Frugal Living: Nov 10, 2010

Wednesday, November 10, 2010

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TOPIC: Is Ed the new moderator?
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 10:20 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 11/09/10 20:50, Tom Sherman �_� wrote:

> On 11/9/2010 9:47 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>> I am not a moderator, but I am not going to let you destroy RBS.[...]
>
> Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman already destroyed RBS.

FWIW, the Big 8 Management Board is going through the process of
removing rec.bicycles.off-road, the moderated group that never got off
the ground. Don't let him kill another one. If you can't kill him,
killfile him. It can be done, mostly. Give it a shot.

--
Cheers, Bev
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"The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably
the day they start making vacuum cleaners." --Ernst Jan Plugge

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 4:56 am
From: Tom Sherman °_°

On 11/10/2010 12:20 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 11/09/10 20:50, Tom Sherman �_� wrote:
>
>> On 11/9/2010 9:47 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> [...]
>>> I am not a moderator, but I am not going to let you destroy RBS.[...]
>>
>> Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman already destroyed RBS.
>
> FWIW, the Big 8 Management Board is going through the process of
> removing rec.bicycles.off-road, the moderated group that never got off
> the ground. Don't let him kill another one. If you can't kill him,
> killfile him. It can be done, mostly. Give it a shot.
>
Well, "Handsaw" also killed AMB, Dolan killed ARBR, and RBM seems to be
dying off. Maybe it is time to go back to the one group rec.bicycles?

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 2:10 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ibddiq$apg$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 11/09/10 20:50, Tom Sherman �_� wrote:
>
>> On 11/9/2010 9:47 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> [...]
>>> I am not a moderator, but I am not going to let you destroy RBS.[...]
>>
>> Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman already destroyed RBS.
>
> FWIW, the Big 8 Management Board is going through the process of removing
> rec.bicycles.off-road, the moderated group that never got off the ground.
> Don't let him kill another one. If you can't kill him, killfile him. It
> can be done, mostly. Give it a shot.

Killfiling will not save a group that is plagued with a prolific original
poster who just posts the same old shit over and over. It has the effect of
being spam. Tom Sherman and I are mainly responders. That does not hurt a
newsgroup no matter what is said.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 2:21 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Tom Sherman �_�" <twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:ibe4pe$sl7$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 11/10/2010 12:20 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 11/09/10 20:50, Tom Sherman �_� wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/9/2010 9:47 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> I am not a moderator, but I am not going to let you destroy RBS.[...]
>>>
>>> Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman already destroyed RBS.
>>
>> FWIW, the Big 8 Management Board is going through the process of
>> removing rec.bicycles.off-road, the moderated group that never got off
>> the ground. Don't let him kill another one. If you can't kill him,
>> killfile him. It can be done, mostly. Give it a shot.
>>
> Well, "Handsaw" also killed AMB, Dolan killed ARBR, and RBM seems to be
> dying off. Maybe it is time to go back to the one group rec.bicycles?

ARBR was killed by Ed Gin and Associates, Jim McNamara and Tom Sherman. Why
Tom Sherman? He was a mainstay of ARBR and yet he stood by and let it
happen. He does not killfile, but he will not defend the group against
criminal vandal trolls. His cowardice and simpering rectitude is truly mind
boggling!

A group that will not defend itself from trolls, stalkers and spammers is
not worth living. Frankly, such groups deserve to die!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 5:29 am
From: SMS

On 04/11/10 4:41 PM, Mark Shapiro wrote:

> My experience in San Jose, CA, is quite the opposite,
> great selection, good quality food, at great prices in
> general, I find both shoppers and employees while
> perhaps not rich, to be as nice as any other store or
> nicer. Grocery Outlet is a needed and welcome
> competitor where I live.

I would not buy any perishable food there, but I stopped by one for the
first time about a week ago and bought a few things. Tom's toothpaste is
$2.49, 1/2 or less than what most stores charge for it.

For produce, the Asian markets are best, for meat, Sprouts or Costco is
best.

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 6:08 am
From: "harshanamanju@ymail.com"

Date some single moms in your area
http://urlrunt.me?c92

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 7:42 am
From: Geo-logical

In article
<134f4aaa-7eb0-4e9b-b65a-42d31b93c60a@n32g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
"harshanamanju@ymail.com" <harshanamanju@ymail.com> wrote:

> Date some single moms in your area
> http://urlrunt.me?c92

well, I've gotten some un-wed mothers a start.
--
Karma, What a concept!

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TOPIC: Is riding on sidewalk a sign of Banana Republic?
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 7:22 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

I see it all around here: 90% of the monkeys use sidewalks for their
errands on bikes. The problem is this creates a conflict with
pedestrians --who are not insignificant-- as well as being no less
dangerous to the cyclist. Why there's no enforcement against it?

Actually, one wealthy community around here --populated by the lions--
does enforce that ordinance and tickets cyclists on the sidewalks.
That's how the monkey learns. Now, if that ban were to be enforced
elsewhere, would that 90% move to the road or just put away their
bicycles? In my view, it depends what safety we provide on the road.
If we give them the lane --such as I propose-- they would be able to
share with traffic, not the lane. If we don't, it would probably be
the end of bicycling for practical reasons, however insignificant it
is now.

That's another good reason for a Banana Revolution. ;)

---------------------------------------------------------------

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 7:58 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

On Nov 10, 10:37 am, "Mike" <mikehu...@lycos.com> wrote:
> Why have you not yet responded to the question that asked, "How to you take
> your wife and four children with you on your bike?"
>
> Not only can we take our wife and our four children with us, here in the US
> in our safer SUVs, we can also take all of their "Stuff" with us as well.
> ;)

First of all, you should be buying a minivan not an SUV to carry that
much people.

Secondly, do you take that many people EVERYWHERE? How about a quick
hop to the market where you don't want to move 6 tons of steel to get
a bunch of bananas?

How about a family outing on bike? Hey, the kids may even like it! ;)

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 9:52 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

(I knew somehow I was in the right forum... Apartheid, only that it's
not so obvious this time. It must be hard to be discriminated for your
color, but it's even harder when you know you are doing the right
thing. Worse, few people out there even care about your fate and even
my stupid neighbor thinks I shouldn't be on the road, the middle of
the lane that is. Riding on the edge is also a form of discrimination
since you must share the same lane with a car, exposing your fragile
life to brutish or negligent drivers. And then the humiliation. Some
struggle over the lane --created by a stupid sign-- ended up in a
driver spitting in my face. If they forbid it on the road it would be
less of a teasing. We are not welcomed on the road)

On Nov 10, 11:21 am, Gokudomatic <gourry.gabr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10 nov, 17:00, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits
> of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 10, 10:37 am, "Mike" <mikehu...@lycos.com> wrote:
>
> > > Why have you not yet responded to the question that asked, "How to you take
> > > your wife and four children with you on your bike?"
>
> > > Not only can we take our wife and our four children with us, here in the US
> > > in our safer SUVs, we can also take all of their "Stuff" with us as well.
> > > ;)
>
> > First of all, you should be buying a minivan not an SUV to carry that
> > much people.
>
> > Secondly, do you take that many people EVERYWHERE? How about a quick
> > hop to the market where you don't want to move 6 tons of steel to get
> > a bunch of bananas?
>
> > How about a family outing on bike? Hey, the kids may even like it! ;)
>
> I'm a lucky non US citizen but I had the misluck to live a couple of
> years near this land of evil. And since I favor cycling a lot, I tried
> there to bike everyday going work. I've quickly lost count on how many
> times I was almost caught in an accident that would have killed me. Of
> course Mike won't go out with a bicycle and his family, he doesn't
> want to die and he's too busy trying to kill others bicycle rides with
> his SUV.

It's all the danger plus the harassment of drivers who feel entitled
to the whole road.

I don't think even a black under Apartheid felt this insignificant.
But life goes on, and we pretend to live in democracy.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 10:39 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

On Nov 10, 1:30 pm, dali_70 <w_e_coyot...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 10, 11:28 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free
> Spirits of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 10, 11:21 am, Gokudomatic <gourry.gabr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > It's all the danger plus the harassment of drivers who feel entitled
> > to the whole road.
>
> Try riding a skate board. You're invisible to everyone but the cops,
> who've got a hard on to harass the ever living shit out of you for
> being a "punk".

They probably associate punks with rebelliousness and they don't like
that. They rather have you with a nice haircut and driving a Toyota.
Try to put a bumper sticker of "God is my co-pilot" for double
insurance. ;)

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 11:11 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

On Nov 10, 1:49 pm, "Mike" <mikehu...@lycos.com> wrote:
> The kids all have bikes, that is what bikes are for, children.

Really? Well, not all grown ups consider bikes to be for kids. And
what do we do about Climate Change? Oops, you deny it. Let's try this:
What do we do about the obesity epidemic? What do we do about chronic
depression from lack of exercise? My mice would die without their
wheel.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 12:06 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

ORGASMIC MOMENT:

"I have this recurring fantasy at all times of the day, no matter
where I am or what I am doing: there are no more cars/trucks in the
world, but all the big, wide roads and highways are still there. I and
other bicyclists are whizzing along in the middle of the lanes, we
rule the roads! Aaaahhhhhhhhh…(orgasmic sigh).

Okay, have to snap out of it, back to the real world, onto the
sidewalk…"

http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/07/09/top-5-rules-for-riding-on-the-sidewalk/

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 12:37 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

Finally, a place that is not a Banana Republic. And the pedestrians
even give you the finger!

"In Stockholm the police will stop you if you ride on the sidewalk and
the pedestrians will give you the finger. I know a guy who got a
ticket for taking a shortcut over a sidewalk."

http://www.commutebybike.com/2008/07/09/top-5-rules-for-riding-on-the-sidewalk/

I think those Scandinavians take their democracy seriously.

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 7:46 am
From: *VFW*

well, I still don't think I'll buy it. I bought almost nothing he
"produced"
--
Karma, What a concept!

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 8:16 am
From: Jeff Thies

On 11/10/2010 10:46 AM, *VFW* wrote:
> well, I still don't think I'll buy it. I bought almost nothing he
> "produced"

Haven't seen it yet. I have read many of the books written by his
"staff". W never let thinking things through get in the way of making a
decision. Hey, when you know you are right, why consider other
possibilities, let alone consequences.

Enjoy the interviews and buy the book with your discounted 2011 calendar.

Jeff

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 10 2010 10:11 am
From: Michael Black

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010, *VFW* wrote:

> well, I still don't think I'll buy it. I bought almost nothing he
> "produced"

I thought every book was discounted at this point, if you went to the
right bookstore. The exceptions might be the obscure books from obscure
publishers that have to be specially ordered. Otherwise, The Big Chains
tend to discount books and the Big Internet Bookstores discount even more.
And apparently places like Costco often have really good deals on books,
the problem being they only sell a small selection of books so they are
bound to be what is a hot seller.

A library is also a place to get a book without paying. Chances are
people do want to read the book, so chances are good it will be at the
local library, now or very soon.

If you want it cheaper, then you have to wait. Wait for it to come out in
paperback. Or wait until the people who just have to have it Right Now
and are willing to spend full price (or the discounted full price) have
read it, and then have nothing to do with it other than give it away, to a
friend or to a community group that will sell it at a sale to raise money.
That may take a while, but maybe not; look for used book sales, rummage
sales and even garage sales. Of course, if you want it fast, are willing
to spend more money on it (but not the discounted full price) and can't be
bothered expending the effort to find it cheap, you can go to a used book
store where you'll spend more than you would at a used book sale or garage
sale, but less than the discounted full price.

Or wait for Christmas, someone might give it to you then.

Some books sell so many copies that you can actually find them lying on
the sidewalk, waiting for someone to come along and take it home.

Michael

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Nov 8 2010 10:25 pm
From: rita

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 4:55 am
From: Derald

Geo-logical <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote:

>http://consumerist.com/?CMP=OTC-FOOTER1
>
>buyers beware!
Man, I'm glad I don't depend on you for actual news. Nothing has
changed: Consumerist continues to be a source for unreliable,
subjective, "reviews" and unqualified opinions while Consumer Reports
continues its slide into irrelevance.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 7:13 pm
From: Forrest Hodge

On 11/8/2010 10:47 PM, Geo-logical wrote:
> http://consumerist.com/?CMP=OTC-FOOTER1
>
> buyers beware!

Not Mr/Mrs. Current Affairs are you. CU bought Consumerist.com more than
two years ago.

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== 1 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 6:31 am
From: JimmyMac

On Nov 7, 2:20 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:52ea2c78-fb06-4933-9296-956d377ee48e@42g2000prt.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 1, 5:44 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
>
>
> > Nope, I am not competing with TM at all. It is just copy and paste and the
> > crassest kind of insults I can muster. That is how you should have treated
> > Ed Gin as I advised, but you were too caught up in yourself to know what
> > you
> > were doing or the effect you were having on the newsgroup.
>
> It would seem that you haven't a clue as to your negative impact on
> the newsgroup or simply don't care. As concerns the rest, you have
> resurrected this old issue ad nauseum and I have addressed this ad
> nauseum, but does that stop you from resurrecting this yet again?
> Readers, Ed has the gall to accuse TM or recycling posts? In short, I
> neither asked for Ed's advice, didn't want his advice, and didn't need
> his advice. His advice was to handle Ed Gin much as he is now
> handling TM with absolutely no success whatsoever. So much for his
> technique and advice, but I digress. When he was told that I didn't
> require his advice, Ed persisted, because Dolan's ego just will not
> tolerate rejection. Further details are available in the archives,
> but no one other than Dolan is interested. The bottom line is that
> this is a mater lacking closure. From Ed's perspective, to attain
> closure I would have had to dance to Ed's music and take his advice
> and I wouldn't do that. This is Ed's problem to resolve, not mine to
> resolve for him. Give it a rest Ed. You are making yourself look
> foolish
>
> "Nope, I am not competing with TM at all.
> It is just copy and paste and the
> crassest kind of insults I can muster.

Well you are, but what does that have to do with what I said?
Diversion duly noted ... an often employed technique when you have no
answer to offer.

> That is how you should have treated
> Ed Gin as I advised, but you were too caught up in yourself to know what you
> were doing or the effect you were having on the newsgroup." - Ed Dolan
> [...]

Heard all this unsubstantiated nonsense ... many, many, many times
before. I refer you and the readers to what I said above and which
was ignored for obvious reasons. It addressed the true heart of the
matter.

> > > > Regards,
>
> > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > aka
> > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 2 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 6:34 am
From: JimmyMac

On Nov 7, 4:48 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:24122982-f640-4a98-aa91-0e91904e9cd3@s12g2000prs.googlegroups.com...
> [...]
>
>
>
> > It would seem that you haven't a clues as to your negative impact on
> > the newsgroup or simply don't care. As concerns the rest, you have
> > resurrected this old issue ad nauseum and I have addressed this ad
> > nauseum, but does that stop you from resurrecting this yet again?
> > Readers, Ed has the gall to accuse TM or recycling posts? In short, I
> > neither asked for Ed's advice, didn't want his advice, and didn't need
> > his advice. His advice was to handle Ed GIn much as he is now
> > handling TM with absolutely no success whatsoever. So much for his
> > technique and advice, but I digress. When he was told that I didn't
> > require his advice, Ed persisted, because Dolan's ego just will not
> > tolerate rejection. Further details are available in the archives,
> > but no one other than Dolan is interested. The bottom line is that
> > this is a mater lacking closure. From Ed's perspective, to attain
> > closure I would have had to dance to Ed's music and take his advice
> > and I wouldn't do that. This is Ed's problem to resolve, not mine to
> > resolve for him. Give it a rest Ed. You are making yourself look
> > foolish
>
> > "Nope, I am not competing with TM at all. It is just copy and paste and
> > the
> > crassest kind of insults I can muster. That is how you should have treated
> > Ed Gin as I advised, but you were too caught up in yourself to know what
> > you
> > were doing or the effect you were having on the newsgroup." - Ed Dolan
> > [...]
> >> Repetition is no substitute for a reply, argumentation or dialog.
>
> I'll not emulate you by doing likewise. What I said (now with typos
> corrected) is there for the readers that are interested.
>
> "Jim McNamara destroyed ARBR by bringing his petty feud with Ed Gin to the
> group." - Ed Dolan

Nonsensical, untenable opinion that cannot stand on its own merits.
The burden of proof rests with the accuser. Where' your proof?

> > > > > Regards,
>
> > > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > > aka
> > > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 7:12 am
From: JimmyMac

On Nov 7, 8:08 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits
of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 6:06 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits
> of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey Jimmy, don't let the bastards grind you down!
>
> > My strategy is hit and run, not lengthy that makes you waste time. Do
> > it like Jerry...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIQPKcHABmM
>
> I told you it would work. ;)

Illegitimi non carborundum? Yeah, well long, reasoned replies are
most certainly wasted on the myopic visionary Dolan. He is merely a
troll in search of attention to inflate his already substantial ego.
Without Usenet, their would be no real meaning in his life. An
admitted hermit, the internet serves as his only real link to the real
world from which he garners a twisted sense of self-importance.

== 4 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 8:45 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

On Nov 9, 10:12 am, JimmyMac <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 7, 8:08 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits
> of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 7, 6:06 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits
> > of the Jungle" <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hey Jimmy, don't let the bastards grind you down!
>
> > > My strategy is hit and run, not lengthy that makes you waste time. Do
> > > it like Jerry...
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIQPKcHABmM
>
> > I told you it would work. ;)
>
> Illegitimi non carborundum? Yeah, well long, reasoned replies are
> most certainly wasted on the myopic visionary Dolan. He is merely a
> troll in search of attention to inflate his already substantial ego.
> Without Usenet, their would be no real meaning in his life. An
> admitted hermit, the internet serves as his only real link to the real
> world from which he garners a twisted sense of self-importance.

He's not proposing anything other than slowing down those who do. He
used to say he was on my side, but he must have felt shadowed.

His Napoleonic Complex is just a caricature of the real thing. But his
IQ seems to be very low as well so he turns to copy and paste. Have
you ever something worth quoting from him?

In other words, HE'S A CLOWN!

== 5 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 1:14 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:449e14cd-459b-4589-af82-c0694456eebe@35g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
[...]
> Illegitimi non carborundum? Yeah, well long, reasoned replies are
most certainly wasted on the myopic visionary Dolan.

You mean your long-winded babble?

> He is merely a
troll in search of attention to inflate his already substantial ego.
Without Usenet, their would be no real meaning in his life. An
admitted hermit, the internet serves as his only real link to the real
world from which he garners a twisted sense of self-importance.

Yup, you must mean your long-winded babble!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 6 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 1:23 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"
[...]
> He's not proposing anything other than slowing down those who do. He
used to say he was on my side, but he must have felt shadowed.

I am NEVER on the side of a fool who keeps proposing the same thing over and
over. Either get original or get lost!

> His Napoleonic Complex is just a caricature of the real thing. But his
IQ seems to be very low as well so he turns to copy and paste. Have
you ever something worth quoting from him?

You've got me confused with yourself. You are a true village idiot!

> In other words, HE'S A CLOWN!

The only clown here is you. Confine your posting to responses and you will
cease to exist for me. A couple of original posts per week from you is OK
(provided they are original and not the same old shit), but one every day is
NOT!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 7 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 3:33 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

On Nov 9, 4:23 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"
> [...]> He's not proposing anything other than slowing down those who do. He
>
> used to say he was on my side, but he must have felt shadowed.
>
> I am NEVER on the side of a fool who keeps proposing the same thing over and
> over. Either get original or get lost!
>
> > His Napoleonic Complex is just a caricature of the real thing. But his
>
> IQ seems to be very low as well so he turns to copy and paste. Have
> you ever something worth quoting from him?
>
> You've got me confused with yourself. You are a true village idiot!
>
> > In other words, HE'S A CLOWN!
>
> The only clown here is you. Confine your posting to responses and you will
> cease to exist for me. A couple of original posts per week from you is OK
> (provided they are original and not the same old shit), but one every day is
> NOT!

Just wondering.

== 8 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 7:47 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:3bf724be-c02a-429f-9bf1-e04e730527a9@d20g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 9, 4:23 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> The only clown here is you. Confine your posting to responses and you will
> cease to exist for me. A couple of original posts per week from you is OK
> (provided they are original and not the same old shit), but one every day
> is
> NOT!

>> Just wondering.

I am not a moderator, but I am not going to let you destroy RBS.

Get with the group. If you can't do that, then get your own blog.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 9 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 8:50 pm
From: Tom Sherman °_°

On 11/9/2010 9:47 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
> I am not a moderator, but I am not going to let you destroy RBS.[...]

Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman already destroyed RBS.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

== 10 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 9:32 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

On Nov 9, 10:47 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3bf724be-c02a-429f-9bf1-e04e730527a9@d20g2000yqg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 9, 4:23 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > The only clown here is you. Confine your posting to responses and you will
> > cease to exist for me. A couple of original posts per week from you is OK
> > (provided they are original and not the same old shit), but one every day
> > is
> > NOT!
> >> Just wondering.
>
> I am not a moderator, but I am not going to let you destroy RBS.
>
> Get with the group. If you can't do that, then get your own blog.

And what's your role in bicycles? Do you ride one or promote its use?

== 11 of 11 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 10:20 pm
From: The Real Bev

On 11/09/10 20:50, Tom Sherman �_� wrote:

> On 11/9/2010 9:47 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
>> I am not a moderator, but I am not going to let you destroy RBS.[...]
>
> Mike "Handsaw" Vandeman already destroyed RBS.

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Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 6:35 am
From: RAMYA

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 7:19 am
From: JimmyMac

On Nov 7, 2:34 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fe73f9d4-a0c1-44bc-83b1-e2b7d5282970@t7g2000vbj.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 6, 12:08 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > The above won't work with me because I am not a stalker like you.
> >> BUT you are!. You have admitted to stalking Tom Sherman and are now
>
> stalking TM. Besides what does one have to do with the other. The
> above should work for any normal rational person. Since it will not
> work for you, then I can only draw one conclusion. You are neither
> normal nor rational.
>
> Tom Sherman was only worth a few royal boots to his sorry ass. I have no
> interest in TM provided he stays on just a few threads like all the rest of
> us. He needs to learn how to be a responder instead of an original poster.
> [...]

Do you ever syan anything refresshingl original instead of repeating
the same old crap?

> > The main problem I have with you is that your ass is no longer worth the
> > effort of kicking it. Unless and until you say something new,
> >> This is a characteristically response from a person who recycles and
>
> regurgitates stuff repeatedly who boldly criticizes another for doing
> what he does best, that is not saying anything new. What we have here
> is a classic example of a coping mechanism at work ... an EGO defense
> mechanism ... projection.
>
> That is for others to decide, not you.

Care to take a poll then?

> You lack perspective with me just as
> you lacked perspective with Ed Gin. It is why you are without a doubt the
> most tiresome person ever to post to Usenet. But that is the besetting sin
> of all stalkers.

This is a characteristically response from a person who recycles and
regurgitates stuff repeatedly who boldly criticizes another for doing
what he does best, that is not saying anything new. What we have here
is a classic example of a coping mechanism at work ... an EGO defense
mechanism ... projection.

> The only sin on Usenet is to be boring. Even Ed Gin was not as boring as you
> are!

With all your recycled, masticated and regurgitated crap, the prize
for quintessential bore is a not even a contest. Step forward and
claim your trophy.

> > Regards,
>
> > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > aka
> > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Nov 9 2010 7:20 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits of the Jungle"

(This is an overall exposition of my ideas, aka Wisdom of the Jungle.
It's not my style to be long, but challenges such as these deserve
proper attention. Perhaps someday school children will be avidly
reading stories of the jungle such as these. I don't think even Dalai
Lama can be this deep --or free)

On Nov 8, 4:44 pm, Deidzoeb <deidz...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 3:29 pm, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Free Spirits
> of the Jungle" <comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 8, 3:02 pm, Deidzoeb <deidz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > The thing is to lay out the SOLUTIONS that even a monkey can follow...
>
> > > I read some kind of anarchist article suggesting that if we organize
> > > communities well enough and they thrive and become really successful,
> > > there would be no need to persuade other people or lobby to change the
> > > system or society or the govt, because people would want to copy those
> > > techniques and make their own communities successful and thriving.
> > > Awesome theory, but I'm afraid some people are so dumb they wouldn't
> > > notice, or so greedy they'd want to keep being capitalists.
>
> > The thing, my friend, is the capitalist lion doesn't want competition.
> > Too many of those tired of our communities breaking down would rather
> > live in a kibbutz or similar enterprise.
>
> Chomsky sometimes mentions kibbutzes as examples of anarchist
> communities that have been successful, although he has said the modern
> ones in Israel have turned right-wing, if I remember correctly. I
> don't know much about them.

They are also places where people move for SAFETY. The lion can't
provide us safety, we must look for ourselves. I'm sure there's no
place for the homeless either. I really don't understand how these
rich capitalist societies can't deal with their own homeless and then
dump the problem to charity. This charity then is tended by the
churches where they manage the food, and WHOEVER CONTROLS THE FOOD,
CONTROLS THE JUNGLE...

(yet another story)

HOW THE LION BENEFITS FROM THE LITTLE ANIMALS' POVERTY

One day all the little animals went up to the King of the Jungle and
complained about their poverty, and in particular about the fact that
every time, during the dry season, they had to travel long distances
to drink the precious fluid, and demanded a WATER WELL be built for
them... They cited how the resources that they contributed to the
kingdom were wasted in WARS and EXTRAVAGANT PROJECTS to the tastes of
the King... He, however, replied with all kinds of excuses: the lack
of resources, that it wasn't a matter of him not wanting it, but that
it was a matter of "priorities" --which was one of his favorite
words...

Meanwhile, an Owl --who had very good eyes-- had been observing life
in the jungle, and thought this way: "Every time there's a dry season
the little animals must come to the little dirty waterhole where the
Lion waits for them... Had they been well fed and strong, he would
have had to run after them and even risk resistance. And, more
importantly, the little animals are forced to fight the Lion's wars as
the quick way out of poverty..."

And that's how the Owl landed an important --and well paid-- post in
the brand new Astronomy Department created by the King of the Jungle --
to the effect of exploring life in other planets...

>
> > One thing we can do is fund
> > and educate the people with Credit Union funds, which is people's
> > money anyway. Imagine that possibility for those surviving at the edge
> > in Mexico. Hey, but there would be no cheap labor for America!
>
> The secret is that we could easily afford products made with expensive
> American labor, and afford to feed, clothe, shelter and educate
> everyone in the world through high school and up to college if we
> chose to spend money on that instead of wars and fantasy missile
> defense systems.

All these issues are as complex as the jungle, so my model helps in
understanding the complexity and inter connectivity of the problem.

Yes, stopping that waste of the lion will help provide water for all.
Notice I'm not for multiplying the aid to Africa. They must grow their
own rice and beans, which they can. We can help them with technologies
and know-how though.

>
> I don't know what the solution is to helping everyone around the world
> have good standards of living, because if we try to keep manufacturing
> jobs in America, are we taking jobs away from Mexico and China and
> elsewhere? I don't think jobs are necessarily the solution anyway,
> because that might be helping capitalists make more for themselves,
> not necessarily helping workers get what they deserve.

Buying a big SUV certainly doesn't help anyone and I'm yet to see
American workers refuse to make them. So let the SUVs go the way of
the dinosaurs along with anyone behind them. I often see towns
dependent on the military industry fight for their jobs. Hey, let them
eat peanuts. :)

>
> Like I see these bumper stickers: "Out of work yet? Keep buying
> foreign."
>
> Okay, I'm glad they acknowledge that the free market is full of fail
> and they need subsidies to keep businesses afloat. (Choosing to buy
> American is like a subsidy, because you're sacrificing some extra
> money to pay for a product you could get cheaper from somewhere else.)
> Although they wouldn't admit it's a subsidy.

You must make a conscious choice as to what lion to feed. Cheaper
prices make you forget you are feeding communism but it's still real.

>
> But let's say I spend an extra couple thousand dollars to buy a Ford
> that gets lower gas mileage and maybe isn't as reliable as a Toyota.
> That would be subsidizing some American workers at Ford, but it's also
> subsidizing American capitalists, people who are going to profit from
> Ford but who don't do any work to deserve it. Why do I need to
> subsidize those parasites? If I was going to subsidize American jobs,
> how about a company that was owned and managed by the workers who
> deserve it.

That's choosing NOT to feed any lion. There was a bicycle manufacturer
from Oregon producing recumbents, but I think the competition from
Taiwan made them quit. I'm not against competition from Taiwan where
they have a better healthcare system than America. They also produce
very good scooters, something we could be using more. (Not sure of
their carbon footprint though.)
>
> I don't know how to boil this idea down to fit on a bumper sticker
> response though. "Still buying American? How's that working out for
> ya? Have they been loyal and kept you working even in hard times? Are
> you supporting the workers or the rich people who can afford to invest
> in Ford?"

And you are feeding Climate Change as well.

>
> Ugh.
>
>
>
> > Here's the lion...
>
> > THE LAW OF THE JUNGLE
>
> > Once upon a time, in the deep jungle, lived a Lion and a Monkey... One
> > day the Monkey, tired of the Lion taking the LION'S SHARE, and seeing
> > that such injustice represented a danger to all, demanded JUSTICE...
> > The Lion, yawning and stretching, said, "You would have to have paws
> > and sharp teeth..." Then the Monkey, who was very clever, devised a
> > plan: He would go to the costume store, and look like a lion...
>
> > When the HUNGRY LION saw him, noticing that the new lion wasn't a
> > match for him, and fearing COMPETITION, killed him on the spot --
> > before the indifferent look of the little animals of the jungle... And
> > that's how the Law of the Jungle was re-established one more time...
> > (NOTE: Other monkeys survived him...)
>
> Yeah, I don't know how we declaw the lions. And violent revolution
> would probably just replace the old lions with some new lions (given
> that the people who could best carry out violent revolutions are lion-
> ish).

We must pacify the beast and give him a banana, a symbol of peace in
the jungle. ;)

>
> Dude, have you read any stories by Subcomandante Marcos? He writes
> little parables about cockroaches and stuff, they're pretty cute and
> manage to get across political ideas. Sounds right up your alley. Or
> maybe that's where you read some of this?

These jungle stories are mine and have led to this funny character of
Wise TibetanMonkey. Well, even Buddha is being questioned. They gave
me a tough choice: "Do you want to be a Monk and live without sex?"
And I said, "No way, I'd rather be a Monkey!"

Anyway, I haven't read SubComandante Marcos --I'm ComandanteBanana--
but have read this Mexican writer, whose most famous story I
reproduce:

The story reads, in its entirety:

Cuando despertó, el dinosaurio todavía estaba allí.
("When [s]he awoke, the dinosaur was still there.")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Monterroso

***

Don't you wished this DINOSAUR went away? ;)

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Wednesday, November 10, 2010

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 13 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 22 new messages in 11 topics - digest