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Monday, February 4, 2008

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 4:55 am
From: Ted

On Feb 3, 9:10 am, jazzerci...@hotmail.com (-) wrote:
> http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=3289
>
> 20 Million Illegal Alien Voters By 2010
> Immigration; Posted on: 2008-02-02
> [ Printer friendly / Instant flyer ]
>
> McCain is a madman
>
> by William Gheen
>
> Have GOP voters forgotten that just a few months ago, John McCain stood hand
> in hand with liberal icon Ted Kennedy pushing for the largest amnesty for
> illegal aliens in American history? While Rasmussen polling showed that
> Americans following the legislation very closely opposed it 3 to 1 (69% to
> 23%), McCain ignored the public.
>
> The angry calls rolling into the Senate offices, including John McCain's, were
> between 50 and 100 to 1 against McCain and Kennedy's bill. We know this
> because we stood outside his door counting calls received by his staff and
> because other Senators told us the ratios they were receiving. History was
> made when the Capital phone system shut down, due to overload of calls from
> angry Americans.
>
> John McCain refused to listen to Americans and went so far as to call members
> of the Senate who refused to support McKennedy "Racists"! John McCain showed
> no regard for American voices and instead called those who disagreed with him
> petty names. Who was John McCain listening to? He was listening to the US
> Chamber of Commerce and the racist illegal alien support groups like La Raza
> (The Race) whom he openly coordinated the effort with.
>
> John McCain has illustrated in dramatic fashion that when he feels safe in his
> office, he couldn't care less about what a majority of Americans think.
>
> Now, John McCain claims he is listening because he wants to be President in a
> few months. He says he will "Secure the Border First!" Even if you could trust
> John McCain, which you cannot, his border security pledge will be quickly
> reduced to irrelevance, if his desire for Amnesty for 20 million illegal
> aliens becomes a reality...
>
> Barack Obama brags about how he worked with Senator McCain for "Comprehensive
> Immigration Reform" amnesty. If the GOP voters allow McCain to win the
> primary, they will be denying Americans any real choice against Amnesty in
> November. Unless an independent candidate enters the race, our choice will be
> between Clinton, Obama, or McCain all pushing for Amnesty from the White
> House, just like Bush!
>
> Continue....http://newsblaze.com/story/20080201172143tsop.nb/newsblaze/OPINIONS/O...
>
> News Source: newsblaze.com
>
> Related Stories
> # What if 20 Million Illegal Aliens Vacated America?
>

http://www.wvwnews.net/story.php?id=2223
>
> 2007-2008 European Americans United.

An obervation; Senator McCain would perform oral sex on a road-killed
Mexican to please his
beloved illegal aliens.

ted

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 5:08 am
From: haber14@lycos.com

On Feb 3, 6:53 pm, Righteous Dude <n...@hotmail.uk> wrote:
> Jose wrote:
> > KING5.com, WA - 21 hours ago
> > Preheat oven to 400 degrees F. Heat olive oil in a pan. Cook turkey
> > over medium high heat until evenly brown. Stir in green onions, taco
> > seasoning mix, ...
>
> First, steal a bicycle, go to a store and shoplift, some frozen pizza
> dough. Eat a candy bar or some potato chips with out paying for them,
> shoplift some corn tortillas. Get a few cans of tomato sauce with
> peppers and a pound of free cheese from the the welfare food pantry.
> Skin and fillet the neighbors cat, or find some road kill. Grill it all
> over an empty 50 gal chemical storage drum filled with garbage. Roll the
> meat and cheese up in the corn tortillas. Poor the canned sauce over the
> rolled tortillas and call it lasagna.

Mexicans often eliminate the olive oil. They simply wipe the oily
residue from
their bodies onto the pan.

Dennis

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 5:28 am
From: "Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names"

On Feb 4, 8:08 am, habe...@lycos.com wrote:
> On Feb 3, 6:53 pm, Righteous Dude <n...@hotmail.uk> wrote:
>
> > Jose wrote:
> > > KING5.com, WA - 21 hours ago
> > > Preheat oven to 400 degrees F. Heat olive oil in a pan. Cook turkey
> > > over medium high heat until evenly brown. Stir in green onions, taco
> > > seasoning mix, ...
>
> > First, steal a bicycle, go to a store and shoplift, some frozen pizza
> > dough. Eat a candy bar or some potato chips with out paying for them,
> > shoplift some corn tortillas. Get a few cans of tomato sauce with
> > peppers and a pound of free cheese from the the welfare food pantry.
> > Skin and fillet the neighbors cat, or find some road kill. Grill it all
> > over an empty 50 gal chemical storage drum filled with garbage. Roll the
> > meat and cheese up in the corn tortillas. Poor the canned sauce over the
> > rolled tortillas and call it lasagna.
>
> Mexicans often eliminate the olive oil. They simply wipe the oily
> residue from
> their bodies onto the pan.
>
> Dennis

You assholes are a laugh a minute. Maybe you need to call Rush and
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 7:34 am
From: "Stormin Mormon"

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--
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 8:09 am
From: KarlMarx_MiddleClass_Ipod_HipHop

On Feb 3, 12:50 pm, " P.O.W." <georgewsp...@humboldt1.com> wrote:
> Contact someone about to abandon their home in foreclosure. cheap rent it
> until evicted? how long would that work?
>

Plan not to decorate the dwelling with much bling. You may have to
leave in a 3 day notice. However, not being tied down to a mortgage or
geographic region is golden these days. Mobility = ability to move
where the jobs are.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 4:30 pm
From: Too_Many_Tools

On Feb 3, 1:48 pm, "rick++" <rick...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Contact someone about to abandon their home in foreclosure. cheap rent it
> > until evicted? how long would that work?
>
> Can take up to nine months in my state after you stop paying your
> mortgage.
> One investigative reporter in my twon discover a "serial foreclosure"
> family.
> They'd buy a house and never pay mortgage until evicted. They buy a
> house
> in another family member's name and do the same thing. On their
> fourth house
> they claimed. Evictions are a lot faster for renters.

Wonder how they got their utilities connected?

Most companies check credit ratings before hooking up these days.

TMT

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 7:46 pm
From: Jeff

Coffee's For Closers wrote:
> In article <georgewspamk-F69395.09504703022008@sn-ip.vsrv-
> sjc.supernews.net>, georgewspamk@humboldt1.com says...
>> Contact someone about to abandon their home in foreclosure. cheap rent it
>> until evicted? how long would that work?

Good luck suing your landlord when the bank takes over and your
belonging are put out. And what recourse would you have to recover your
rent, you certainly won't be on top of the list.
>
>
> My understanding is that, people who are really desperate (and
> some who aren't), tend to stay in the home throughout the
> foreclosure process. Only abandoning it near the last minute,
> when they are forcibly told to leave.
>
> Although I suppose it might work with a home-buyer who was only
> speculating, hoping to flip it quickly, and never lived in the
> place. There could potentially be several months left until the
> actual seizure.
>

I know someone who is putting tenants into such homes. Generally the
house is subdivided and several people are put in. Perhaps workable for
the investor if the foreclosure isn't too close, but often that only
forestays the inevitable. These arrangements are typically month to month.

Signs of the times.

Jeff

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 8:27 am
From: Seerialmom

On Feb 3, 9:03 pm, Shawn Hirn <s...@comcast.net> wrote:
> In article
> <03aec174-8343-41b7-95d3-99faa0ebb...@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
> meteore <bigro...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I am planning to buy one of those 42 inch LCD or plasma hdtvs
>
> > I want a TV that will be trouble free for years like my old Hitachi 35
> > inch TV, which still works perfect after about 15 years of heavy use.
>
> > I realize that plasmas or lcd tvs have not been on the market for 15
> > years, so it would be a real guess.
>
> > Can someone recommend a tv from their own personal experience. I do
> > not wish to read magazine reports
>
> > Which brands have the reputation of being trouble free or maintenance
> > free?
>
> > I do not want to buy a new set after five years.
>
> > Thanks.
>
> > Roger
>
> Check Consumer Reports magazine. They reviewed LCD and plasma television
> sets in a recent edition. I don't recall that they had any reliability
> estimates, probably because both types of TVs are too new to allow for
> enough time to pass before their reliability can be assessed.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

But Shawn...one of his last sentences said he doesn't want to read
magazine reports. You'd think that perhaps the question would be
better posed in a general "consumer" group where people like to SPEND
money vs being frugal? An even better resource would be at
epinions.com, at least there people give pros/cons about electronic
devices. Oh well.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 4:42 pm
From: Dennis

On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:59:14 -0700, timeOday
<timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:

>Personally, I haven't gone hi-def because it was too much money, would
>have obsoleted my stereo receiver, and due to programming. My old
>analog cable is so expensive already. Plus everything hi-def is locked
>down with DRM. If I can't watch it when and where I want, it's not
>worth paying for.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Over-the-air HD and unencrypted
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satellite providers have always made their programming hard to access
outside of their machines, HD or not.

Do you mean online sources? Or are you thinking of HDCP?

Dennis (evil)
--
The honest man is the one who realizes that he cannot
consume more, in his lifetime, than he produces.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 5:36 pm
From: timeOday

Dennis wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:59:14 -0700, timeOday
> <timeOday-UNSPAM@theknack.net> wrote:
>
>> Personally, I haven't gone hi-def because it was too much money, would
>> have obsoleted my stereo receiver, and due to programming. My old
>> analog cable is so expensive already. Plus everything hi-def is locked
>> down with DRM. If I can't watch it when and where I want, it's not
>> worth paying for.
>
> I'm not sure what you mean by that. Over-the-air HD and unencrypted
> (QAM) cable HD don't have any kind of DRM. Certainly HD and Blu-ray
> DVDs are encrypted, but so are standard definition DVDs. Likewise,
> satellite providers have always made their programming hard to access
> outside of their machines, HD or not.
>
> Do you mean online sources? Or are you thinking of HDCP?

DVD encryption was broken long ago, so I can copy a movie to my laptop
before a long flight. (This saves the power to spin the DVD drive and
opens the option bay for an extra battery).

I haven't bought satellite or digital cable due to DRM. I'm still with
analog cable.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 10:44 am
From: professorpaul

You *DO* understand that that is a hoax????

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Feb 4 2008 10:55 am
From: jik@kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens)

professorpaul <deadgoose@comcast.net> writes:
>You *DO* understand that that is a hoax????

You *do* understand that the rabid anti-Semites don't believe
that it is a hoax????

As far as they're concerned, the claims that it is a hoax are
simply an attempt by Jews to cover up the Protocols, and the
fact that so many people believe that they're a hoax is proof
of how successful the Jewish cover-up has been.

Lovely circular reasoning, that. All the best conspiracy
theories incorporate the cover-up, so the less widely believed
the theory, the more believable it becomes in the eyes of its
few remaining adherents.

People will believe anything. The supposed non-fiction book,
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--
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 8:55 pm
From: "Stormin Mormon"

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--
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 8:56 pm
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Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 9:03 pm
From: Shawn Hirn

In article
<03aec174-8343-41b7-95d3-99faa0ebbc5d@1g2000hsl.googlegroups.com>,
meteore <bigrog98@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am planning to buy one of those 42 inch LCD or plasma hdtvs
>
> I want a TV that will be trouble free for years like my old Hitachi 35
> inch TV, which still works perfect after about 15 years of heavy use.
>
> I realize that plasmas or lcd tvs have not been on the market for 15
> years, so it would be a real guess.
>
> Can someone recommend a tv from their own personal experience. I do
> not wish to read magazine reports
>
>
> Which brands have the reputation of being trouble free or maintenance
> free?
>
> I do not want to buy a new set after five years.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Roger

Check Consumer Reports magazine. They reviewed LCD and plasma television
sets in a recent edition. I don't recall that they had any reliability
estimates, probably because both types of TVs are too new to allow for
enough time to pass before their reliability can be assessed.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, Feb 3 2008 9:53 pm
From: Ron Peterson

On Feb 3, 7:59 pm, timeOday <timeOday-UNS...@theknack.net> wrote:

> Personally, I haven't gone hi-def because it was too much money, would
> have obsoleted my stereo receiver, and due to programming. My old
> analog cable is so expensive already. Plus everything hi-def is locked
> down with DRM. If I can't watch it when and where I want, it's not
> worth paying for.

I have a hi def tuner that works through the USB port on my computer
and allows me to record to a hard disk or view like I am using a TIVO.

--
Ron

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