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Today's topics:
* Today's rant - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ebf6149b2fa1a41f?hl=en
* Hot Weather Clothing: was: Re: Liberation of Women should include Exposed
Breasts - 3 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0a8e226dcb97aa19?hl=en
* Local Area Network Details - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/29ff0722ba3533b9?hl=en
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TOPIC: Today's rant
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/ebf6149b2fa1a41f?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 25 2011 6:25 pm
From: The Real Bev
On 04/25/11 18:53, Derald wrote:
> I have had the experience of receiving a replacement (as a result of having
> written directly to the CEO) for a rather high-end item, with no necessity of
> returning the defective product. The replacement had exactly the same deficiency
> that provoked my complaint; hmmm....
That happened with a Canon camera. Within the warranty period it began
thinking that batteries were dead, even though they weren't. Ultimately
the camera refused to work. Canon sent me another one that wouldn't
work right out of the box. The next one they sent was an upgrade and
I've used it for three years. BUT, it still has the battery problem,
albeit not fatal.
Turns out it's a common problem with Canon series A cameras, and there
are even informal hacks to fix it, involving bending some contacts. Not
ready to do that quite yet, but I saved the instructions. Aside from
that the A720IS is a great camera.
And I got to keep the extranea, like the 128M SD card that came with
each camera and the instruction books and wrist straps :-)
> IME, when lodging a legitimate complaint, it almost always pays to bypass
> the flack catchers and go as nearly to the top as possible. Corporate officers
> and upper management tend to be shielded from day-to-day operations, including
> customer complaints, by a cadre of licks and yes-men who often see their primary
> task as shielding the Great One from such trivialities as dealing with actual
> live customers.
I've found that the first-level people can actually solve the problem a
little less than half the time. Sometimes no matter HOW high you go you
can't get satisfaction. Still, I think the odds are in our favor.
--
Cheers, Bev
--------------------------------------------
There is no such thing as a foolproof device
because fools are so ingenious.
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 25 2011 8:29 pm
From: Derald
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>Suffice it to say that if I could actually kill -- I mean
>really cause actual death, not just figurative death -- the people
>responsible I woud do so.
Oh, do I know that feeling. I've often reflected that it's a "good thing"
that I do not keep firearms in the motor vehicle. Yeah, it's a damn pickup
truck; is that a problem?
--
Derald
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 25 2011 8:29 pm
From: Derald
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>I've found that the first-level people can actually solve the problem a
>little less than half the time.
Well, I figure the first few tiers of flack catchers (Thank you, Tom Wolfe.
Guess I dated myself, huh?) are there to frustrate complainants enough as to
cause them to give up. Intermediate tiers are intended to baffle with bullshit
and mollify with melliifluous doubletalk. Only when one gets past those, may
results be expected. Telephone companies and ISPs have the technique honed to an
artful science. However, as you suggest, one often is as well off sticking
needles into one's very own personal eyes.
--
Derald
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TOPIC: Hot Weather Clothing: was: Re: Liberation of Women should include
Exposed Breasts
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/0a8e226dcb97aa19?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 25 2011 6:28 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On Apr 25, 9:04 pm, The Real Bev <bashley...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > When I'm riding my bike in a damp linen shirt, I feel sorry for the
> > guys toasting bare skin in the sun.
>
> How else are they going to exhibit their machismo now that killing a
> saber-tooth tiger isn't really all that practical?
They drive an SUV and blast the horn at cyclists as well. Why don't
they go and wrestle alligators somewhere?
== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 25 2011 7:57 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In article <ip54vl$26r$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev wrote:
*(Did I get this right?)
>On 04/24/11 00:06, Don Klipstein wrote:
>
>> In article<ip0ao2$oll$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev wrote:
>>>On 04/23/11 21:28, Don Klipstein wrote:
>>>> His Highness the TibetanMonkey wrote in part:
>>>>>
>>>>>I feel sorry for those ladies who must wear a top, but they can
>>>>>mitigate the heat by wearing a shirt somewhat unbuttoned without bra.
>>>>>I mean you can wear a burka and ride a bike but it doesn't sound
>>>>>natural.
>>>
>>>I'd worry about it getting caught in the chain. And you'd need a lot of
>>>mirrors. Not practical.
>>
>> What would I need mirrors for? No clothing gets more than an inch from
>> my body except below my armpits!
>>
>> As for getting caught in the chain? On a men's bike, I never had that
>> problem with an exomis or a mid-calf-length raincoat!
>
>You mentioned a burkha, which is what I was talking about. I would
>think the objections would be obvious.
I was responding to someone who likely mentioned a "burkha".
I think those are not-so-cooling, and worn mostly by women willing to
go-along-to-get-along in societies that demean women.
If I had to be a woman in such societies, I would bare a breast with
the worn-by-a-woman exomis mentioned earlier in this thread.
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 25 2011 8:11 pm
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In article <ip55nq$l75$1@dont-email.me>, The Real Bev wrote:
>On 04/24/11 22:37, Joy Beeson wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:59:44 -0700, The Real Bev
>> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Back in the dark ages when I was in high school hoopskirts with
>>> petticoats were the in thing. The cheap ones were just wire frames and
>>> were kind of miserable to sit in; the expensive ones were made of net
>>> with boning and provided a lot of air circulation.
>>>
>>> This was the late 1950s, not 1850s!
>>
>> Hoop skirts never made it to my high school -- we wore "crinolines" --
>> ruffled net underskirts, or stiff some-sort-of-synthetic petticoats.
>> And we wore them only for dress-up; for school, we wore pleated or
>> circular skirts over ordinary slips.
>
>Hoops plus crinolines. Frequently starched with sugar water, although
>my grandma used real starch. Worn for school under a 3-yard gathered skirt.
>
>> When I'm riding my bike in a damp linen shirt, I feel sorry for the
>> guys toasting bare skin in the sun.
>
>How else are they going to exhibit their machismo now that killing a
>saber-tooth tiger isn't really all that practical?
How about inventing or wearing men's versions of *cooling* women's
garments, such as dresses and skirts?
How about the exomis, especially of older Greek style? That's a dress,
though that was a manly dress that men wore before pants were put into
practice.
And, strongly it appears to me, a Greek exomis appears to me "more
manly" than the Roman version.
--
- Don Klipstein (don@mity.com)
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TOPIC: Local Area Network Details
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/29ff0722ba3533b9?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Mon, Apr 25 2011 8:24 pm
From: "webtech.ashish webtechnoworld"
Hi All,
Local area network details posted...
Take a look at-
http://www.webtechnoworld.com/Local-Area-Network.php
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Ash
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