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TOPIC: products behind wrong price stickers at stores - on purpose?
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Date: Wed, Nov 4 2009 11:53 pm
From: "friesian@zoocrewphoto.com"
On Nov 4, 6:52 am, "Bill" <billnomailnosp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I do most of my grocery shopping once a month. Then throughout the month, I
> might need just one or two items...
>
> So many times I go to the grocery store and buy a couple of things. And when
> I do this, I notice and remember the price.
>
> Many times the price on the shelf is lower than the register price! ALWAYS
> higher, NEVER lower! I make them check the price and give me the lower
> price.
>
> Might try taking a notebook and writing down all the prices, then place the
> items on the checkout in order of your list, see how many prices are
> higher...
>
> "Ohioguy" wrote in message
> > Today I bought a couple of items at the grocery store - mussels in
> > garlic and wine sauce, and a package of crab rangoons. Both had marked
> > down price stickers that said $2.99 in front of the rows of products.
>
> > However, after I paid, instead of the $5.98 total I was expecting, I
> > ended up getting back only 2c in change from a 10 spot.
>
> > I complained, saying that both items had been priced $2.99, but she told
> > me I'd have to take it up with customer service. I saw a long line there,
> > and since I was holding our 8 month old, and also had our 5 & 6 year olds
> > along, I decided to simply walk back and double check the labels.
>
> > Well, it turn out that once again, they put a whole pile of a different
> > product behind another price sticker. The price is really large, but the
> > description is small, so I didn't notice it.
>
> > If they do this sort of thing a lot, it could give them higher products.
> > I wonder if they do this on purpose?
Some stores offer a price guarantee. For example, I work at Safeway.
If the price at the register is different (higher or lower) than the
the sign, you get the item for free. If you have multiples of that
item, you get the first one free, and the rest at the lower price.
I do the price audit for my department which means that each week, I
go around and scan EVERY item and compare the price on the telzon
(portable device that shows the current price at the register). I
check these in the afternoon on ad change day. This is to catch any
sale tags that might not have been removed, or a sale tag not yet up.
Most times, all I find are missing tags, or no sale tag (register
price is lower than shelf tag). It is rare for me to find a tag that
shows a lower price than register price. Maybe one per month. That's
for my department, not a whole store. But there are other people
checking the rest of the store.
I do keep an eye on prices, especially at other stores. I have found
that Walmart often has things ring up less than the shelf tag. Not in
every order. But when the price is different, it is usually lower.
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Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 1:17 am
From: "Rod Speed"
sr wrote:
> "john royce" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hcs1lm$g2u$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Les Cargill" <lcargill99@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:hcdkus$1gc$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> frater mus wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 21:58:45 -0400, sr wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A statement was made on the PBS program that the Irish economy
>>>>> thrived because of the potato ;that, the Irish had the full
>>>>> nutritional diet with just the potato and milk ! Wow, cheap
>>>>> enough!
>>>>
>>>> In college I dated a vegetarian grrrl who ate, basically, only
>>>> baked potatoes and Miller Lite. She was a little strange.
>>
>>> Was she bipolar?
>> There was a case reported some time ago here in the u.k., of an old
>> lady who confounded nuitritionists and others; when they discovered
>> that for the last umpteen years she had only eaten tinned rice pudding !
> Was she walking around?
Yep.
> What shape was she in?
Rather skinny.
> how old?
Way past her useby date.
> all kinds of rice cures, but not for a life long intake, goodness
> She has the milk, probably eggs in the pudding and the rice. How much didhe eat of this?
Nothing else.
> curious, again
Dont forget what that did to the cat.
And you had a line with just -- on it in front of your
'contribution' so it got treated as your sig and deleted.
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TOPIC: diy rack for oven problem
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ded71cb392c07611?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 3:39 am
From: "john royce"
"sf" <sf@geemail.com> wrote in message
news:n593f51amvd0a9p2olmv3b9msub24nsej8@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:13:30 +0800, "Dave C." <noway@nohow.never>
> wrote:
>
>>Let's get this straight... you are trying to think of a creative way to
>>save about .0000000000002 pennies worth of electricity? C'mon, be
>>serious now... is this a troll? -Dave
>
> These nut cases appear every so often. To store all of those
> casseroles, he needs a large freezer... when the freezer is empty,
> he's wasting electricity. It's a cycle he hasn't give much thought
> to. Being frugal doesn't mean being cheap, it just means don't waste.
> However, he's taking the concept to the point of being a cheapskate.
> I wonder if he reuses toilet paper?
Some people are so *opinionated* dont you think? The original question was
not 'just' about saving money, (which if you are not a merkin, might
actually have consequences) sometimes its just more convenient to cook as
much as a microwave will take; which often is not all that much anyway.
Our cooking rarely if ever gets frozen, so why introduce to others such
aspects as this that your over active mind uneccesarily produces? You
readily call someone else a nutcase for asking a valid food related
question, but empty vessals make the most noise, and you certainly qualify
wouldn't you say? Its always a big problem in (therapy) groups that the
shallow and opionated want to *hog* everything. when two or more empty
vessals start talking to each other they succeed and then spoil the
newsgroup for others. Why dont you look at yourself?
== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 4:02 am
From: "john royce"
"Al" <albundy2@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:ca94cb91-c5de-46e5-ac70-228b9992f08a@u13g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 4, 5:32 pm, Rod <polygo...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> Al wrote:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> > You will save exactly nothing.
>> > The MW puts out so many BTUs and that is absorbed by the food. Two
>> > cups of water will take twice as long to boil because it takes twice
>> > as many BTUs to raise the temperature the the boiling point. The same
>> > principle applies to your plan to put piles of food in the oven. Two
>> > equal piles will take twice as long to cook and it won't cook as
>> > evenly either when the food is crowded together.
>> > Time to rethink your cunning plan. I use two different microwaves on
>> > two different circuits.
>>
>> Agreed. But the OP later wrote:
>>
>> "Using the oven eating element easily brings the temperature up to where
>> the wood (chopsticks) cannot cope with it."
>>
>> Which seems to question just what the OP is doing. Using microwave
>> heating, using element heating, or both?
>>
>> And if he really wants to minimise electricity usage perhaps a hay box
>> would help?
>> Rod
Thanks to all (except the couple of empty vessals who waste everyones time).
To answer some general points: this oven uses both microwave and heating
element both at the same time. Our instruction manual specifically say not
to use any metal. Once I put in a plate that had a gold glazed rim and it
started sparking like crazy. Its not just about economy, the microwave is
not so big; so to fill it up is more convenient. Upturned lids are so close
fitting that pressure builds up and liquid squirts out, so thats a no go.
Grateful especially for the information about the ignition temperatures of
wood. Mistakely I assumed that the higher temperatures produced by the
heating element would cause the wood to catch fire. This information has
now solved this issue since I can easily make something out of some strips
of hardwood. Thanks.
== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 5:35 am
From: "Lou"
"john royce" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:hcuesk$gbv$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
(snipped)
> Grateful especially for the information about the ignition temperatures of
> wood. Mistakely I assumed that the higher temperatures produced by the
> heating element would cause the wood to catch fire. This information has
> now solved this issue since I can easily make something out of some strips
> of hardwood. Thanks.
Just a note of (possibly excessive) caution here. Back in the 1970's energy
crisis, a lot of people tried home heating with wood burning stoves. At the
time, I read that the ignition temperature of wood can be drastically
lowered by long-term exposure to elevated temperatures - in extreme cases,
ignition temperature can be lower than the boiling point of water.
The article was in connection with placing a wood-burner an adequate
distance from walls and furniture for safety. I don't know how accurate
that information is, but if your wood rack will be exposed to elevated oven
temperatures over a period of years, this may apply to you as well.
== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 7:39 am
From: sf
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 11:39:21 -0000, "john royce"
<bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:
>Some people are so *opinionated* dont you think? The original question was
>not 'just' about saving money, (which if you are not a merkin, might
>actually have consequences) sometimes its just more convenient to cook as
>much as a microwave will take; which often is not all that much anyway.
John, your message was lost after "merkin". Lose that word and you'll
be listened to more closely.
--
I love cooking with wine.
Sometimes I even put it in the food.
== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 9:42 am
From: Goomba
john royce wrote:
> Some people are so *opinionated* dont you think? The original question was
> not 'just' about saving money, (which if you are not a merkin, might
> actually have consequences) sometimes its just more convenient to cook as
> much as a microwave will take; which often is not all that much anyway.
>
> Our cooking rarely if ever gets frozen, so why introduce to others such
> aspects as this that your over active mind uneccesarily produces? You
> readily call someone else a nutcase for asking a valid food related
> question, but empty vessals make the most noise, and you certainly qualify
> wouldn't you say? Its always a big problem in (therapy) groups that the
> shallow and opionated want to *hog* everything. when two or more empty
> vessals start talking to each other they succeed and then spoil the
> newsgroup for others. Why dont you look at yourself?
>
oh you're gonna fit right in with AmandaF/Mandy Ruby. You both sound
like twits.
== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 11:09 am
From: "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
In article
<hcudhj$60a$1@news.eternal-september.org
>,
"john royce" <bluestar@mail.invalid>
wrote:
> "sf" <sf@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:n593f51amvd0a9p2olmv3b9msub24nsej8@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:13:30 +0800, "Dave C." <noway@nohow.never>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>Let's get this straight... you are trying to think of a creative way to
> >>save about .0000000000002 pennies worth of electricity? C'mon, be
> >>serious now... is this a troll? -Dave
> >
> > These nut cases appear every so often. To store all of those
> > casseroles, he needs a large freezer... when the freezer is empty,
> > he's wasting electricity. It's a cycle he hasn't give much thought
> > to. Being frugal doesn't mean being cheap, it just means don't waste.
> > However, he's taking the concept to the point of being a cheapskate.
> > I wonder if he reuses toilet paper?
>
> Some people are so *opinionated* dont you think? The original question was
> not 'just' about saving money, (which if you are not a merkin, might
> actually have consequences) sometimes its just more convenient to cook as
> much as a microwave will take; which often is not all that much anyway.
>
> Our cooking rarely if ever gets frozen, so why introduce to others such
> aspects as this that your over active mind uneccesarily produces? You
> readily call someone else a nutcase for asking a valid food related
> question, but empty vessals make the most noise, and you certainly qualify
> wouldn't you say? Its always a big problem in (therapy) groups that the
> shallow and opionated want to *hog* everything. when two or more empty
> vessals start talking to each other they succeed and then spoil the
> newsgroup for others. Why dont you look at yourself?
I'd suggest you ask your question in
rec.food.cooking
rec.food.equipment
or if it's that important, try to find a
bigger microwave/combo unit
or why aren't you just using a
regular/convection unit
(btw I actually don't have a full sized
one but use a counter-top
convection/toaster unit for lots of my
meals. I also have an advantium
microwave/convection oven but I don't
really like it and am hoping to switch
it out for a full sized convection oven)
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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f6724edce83d3506?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 6:33 am
From: James Fenimore
"As Black & Decker chief steps aside, he declines golden parachute"
By Dana Hedgpeth
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 5, 2009
As head of Black & Decker for 24 years, Nolan D. Archibald was due a
little parachute in case of severance. When the Maryland power-tool
maker decided to merge with its rival Stanley Works this week,
Archibald was entitled to open it and float away with $20.5 million.
Instead, he turned it down.
Has a new age dawned in the realm of executive compensation? Maybe
yes, maybe no.
Under the merger deal, Stanley's chief executive, John F. Lundgren,
will be named chief executive of the combined company, which is
expected to have annual sales of $8.4 billion and about 40,000
employees. Such a change was enough to trigger Archibald's severance
payment.
Instead he apparently decided his new pay package would be quite
enough.
Although Archibald, 66, is stepping aside as president and chief
executive, he is staying on as executive chairman of the board of
directors. That requires going to board meetings and advising, not
running the day-to-day operations, analysts say. And it pays well.
For the next three years, Archibald is expected to earn $1.5 million a
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There's also a Black & Decker pension, worth $35.5 million, as well as
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Bottom line: Archibald will be well compensated.
Archibald declined to discuss his compensation, but Black & Decker
spokesman Roger Young said Wednesday, "He and the board agreed that
was appropriate. I don't think we need to get into all of the details
of how the conversation went. It is between him and the board."
Companies have become more and more sensitive about executive
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that companies that have received big government bailouts, including
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compensation for their highest-paid executives.
"In this sort of market and economic environment, severance packages
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Archibald, one of the longest tenured chief executives of a major
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struggling to keep its market share. Over the years, he turned the
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The Stanley merger is the biggest deal this year in the consumer
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Black & Decker's merger deal is expected to close in the first half of
2010. Both boards have approved the deal, which must still get
shareholder and regulatory approval. Archibald's compensation
agreement is "effective only upon consummation of the merger," the SEC
filing states.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/04/AR2009110404581.html?hpid=newswell
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 4 2009 9:09 pm
From: "Dave C."
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 06:33:40 -0800 (PST)
James Fenimore <slipuvalad@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "As Black & Decker chief steps aside, he declines golden parachute"
>
> By Dana Hedgpeth
> Washington Post Staff Writer
> Thursday, November 5, 2009
>
>
>
> As head of Black & Decker for 24 years, Nolan D. Archibald was due a
> little parachute in case of severance. When the Maryland power-tool
> maker decided to merge with its rival Stanley Works this week,
> Archibald was entitled to open it and float away with $20.5 million.
>
> Instead, he turned it down.
>
> Has a new age dawned in the realm of executive compensation? Maybe
> yes, maybe no.
>
> Under the merger deal, Stanley's chief executive, John F. Lundgren,
> will be named chief executive of the combined company, which is
> expected to have annual sales of $8.4 billion and about 40,000
> employees. Such a change was enough to trigger Archibald's severance
> payment.
>
> Instead he apparently decided his new pay package would be quite
> enough.
What was the point of this post, exactly? There's no interesting
information, and nothing at all that is remotely related to the
subject, "CEO Pay Reform".
People have been bitching about executives getting millions of dollars
after their corporations received billions of dollars from taxpayers.
Black and Decker didn't receive a bailout, and neither did Stanley. If
Archibald is making megabux, he deserves it for keeping his huge
corporation financially sound, so that the taxpayers aren't robbed of
even more money. -Dave
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Have you contacted them?
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Boy, you sure have plenty of trouble with cameras.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 9:53 am
From: Cindy Hamilton
On Nov 4, 11:14 pm, Ohioguy <n...@none.net> wrote:
> Recently, we had our ~1 year old digital camera stolen, so I went
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