Sunday, January 6, 2019

Digest for misc.consumers.frugal-living@googlegroups.com - 7 updates in 1 topic

Nyssa <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com>: Jan 06 10:25AM -0500

ItsJoan NotJoann wrote:
 
>> errands
 
> Thankfully, all I have to plan is what day to head to
> whatever store.
 
I've looked at the Hanes site (a mess to navigate!), but
their prices are higher than most of the stores I check
for sales or clearance prices. Plus their shipping costs
are high and I still pay sales tax on the higher prices
and shipping.
 
Lucky you having all of that nearby. I'm facing a trek
to an alternative grocery chain just to get items that
Food Lion (the *only* full-service grocery chain in this
county or the nearest two small cities) doesn't carry.
And I"m not talking about outlandish items. Stuff like
canned cherries (not pie filling) and other berries and
bottled spring water in gallon jugs (only one brand carried
at a price double what other stores charge).
 
It burns most of a day and gallons of gas, but between
finding and stocking up on items I use and the lower prices
of those items, I think it's nearly a wash on savings. But
at least I have what I need on hand.
 
It's not like I'm in the middle of a desert or on top of
a mountain either. It's just so many chains and stores have
closed and have "regionalized" their stores so you have to
drive much longer distances in hopes of finding what you
need.
 
It's frustrating and with no signs of a reversal despite all
the calls for conserving and driving less. Hrumph!
 
Nyssa, who also gets tired of hearing the talking heads go on
about using public transit when their IS none in places outside
metro areas
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Jan 06 10:52AM -0800

On 01/06/2019 07:25 AM, Nyssa wrote:
 
> Nyssa, who also gets tired of hearing the talking heads go on
> about using public transit when their IS none in places outside
> metro areas
 
And even then it's not convenient for most things, including serious
shopping. My city (Pasadena, 250K) is pushing road diets -- removing
traffic lanes and replacing them with bicycle lanes and center left-turn
lanes. This snarls traffic to NO benefit -- I can count the bicyclists
I see per day on my fingers.
 
Metro station is 1/4 mile from my house. The only places I use it for
are my doctors (they all regard parking lots as a profit center and are
within roughly 1/4 mile of a station), the GOOD auto repair place, and
Chinatown a long time ago. The Walmart is roughly a mile from the
station, which is way too far to carry anything substantial. And yet...
 
The feds and the state pull financial strings for this shit, and it's a
constant fight. Like cockroaches. We got ONE plan dropped with a lot
of effort, but another one is cropping up in a different place. And
then another...
 
 
--
Cheers, Bev
A man's got to know his limitations.
It's a woman's duty to make sure of this.
Nyssa <Nyssa@flawlesslogic.com>: Jan 06 02:38PM -0500

The Real Bev wrote:
 
> dropped with a lot
> of effort, but another one is cropping up in a different
> place. And then another...
 
I feel your pain.
 
Of course you'd NEVER find any of those politicians or
"well-meaning" types on public transit!
 
I'd like them to explain to me how someone on a bike or
a bus is supposed to haul home a couple of weeks' worth
of groceries. Especially when it includes frozen or bulky
items.
 
Bike paths? We've got twisty two lane roads with NO shoulders
much less sidewalks or a place for a bike and a lot of
logging trucks and 18 wheelers to share the road with. And
they don't share well. The closest (only) grocery store is
13 miles from my house. Yeah, walking and bikes...
 
Isn't it fun to listen to the people who never do their
own shopping and cooking, etc. trying to decide how all of
the little people should live their lives?
 
Nyssa, who simply turns off the noise and goes about her
business the only way she can...in her truck(s)
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Jan 06 11:47AM -0800

On 01/06/2019 11:38 AM, Nyssa wrote:
 
> the little people should live their lives?
 
> Nyssa, who simply turns off the noise and goes about her
> business the only way she can...in her truck(s)
 
I've always combined trips, waited until I had a decent list, etc. We
used to bike more than we drove -- which is between 3K and 4K
miles/year. Not everyone can do that. We can't any more. The bastards
WANT us to get out of our cars and homes with yards and into high-rise
apartments and public transport.
 
It's all about global warming and the profits to be made therefrom. If
not global warming, something else. Probably involving unions.
 
--
Cheers, Bev
"Calling someone an asshole for being rude to a telemarketer
is like accusing someone who's shot a burglar in his home
of being a poor host." -- W.S.Rowell
Beaver_Fever@live.com: Jan 06 01:08PM -0800

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 10:52:21 AM UTC-8, The Real Bev wrote:
> Cheers, Bev
> A man's got to know his limitations.
> It's a woman's duty to make sure of this.
 
I live in a public transportation utopia.
 
About a hundred yards from the 24 hour bus line that runs to downtown LA and all important points in between and also a decent bus that runs to the valley but that place is always spotty when it comes to transit.
 
All the food I need is within a one block radius from Trader Joes to Vons to all the Armenian produce markets.
 
Even if I drove, parking is such a pain that I would be stuck walking and bussing it anyway.
 
The only issue recently was having a 7am flight out of Burbank Airport on Christmas morning, just a tad too early for the buses and I was unable to get a Lyft or a cab. I should have just woke up an hour early and hoofed it but I thought that would be unncessary. I was in near panic mode and wondering if I should just jack my roommate's bike when I finally got a response from Lyft and made it in time.
Beaver_Fever@live.com: Jan 06 01:10PM -0800

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 11:47:49 AM UTC-8, The Real Bev wrote:
> "Calling someone an asshole for being rude to a telemarketer
> is like accusing someone who's shot a burglar in his home
> of being a poor host." -- W.S.Rowell
 
Bus ridership is declining.
 
People who are dependent can no longer afford to live here and the buses are seen as dangerous and filthy while rideshare apps are dominating.
Beaver_Fever@live.com: Jan 06 01:14PM -0800

On Sunday, January 6, 2019 at 7:25:59 AM UTC-8, Nyssa wrote:
 
> Nyssa, who also gets tired of hearing the talking heads go on
> about using public transit when their IS none in places outside
> metro areas
 
Just got an email, free shipping with code SHIPFREE and 10% off $60 or more with 10OFFNOW.
 
Ordered a hoodie once but the site is definitely a mess.
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