Thursday, September 30, 2010

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 3 new messages in 3 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate and the denizens of Usenet - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d833df279e38cde8?hl=en
* Obama should have sacrificed the Sacred Cows - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/797fafb84df52682?hl=en
* While the Dutch are happily riding bikes, here people is talking BS - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/c8669fcf3bad5b21?hl=en

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TOPIC: Mr. Ed Dolan the Grate and the denizens of Usenet
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d833df279e38cde8?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 8:32 pm
From: Tom Sherman °_°


On 9/29/2010 9:52 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Tom Sherman °_°"<twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
> news:i80qrf$j9p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 9/29/2010 8:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "JimmyMac"<jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:db8aed69-c0d3-4716-a8dd-8ed326cd79c3@26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Sep 29, 2:35 am, "Edward Dolan"<edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> I did slave labor like that when I was in the Navy. But hard labor is
>>>> something to escape from. Anyone who takes pride in being a hard worker
>>>> is
>>>> some kind of moron.
>>>
>>>>> Let me see if I have this right. Cerebral work is not hard work and
>>> should be disdained because it is not hard, but, then again, hard (ie
>>> [i.e.,]
>>> physical) work is to be avoided because it is hard. I guess then all
>>> work, of any type, is to be disdained, avoided and one should not take
>>> pride in working but rather pride in avoiding work of any kind.
>>> Irrationality reigns and the conundrum continues. So who is the moron
>>> here? Readers cast your votes.
>>>
>>> The key word is "hard". If something is hard for you to do, whether
>>> mental
>>> or physical, then you are a moron for doing it. Since you are a moron,
>>> everything you have ever set out to do has been hard for you. Since I am
>>> not
>>> a moron, everything I have ever set out to do has been easy, in fact,
>>> child's play.
>>>
>>> Folks who take pride in having worked hard deserve nothing but disdain. I
>>> mock them as they deserve to be mocked. Whoever said life should be hard?
>>> Life should be easy. I knew this by the time I was 17. I have spent my
>>> life
>>> avoiding anything that was hard
>>
>> Because:
>>
>> A: Ed Dolan could not handle hard work if he tried.
>
> I tried while in the Navy ... did not like it, so I quit!
>
>> B: With his personality, Ed Dolan could not keep a job even if it meant
>> starving otherwise.
>
> Jobs are for slaves like Tom Sherman, not for free living souls like Myself!
>
Ed means "free loading souls".

>> Ed Dolan has spent his life living off the income of investments made by
>> his harder working forebears.
>
> Nope, my forebears did not work hard either. I come from a long line of
> smart people who knew how to live without working hard.
>
NB: I wrote "harder", not "hard".

>>> and I have never regretted it for one
>>> moment. Soon enough we are all dead and if you have not found life to be
>>> easy, then go to Hell with all your kind!
>>>
>> Mr. Ed Dolan makes the best argument yet for confiscatory inheritance
>> taxes - they would eliminate the parasites from society.
>
> Where does Mr. Sherman think capital comes from? No investment, and we all
> end up living like Soviet workers.
>
That would certainly be more fair.

>> Work or starve, I say.
>
> Nonsense. Not everyone needs to work, only those who seem to prefer it to a
> life of leisure.
>
> A life of leisure is easily within reach of any American. All you have to do
> is never marry, never have children, do not buy a house or a new car, and,
> in short, do not ever spend a penny you do not absolutely have to spend.
> Jeez, I would have thought even a jerk like Tom Sherman would have been able
> figure this much out on his own.
>
Sorry Ed, but most USians need to work full time even if they just want
to eat a subsistence diet and have a place to live. Cheap housing
(boarding houses, etc) have disappeared, and even a 150 square foot room
with shared kitchen and bathroom is not that cheap. The same could be
said for a liver and sauerkraut [1] diet.

Mr. Ed Dolan is sadly divorced from the contemporary real world.

[1] Reportedly the least expensive nutritionally adequate diet.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

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TOPIC: Obama should have sacrificed the Sacred Cows
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/797fafb84df52682?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 8:37 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


(somebody says he saw me on my bike)

On Sep 29, 6:51 pm, "Charles Grozny" <n5...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Or at least two of his stupid family.
>
> From Roselle to Huntingdon along Central there is a bike path very close to
> the road. But instead of using the bike path, Monkey Stretcher had to ride
> along the edge of the regular road and f*** up traffic. (no shoulder along
> that partiuclar stretch, it's one of the reasons they put in the bike path!)
> And there's his brother going the other way on the other side of the road.
> This at 6 PM and the tail end of the rush hour.
>
> Charles Grozny

Wise Tibetan Monkey is smart enough NOT to ride a bike until the other
monkeys come out. Where are they?

We will take the lane as it was meant to be. No species is better than
us just because they are bigger.


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TOPIC: While the Dutch are happily riding bikes, here people is talking BS
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 9:30 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


While the Dutch are happily riding bikes, here people is talking BS
about whether or not you need separate facilities. It's simple: the
Dutch way or give the whole fucking lane to the cyclist. TAKE THE LANE
and end of story. No more, finito, ciao, hasta la vista!

BLAH, BLAH, BLAH...


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THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS

"No bull, just sacrifice the Sacred Cows"

http://webspawner.com/users/BIKEFORPEACE


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Wednesday, September 29, 2010

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 7 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* The most suitable adhesive - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/34352ca04bfed3ba?hl=en
* UPS screwing with my medicine - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/52e2fdabac430e07?hl=en
* My prayers for red-light cameras have been answered! - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3b164c61fd23180f?hl=en
* If Europe knew about the TibetanMonkey, there would be no riots! - 5
messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1ee07b32c92fbb9a?hl=en
* why would 1 room in our house always be hottor or colder than rest? - 2
messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d65c170f7f625cb1?hl=en
* Obama should have sacrificed the Sacred Cows - 8 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/797fafb84df52682?hl=en
* Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet - 5 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d833df279e38cde8?hl=en

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TOPIC: The most suitable adhesive
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/34352ca04bfed3ba?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 8:22 am
From: "Robin"


> Shoe Goop. It should be available at most hard ware stores.
>

I don't mean to take the p but did you possibly mean Shoe Goo? (See eg
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shoe-Goo-Repair-Adhesive-Clear/dp/B0030ZULM4/ref=sr_1_1?s=shoes&ie=UTF8&qid=1285773424&sr=1-1)
If so I swear by it for repairs to all sorts of things (soles, heels,
rucksacks, tool rolls etc etc) but I wouldn't turn to it for sticking
soles on.
--
Robin
PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:47 pm
From: watcher


On 2010-09-29, john hamilton <bluestar95@mail.invalid> wrote:
> I'm trying to find out the best adhesive for gluing leather shoes back on
> to a rubber sole.
>
> I know the polyurethane adhesive that came in tubes for gluing on 'stick on
> soles' that we got from Woolworths was very good, but even if i could buy it
> now, it was expensive for just a smallish tube.
>
> Looking on some sites that supply to the shoe trade, I can see that they
> sell: Neoprene cement, rubber solution, synthetic vinyl cement and
> polyurethane.
>
> Does anyone have an idea which would be the best bet, without it costing a
> fortune?
>
> I know that the polyurethane glue i used from Woolworths was very good, but
> i'm thinking that buying a litre tin (which is the smallest quantity i've
> seen for sale on these sites) might well all dry up quite quickly since my
> rate of using it will be quite slow.
> Thanks for any help.


I have a pair of insulated boots whose soles detached a couple of years ago.
I simply put them back on using ordinary contact cement, and they've been fine
ever since.

W.

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TOPIC: UPS screwing with my medicine
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/52e2fdabac430e07?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 8:57 am
From: "h"

"Mrs Irish Mike" <wilma6116@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1c0d8d39-bb36-4aca-a18a-64760a0a1fc2@x20g2000pro.googlegroups.com...

> I've had two packages go missing, both 'delivered' by FedEx. I have
> cancled orders once I learned they were being shipped FedEx.

I've stopped ordering from some of my favorite suppliers because they would
ONLY ship FedEx ground, and I told them why. For the life of me, I can't
figure out why anyone uses FedEx ground. It costs a lot more than the USPS,
and the packages would arrive faster if they sprouted legs and walked here.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 11:44 am
From: pod


The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote in
news:i7qmus$kck$1@news.eternal-september.org:

> On 09/27/10 06:29, h wrote:
>
>> "The Real Bev"<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never had a problem with ANY carrier's package
delivery --
>>> going or coming. The USPS and first-class mail is, of
course, very
>>> different. The businesses across the street used to have
a rubber
>>> stamp -- "This mail mistakenly delivered to Bell&
Howell" (or
>>> whatever business occupied the building at the time).
It didn't
>>> stop until the building was torn down, but now we get
mail
>>> addressed to our neighbors and vice versa.
>>
>> Weird. The best shipping company, without a doubt, is the
USPS...
>
> They're fine for packages, it's just first-class mail they
screw up.
> Or maybe ALL mail. We sent something in an envelope
overnight or
> special delivery or something that required a signature
(long time
> ago) which we didn't hear about when we thought we should.
The USPS
> told us that they couldn't even begin a trace until a month
later.
> Eventually it turned up, but this caused more anxiety than
we wanted
> to deal with.
>
> I'm really glad that banks offer free bill-pay services
now.
>

Made a formal complaint against United Parcel Service, aka
UPS today with the Federal Trade Commission for tampering
with my medications en route. UPS is without a doubt one of
the most irresponsible and corrupt companies in the market
today. When the new Federal consumer protection agency gets
going, I will complain to them as well about this horseshit
company. Let's see if the Obama Admin is serious about
reining in bad companies.

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TOPIC: My prayers for red-light cameras have been answered!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3b164c61fd23180f?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 10:15 am
From: "Paul - xxx"


In news:qtc6a6563og6tp14a9pqovibjv8cp630eo@4ax.com, dgk
<dgk@somewhere.com> said:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:06:54 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
> <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> In news:i7v26t$23e$1@news.eternal-september.org, Simon Lewis
>> <simonlewis2001@gmail.com> said:
>>> "Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> dgk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as
>>>>> drivers break sharply to avoid tickets.
>>>>
>>>> In all my years and miles of driving and cycling I've never seen a
>>>> rear-end collision as a result of someone braking for a red light
>>>> or for a red light camera.
>>>
>>> Then you haven't been driving for many years. It happens all the
>>> time.
>>
>> I've been driving legally for about 33 years, cycling for about 46.
>>
>>> Its what happens when people drive too fast, suddenly brake and the
>>> other person behind, as happens all too often, isnt the regulatory
>>> distance back.
>>
>> Nope, never seen a rear-ender due to someone braking for a red
>> light, or a camera. I've seen rear enders in traffic and on
>> motorways and under other circumstances ...
>
> I'm glad for you. I haven't seen it either. But that is what we call
> anecdotal evidence. The statistics are here:

Did I say any different?

> http://thenewspaper.com/news/18/1844.asp
>
> I haven't seen anyone get struck by lightning but I understand that it
> does happen.

Now I _have_ seen someone struck by lightning .. ;)

--
Paul - xxx

mobile ...

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TOPIC: If Europe knew about the TibetanMonkey, there would be no riots!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/1ee07b32c92fbb9a?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 10:51 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


(This is the way to survive a regular crisis in the capitalist jungle
without losing control. At least we should be able to come out the
cage and ride a bike, right?)

That's because the Wisdom of the TibetanMonkey is all about austerity,
not consumerism, meaning you can be happy with peanuts. Look at what
the unwise monkeys are doing in Europe...

"Anti-austerity protests sweep across Europe"

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100929/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_europe_austerity_protests

Electricity costs? Dump the large screen TV and get a bunch of
parakeets or a mouse to entertain you. Transportation costs? Ride a
bike! Too hot? Get a hammock. Too cold? Get a girlfriend, if you
already don't have one. Can't get a girlfriend? Masturbate for peace!

I may have to go and lecture there. What's the going rate for the
Dalai Lama to give speeches?


---------------------------------------------------------------

"Praying for prosperity won't help. Only wisdom can bring inner peace"

http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION

http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE


== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 4:47 pm
From: Forrest Hodge


On 9/29/2010 1:51 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle wrote:
> (This is the way to survive a regular crisis in the capitalist jungle
> without losing control. At least we should be able to come out the
> cage and ride a bike, right?)
>
> That's because the Wisdom of the TibetanMonkey is all about austerity,
> not consumerism, meaning you can be happy with peanuts. Look at what
> the unwise monkeys are doing in Europe...
>
> "Anti-austerity protests sweep across Europe"
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100929/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_europe_austerity_protests
>
> Electricity costs? Dump the large screen TV and get a bunch of
> parakeets or a mouse to entertain you. Transportation costs? Ride a
> bike! Too hot? Get a hammock. Too cold? Get a girlfriend, if you
> already don't have one. Can't get a girlfriend? Masturbate for peace!
>
> I may have to go and lecture there. What's the going rate for the
> Dalai Lama to give speeches?
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Praying for prosperity won't help. Only wisdom can bring inner peace"
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE

Or they could just have a more realistic sense of entitlement.


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:07 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 29, 4:47 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/29/2010 1:51 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> > (This is the way to survive a regular crisis in the capitalist jungle
> > without losing control. At least we should be able to come out the
> > cage and ride a bike, right?)
>
> > That's because the Wisdom of the TibetanMonkey is all about austerity,
> > not consumerism, meaning you can be happy with peanuts. Look at what
> > the unwise monkeys are doing in Europe...
>
> > "Anti-austerity protests sweep across Europe"
>
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100929/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_europe_austerity_p...
>
> > Electricity costs? Dump the large screen TV and get a bunch of
> > parakeets or a mouse to entertain you. Transportation costs? Ride a
> > bike! Too hot? Get a hammock. Too cold? Get a girlfriend, if you
> > already don't have one. Can't get a girlfriend? Masturbate for peace!
>
> > I may have to go and lecture there. What's the going rate for the
> > Dalai Lama to give speeches?
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> > "Praying for prosperity won't help. Only wisdom can bring inner peace"
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> >http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE
>
> Or they could just have a more realistic sense of entitlement.

Americans would riot over gas taxes where they riot over retirement
age. If there were riots against chaotic traffic, you could count me
in. ;)


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 7:01 pm
From: Forrest Hodge


On 9/29/2010 9:07 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
the Jungle wrote:
> On Sep 29, 4:47 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 9/29/2010 1:51 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>>
>>
>>
>> the Jungle wrote:
>>> (This is the way to survive a regular crisis in the capitalist jungle
>>> without losing control. At least we should be able to come out the
>>> cage and ride a bike, right?)
>>
>>> That's because the Wisdom of the TibetanMonkey is all about austerity,
>>> not consumerism, meaning you can be happy with peanuts. Look at what
>>> the unwise monkeys are doing in Europe...
>>
>>> "Anti-austerity protests sweep across Europe"
>>
>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100929/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_europe_austerity_p...
>>
>>> Electricity costs? Dump the large screen TV and get a bunch of
>>> parakeets or a mouse to entertain you. Transportation costs? Ride a
>>> bike! Too hot? Get a hammock. Too cold? Get a girlfriend, if you
>>> already don't have one. Can't get a girlfriend? Masturbate for peace!
>>
>>> I may have to go and lecture there. What's the going rate for the
>>> Dalai Lama to give speeches?
>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>> "Praying for prosperity won't help. Only wisdom can bring inner peace"
>>
>>> http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>>
>>> http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE
>>
>> Or they could just have a more realistic sense of entitlement.
>
> Americans would riot over gas taxes where they riot over retirement
> age. If there were riots against chaotic traffic, you could count me
> in. ;)

Keep in mind the gas prices in Europe are artificially high due to
taxes. The wholesale price of a barrel of crude is about the same
everywhere in the world. As for retirement age, it's not the
government's job to finance your retirement, it's your personal
responsibility. I know social security won't be around when it's time
for me to call it quits. I've had a retirement fund setup for myself
since I was 20.


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 7:23 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 29, 7:01 pm, Forrest Hodge <f...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 9/29/2010 9:07 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> > On Sep 29, 4:47 pm, Forrest Hodge<f...@hotmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On 9/29/2010 1:51 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey&  the Spirits of
>
> >> the Jungle wrote:
> >>> (This is the way to survive a regular crisis in the capitalist jungle
> >>> without losing control. At least we should be able to come out the
> >>> cage and ride a bike, right?)
>
> >>> That's because the Wisdom of the TibetanMonkey is all about austerity,
> >>> not consumerism, meaning you can be happy with peanuts. Look at what
> >>> the unwise monkeys are doing in Europe...
>
> >>> "Anti-austerity protests sweep across Europe"
>
> >>>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100929/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_europe_austerity_p...
>
> >>> Electricity costs? Dump the large screen TV and get a bunch of
> >>> parakeets or a mouse to entertain you. Transportation costs? Ride a
> >>> bike! Too hot? Get a hammock. Too cold? Get a girlfriend, if you
> >>> already don't have one. Can't get a girlfriend? Masturbate for peace!
>
> >>> I may have to go and lecture there. What's the going rate for the
> >>> Dalai Lama to give speeches?
>
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------
>
> >>> "Praying for prosperity won't help. Only wisdom can bring inner peace"
>
> >>>http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
>
> >>>http://webspawner.com/users/MASTURBATIONFORPEACE
>
> >> Or they could just have a more realistic sense of entitlement.
>
> > Americans would riot over gas taxes where they riot over retirement
> > age. If there were riots against chaotic traffic, you could count me
> > in. ;)
>
> Keep in mind the gas prices in Europe are artificially high due to
> taxes. The wholesale price of a barrel of crude is about the same
> everywhere in the world.

I thought they were kept artificially low here. Anyway we need to
downsize our cars and consumption.

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TOPIC: why would 1 room in our house always be hottor or colder than rest?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d65c170f7f625cb1?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 5:13 pm
From: Ohioguy


> From personal experience I can tell you that insilation makes a big
> difference. I had a room like you describe. When I went into the
> attic I found gaps in the insilation and one entire rafter bay
> was uninsulated. 2 rolls of fiberglass made a huge difference.


Thanks, guys. Looks like I need to make this a more quantitative
comparison by using a thermometer, and taking readings between the rooms
at different times of days.

Now that the temps are a bit lower, I'll also go up into the attic
and take a look there. If I do it with someone tapping with a broom in
that room, I should be able to get a better idea of exactly where I am.

I may also try taking temps of the exterior walls. Not sure exactly
the best way to do that, but perhaps take my son's slightly insulated
lunchbox, put the open side against the wall, and thermometer in there?
I'm guessing that if 1 room is less insulated than the other, then
that room would have a lower temp faster than on a cool day.

I may end up needing to blow some of that cellulose insulation into
the wall for that room. The only other alternative I can think of would
be to totally rip out the drywall, put in new roll insulation, and then
new drywall. That would be a shame, since it was all just spackled and
painted.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:50 pm
From: "Bob F"


Ohioguy wrote:
> I may also try taking temps of the exterior walls. Not sure exactly
> the best way to do that, but perhaps take my son's slightly insulated
> lunchbox, put the open side against the wall, and thermometer in
> there? I'm guessing that if 1 room is less insulated than the other,
> then that room would have a lower temp faster than on a cool day.

Harbor freight frequently has a thermometer on sale goy $10 that you just point
at something and push the button.

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TOPIC: Obama should have sacrificed the Sacred Cows
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:16 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


"Sacred cows make the best hamburger."

http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/03/sacred_cow.html

On Sep 29, 9:33 am, bolwerk <n...@way.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:10:25 -0700, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the
> Spirits of the Jungle wrote:

> > Chavez' socialism allows you to fill up a gas guzzler's tank with two
> > bucks. Something most Americans don't know or else they would turn
> > socialist.
>
> Almost any time an American, particularly a Republikan, complains about
> socialism you can safely bet he's just blustering. If you drive
> regularly in the USA (and probably Canada), you already are enjoying the
> fruits of Chavez-style nationalized saloon socialism. It's not even
> politically controversial, as long as you don't call it for what it is.

We are in deep crisis, no doubt about it. And yet the solution is so
simple... sacrifice the Sacred Cows.

Sacred Cow #1: TAXATION

Sacred Cow #2: CHEAP GAS

Tax gas and the problem is solved... but that's political suicide. ;)

That's the dilemma of democracy and socialism.


------------------------------------------------------------------

THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS

"Never place a Holy Cow in the middle of a hungry multitude"

http://webspawner/com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION


== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:51 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"


"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:10b8024c-a6f1-44c6-b546-e46456e287e5@a36g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> "Sacred cows make the best hamburger."
>
> http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/03/sacred_cow.html
>
> On Sep 29, 9:33 am, bolwerk <n...@way.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 07:10:25 -0700, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the
>> Spirits of the Jungle wrote:
>
>> > Chavez' socialism allows you to fill up a gas guzzler's tank with two
>> > bucks. Something most Americans don't know or else they would turn
>> > socialist.
>>
>> Almost any time an American, particularly a Republikan, complains about
>> socialism you can safely bet he's just blustering. If you drive
>> regularly in the USA (and probably Canada), you already are enjoying the
>> fruits of Chavez-style nationalized saloon socialism. It's not even
>> politically controversial, as long as you don't call it for what it is.
>
> We are in deep crisis, no doubt about it. And yet the solution is so
> simple... sacrifice the Sacred Cows.
>
> Sacred Cow #1: TAXATION
>
> Sacred Cow #2: CHEAP GAS
>
> Tax gas and the problem is solved... but that's political suicide. ;)
>
> That's the dilemma of democracy and socialism.

TM is a poor crazy bastard who just posts on his one favorite subject -
hatred of motor vehicles because they interfere with his use of the roads.
His other favorite subject is attacking Christianity. If you respond to this
poor crazy bastard, then you are a poor crazy bastard too.

He likes to reference monkeys and other wild animals normally found only in
zoos because he is most likely a wild beast himself. I think he fornicates
with monkeys, but I can't prove it.

TM should confine himself to just one thread instead of proliferating them
like a poor crazy bastard. He is insane of course. I liken him to the
village idiot of olden times. The difference these days is that no one any
longer recognizes the village idiot because idiocy has become so widespread.

But I will be here to remind one and all of what a poor crazy bastard TM is.
It is mark of My Greatness that I can still recognize the village idiot even
if the rest of you can't.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 7:04 pm
From: Tom Sherman °_°


On 9/29/2010 8:51 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of the Jungle"
> <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> [snip monkey poo]
>
> [snip repetitive Dolan cut and paste]
>
Mr. Ed Dolan is too lazy to even come up with an original response to
Commandant Monkey Poo. Best to ignore them both, other than the mild
entertainment of poking Dolan with a figurative stick.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


== 4 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 7:12 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 29, 7:04 pm, Tom Sherman °_°
<twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote:
> On 9/29/2010 8:51 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey&  the Spirits of the Jungle"
> > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>  wrote in message
> > [snip monkey poo]
>
> > [snip repetitive Dolan cut and paste]
>
> Mr. Ed Dolan is too lazy to even come up with an original response to
> Commandant Monkey Poo.  Best to ignore them both, other than the mild
> entertainment of poking Dolan with a figurative stick.

If I were Ed, I'd be offended.

== 5 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 7:22 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:i80r73$mdh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 9/29/2010 8:51 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of the Jungle"
>> <nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> [snip monkey poo]
>>
>> [snip repetitive Dolan cut and paste]
>>
> Mr. Ed Dolan is too lazy to even come up with an original response to
> Commandant Monkey Poo. Best to ignore them both, other than the mild
> entertainment of poking Dolan with a figurative stick.

Anyone who has been here for awhile and reads my cut and paste is an idiot.
The purpose of it is to discourage newbies from responding to TM, who
forever just proliferates threads on a single topic. As long as he does what
he does, I shall do what I do.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


== 6 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 7:29 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 29, 7:22 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in messagenews:i80r73$mdh$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > On 9/29/2010 8:51 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey&  the Spirits of the Jungle"
> >> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com>  wrote in message
> >> [snip monkey poo]
>
> >> [snip repetitive Dolan cut and paste]
>
> > Mr. Ed Dolan is too lazy to even come up with an original response to
> > Commandant Monkey Poo.  Best to ignore them both, other than the mild
> > entertainment of poking Dolan with a figurative stick.
>
> Anyone who has been here for awhile and reads my cut and paste is an idiot.
> The purpose of it is to discourage newbies from responding to TM, who
> forever just proliferates threads on a single topic. As long as he does what
> he does, I shall do what I do.

I'm not an idiot. You are calling him an idiot.

What do you think of the Sacred Cows?


== 7 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 7:29 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"


"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"
<nolionnoproblem@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:11610626-bb0e-4c30-a817-86a93ea36769@a19g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 29, 7:04 pm, Tom Sherman °_°
<twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote:
> On 9/29/2010 8:51 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:> "His Highness the
> TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of the Jungle"
> > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > [snip monkey poo]
>
> > [snip repetitive Dolan cut and paste]
>
> Mr. Ed Dolan is too lazy to even come up with an original response to
> Commandant Monkey Poo. Best to ignore them both, other than the mild
> entertainment of poking Dolan with a figurative stick.

>>> If I were Ed, I'd be offended.

Tom Sherman is not a poor crazy bastard. He is often wrongheaded, but he is
not stupid. You are both a poor crazy bastard and stupid. In fact, you are
so g.d. stupid I do not believe it is possible to offend you.

Stop proliferating threads. Mr. Sherman thinks it all just monkey poo, but
you no doubt missed that evaluation of your shit.

Fucking Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


== 8 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 7:32 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 29, 7:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:11610626-bb0e-4c30-a817-86a93ea36769@a19g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 29, 7:04 pm, Tom Sherman °_°
>
> <twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote:
> > On 9/29/2010 8:51 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:> "His Highness the
> > TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of the Jungle"
> > > <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > [snip monkey poo]
>
> > > [snip repetitive Dolan cut and paste]
>
> > Mr. Ed Dolan is too lazy to even come up with an original response to
> > Commandant Monkey Poo. Best to ignore them both, other than the mild
> > entertainment of poking Dolan with a figurative stick.
> >>> If I were Ed, I'd be offended.
>
> Tom Sherman is not a poor crazy bastard. He is often wrongheaded, but he is
> not stupid. You are both a poor crazy bastard and stupid. In fact, you are
> so g.d. stupid I do not believe it is possible to offend you.
>
> Stop proliferating threads. Mr. Sherman thinks it all just monkey poo, but
> you no doubt missed that evaluation of your shit.
>

That's part of my name... the "Monkey with the Bag of Shit," remember?

It's to throw at the system. ;)


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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:27 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"


"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e82c6310-2d6a-4bc8-b2d6-4eaa54336ac5@i3g2000yql.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 28, 12:32 pm, Tom Sherman °_°
<twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote:
> On 9/28/2010 5:41 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
> > I have given Mr. Sherman exactly what he deserves and he knows it better
> > than you. His liberal-socialist-communist views stink to high heaven. It
> > is
> > hilarious that he somehow regards himself as a working man when he is in
> > fact a civil engineer. It is almost as funny are your idiotic job as an
> > IT
> > specialist. Neither one of you would know what a hard days work is all
> > about.

>>> Apparently, from his response, Tom begs to differ.

>>> Say there, Conan the Librarian, you lugubrious laggard and parasitic
sloth, you should perform a hard days one day so that you can
formulate an opinion regarding what that entails before spewing your
ill-conceived disdain of the working man. For what it's worth,
working with the mind can be harder than working with the body. I've
done both and know what hard work is. As a profession, where do you
think lackadaisical troglodyte internet troll ranks with civil
engineer and IT specialist? Never mind ... rhetorical.

If the Internet were properly designed there would be no need for IT
specialists (does radio or TV have IT specialists?). If you had a brain in
your head instead of just hard work to fall back on, maybe you could have
come up with a better way for computers to talk to one another on the
Internet without the necessity of having a lot of asshole IT specialists
around to constantly be fixing the g.d. fucking thing.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:41 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"

"JimmyMac" <jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:db8aed69-c0d3-4716-a8dd-8ed326cd79c3@26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 29, 2:35 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
[...]
> I did slave labor like that when I was in the Navy. But hard labor is
> something to escape from. Anyone who takes pride in being a hard worker is
> some kind of moron.

>> Let me see if I have this right. Cerebral work is not hard work and
should be disdained because it is not hard, but, then again, hard (ie
[i.e.,]
physical) work is to be avoided because it is hard. I guess then all
work, of any type, is to be disdained, avoided and one should not take
pride in working but rather pride in avoiding work of any kind.
Irrationality reigns and the conundrum continues. So who is the moron
here? Readers cast your votes.

The key word is "hard". If something is hard for you to do, whether mental
or physical, then you are a moron for doing it. Since you are a moron,
everything you have ever set out to do has been hard for you. Since I am not
a moron, everything I have ever set out to do has been easy, in fact,
child's play.

Folks who take pride in having worked hard deserve nothing but disdain. I
mock them as they deserve to be mocked. Whoever said life should be hard?
Life should be easy. I knew this by the time I was 17. I have spent my life
avoiding anything that was hard and I have never regretted it for one
moment. Soon enough we are all dead and if you have not found life to be
easy, then go to Hell with all your kind!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:58 pm
From: Tom Sherman °_°


On 9/29/2010 8:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "JimmyMac"<jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:db8aed69-c0d3-4716-a8dd-8ed326cd79c3@26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 29, 2:35 am, "Edward Dolan"<edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>> I did slave labor like that when I was in the Navy. But hard labor is
>> something to escape from. Anyone who takes pride in being a hard worker is
>> some kind of moron.
>
>>> Let me see if I have this right. Cerebral work is not hard work and
> should be disdained because it is not hard, but, then again, hard (ie
> [i.e.,]
> physical) work is to be avoided because it is hard. I guess then all
> work, of any type, is to be disdained, avoided and one should not take
> pride in working but rather pride in avoiding work of any kind.
> Irrationality reigns and the conundrum continues. So who is the moron
> here? Readers cast your votes.
>
> The key word is "hard". If something is hard for you to do, whether mental
> or physical, then you are a moron for doing it. Since you are a moron,
> everything you have ever set out to do has been hard for you. Since I am not
> a moron, everything I have ever set out to do has been easy, in fact,
> child's play.
>
> Folks who take pride in having worked hard deserve nothing but disdain. I
> mock them as they deserve to be mocked. Whoever said life should be hard?
> Life should be easy. I knew this by the time I was 17. I have spent my life
> avoiding anything that was hard

Because:

A: Ed Dolan could not handle hard work if he tried.

B: With his personality, Ed Dolan could not keep a job even if it meant
starving otherwise.

Ed Dolan has spent his life living off the income of investments made by
his harder working forebears.

> and I have never regretted it for one
> moment. Soon enough we are all dead and if you have not found life to be
> easy, then go to Hell with all your kind!
>
Mr. Ed Dolan makes the best argument yet for confiscatory inheritance
taxes - they would eliminate the parasites from society.

Work or starve, I say.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 7:52 pm
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:i80qrf$j9p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 9/29/2010 8:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> "JimmyMac"<jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:db8aed69-c0d3-4716-a8dd-8ed326cd79c3@26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
>> On Sep 29, 2:35 am, "Edward Dolan"<edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>> [...]
>>> I did slave labor like that when I was in the Navy. But hard labor is
>>> something to escape from. Anyone who takes pride in being a hard worker
>>> is
>>> some kind of moron.
>>
>>>> Let me see if I have this right. Cerebral work is not hard work and
>> should be disdained because it is not hard, but, then again, hard (ie
>> [i.e.,]
>> physical) work is to be avoided because it is hard. I guess then all
>> work, of any type, is to be disdained, avoided and one should not take
>> pride in working but rather pride in avoiding work of any kind.
>> Irrationality reigns and the conundrum continues. So who is the moron
>> here? Readers cast your votes.
>>
>> The key word is "hard". If something is hard for you to do, whether
>> mental
>> or physical, then you are a moron for doing it. Since you are a moron,
>> everything you have ever set out to do has been hard for you. Since I am
>> not
>> a moron, everything I have ever set out to do has been easy, in fact,
>> child's play.
>>
>> Folks who take pride in having worked hard deserve nothing but disdain. I
>> mock them as they deserve to be mocked. Whoever said life should be hard?
>> Life should be easy. I knew this by the time I was 17. I have spent my
>> life
>> avoiding anything that was hard
>
> Because:
>
> A: Ed Dolan could not handle hard work if he tried.

I tried while in the Navy ... did not like it, so I quit!

> B: With his personality, Ed Dolan could not keep a job even if it meant
> starving otherwise.

Jobs are for slaves like Tom Sherman, not for free living souls like Myself!

> Ed Dolan has spent his life living off the income of investments made by
> his harder working forebears.

Nope, my forebears did not work hard either. I come from a long line of
smart people who knew how to live without working hard.

>> and I have never regretted it for one
>> moment. Soon enough we are all dead and if you have not found life to be
>> easy, then go to Hell with all your kind!
>>
> Mr. Ed Dolan makes the best argument yet for confiscatory inheritance
> taxes - they would eliminate the parasites from society.

Where does Mr. Sherman think capital comes from? No investment, and we all
end up living like Soviet workers.

> Work or starve, I say.

Nonsense. Not everyone needs to work, only those who seem to prefer it to a
life of leisure.

A life of leisure is easily within reach of any American. All you have to do
is never marry, never have children, do not buy a house or a new car, and,
in short, do not ever spend a penny you do not absolutely have to spend.
Jeez, I would have thought even a jerk like Tom Sherman would have been able
figure this much out on his own.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 8:32 pm
From: Tom Sherman °_°


On 9/29/2010 9:52 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> "Tom Sherman °_°"<twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
> news:i80qrf$j9p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 9/29/2010 8:41 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>>> "JimmyMac"<jimmymac_4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:db8aed69-c0d3-4716-a8dd-8ed326cd79c3@26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
>>> On Sep 29, 2:35 am, "Edward Dolan"<edo...@iw.net> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> I did slave labor like that when I was in the Navy. But hard labor is
>>>> something to escape from. Anyone who takes pride in being a hard worker
>>>> is
>>>> some kind of moron.
>>>
>>>>> Let me see if I have this right. Cerebral work is not hard work and
>>> should be disdained because it is not hard, but, then again, hard (ie
>>> [i.e.,]
>>> physical) work is to be avoided because it is hard. I guess then all
>>> work, of any type, is to be disdained, avoided and one should not take
>>> pride in working but rather pride in avoiding work of any kind.
>>> Irrationality reigns and the conundrum continues. So who is the moron
>>> here? Readers cast your votes.
>>>
>>> The key word is "hard". If something is hard for you to do, whether
>>> mental
>>> or physical, then you are a moron for doing it. Since you are a moron,
>>> everything you have ever set out to do has been hard for you. Since I am
>>> not
>>> a moron, everything I have ever set out to do has been easy, in fact,
>>> child's play.
>>>
>>> Folks who take pride in having worked hard deserve nothing but disdain. I
>>> mock them as they deserve to be mocked. Whoever said life should be hard?
>>> Life should be easy. I knew this by the time I was 17. I have spent my
>>> life
>>> avoiding anything that was hard
>>
>> Because:
>>
>> A: Ed Dolan could not handle hard work if he tried.
>
> I tried while in the Navy ... did not like it, so I quit!
>
>> B: With his personality, Ed Dolan could not keep a job even if it meant
>> starving otherwise.
>
> Jobs are for slaves like Tom Sherman, not for free living souls like Myself!
>
Ed means "free loading souls".

>> Ed Dolan has spent his life living off the income of investments made by
>> his harder working forebears.
>
> Nope, my forebears did not work hard either. I come from a long line of
> smart people who knew how to live without working hard.
>
NB: I wrote "harder", not "hard".

>>> and I have never regretted it for one
>>> moment. Soon enough we are all dead and if you have not found life to be
>>> easy, then go to Hell with all your kind!
>>>
>> Mr. Ed Dolan makes the best argument yet for confiscatory inheritance
>> taxes - they would eliminate the parasites from society.
>
> Where does Mr. Sherman think capital comes from? No investment, and we all
> end up living like Soviet workers.
>
That would certainly be more fair.

>> Work or starve, I say.
>
> Nonsense. Not everyone needs to work, only those who seem to prefer it to a
> life of leisure.
>
> A life of leisure is easily within reach of any American. All you have to do
> is never marry, never have children, do not buy a house or a new car, and,
> in short, do not ever spend a penny you do not absolutely have to spend.
> Jeez, I would have thought even a jerk like Tom Sherman would have been able
> figure this much out on his own.
>
Sorry Ed, but most USians need to work full time even if they just want
to eat a subsistence diet and have a place to live. Cheap housing
(boarding houses, etc) have disappeared, and even a 150 square foot room
with shared kitchen and bathroom is not that cheap. The same could be
said for a liver and sauerkraut [1] diet.

Mr. Ed Dolan is sadly divorced from the contemporary real world.

[1] Reportedly the least expensive nutritionally adequate diet.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.


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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 28 2010 7:33 pm
From: Jim...8


On Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:53:00 -0700 (PDT), Mrs Irish Mike
<wilma6116@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sep 27, 9:49 am, m...@privacy.net wrote:
>> Is it still going to be THAT long before there is a
>> Lipitor generic on the market?
>
>Excercise, fruits and veggies. Much cheaper and less side effects.

Well they're a very good option even if they're not cheaper, and in my
case Lipitor was cheaper.
However for those like myself, and there's plenty of them to be found
if you do a search online, Lipitor can only be described as pure evil.
The side effects just don't make the drug worthwhile and as soon as
their copyright protection expires they'll probably release a better
statin which will render Lipitor obsolete.

http://jimpicturetrail.blogspot.com/

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TOPIC: Ed Dolan the Great and the denizens of Usenet
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d833df279e38cde8?hl=en
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 12:24 am
From: "Edward Dolan"


"Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:i7t8v6$k3p$2@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 9/28/2010 5:29 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>> [...]
>> Fuck you too Asshole!
>>
> Ed,
>
> Your post is lacking in creativity and interest to the reader.

Assholes only deserve a "Fuck you too Asshole!" Be careful you do not fall
into this category yourself.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 12:35 am
From: "Edward Dolan"

"Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREMOVE@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in message
news:i7t8ro$k3p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 9/28/2010 5:41 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
[...]
>> I have given Mr. Sherman exactly what he deserves and he knows it better
>> than you. His liberal-socialist-communist views stink to high heaven. It
>> is
>> hilarious that he somehow regards himself as a working man when he is in
>> fact a civil engineer. It is almost as funny are your idiotic job as an
>> IT
>> specialist. Neither one of you would know what a hard days work is all
>> about.
>>
> I used to pick up and pack 40 to 50 thousand pounds of oil filters on a
> 12-hour night shift for $4.90/hour.

I did slave labor like that when I was in the Navy. But hard labor is
something to escape from. Anyone who takes pride in being a hard worker is
some kind of moron.

>> By the way, a profession is nothing but a license to steal. Ask any
>> lawyer.
>>
> Hate to break this to you Ed, but not all professionals are lawyers.

Lawyers get many hundreds of dollars an hour for doing practically nothing.
They are the best example I can think of when it comes to a worthless
profession. At least dentists and doctors occasionally do some real work
which benefits their customers.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:07 am
From: JimmyMac


On Sep 22, 8:42 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0e18189f-156f-44ee-8a1b-1dc595c6f9b8@h25g2000vba.googlegroups.com...
> [...]
>
> > If you weren't so stupid, you'd realize what a loser you are.
>
> Fuck you too Asshole!

DITTO

> > > > > Regards,
>
> > > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > > aka
> > > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:07 am
From: JimmyMac


On Sep 22, 8:44 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cadb58d4-9481-473e-8a2c-ce5a154ce217@z25g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
> [...]> Suspect all you want.  Have you so little class than to stoop this
>
> low?  Actually my father was half Irish (father) and half Polish
> (mother).  What is dumb is that you continue to associate ethnicity
> with intelligence.  A bastard and a son of a bitch I am not and saying
> so does not make it so. Iif there is a bith in all this, it is you.
> I've run into your kind before ... courageous behind the keyboard,  I
> would love to have a one on one with you one day and challenge you to
> repeat your insults face to face.  I know you haven't the testicular
> fortitude to do so and if you did, you'd learn a hard lesson in short
> order.  For the time being. I'm done wasting my time on you cretin.
> I've better things to do, so Ed...  GO FUCK YOURSELF !!!
>
> Fuck you too Asshole!

DITTO

> > > > Regards,
>
> > > > Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> > > > aka
> > > > Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:08 am
From: JimmyMac


On Sep 25, 12:51 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:bbbc75c4-7e94-4a79-bc55-f7cad49653ac@y3g2000vbm.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 22, 8:44 pm, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
> > Fuck you too Asshole!
> >> Snappy comeback ... FAGGOT!!!
>
> Fuck you too Asshole!

DITTO

> Fucking Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:09 am
From: JimmyMac


On Sep 28, 5:29 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "JimmyMac" <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:3d07d7b6-3935-4628-bddc-0dbb8d7e9df7@z28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 25, 3:44 pm, JimmyMac <jimmyma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> [...]
>
>
>
> > > The only thing I have said to Jim McNamara which he truly understands is
> > > "Fuck you too Asshole.
>
> > Proving once again that you are as perceptive as the average tree
> > stump. REALITY .... just one service that I provide to the undeserving Mr.
> > Dolan . Do come back for more, Ed.
>
> > > It is wonderful to be finally understood fully.
>
> > I doubt the even your therapist understands you fully.
>
> > > It is all I will ever have to say to him and to similar idiots who do
> > > not know
> > > how to read or how to think. It is a copy and paste which only takes me
> > > about 10 seconds.
>
> > So reading and thinking are you're strong suit? Thanks. I needed a
> > good laugh today. Your middle initial must be "H" (thin hubris). One
> > of you major malfunctions is how you approach people. You basically
> > engage people with an, "I'll tell you what you want (an need) to hear"
> > demeanor and that doesn't fly, but what can one really expect from a
> > misanthropic, troglodyte, faggot anyways. You really are a one hell
> > of a real piece of work. You are completely and utterly fucked up ...
> > BIG TIME!!!
>
> Fuck you too Asshole!

DITTO

> Fucking Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:30 am
From: JimmyMac


On Sep 28, 12:32 pm, Tom Sherman °_°
<twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote:
> On 9/28/2010 5:41 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
>
> > "JimmyMac"<jimmyma...@yahoo.com>  wrote in message
> >news:e4e2b584-a933-48ca-bd7f-3697e40b6641@26g2000yqv.googlegroups.com...
> > [...]
>
> >> You know Tom, the guy is always putting you down for just having a
> > profession and working for a living as though that is for some twisted
> > reason of disdain whereas being a lazy, worthless, parasite that
> > contributes absolutely nothing to society (yeah I'm referring to you
> > Ed) is somehow an honorable endeavor, though only from Dolan's warped
> > perspective of course,.  Go figure.  I suspect that the only thing
> > that Dolan has worked at his entire life, with any concerted effort,
> > is the honing of his his skill as the quintessential, obnoxious,
> > asshole of cyberspace.  What a claim to fame ... NOT!!!
>
> > I have given Mr. Sherman exactly what he deserves and he knows it better
> > than you. His liberal-socialist-communist views stink to high heaven. It is
> > hilarious that he somehow regards himself as a working man when he is in
> > fact a civil engineer. It is almost as funny are your idiotic job as an IT
> > specialist. Neither one of you would know what a hard days work is all
> > about.

Apparently, from his response, Tom begs to differ.

Say there, Conan the Librarian, you lugubrious laggard and parasitic
sloth, you should perform a hard days one day so that you can
formulate an opinion regarding what that entails before spewing your
ill-conceived disdain of the working man. For what it's worth,
working with the mind can be harder than working with the body. I've
done both and know what hard work is. As a profession, where do you
think lackadaisical troglodyte internet troll ranks with civil
engineer and IT specialist? Never mind ... rhetorical.

> I used to pick up and pack 40 to 50 thousand pounds of oil filters on a
> 12-hour night shift for $4.90/hour.
>
> > By the way, a profession is nothing but a license to steal. Ask any lawyer.
>
> Hate to break this to you Ed, but not all professionals are lawyers.
>
> --
> Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
> I am a vehicular cyclist.

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:31 am
From: JimmyMac


On Sep 29, 2:24 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in messagenews:i7t8v6$k3p$2@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > On 9/28/2010 5:29 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> Fuck you too Asshole!
>
> > Ed,
>
> > Your post is lacking in creativity and interest to the reader.
>
> Assholes only deserve a "Fuck you too Asshole!" Be careful you do not fall
> into this category yourself.

Tom, has sufficient time elapsed for you to have worked up a
tremble ;^)

> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:41 am
From: JimmyMac


On Sep 29, 2:35 am, "Edward Dolan" <edo...@iw.net> wrote:
> "Tom Sherman °_°" <twshermanREM...@THISsouthslope.net> wrote in messagenews:i7t8ro$k3p$1@news.eternal-september.org...
>
> > On 9/28/2010 5:41 AM, Edward Dolan wrote:
> [...]
> >> I have given Mr. Sherman exactly what he deserves and he knows it better
> >> than you. His liberal-socialist-communist views stink to high heaven. It
> >> is
> >> hilarious that he somehow regards himself as a working man when he is in
> >> fact a civil engineer. It is almost as funny are your idiotic job as an
> >> IT
> >> specialist. Neither one of you would know what a hard days work is all
> >> about.
>
> > I used to pick up and pack 40 to 50 thousand pounds of oil filters on a
> > 12-hour night shift for $4.90/hour.
>
> I did slave labor like that when I was in the Navy. But hard labor is
> something to escape from. Anyone who takes pride in being a hard worker is
> some kind of moron.

Let me see if I have this right. Cerebral work is not hard work and
should be disdained because it is not hard, but, then again, hard (ie
physical) work is to be avoided because it is hard. I guess then all
work, of any type, is to be disdained, avoided and one should not take
pride in working but rather pride in avoiding work of any kind.
Irrationality reigns and the conundrum continues. So who is the moron
here? Readers cast your votes.

> >> By the way, a profession is nothing but a license to steal. Ask any
> >> lawyer.
>
> > Hate to break this to you Ed, but not all professionals are lawyers.
>
> Lawyers get many hundreds of dollars an hour for doing practically nothing.
> They are the best example I can think of when it comes to a worthless
> profession. At least dentists and doctors occasionally do some real work
> which benefits their customers.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
> aka
> Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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TOPIC: My prayers for red-light cameras have been answered!
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/3b164c61fd23180f?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 2:29 am
From: "Paul - xxx"


dgk wrote:

> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
> break sharply to avoid tickets.

In all my years and miles of driving and cycling I've never seen a rear-end
collision as a result of someone braking for a red light or for a red light
camera.

--
Paul - xxx

mobile ...


== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 2:51 am
From: Simon Lewis


"Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes:

> dgk wrote:
>
>> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
>> break sharply to avoid tickets.
>
> In all my years and miles of driving and cycling I've never seen a rear-end
> collision as a result of someone braking for a red light or for a red light
> camera.

Then you haven't been driving for many years. It happens all the time.

Its what happens when people drive too fast, suddenly brake and the
other person behind, as happens all too often, isnt the regulatory
distance back.


== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 3:06 am
From: "Paul - xxx"


In news:i7v26t$23e$1@news.eternal-september.org, Simon Lewis
<simonlewis2001@gmail.com> said:
> "Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> dgk wrote:
>>
>>> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
>>> break sharply to avoid tickets.
>>
>> In all my years and miles of driving and cycling I've never seen a
>> rear-end collision as a result of someone braking for a red light or
>> for a red light camera.
>
> Then you haven't been driving for many years. It happens all the time.

I've been driving legally for about 33 years, cycling for about 46.

> Its what happens when people drive too fast, suddenly brake and the
> other person behind, as happens all too often, isnt the regulatory
> distance back.

Nope, never seen a rear-ender due to someone braking for a red light, or a
camera. I've seen rear enders in traffic and on motorways and under other
circumstances ...

--
Paul - xxx

mobile ...


== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 5:42 am
From: dgk


On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:06:54 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
<notcheckedever@hotmail.com> wrote:

>In news:i7v26t$23e$1@news.eternal-september.org, Simon Lewis
><simonlewis2001@gmail.com> said:
>> "Paul - xxx" <notcheckedever@hotmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> dgk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
>>>> break sharply to avoid tickets.
>>>
>>> In all my years and miles of driving and cycling I've never seen a
>>> rear-end collision as a result of someone braking for a red light or
>>> for a red light camera.
>>
>> Then you haven't been driving for many years. It happens all the time.
>
>I've been driving legally for about 33 years, cycling for about 46.
>
>> Its what happens when people drive too fast, suddenly brake and the
>> other person behind, as happens all too often, isnt the regulatory
>> distance back.
>
>Nope, never seen a rear-ender due to someone braking for a red light, or a
>camera. I've seen rear enders in traffic and on motorways and under other
>circumstances ...

I'm glad for you. I haven't seen it either. But that is what we call
anecdotal evidence. The statistics are here:

http://thenewspaper.com/news/18/1844.asp

I haven't seen anyone get struck by lightning but I understand that it
does happen.


== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:40 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 29, 2:51 am, Simon Lewis <simonlewis2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Paul - xxx" <notcheckede...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> > dgk wrote:
>
> >> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
> >> break sharply to avoid tickets.
>
> > In all my years and miles of driving and cycling I've never seen a rear-end
> > collision as a result of someone braking for a red light or for a red light
> > camera.
>
> Then you haven't been driving for many years. It happens all the time.
>
> Its what happens when people drive too fast, suddenly brake and the
> other person behind, as happens all too often, isnt the regulatory
> distance back.

The cell phones weren't around before either. How can you break on
time when you are talking to your sweetheart?


== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:49 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 29, 5:42 am, dgk <d...@somewhere.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:06:54 +0100, "Paul - xxx"
>
>
>
> <notcheckede...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Innews:i7v26t$23e$1@news.eternal-september.org,  Simon Lewis
> ><simonlewis2...@gmail.com> said:
> >> "Paul - xxx" <notcheckede...@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> >>> dgk wrote:
>
> >>>> Red light cameras are causing lots of rear-end collisions as drivers
> >>>> break sharply to avoid tickets.
>
> >>> In all my years and miles of driving and cycling I've never seen a
> >>> rear-end collision as a result of someone braking for a red light or
> >>> for a red light camera.
>
> >> Then you haven't been driving for many years. It happens all the time.
>
> >I've been driving legally for about 33 years, cycling for about 46.
>
> >> Its what happens when people drive too fast, suddenly brake and the
> >> other person behind, as happens all too often, isnt the regulatory
> >> distance back.
>
> >Nope, never seen a rear-ender due to someone braking for a red light, or a
> >camera.  I've seen rear enders in traffic and on motorways and under other
> >circumstances ...
>
> I'm glad for you. I haven't seen it either. But that is what we call
> anecdotal evidence. The statistics are here:
>
> http://thenewspaper.com/news/18/1844.asp
>
> I haven't seen anyone get struck by lightning but I understand that it
> does happen.

Maybe it's because the odds are the same.

The situation around here BEFORE was very funny... Cars would be slow
to turn left with the arrow, but kept going long after the light
turned red.


== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 7:14 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle"


On Sep 28, 5:19 pm, John S <joh...@no.spam> wrote:
> On 9/27/2010 11:26 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of
>
>
>
> the Jungle wrote:
> > On Sep 27, 7:18 pm, John S<joh...@no.spam> wrote:
> >> On 9/27/2010 2:26 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey& the Spirits of
>
> >> the Jungle wrote:
> >>> It looks idiotic though not as much as driving 3 tons of SUV to get a
> >>> gallon of milk.
>
> >> Would it be smarter to have a different sized vehicle to perfectly match
> >> every possible transportation need? Have an SUV to haul bulk recycling
> >> materials to the recycling center, then have a four door car to move
> >> children, then have a hatchback to commute with sales equipment, then
> >> have a scooter to buy milk (in good weather) a few miles away? It
> >> sounds smarter/require less resources to have one vehicle, even if it
> >> may be overkill at sometimes.
>
> > Most SUV owners also have bikes at home, or can buy one to go and get
> > a loaf of bread.
>
> > How about owning a car and renting a U-Haul truck when they need it?
>
> I'm glad you are willing to instruct others on how to make the best
> choices for their daily lives. Riding a bike for every time one wants
> to go to the supermarket is often not very practical, can be very
> dangerous on some roads (more so at night) and has the problems increase
> with bad weather.

Big Brother already does that service for you. He decides that you
can't freely import cars from Europe. They must meet certain
standards, the same standards SUVs don't meet because they are not
technically cars but trucks, and yet you can drive them with a regular
license.

It sounds complicated but it's all about money. ;)

>
> I know I would not want to have to go through the hassle of renting a U
> Haul truck every weekend. It is expensive, plus requires separate
> insurance for each rental to be properly insured. Perhaps you would be
> willing to provide trucks at cost for everyone?

Chavez' socialism allows you to fill up a gas guzzler's tank with two
bucks. Something most Americans don't know or else they would turn
socialist.


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TOPIC: why would 1 room in our house always be hottor or colder than rest?
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/d65c170f7f625cb1?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 4:33 am
From: "john hamilton"

"Gordon" <gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9E019F7AA34F2greederxprtnet@94.75.214.90...
> Ohioguy <none@none.net> wrote in news:sEboo.17378$X06.3330@newsfe10.iad:
>
>> We moved into a 1979 house back in March. Since then, I've noticed
>> that our daughter's room always seems to be hotter than the rest in the
>> summer, and cooler than the rest in Fall/Winter.
>>
>> Anyone have any suggestions for what might cause this? I thought it
>> might be an issue with the ducts, until I realized this was also the
>> case when we didn't even have the AC or furnace on.
>>
>> The strange thing is, this room seems to have more extreme temps than
>> our son's bedroom - which is on the corner, and thus has about 70% more
>> exterior wall. It kind of defies logic, at least at first glance.


ghosts can cause a room to feel inexplicably cold.


== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:34 am
From: Jeff Thies


On 9/29/2010 7:33 AM, john hamilton wrote:
> "Gordon"<gonzo@alltomyself.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9E019F7AA34F2greederxprtnet@94.75.214.90...
>> Ohioguy<none@none.net> wrote in news:sEboo.17378$X06.3330@newsfe10.iad:
>>
>>> We moved into a 1979 house back in March. Since then, I've noticed
>>> that our daughter's room always seems to be hotter than the rest in the
>>> summer, and cooler than the rest in Fall/Winter.
>>>
>>> Anyone have any suggestions for what might cause this? I thought it
>>> might be an issue with the ducts, until I realized this was also the
>>> case when we didn't even have the AC or furnace on.
>>>
>>> The strange thing is, this room seems to have more extreme temps than
>>> our son's bedroom - which is on the corner, and thus has about 70% more
>>> exterior wall. It kind of defies logic, at least at first glance.
>
>
> ghosts can cause a room to feel inexplicably cold.
>
>
That's what I thought, and in the summer the demons move in.

Jeff

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TOPIC: The most suitable adhesive
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/34352ca04bfed3ba?hl=en
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 5:35 am
From: "john hamilton"


I'm trying to find out the best adhesive for gluing leather shoes back on
to a rubber sole.

I know the polyurethane adhesive that came in tubes for gluing on 'stick on
soles' that we got from Woolworths was very good, but even if i could buy it
now, it was expensive for just a smallish tube.

Looking on some sites that supply to the shoe trade, I can see that they
sell: Neoprene cement, rubber solution, synthetic vinyl cement and
polyurethane.

Does anyone have an idea which would be the best bet, without it costing a
fortune?

I know that the polyurethane glue i used from Woolworths was very good, but
i'm thinking that buying a litre tin (which is the smallest quantity i've
seen for sale on these sites) might well all dry up quite quickly since my
rate of using it will be quite slow.
Thanks for any help.

== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 5:46 am
From: The Natural Philosopher


john hamilton wrote:
> I'm trying to find out the best adhesive for gluing leather shoes back on
> to a rubber sole.
>
> I know the polyurethane adhesive that came in tubes for gluing on 'stick on
> soles' that we got from Woolworths was very good, but even if i could buy it
> now, it was expensive for just a smallish tube.
>
> Looking on some sites that supply to the shoe trade, I can see that they
> sell: Neoprene cement, rubber solution, synthetic vinyl cement and
> polyurethane.
>
> Does anyone have an idea which would be the best bet, without it costing a
> fortune?
>
> I know that the polyurethane glue i used from Woolworths was very good, but
> i'm thinking that buying a litre tin (which is the smallest quantity i've
> seen for sale on these sites) might well all dry up quite quickly since my
> rate of using it will be quite slow.
> Thanks for any help.
>
>

Evostik traditional solvent based contact adhesive is the dogs bollocks
for this.

http://www.tooled-up.com/Product.asp?PID=2524

for example.
>
>
>


== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:01 am
From: Jim K


On 29 Sep, 13:35, "john hamilton" <bluesta...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> I'm trying to find out the best adhesive for gluing leather shoes back on
> to a rubber sole.
>
> I know the polyurethane adhesive that came in tubes for gluing on 'stick on
> soles' that we got from Woolworths was very good, but even if i could buy it
> now, it was expensive for just a smallish tube.
>
> Looking on some sites that supply to the shoe trade, I can see that they
> sell: Neoprene cement, rubber solution, synthetic vinyl cement and
> polyurethane.
>
> Does anyone have an idea which would be the best bet, without it costing a
> fortune?
>
> I know that the polyurethane glue i used from Woolworths was very good, but
> i'm thinking that buying a litre tin (which is the smallest quantity i've
> seen for sale on these sites) might well all dry up quite quickly since my
> rate of using it will be quite slow.
> Thanks for any help.

gorilla glue

tho watch out if you have asthma

Jim K


== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:20 am
From: Bill Gill


On 9/29/2010 7:35 AM, john hamilton wrote:
> I'm trying to find out the best adhesive for gluing leather shoes back on
> to a rubber sole.
>
> I know the polyurethane adhesive that came in tubes for gluing on 'stick on
> soles' that we got from Woolworths was very good, but even if i could buy it
> now, it was expensive for just a smallish tube.
>
> Looking on some sites that supply to the shoe trade, I can see that they
> sell: Neoprene cement, rubber solution, synthetic vinyl cement and
> polyurethane.
>
> Does anyone have an idea which would be the best bet, without it costing a
> fortune?
>
> I know that the polyurethane glue i used from Woolworths was very good, but
> i'm thinking that buying a litre tin (which is the smallest quantity i've
> seen for sale on these sites) might well all dry up quite quickly since my
> rate of using it will be quite slow.
> Thanks for any help.
>
>
>
>
>
Shoe Goop. It should be available at most hard ware stores.

Bill

== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 8:22 am
From: "Robin"


> Shoe Goop. It should be available at most hard ware stores.
>

I don't mean to take the p but did you possibly mean Shoe Goo? (See eg
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shoe-Goo-Repair-Adhesive-Clear/dp/B0030ZULM4/ref=sr_1_1?s=shoes&ie=UTF8&qid=1285773424&sr=1-1)
If so I swear by it for repairs to all sorts of things (soles, heels,
rucksacks, tool rolls etc etc) but I wouldn't turn to it for sticking
soles on.
--
Robin
PM may be sent to rbw0{at}hotmail{dot}com

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Date: Wed, Sep 29 2010 6:46 am
From: Anne Onime


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