Tuesday, January 19, 2010

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* If car totaled, how much paid? - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/44adf8fb5d567f05?hl=en
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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/fe687424c0e154dc?hl=en
* Bleach on Latex Paint - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/574d751da5284a4c?hl=en
* Paypal payment Cheap Wholesale Nike Air Max 87 Air Max 90 Air Max 180 Max
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http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/e4ccb3e0a8850179?hl=en
* ♥`*•.¸¸.•*♥nike shox | nike shox r4 | nike shox r5 | nike shox r3 | nike
shox in www.ecyaya.com - 2 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ae9befb4c26e0198?hl=en
* Roads are safer if you ride like you are crazy - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/51fe3c4bb1cb13eb?hl=en
* Best vacuum cleaner (one that doesnt have plastic agitator housing)? Dc17
dyson worth it? - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/27b047dbb7692a61?hl=en
* Can a people that drive SUVs and launch wars be called civilized? - 3
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/64725a75f5ca8cef?hl=en
* Opposing bicycling kills! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/de1a6f090ab3403e?hl=en
* (Paypal Payment)Hot sale Fashion Nike Jordan,shox,free,rift,max,AF1,Bape,
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messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/2dccc2349b8bdeda?hl=en
* Banana Worshipping - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/4744b061dcb8a457?hl=en

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TOPIC: If car totaled, how much paid?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/44adf8fb5d567f05?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Sun, Jan 17 2010 11:59 pm
From: "Sanity"


"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hj10id$ver$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> clams_casino wrote:
>> Sanity wrote:
>>
>>> Next time I have a problem with my insurance company, I'm going to
>>> write you to get your expertise to help me swindle the insurance
>>> company.
>>
>>
>>
>> That'll be a first - swindling an insurance company. Yea ..
>> right. At best one MIGHT get a fair outcome, but don't hope
>> for it.
>
> Which is exactly what I did.
>
> Using the one piece of extra leverage I had.
>
>

You are my hero. You brought the giant insurance industry down to their
knees. You threatened them and they cowered. I'm glad it wasn't my company
that you did it to. By the way, does your mommy let you go out by yourself
after you watch the Wiggles on TV?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 5:30 am
From: clams_casino


Sanity wrote:

>>
>
> You are my hero. You brought the giant insurance industry down to
> their knees. You threatened them and they cowered. I'm glad it wasn't
> my company that you did it to. By the way, does your mommy let you go
> out by yourself after you watch the Wiggles on TV?

So are insurance companies more scummy or less scummy than financial
bankers?


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 10:33 am
From: "Bob F"


Sanity wrote:
> "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:hj10id$ver$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> clams_casino wrote:
>>> Sanity wrote:
>>>
>>>> Next time I have a problem with my insurance company, I'm going to
>>>> write you to get your expertise to help me swindle the insurance
>>>> company.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> That'll be a first - swindling an insurance company. Yea ..
>>> right. At best one MIGHT get a fair outcome, but don't hope
>>> for it.
>>
>> Which is exactly what I did.
>>
>> Using the one piece of extra leverage I had.
>>
>>
>
> You are my hero. You brought the giant insurance industry down to
> their knees. You threatened them and they cowered. I'm glad it wasn't
> my company that you did it to. By the way, does your mommy let you go
> out by yourself after you watch the Wiggles on TV?

LOL!

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 3:35 am
From: ransley


On Jan 17, 11:23 pm, vjp2...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> I had used Target Surface CLeaner with (hypochlorite) Bleach five years ago
> to remove mold from latex paint and it neither peeled nor became moldy again.
> Now they sell a Target "all purpose cleaner with bleach" which is 2%
> hypochlorite, but they say to use it on non-porous hard surfaces.  Is this
> essentially the same product? Why the change in warnings?  Tilex, which is 3%
> hypochlorite says do not use on paint unless you plan to repaint. I do not
> mind discoloration. My uncle used TIDE on asbestos sand paint and it began
> peeling within hours. Now this paint is not asbestos, but I don't want to
> deal with peeling. But I don't want this thing to spread.
>
>                                     - = -
>  Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
>    http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm http://www.facebook.com/vasjpan2
>   ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice.  Everything fully disclaimed.}---
>    [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
>  [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]

Why are you spending extra money, laundry bleach has nearly the same
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== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 4:50 am
From: Frank


On Jan 18, 12:23 am, vjp2...@at.BioStrategist.dot.dot.com wrote:
> I had used Target Surface CLeaner with (hypochlorite) Bleach five years ago
> to remove mold from latex paint and it neither peeled nor became moldy again.
> Now they sell a Target "all purpose cleaner with bleach" which is 2%
> hypochlorite, but they say to use it on non-porous hard surfaces.  Is this
> essentially the same product? Why the change in warnings?  Tilex, which is 3%
> hypochlorite says do not use on paint unless you plan to repaint. I do not
> mind discoloration. My uncle used TIDE on asbestos sand paint and it began
> peeling within hours. Now this paint is not asbestos, but I don't want to
> deal with peeling. But I don't want this thing to spread.
>
>                                     - = -
>  Vasos Panagiotopoulos, Columbia'81+, Reagan, Mozart, Pindus, BioStrategist
>    http://www.panix.com/~vjp2/vasos.htm http://www.facebook.com/vasjpan2
>   ---{Nothing herein constitutes advice.  Everything fully disclaimed.}---
>    [Homeland Security means private firearms not lazy obstructive guards]
>  [Urb sprawl confounds terror] [Phooey on GUI: Windows for subprime Bimbos]

The formulated product may contain something that may plasticize the
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Laundry bleach, I believe, contains about 5% hypochlorite and is a
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Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 8:38 am
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 8:42 am
From: TheTibetanMonkey


On Jan 18, 12:40 am, Dead Kennedy <dead.kenn...@live.co.uk> wrote:
> closest ive ever got to practicing theism
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Food-Gods-Original-Knowledge-Evolution/dp/05533...

I quote:

The ethnobotanist co-author of Psilocybin: The Magic Mushroom Grower's
Guide (not reviewed) puts forth the theory that magic mushrooms are
the original ``tree of knowledge'' and that the general lack of
psychedelic exploration is leading Western society toward eventual
collapse or destruction--controversial statements, to say the least,
though the argument's details often prove fascinating. In the
beginning, McKenna tells us, there were protohumans with small brains
and plenty of genetic competition, and what eventually separated the
men from the apes was an enthusiasm for the hallucinogenic mushrooms
that grew on the feces of local cattle. Claiming that psilocybin in
the hominid diet would have enhanced eyesight, sexual enjoyment, and
language ability and would have thereby placed the mushroom-eaters in
the front lines of genetic evolution--eventually leading to
hallucinogen-ingesting shamanistic societies, the ancient Minoan
culture, and some Amazonian tribes today--McKenna also asserts that
the same drugs are now outlawed in the US because of their corrosive
effect on our male-dominated, antispiritual society.

***

Having changed the banana for the mushroom wasn't the cause of
evolution. In fact we won't be fully human until we learn to smoke the
banana peels and stop driving SUVs. Those beasts are truly dangerous.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 11:04 am
From: VFW


In article
<4d377029-8457-42bf-9299-716b4ae6608f@14g2000yqp.googlegroups.com>,
TheTibetanMonkey <comandante.banana@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jan 18, 12:40 am, Dead Kennedy <dead.kenn...@live.co.uk> wrote:
> > closest ive ever got to practicing theism
> >
> > http://www.amazon.com/Food-Gods-Original-Knowledge-Evolution/dp/05533...
>
> I quote:
>
> The ethnobotanist co-author of Psilocybin: The Magic Mushroom Grower's
> Guide (not reviewed) puts forth the theory that magic mushrooms are
> the original ``tree of knowledge'' and that the general lack of
> psychedelic exploration is leading Western society toward eventual
> collapse or destruction--controversial statements, to say the least,
> though the argument's details often prove fascinating. In the
> beginning, McKenna tells us, there were protohumans with small brains
> and plenty of genetic competition, and what eventually separated the
> men from the apes was an enthusiasm for the hallucinogenic mushrooms
> that grew on the feces of local cattle. Claiming that psilocybin in
> the hominid diet would have enhanced eyesight, sexual enjoyment, and
> language ability and would have thereby placed the mushroom-eaters in
> the front lines of genetic evolution--eventually leading to
> hallucinogen-ingesting shamanistic societies, the ancient Minoan
> culture, and some Amazonian tribes today--McKenna also asserts that
> the same drugs are now outlawed in the US because of their corrosive
> effect on our male-dominated, antispiritual society.
>
> ***
>
> Having changed the banana for the mushroom wasn't the cause of
> evolution. In fact we won't be fully human until we learn to smoke the
> banana peels and stop driving SUVs. Those beasts are truly dangerous.

It's the learning curve that has many intimidated.
--
Hint; Enjoy the moment !

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 12:19 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle


I have my own jungle theory that would shock much of the so-called
"civilized world"... WE ARE STILL MONKEYS! The signs are everywhere:
Gorillas driving SUVs to show their hierarchy and intimidate others,
monkeys driven into war by alpha males...

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/f/f6/Armed_monkeys.jpg

There are other signs of our simian ancestors, such as loving bananas,
but those are naturally good.


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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 12:33 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle


On Jan 18, 10:59 am, Think <teddybe...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Funny pic!
> Yeah, the cerebral cortex is really just a thin layer covering up a
> bunch of stuff that evolved hundreds of thousands of years earlier.

Imho it doesn't take much anxiety to pull back the blanket and
expose
> the underbelly of human nature. And that's exactly what worries me
> now that we've turned the corner on the exponential curve of
> population growth. The limits of Earth's resources are being
> approached at an ever increasing rate of speed and the collision will
> be similar in form to such past collisions. But the numbers will be
> vastly greater than anything ever experienced before. (Geez, I sound
> like I ought to be carrying crates of ammo into my bunker.)

> What are the odds that we'll resolve the population and resources
> issue without a whole heap of suffering? 50-50? My guess is it will
> be a black swan event if we are able to AVOID it. So that raises the
> question of when. And that I just don't know. Range? 50 to 150
> years off the top of my head.

> Have a banana!

I totally agree with you and also see a 50/50 chance of having a happy
ending or a tragic ending. What it is happening though is that the
alpha males among us (some of them are actually females) drive us into
this frenzy for CONSUMPTION AND WAR and the FOOLISH MONKEYS follow...

Will the banana brake this cycle and will love conquer the beast?
That's equally possible...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hwPl7e7OWU

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 1:47 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle


On Jan 18, 1:22 pm, Think <teddybe...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> You misunderstood my prognostication. It was actually much less than
> 50/50 that we'll resolve it with minimal suffering.
>
> Monkey see, monkey do. Which one wins? The one that gets fed.

I realize now that the future struggles will be between the monkeys
that get fed and the ones that don't.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 12:54 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey


What is the moral of the following story? I guess opposing bicycling
kills!

(This is stuff happening in a Third World country... still a model for
some countries in the so called "developed world.")

CICLOVIA OR BIKE ROUTE

Colombia has the biggest events. Every Sunday and holiday the main
streets of Bogotá, Cali, Medellín, and other municipalities, are
blocked off for the event to become Carfree. From 7 am to 2 pm,
runners, skaters and bicyclists take over the streets. At the same
time, stages are set up in city parks. Aerobics instructors, yoga
teachers and musicians lead people through various performances. The
largest is Bogotá with 2 million people attending (30% of citizens) on
over 120km of carfree streets.

Colombia has the biggest events. Every Sunday and holiday the main
streets of Bogotá, Cali, Medellín, and other municipalities, are
blocked off for the event to become Carfree. From 7 am to 2 pm,
runners, skaters and bicyclists take over the streets. At the same
time, stages are set up in city parks. Aerobics instructors, yoga
teachers and musicians lead people through various performances. The
largest is Bogotá with 2 million people attending (30% of citizens) on
over 120km of carfree streets.

One of the main reasons cited by government is to promote physical
activity and health. There are other obvious social and cultural
benefits from using the public space as an open meeting area. There
are also environmental benefits in terms of cleaner air and increased
safety.

Ciclovías happen in many cities but the inspiration is credited to
Bogotá. The events have taken place since 1976 when they started
through the efforts of organizer Jaime Ortiz and others. Some credit
Bogotá Mayor Hernando Duran Dusan with starting Ciclovías in the early
1980s. Mayor Enrique Peñalosa deserves some credit for turning Bogotá
into a safe cycling city by taking on the dominance of automobiles in
the late 1990s.

In 2007, a Colombian congressman, Rep. José Fernando Castro Caycedo,
proposed a law restricting the hours of Ciclovias all over the country
to between 5 a.m. and 12 noon, charging that it caused traffic jams.
Ciclovia users protested the change, and received support from ex-
mayor Peñalosa and current mayor Samuel Moreno, as well as several
members of the city council and other congressmembers. As of June,
2008 the proposal appeared headed for defeat.

While he was speaking during the congressional public hearing on the
issue, Rep. Castro, a heavy smoker, suffered a cerebral hemorrhage,
collapsed, and died later that day. [1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciclovia


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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 7:10 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle


Here Madame Banana (Fantasy Island host Jezebel La Belle) shows how to
worship the banana, which it is said to calm down stress and road
rage, something very common around here.

The world may never be the same after this ancient technique is widely
practiced. I said "practiced" because Christians never practice what
they preach.

Anyways this could be a sort of jungle play when you feel the beast
within needs to be pacified...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz3EBKFkJlQ

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 7:27 pm
From: "ccarter@new.rr.com"


On Jan 18, 9:10 pm, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-
in-the-jungle <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here Madame Banana (Fantasy Island host Jezebel La Belle) shows how to
> worship the banana, which it is said to calm down stress and road
> rage, something very common around here.
>
> The world may never be the same after this ancient technique is widely
> practiced. I said "practiced" because Christians never practice what
> they preach.
>
> Anyways this could be a sort of jungle play when you feel the beast
> within needs to be pacified...
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz3EBKFkJlQ
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ----------------
> "Bananas are the forbidden fruit of the jungle, and are used for a lot
> of good things"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

Tibetan Monkey,

Thanks for posting this! I'm glad that I'm not the only person that
thinks banana-ignorance and neglect is a source to many of the world's
problems...


== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Jan 18 2010 8:58 pm
From: TheTibetanMonkey


On Jan 18, 7:27 pm, "ccar...@new.rr.com" <ccar...@new.rr.com> wrote:
> On Jan 18, 9:10 pm, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-
>
>
>
>
>
> in-the-jungle <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Here Madame Banana (Fantasy Island host Jezebel La Belle) shows how to
> > worship the banana, which it is said to calm down stress and road
> > rage, something very common around here.
>
> > The world may never be the same after this ancient technique is widely
> > practiced. I said "practiced" because Christians never practice what
> > they preach.
>
> > Anyways this could be a sort of jungle play when you feel the beast
> > within needs to be pacified...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz3EBKFkJlQ
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----------------
> > "Bananas are the forbidden fruit of the jungle, and are used for a lot
> > of good things"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> Tibetan Monkey,
>
> Thanks for posting this! I'm glad that I'm not the only person that
> thinks banana-ignorance and neglect is a source to many of the world's
> problems...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The banana is ignored because banana is monkey food and the monkeys
are ignored. Same thing as with the bikes.


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