wrap without damaging the
>
> box beneath.
Not much of a concern anymore. Most packaging is those clamshell things, which only scissors will cut.
It is also very handy to help remove
>
> the security tape on new DVD or CDs.
And that's why I haven't bought a CD or DVD in this century. Everything is streaming or MP3.
It is also
>
> handy to open the plastic tape on medicine bottles
>
> and/ or the seal under the cap.
I've noticed that nearly all medicine bottles have that perforated safety seal, now a days. Simple turn and everything falls away.
It is also a
>
> decent letter opener
Letter? What is this "letter" thing of which you speak?
> or packing tape slicer.
Once again, my desktop scissors.
I swear, I don't know what a seam ripper is. I wouldn't even know where to buy one. I have too much crap in my purse these days, anyhow.
Keep writing, though.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Sun, Sep 29 2013 4:40 pm
From: Michael Black
On Sun, 29 Sep 2013, Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
> On Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:16:34 PM UTC-7, Vandy Terre wrote:
>> Seamstress seam ripper is a very handy small tool.
>>
>> In addition to the many uses while sewing
>
> Who sews anymore? When a any minimum wage earner can buy a dozen socks
> for less than an hour's wages, it's almost cheaper to buy new ones.
>
>
LIkely few actually make their own clothes, but simple sewing is still a
good thing to know. That button comes off at the wrong time, sewing it
back on gets you going again, if nothing else. Yes, the pants are cheap,
but if you get a hole in your pocket you can extend the life by folding
the pocket over and sewing it. Or when the pants are no longer useful for
public use, you can patch them and wear them around the house; unless you
patch them the rip will soon get bigger and bigger.
My good knapsack needs some patching, it will last some time still but
fixing the holes makes sense.
In 1995, I bought a winter parka at a garage sale for five dollars. I had
bought something else, noticed it, and figured it was junk, then saw the
label and it's from a very expensive hiking company, way more expensive
than I'd buy new. So I try it on, and it fits perfectly. It's a bit
faded, and there are some holes, like someone had spilled some battery
acid on it. But still in pretty good shape. So I got some rip-stop tape,
stuck it over the holes, and sewed the tape in place for a more permanent
repair. And some additional holes have broken out since then, and I
recall some of the patches have needed resewing. The insulation has held
up, if anything the parka is too warm. A bit of sewing is well worth the
price of keeping that parka going.
It really costs nothing, since you can do repairs while watching tv or
thinking. Or, in an age when we seem to be constantly reading screens,
this is "menial" work, like making bread dough or seitan, where using your
hands is what matters, a nice change from the constant information flow.
I've kept a recycling bin going for a decade by "sewing it". The
recycling truck people just toss the bin to the sidewalk, and it
eventually cracks, so I drilled holes in it on each side of the crack and
used wire to "sew" it back up. I've done that plenty of times, sometimes
as a prelude to putting epoxy on things, the wire "thread" helping to hold
things together, the epoxy making it all nice and sturdy. I'm not sure
I'd have thought of this except that I can do rudimentary sewing.
If something is a chore, of course people are more likely to pay for
something rather than make or repair. But if you get some secondary value
out of the repair, maybe just "doing something by myself", then it doesn't
matter how much time it uses, or how much money that time could get if
spent at work.
> I swear, I don't know what a seam ripper is. I wouldn't even know where
> to buy one. I have too much crap in my purse these days, anyhow.
>
It's an easy way to remove existing stitches, though a small utility knife
works too. So if you need to make some clothing smaller this makes it
easier to get rid of the old seam.
Michael
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 30 2013 8:08 am
From: Nyssa
Michael Black wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Sep 2013, Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:16:34 PM UTC-7, Vandy
>> Terre wrote:
>>> Seamstress seam ripper is a very handy small tool.
>>>
>
<snipped>
>> I swear, I don't know what a seam ripper is. I wouldn't
>> even know where to buy one. I have too much crap in my
>> purse these days, anyhow.
>>
> It's an easy way to remove existing stitches, though a
> small utility knife
> works too. So if you need to make some clothing smaller
> this makes it easier to get rid of the old seam.
>
> Michael
>
Or for those of us who still sew, it's a way to remove
a mistake and re-do a seam.
Yes, I still sew. Mostly stuff like curtains and other
household items, plus things like re-hemming pants that
are 'way too long.
I made new full-length curtains and a matching tablecloth
for my bedroom this summer at a tiny fraction of the cost
of custom made or generic store-bought. Not only is the
result attractive and useful, it gave me something useful
to do with my time instead of zoning out in front of a TV
or video game.
Nyssa, who isn't going to let her skills atrophy
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 30 2013 10:24 am
From: Vandy Terre
On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 11:08:39 -0400, Nyssa
<Nyssa@concentric.net> wrote:
>Michael Black wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 29 Sep 2013, Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:16:34 PM UTC-7, Vandy
>>> Terre wrote:
>>>> Seamstress seam ripper is a very handy small tool.
>>>>
>>
><snipped>
>>> I swear, I don't know what a seam ripper is. I wouldn't
>>> even know where to buy one. I have too much crap in my
>>> purse these days, anyhow.
>>>
>> It's an easy way to remove existing stitches, though a
>> small utility knife
>> works too. So if you need to make some clothing smaller
>> this makes it easier to get rid of the old seam.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>Or for those of us who still sew, it's a way to remove
>a mistake and re-do a seam.
>
>Yes, I still sew. Mostly stuff like curtains and other
>household items, plus things like re-hemming pants that
>are 'way too long.
>
>I made new full-length curtains and a matching tablecloth
>for my bedroom this summer at a tiny fraction of the cost
>of custom made or generic store-bought. Not only is the
>result attractive and useful, it gave me something useful
>to do with my time instead of zoning out in front of a TV
>or video game.
>
>Nyssa, who isn't going to let her skills atrophy
Good idea!
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 30 2013 10:10 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 09/29/2013 04:12 PM, Mrs Irish Mike wrote:
> On Sunday, September 29, 2013 2:16:34 PM UTC-7, Vandy Terre wrote:
>> Seamstress seam ripper is a very handy small tool.
> I swear, I don't know what a seam ripper is. I wouldn't even know
> where to buy one. I have too much crap in my purse these days,
> anyhow.
Why did you bother to respond? What you wrote is the equivalent of a
person responding to a post about low-calorie diet hints by saying "I
never gain weight no matter how much I eat..."
--
Cheers, Bev
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"Don't bother looking for that key. There is no Esc."
-- M. Tabnik
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TOPIC: Miss Manners on job-hunting, etc.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/018ec66f0e0256fa?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Sep 30 2013 3:27 pm
From: lenona321@yahoo.com
Her book is: "Miss Manners Minds Your Business."
http://nypost.com/2013/09/29/miss-manners-offers-workplace-tips-in-new-career-book/
Last paragraphs from the NY Post article:
.....FOR THE WORKER CONFUSED BY GIFT-GIVING ETIQUETTE
Miss Manners heartily disapproves of the workplace Secret Santa. "Why are people giving presents in the workplace at all?" she wonders. "Presents are symbolic. When you give them in your personal life, they should show that you are paying attention to the person to whom you're giving them. Knowing all those things about your co-workers, unless they also happen to be your friends or your relatives, would be a little bit impertinent." Each holiday season, she receives queries from people who don't know what to give to their assigned recipient, as well as from "people who are highly offended by what they've received." Added to that, many workers don't have the personal resources to buy an additional gift for a work acquaintance on top of their holiday expenses.
The bottom line:
It is possible to abstain from this year's Secret Santa without looking like a Grinch. "Learn graceful ways of saying no and of pointing out that this pressure to do something is not in line with most people's wishes," Miss Manners says. "I would enlist others in understanding why you're opting out, or else take your vacation at that time."
Lenona.
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TOPIC: Early Xmas!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/9b718f14774be39f?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 6 2013 9:45 am
From: KenK
Was in Walmart on a grocery and other items trip yesterday (10/5) and found
a huge Xmas area. Lots of trees and aisle after aisle of decorations, etc.
Seems early, even for Walmart, but it may have happened last year too.
Haven't noticed Xmas ads in the local paper but I skip almost all the
inserts and ignore most in-paper ads.
--
"Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Oct 6 2013 11:50 am
From: Vandy Terre
On 6 Oct 2013 16:45:30 GMT, KenK
<invalid@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>Was in Walmart on a grocery and other items trip yesterday (10/5) and found
>a huge Xmas area. Lots of trees and aisle after aisle of decorations, etc.
>
>Seems early, even for Walmart, but it may have happened last year too.
>
>Haven't noticed Xmas ads in the local paper but I skip almost all the
>inserts and ignore most in-paper ads.
I have been seeing products I consider Xmas only
goods for sale in department stores in general
since July.
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