Frugal Living: Feb 5, 2009

Thursday, February 5, 2009

misc.consumers.frugal-living - 25 new messages in 8 topics - digest

misc.consumers.frugal-living
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Today's topics:

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TOPIC: Recommended non-slip shoes
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/528f10a7cc9551e9?hl=en
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== 1 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 9:38 am
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 5, 10:47 am, "rtand...@yahoo.com" <rtand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___24091
>
> Others like this are available.

That looks good, and pretty cheap too. I'd try a pair if I can see
them in the store first. I believe they would be suitable for walking
as the OP intended. I'd rip them off very quickly trying to run on
them because I have to switch back and forth from dry to ice so often.
I'll be checking the store.

== 2 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 1:41 pm
From: me@privacy.net

noel888 <harri85274@aol.com> wrote:

>This post is directed to those who live with snowy winters who may
>have more experience than others..but of course, all I welcomed to
>chip in if they care to. My 80 year old uncle, slipped on black ice
>here in the east as he was walking to church. Miraculously, nothing
>was broken, but he did feel the effects a few days later. I've been on
>line searching for such shoes and there are such a wide variety
>available..from 'lite' to heavy duty...for recreational to sport
>types..from $14 dollars to 149 which makes it all the more confusing.
>Also, some 'cleats' wear out and need to be replaced...any suggestions
>please?

Here is what I did with an older pair off boots

http://www.skyrunner.com/screwshoe.htm

Seriously ... this works as well or better than
anything on the market

== 3 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 1:41 pm
From: me@privacy.net

"rtandems@yahoo.com" <rtandems@yahoo.com> wrote:

>http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___24091
>
>Others like this are available.

Those things are crap..... they just don't last and
will come apart!

Screw shoes work best!

== 4 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 3:17 pm
From: noel888

On Feb 5, 4:41 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> "rtand...@yahoo.com" <rtand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___24091
>
> >Others like this are available.
>
> Those things are crap..... they just don't last and
> will come apart!
>
> Screw shoes work best!

Screw shoes work best!>>>

where can I find screw shoes?

== 5 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 3:44 pm
From: "Woody"

"noel888" <harri85274@aol.com> wrote in message
news:b85d88ad-6abc-47e0-97ce-2b078ddaa160@q30g2000prq.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 5, 4:41 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> "rtand...@yahoo.com" <rtand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___24091
>
> >Others like this are available.
>
> Those things are crap..... they just don't last and
> will come apart!
>
> Screw shoes work best!

Screw shoes work best!>>>

where can I find screw shoes?

------------------------------------------------------

More importantly, they work best for _what_???

Woody

== 6 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 4:00 pm
From: me@privacy.net

noel888 <harri85274@aol.com> wrote:

>where can I find screw shoes?

You make them!

see previous link

== 7 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 4:01 pm
From: me@privacy.net

"Woody" <email@munged.com> wrote:

>More importantly, they work best for _what_???

http://www.skyrunner.com/screwshoe.htm

== 8 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 4:16 pm
From: "Woody"

<me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:bevmo4llrnsmmrcoqe6rogk6ur0rh5e7ej@4ax.com...
> "Woody" <email@munged.com> wrote:
>
>>More importantly, they work best for _what_???
>
> http://www.skyrunner.com/screwshoe.htm

Thanks for the education. The phrase "screwing shoes" had my mind on a
different train of thought. :-D

Woody

== 9 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 4:21 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

me@privacy.net wrote:
> "Woody" <email@munged.com> wrote:
>
>> More importantly, they work best for _what_???
>
> http://www.skyrunner.com/screwshoe.htm

Screw that!!!

== 10 of 10 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 4:44 pm
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 5, 4:41 pm, m...@privacy.net wrote:
> noel888 <harri85...@aol.com> wrote:
> >This post is directed to those who live with snowy winters who may
> >have more experience than others..but of course, all I welcomed to
> >chip in if they care to. My 80 year old uncle, slipped on black ice
> >here in the east as he was walking to church. Miraculously, nothing
> >was broken, but he did feel the effects a few days later. I've been on
> >line searching for such shoes and there are such a wide variety
> >available..from 'lite' to heavy duty...for recreational to sport
> >types..from $14 dollars to 149 which makes it all the more confusing.
> >Also, some 'cleats' wear out and need to be replaced...any suggestions
> >please?
>
> Here is what I did with an older pair off boots
>
> http://www.skyrunner.com/screwshoe.htm
>
> Seriously ... this works as well or better than
> anything on the market

There you go. That's what I've been doing for decades except for
avoiding the points.

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TOPIC: Bathtub question
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a4bc99a41d21a966?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 9:45 am
From: "benick"

"noel888" <harri85274@aol.com> wrote in message
news:e72e5188-4612-48b3-94af-bd19740f9ea3@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 5, 1:29 am, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> I want to remove the knob that moves my pop-up plug for the drain up
> and down.
>
> I tried to pull this knob but it is not moving. I looked around for a
> set screw. There is none.
>
> I have photos of the knob at:
>
> http://cid-eb85de77506ba8ba.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/BathTub?aut...
>
> Is there any trick to removing this type of knob?
>
> I need to remove it to open the clogged drain.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deguza

Sorry, i read your post again...you did say 'bathtub'...I got confused
with the pop-up of the sink in bathrooms. Why ask in this frugal
forum..you would be better off in so many of those "How do I..."
forums which can be found by googling it? I still say that link of
yours takes me directly to windows live...go figure.

Nothing wrong with his link...Must be something on your end...Do you know
what brand it is??? Hard to give info without that..Also you can check the
manufacturers website if you know what brand it is....

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 12:32 pm
From: DerbyDad03

On Feb 5, 12:45 pm, "benick" <ben...@fairpoint.net> wrote:
> "noel888" <harri85...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:e72e5188-4612-48b3-94af-bd19740f9ea3@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 5, 1:29 am, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hello All:
>
> > I want to remove the knob that moves my pop-up plug for the drain up
> > and down.
>
> > I tried to pull this knob but it is not moving. I looked around for a
> > set screw. There is none.
>
> > I have photos of the knob at:
>
> >http://cid-eb85de77506ba8ba.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/BathTub?aut...
>
> > Is there any trick to removing this type of knob?
>
> > I need to remove it to open the clogged drain.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Deguza
>
> Sorry, i read your post again...you did say 'bathtub'...I got confused
> with the pop-up of the sink in bathrooms. Why ask in this frugal
> forum..you would be better off in so many of those "How do I..."
> forums which can be found by googling it? I still say that link of
> yours takes me directly to windows live...go figure.
>
> Nothing wrong with his link...Must be something on your end...Do you know
> what brand it is??? Hard to give info without that..Also you can check the
> manufacturers website if you know what brand it is....- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

re: Nothing wrong with his link...Must be something on your end

What ever is wrong on his end is wrong on my end too.

Link goes to a Windows Live page entitled Bath Tub and shows 2
"images" that contain the dreaded red X.

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 12:45 pm
From: Kompu Kid

On Feb 5, 12:32 pm, DerbyDad03 <teamarr...@eznet.net> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 12:45 pm, "benick" <ben...@fairpoint.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "noel888" <harri85...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:e72e5188-4612-48b3-94af-bd19740f9ea3@l33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> > On Feb 5, 1:29 am, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hello All:
>
> > > I want to remove the knob that moves my pop-up plug for the drain up
> > > and down.
>
> > > I tried to pull this knob but it is not moving. I looked around for a
> > > set screw. There is none.
>
> > > I have photos of the knob at:
>
> > >http://cid-eb85de77506ba8ba.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/BathTub?aut...
>
> > > Is there any trick to removing this type of knob?
>
> > > I need to remove it to open the clogged drain.
>
> > > Thanks!
>
> > > Deguza
>
> > Sorry, i read your post again...you did say 'bathtub'...I got confused
> > with the pop-up of the sink in bathrooms. Why ask in this frugal
> > forum..you would be better off in so many of those "How do I..."
> > forums which can be found by googling it? I still say that link of
> > yours takes me directly to windows live...go figure.
>
> > Nothing wrong with his link...Must be something on your end...Do you know
> > what brand it is??? Hard to give info without that..Also you can check the
> > manufacturers website if you know what brand it is....- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> re: Nothing wrong with his link...Must be something on your end
>
> What ever is wrong on his end is wrong on my end too.
>
> Link goes to a Windows Live page entitled Bath Tub and shows 2
> "images" that contain the dreaded red X.

I am sorry that the link is not working. I checked it from my end
without signing on to hotmail. It seems to be there.

What the pictures depict is a somewhat rounded triangular knob. There
are no external fasteners (i.e. no screws, pins, etc). I am afraid to
pull this too hard, in case there is a different way of removing it.

I wish we could post photos on usenet along with our text...

Deguza

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 12:50 pm
From: Kompu Kid

Unfortunately there are no manufacturer's name or insignia.

I am afraid to pull the metallic part too hard in case it is attached
a different way. (I turned it counterclockwise to see if it is screwed
on, but that did not help either.)

What I am looking for is somebody who has seen and had first hand
experience with this exact knob to tell me how to remove it.

Once it is removed, it is got to be the way you described.

Anybody out in the Cyber world that has dealt with this type of knob?

Thanks anyway.

Deguza

On Feb 5, 9:32 am, "RonABC" <r...@hytre.abc> wrote:
> Most likely, you have to take off the part that is attached to the vertical
> surface of the tub first. After you take that off, the knob you are
> referring to will probably have a cotter pin or similar connection in the
> back. The knob is connected to a metal wire/rod that drops down behind the
> tub and that is connected to a brass plunger/stopper at the end. The
> plunger/stopper is what stops the water from draining out when it is in the
> right position. The whole setup comes up and out of the tub through the
> hole that is in the vertical wall of the tub behind the piece that covers
> the whole.
>
> Usually, there are two screws in the piece that attaches to the vertical
> wall of the tub. Yours looks different, so there may be a little cap/cover
> over where the connecting screws are, or maybe there is some other way that
> the piece is connected.
>
> If you can see a brand name printed on that fixture, maybe you can go to
> their website or do an Internet search to see how it disconnects.
>
> Kompu Kid wrote:
> > Hello All:
>
> > I want to remove the knob that moves my pop-up plug for the drain up
> > and down.
>
> > I tried to pull this knob but it is not moving. I looked around for a
> > set screw. There is none.
>
> > I have photos of the knob at:
>
> >http://cid-eb85de77506ba8ba.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/BathTub?aut...
>
> > Is there any trick to removing this type of knob?
>
> > I need to remove it to open the clogged drain.
>
> > Thanks!
>
> > Deguza

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 1:08 pm
From: "Don & Lucille"

The part that activates the rocker on the plug could be a spiral if so it
could be stuck. Usually you just unscrew the escutcheon on the overful and
lift it out!
"Kompu Kid" <deguza@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2e672be7-f449-419c-b8b7-3488060b71a4@g3g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
> Hello All:
>
> I want to remove the knob that moves my pop-up plug for the drain up
> and down.
>
> I tried to pull this knob but it is not moving. I looked around for a
> set screw. There is none.
>
> I have photos of the knob at:
>
> http://cid-eb85de77506ba8ba.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/BathTub?authkey=Y9O!9fLQTTI%24
>
> Is there any trick to removing this type of knob?
>
> I need to remove it to open the clogged drain.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deguza

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 1:26 pm
From: "RonABC"

Your link worked for me. For those for whom the link did not work, maybe
they could do a copy and paste of the link text into the address bar and try
it that way.

Due to the reflections in the pictures, I misunderstood what I was seeing in
the pictures. Since you said your "turn" the knob to operate the drain, I
took another look. In the photo view from the bottom, it looks like maybe
there is a little round inset-type cap on the side of the fixture. If so,
maybe you could use a pointed kitchen steak knife to pry/pop the cap out,
then see if there is a set screw in there. Since you turn the knob for it
to work, my guess is that there is a set screw that holds the knob to the
shaft inside that has to be turned.

Kompu Kid wrote:
> Unfortunately there are no manufacturer's name or insignia.
>
> I am afraid to pull the metallic part too hard in case it is attached
> a different way. (I turned it counterclockwise to see if it is screwed
> on, but that did not help either.)
>
> What I am looking for is somebody who has seen and had first hand
> experience with this exact knob to tell me how to remove it.
>
> Once it is removed, it is got to be the way you described.
>
> Anybody out in the Cyber world that has dealt with this type of knob?
>
> Thanks anyway.
>
> Deguza
>
> On Feb 5, 9:32 am, "RonABC" <r...@hytre.abc> wrote:
>> Most likely, you have to take off the part that is attached to the
>> vertical surface of the tub first. After you take that off, the knob
>> you are referring to will probably have a cotter pin or similar
>> connection in the back. The knob is connected to a metal wire/rod
>> that drops down behind the tub and that is connected to a brass
>> plunger/stopper at the end. The plunger/stopper is what stops the
>> water from draining out when it is in the right position. The whole
>> setup comes up and out of the tub through the hole that is in the
>> vertical wall of the tub behind the piece that covers the whole.
>>
>> Usually, there are two screws in the piece that attaches to the
>> vertical wall of the tub. Yours looks different, so there may be a
>> little cap/cover over where the connecting screws are, or maybe
>> there is some other way that the piece is connected.
>>
>> If you can see a brand name printed on that fixture, maybe you can
>> go to their website or do an Internet search to see how it
>> disconnects.
>>
>> Kompu Kid wrote:
>>> Hello All:
>>
>>> I want to remove the knob that moves my pop-up plug for the drain up
>>> and down.
>>
>>> I tried to pull this knob but it is not moving. I looked around for
>>> a set screw. There is none.
>>
>>> I have photos of the knob at:
>>
>>> http://cid-eb85de77506ba8ba.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/BathTub?aut...
>>
>>> Is there any trick to removing this type of knob?
>>
>>> I need to remove it to open the clogged drain.
>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>>> Deguza

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TOPIC: How Rightards Think: "Stimulus could give jobs to 300,000 illegal
immigrants" - They don't care that Stimulus will give jobs to 3,000,000
Americans"
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 11:52 am
From: Stan de SD

On Feb 5, 9:01 am, "Petri Dish" <blab...@limbaugh.net> wrote:
> "Stain de SD" <StanD...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:71ca6f25-fdf1-4dda-b990-2e3a4f42069d@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 5, 7:32 am, LiberalPatr...@xemaps.com wrote:
>
> > The "Righttards" think the answer is to give tax cuts to people who
> > don't have money!
>
> > The GOP is hopelessly out of ideas, leadership and any sort of
> > credibility.
>
> > So all they got is obstructionism and racial slurs like "magic negro."
>
> How is "magic negro" a racial slur, given the fact it was coined by a
> liberal op-ed columnist for the LA Times? Or are you so motivated by
> knee-jerk hysteria that facts are of secondary importance to you?
> ===================================
>
> Your the resident fringe lunatic, you answer why you are a racist terrorist.

Sorry, we already know that you're a foaming left-winger. Just curious
to see if you had some facts or logic to back your assertion. It's
clear that you don't, so I will consider the source... :O|

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TOPIC: Wireless Service Plans for Laptops
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/65cc345cf6414091?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 12:03 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Michael White wrote:

> I'd like to use my laptop for web browsing in the mall and in my office in the Dallas (TX) area. Who provides the best
> quality (speed) service plan? Who provides the best value plan?

> Does a smartphone do better than a laptop for this purpose?

Its much more portable, but the much smaller screen is a real downside.

Really depends on what you are looking at on it.

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TOPIC: 2.5 million Americans lost jobs - ObaMa0 hires 1.5 million foreigners
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 12:12 pm
From: "Rod Speed"

Kerry wrote:
> just a test.
>
> "James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:e88b9095-df8a-4ab2-be81-3d8c6c1278cf@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 2, 8:07 pm, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
>> On Feb 2, 5:35 pm, obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> 2.5 million Americans lost jobs - ObaMa0 hires 1.5 million
>>> foreigners
>>
>>> http://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/video/commercials/elevato...
>>
>> Ain't it wonderful?
>>
>> mitch
>
> Yup! If Bush was in office he would have filled those jobs with red
> blooded Americans who are only qualified to clean toilets. So, which
> is better?
>
> Bush's idea of full employment is give them jobs as military dead bodys in foreign lands.

Only 3K of them ended up dead. Fart in the bath in those laid off.

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TOPIC: How McDonald's responds to cheap bastards like us
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 12:32 pm
From: OhioGuy

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=11887463&ch=4226720&src=news

I found myself occasionally going to McDonald's after I discovered
their Double Cheeseburger on the dollar menu. Normally, I went to
Wendy's and got the Jr. Cheeseburger Deluxe, or sometimes to Burger King
to get the Whopper Jr.

However, our local McDonald's raised the price of their double
cheeseburger from $1 up to $1.38. The one still on the dollar menu has
two burger patties, and just a single slice of cheese. A 38% increase
to keep that second piece of cheese seemed a bit much, so I don't go to
McDonald's much at all any more.

Now that the price for food commodities has started going back down,
how many of you think that McDonald's will decrease their retail costs?
Will they, or will it be more like how the gas stations keep prices up
for a while?

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 1:45 pm
From: "Woody"

"OhioGuy" <none@none.net> wrote in message
news:gmfiev$21ab$1@news.ett.com.ua...
> http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=11887463&ch=4226720&src=news
>
>
> I found myself occasionally going to McDonald's after I discovered their
> Double Cheeseburger on the dollar menu. Normally, I went to Wendy's and
> got the Jr. Cheeseburger Deluxe, or sometimes to Burger King to get the
> Whopper Jr.
>
> However, our local McDonald's raised the price of their double
> cheeseburger from $1 up to $1.38. The one still on the dollar menu has
> two burger patties, and just a single slice of cheese. A 38% increase to
> keep that second piece of cheese seemed a bit much, so I don't go to
> McDonald's much at all any more.
>
> Now that the price for food commodities has started going back down, how
> many of you think that McDonald's will decrease their retail costs? Will
> they, or will it be more like how the gas stations keep prices up for a
> while?

Any business will keep their prices as high as possible, as long as
possible, in order to fatten their bottom line. Note what the U.S. banks are
doing with the "bailout" money--stuffing it in their mattress so they have a
better dividend report to issue to shareholders next quarter.

You can expect McDonald's to decrease their prices only if sales decline
enough to hurt their profitability. And, when they do so, they will make a
big lying deal of how "we're reducing prices to save you money!"

Woody

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 4:25 pm
From: "John A. Weeks III"

In article <%5Jil.237644$NN4.224524@en-nntp-08.dc1.easynews.com>,
"Woody" <email@munged.com> wrote:

> Any business will keep their prices as high as possible, as long as
> possible, in order to fatten their bottom line.

The facts show that is not true. Walmart has a policy of always
trying to offer the lowest possible price. They account for a
major slice of the retail market.

-john-

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TOPIC: McDonald's Angus third pounder burger
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 1:15 pm
From: James

On Feb 4, 11:11 pm, Fring <frugal.livi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 5, 10:45 am, "www.Queensbridge.us" <NOTva...@Queensbridge.us>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 3, 11:31 pm, "www.Queensbridge.us" <NOTva...@Queensbridge.us>
> > wrote:
>
> > > I have enjoyed
> > > McDonald's Angus third pounder burger
> > > in Manhattan and Brooklyn for $3.99
>
> > > Yesterday I was in Astoria part of Queens, NYC and they were $4.59!!
>
> > > Has McDonald's raised the prices of Angus burgers.
>
> > > How much are they where you are?
>
> > Wife looked at McDonald's on 42 Street in Manhattan by
> > Madame Tussaud Wax Museum.
>
> > In that expensive tourist area, the
> > McDonald's Angus third pounder burger was $4.19.
> > It is MORE EXPENSIVE in Astoria, Queens!!
>
> > Amazing
>
> Yeah amazing how a burger is 60 cents more expensive in another
> McDonald's branch.- Hide quoted text -

Its not news to me that there are variations in pricing at various
McDonalds. Niagara Falls Canada seems to be home to the most expensive
fast food I've encountered. I would suppose it varies based on the
location costs, and competition. Denny's was much worse BTW - their
prices were much much higher.

James

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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 2:07 pm
From: dealer

$400 free poker money (no deposit required)

Just sing Up

http://american-poker.us/

-no deposit required
-$400 free poker money -Guaranteed
-Exclusive Freerolls
-Huge sign-up bonuses

Titan Poker $150
Poker Strategy $150
Party Poker $50
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Absolute Poker $50

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 2:10 pm
From: "Woody"

And what happens after you "just sign up?" You get addicted and keep
redepositing and redepositing. Nobody wins money on your cheating poker
sites. Go try to dupe someone else, wanker.

Woody

"dealer" <dealerpkr@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> $400 free poker money (no deposit required)
>
> Just sing Up
>
> http://american-poker.us/
>
> -no deposit required
> -$400 free poker money -Guaranteed
> -Exclusive Freerolls
> -Huge sign-up bonuses
>
> Titan Poker $150
> Poker Strategy $150
> Party Poker $50
> Pitbull Poker $10
> Absolute Poker $50

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TOPIC: Just heard of a free phone service...
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 4 2009 10:31 pm
From: Kompu Kid

On Feb 4, 8:37 pm, Fring <frugal.livi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 11:18 am, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello All:
>
> > I our local discussion group in Silicon Valley (http://www.yahoogroups.com/groups/scc_cafe/
> > ), somebody is talking about a free international call service. I
> > guess there is a limit of 10 minutes/day, and you have to watch an add
> > first.
>
> > Here is what the guy gave as the URL.
>
> >http://www.tuitalk.com
>
> > Deguza
>
> Thanks for sharing. This might be a good back up for my Onesuite voip
> account. 10 mins a day is still 10 mins a day...might be not much but
> its still fere :)

Hopefully it covers the part of the world you want to call. Let us
know what you think of it.

Regards,

Deguza

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 12:27 am
From: Fring

On Feb 5, 2:31 pm, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 8:37 pm, Fring <frugal.livi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 4, 11:18 am, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hello All:
>
> > > I our local discussion group in Silicon Valley (http://www.yahoogroups.com/groups/scc_cafe/
> > > ), somebody is talking about a free international call service. I
> > > guess there is a limit of 10 minutes/day, and you have to watch an add
> > > first.
>
> > > Here is what the guy gave as the URL.
>
> > >http://www.tuitalk.com
>
> > > Deguza
>
> > Thanks for sharing. This might be a good back up for my Onesuite voip
> > account. 10 mins a day is still 10 mins a day...might be not much but
> > its still fere :)
>
> Hopefully it covers the part of the world you want to call. Let us
> know what you think of it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Deguza- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I already registered and downloaded the program but haven't tried
making any calls yet. Maybe tomorrow.

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TOPIC: Onesuite Question
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 12:43 am
From: Fring

On Jan 24, 11:41 pm, "www.Queensbridge.us" <NOTva...@Queensbridge.us>
wrote:
> On Jan 8, 11:31 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> >www.Queensbridge.uswrote:
> > > Recently I noticed that they are passing my caller ID [or ANI] to the
> > > call recipient.
>
> > I thought that ANI was only available on incoming toll-free numbers. I
> > guess there's an exception for some customers.
>
> I think that telephone companies can get ANI from origin,
> and that OS qualifies as a telco

I think the reason why your caller id won't show up when using a phone
card like Onesuite is because most people wants anonymity with the
exception of some. Maybe Onesuite received lots of complaints (because
some people won't accept calls if they don't recognize the caller) and
gave in to people's request.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 8:51 am
From: SMS

Fring wrote:
> On Jan 24, 11:41 pm, "www.Queensbridge.us" <NOTva...@Queensbridge.us>
> wrote:
>> On Jan 8, 11:31 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> www.Queensbridge.uswrote:
>>>> Recently I noticed that they are passing my caller ID [or ANI] to the
>>>> call recipient.
>>> I thought that ANI was only available on incoming toll-free numbers. I
>>> guess there's an exception for some customers.
>> I think that telephone companies can get ANI from origin,
>> and that OS qualifies as a telco
>
> I think the reason why your caller id won't show up when using a phone
> card like Onesuite is because most people wants anonymity with the
> exception of some. Maybe Onesuite received lots of complaints (because
> some people won't accept calls if they don't recognize the caller) and
> gave in to people's request.

But it does show up, so what are you talking about?

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 3:15 am
From: "Kerry"

just a test.

"James" <j0069bond@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e88b9095-df8a-4ab2-be81-3d8c6c1278cf@g39g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 2, 8:07 pm, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
> On Feb 2, 5:35 pm, obamao.sux.donki.dix...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > 2.5 million Americans lost jobs - ObaMa0 hires 1.5 million foreigners
>
> >http://www.numbersusa.com/content/resources/video/commercials/elevato...
>
> Ain't it wonderful?
>
> mitch

Yup! If Bush was in office he would have filled those jobs with red
blooded Americans who are only qualified to clean toilets. So, which
is better?

Bush's idea of full employment is give them jobs as military dead
bodys in foreign lands.

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TOPIC: Stimulus could give jobs to 300,000 illegal immigrants
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== 1 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 3:18 am
From: wismel@yahoo.com

http://sev.prnewswire.com/construction-building/20090204/DC6697704022009-1.html

Anybody out there still supporting the shitbag government in
Washington, DC?

ted

http://www.numbersusa.com/ Numbers USA

== 2 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:25 am
From: GLOBALIST

On Feb 5, 5:18 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://sev.prnewswire.com/construction-building/20090204/DC6697704022...
>
> Anybody out there still supporting the shitbag government in
> Washington, DC?
>
> ted
>
> http://www.numbersusa.com/ Numbers USA

Well if the lazy ass white foks don't want to do physical work,
they'll have to hire somebody to do the work. You go Mexico.

== 3 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:33 am
From: freeisbest

On Feb 5, 6:18 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://sev.prnewswire.com/construction-building/20090204/DC6697704022...
>
> Anybody out there still supporting the shitbag government in
> Washington, DC?

There's a new administration but you didn't get the memo that
it's time to come out of the bunker. It's ok. Bush's shitbags are
gone, teddy.

== 4 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:03 am
From: "M'Balz Es-Hari"

"freeisbest" <demeter547opine@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Feb 5, 6:18 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> http://sev.prnewswire.com/construction-building/20090204/DC6697704022...
>
> Anybody out there still supporting the shitbag government in
> Washington, DC?

There's a new administration but you didn't get the memo that
it's time to come out of the bunker. It's ok. Bush's shitbags are
gone, teddy.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

== 5 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:14 am
From: "rick++"

You probably havent work in years. Why complain?

== 6 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:29 am
From: "Petri Dish"

"M'Balz Es-Hari" <texan767@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gmev45$2us$1@news.motzarella.org...
> "freeisbest" <demeter547opine@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:568e5eed-7578-462c-b51c-a75be15ba802@n33g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 5, 6:18 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> http://sev.prnewswire.com/construction-building/20090204/DC6697704022...
>>
>> Anybody out there still supporting the shitbag government in
>> Washington, DC?
>
> There's a new administration but you didn't get the memo that
> it's time to come out of the bunker. It's ok. Bush's shitbags are
> gone, teddy.
>
> Meet the new boss, same as the old boss

New boss busy fighting with the children of the corn.

== 7 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:32 am
From: LiberalPatriot@xemaps.com

The "Righttards" think the answer is to give tax cuts to people who
don't have money!

The GOP is hopelessly out of ideas, leadership and any sort of
credibility.

So all they got is obstructionism and racial slurs like "magic negro."

== 8 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 8:42 am
From: Stan de SD

On Feb 5, 7:32 am, LiberalPatr...@xemaps.com wrote:
> The "Righttards" think the answer is to give tax cuts to people who
> don't have money!
>
> The GOP is hopelessly out of ideas, leadership and any sort of
> credibility.
>
> So all they got is obstructionism and racial slurs like "magic negro."

How is "magic negro" a racial slur, given the fact it was coined by a
liberal op-ed columnist for the LA Times? Or are you so motivated by
knee-jerk hysteria that facts are of secondary importance to you?

== 9 of 9 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 9:01 am
From: "Petri Dish"

"Stain de SD" <StanDeSD@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:71ca6f25-fdf1-4dda-b990-2e3a4f42069d@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 5, 7:32 am, LiberalPatr...@xemaps.com wrote:
> The "Righttards" think the answer is to give tax cuts to people who
> don't have money!
>
> The GOP is hopelessly out of ideas, leadership and any sort of
> credibility.
>
> So all they got is obstructionism and racial slurs like "magic negro."

Your the resident fringe lunatic, you answer why you are a racist terrorist.

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 5:25 am
From: "Michael White"

I'd like to use my laptop for web browsing in the mall and in my office in
the Dallas (TX) area. Who provides the best quality (speed) service plan?
Who provides the best value plan?

Does a smartphone do better than a laptop for this purpose?

Thanks.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 5:40 am
From: "Woody"

"Michael White" <xxx@yyy.com> wrote in message
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> I'd like to use my laptop for web browsing in the mall and in my office in
> the Dallas (TX) area. Who provides the best quality (speed) service plan?
> Who provides the best value plan?
>
> Does a smartphone do better than a laptop for this purpose?
>
> Thanks.

Just don't believe Verizon's claim that they charge you 0.002 cents a
minute, or the cents will turn into dollars on your first bill, and you
won't be able to explain to the idiots at Verizon where they made their
mistake.

Woody

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 8:39 am
From: Dave Garland

Woody wrote:
> Just don't believe Verizon's claim that they charge you 0.002 cents a
> minute, or the cents will turn into dollars on your first bill, and you
> won't be able to explain to the idiots at Verizon where they made their
> mistake.

You got that right. Although that recording of Verizon idiots was
made in 2005, so they may have figured out by now that cents are not
the same as dollars.

Dave

== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:44 am
From: noel888

This post is directed to those who live with snowy winters who may
have more experience than others..but of course, all I welcomed to
chip in if they care to. My 80 year old uncle, slipped on black ice
here in the east as he was walking to church. Miraculously, nothing
was broken, but he did feel the effects a few days later. I've been on
line searching for such shoes and there are such a wide variety
available..from 'lite' to heavy duty...for recreational to sport
types..from $14 dollars to 149 which makes it all the more confusing.
Also, some 'cleats' wear out and need to be replaced...any suggestions
please?

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:40 am
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

noel888 wrote:
> This post is directed to those who live with snowy winters who may
> have more experience than others..but of course, all I welcomed to
> chip in if they care to. My 80 year old uncle, slipped on black ice
> here in the east as he was walking to church. Miraculously, nothing
> was broken, but he did feel the effects a few days later. I've been on
> line searching for such shoes and there are such a wide variety
> available..from 'lite' to heavy duty...for recreational to sport
> types..from $14 dollars to 149 which makes it all the more confusing.
> Also, some 'cleats' wear out and need to be replaced...any suggestions
> please?

I run one to two hours per day 350 days a year or more. All winter
long we contend with snow and black ice. What I do on black ice days
is use shoes that I have screwed 1/4" hex screws in from the bottom. I
use 3-4 around the heel and up to five in the forefoot in sort of a
penta-star formation. The heel can take screws of 3/4" length with no
problem while the forefoot screws need to be 1/2" or shorter to
prevent feeling them inside. I use the blunt ended screws rather than
pointed. Sometimes a predrilled hole is needed to start the screw.
This really works and the screws would last most of the season when
used for walking short distances. My brother is partly disabled and
this is a must for him.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:47 am
From: "rtandems@yahoo.com"

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___24091

Others like this are available.

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 9:38 am
From: albundy2@mailinator.com

On Feb 5, 10:47 am, "rtand...@yahoo.com" <rtand...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___24091
>
> Others like this are available.

== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 6:50 am
From: noel888

On Feb 5, 1:29 am, Kompu Kid <deg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> I want to remove the knob that moves my pop-up plug for the drain up
> and down.
>
> I tried to pull this knob but it is not moving. I looked around for a
> set screw. There is none.
>
> I have photos of the knob at:
>
> http://cid-eb85de77506ba8ba.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/BathTub?aut...
>
> Is there any trick to removing this type of knob?
>
> I need to remove it to open the clogged drain.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deguza

If your referring to the sink pop up in bathroom, go below the sink
and where the rod is connected to the sink..there is a clip that holds
them together...slide that clip outward and that should free the
connection and you should be able to remove it. BTW, maybe this is
intentional, but your link goes straight to Windows live.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 7:08 am
From: noel888

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 9:32 am
From: "RonABC"

Most likely, you have to take off the part that is attached to the vertical
surface of the tub first. After you take that off, the knob you are
referring to will probably have a cotter pin or similar connection in the
back. The knob is connected to a metal wire/rod that drops down behind the
tub and that is connected to a brass plunger/stopper at the end. The
plunger/stopper is what stops the water from draining out when it is in the
right position. The whole setup comes up and out of the tub through the
hole that is in the vertical wall of the tub behind the piece that covers
the whole.

Usually, there are two screws in the piece that attaches to the vertical
wall of the tub. Yours looks different, so there may be a little cap/cover
over where the connecting screws are, or maybe there is some other way that
the piece is connected.

If you can see a brand name printed on that fixture, maybe you can go to
their website or do an Internet search to see how it disconnects.

Kompu Kid wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> I want to remove the knob that moves my pop-up plug for the drain up
> and down.
>
> I tried to pull this knob but it is not moving. I looked around for a
> set screw. There is none.
>
> I have photos of the knob at:
>
> http://cid-eb85de77506ba8ba.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/BathTub?authkey=Y9O!9fLQTTI%24
>
> Is there any trick to removing this type of knob?
>
> I need to remove it to open the clogged drain.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Deguza

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TOPIC: Verizon can't tell the difference between dollars and cents
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Thurs, Feb 5 2009 9:22 am
From: SMS

Woody wrote:
> Here's an audio recording of a customer call with Verizon. The customer had
> been quoted a rate of 0.002 cents per kilobyte but was actually charged
> $0.002. Not only the customer service rep but the supervisor claims not to
> see a difference between those two concepts.
>
> http://www.reddit.com/goto?id=7uw1f
>
> So who on here was touting Verizon as a good service provider again? Whoever
> it was just got an education.

So two idiots at Verizon that don't understand the difference between
$0.002 and 0.002¢ and that translates to Verizon not having good coverage.

The key question in that admittedly hilarious recording is does the
caller have proof that he was ever quoted 0.002¢ per KB?

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Today's topics:

* Freida Pinto, "star" of "Slumdog Millionaire," shows what a dog she is the
with her bold outfit. Ship that wetback back to wherever she came from! - 1
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a7b08c8a6cf9c69d?hl=en
* Verizon can't tell the difference between dollars and cents - 1 messages, 1
author
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* Semi-OT: Michael Phelps: "I take it back. I don't apologize." - 1 messages,
1 author
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* Bathtub question - 1 messages, 1 author
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* Just heard of a free phone service... - 1 messages, 1 author
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TOPIC: Freida Pinto, "star" of "Slumdog Millionaire," shows what a dog she is
the with her bold outfit. Ship that wetback back to wherever she came from!
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 4 2009 9:04 pm
From: Fring

On Feb 4, 9:32 pm, hp...@lycos.com wrote:
> On Feb 4, 12:53 am, psyber_operati...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> >http://omg.yahoo.com/photos/2-hot-2-handle/2635?nc
>
> > Send the wetback biotch back to whatever third world country she came
> > from! She is the epitome of what has caused America to suffer so
> > much - the influx of in-bred Hispanics!
>
> Hollywood is doing it's best to aid and abet the flooding of America
> by third-world
> aliens. If a show or concept attacks traditional values, or Whites in
> general, the
> Beverly Hills scumbags are all for it.
>
> mitch
>
> http://www.amren.com/ American Renaissance

Racist comments are uncalled for. Keep it to yourself.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 4 2009 9:18 pm
From: "Woody"

Here's an audio recording of a customer call with Verizon. The customer had
been quoted a rate of 0.002 cents per kilobyte but was actually charged
$0.002. Not only the customer service rep but the supervisor claims not to
see a difference between those two concepts.

http://www.reddit.com/goto?id=7uw1f

So who on here was touting Verizon as a good service provider again? Whoever
it was just got an education.

Woody

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TOPIC: Semi-OT: Michael Phelps: "I take it back. I don't apologize."
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 4 2009 10:05 pm
From: Fring

On Feb 4, 9:57 am, lenona...@yahoo.com wrote:
> OK, so it's a joke.
>
> But not really.
>
> http://www.theagitator.com/2009/02/01/a-letter-id-like-to-see-but-wont/
>
> It's a fictional piece written by Radley Balko. It's very good.
>
> However, one thing not quite mentioned (as Sam Harris did in his book,
> "The End of Faith") is how horribly short we are on cash for the
> prevention of nuclear terrorism and how this wouldn't be the case if
> pot were legal.
>
> Lenona.

Very well said.

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 4 2009 10:29 pm
From: Kompu Kid

Hello All:

I want to remove the knob that moves my pop-up plug for the drain up
and down.

I tried to pull this knob but it is not moving. I looked around for a
set screw. There is none.

I have photos of the knob at:

http://cid-eb85de77506ba8ba.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/BathTub?authkey=Y9O!9fLQTTI%24

Is there any trick to removing this type of knob?

I need to remove it to open the clogged drain.

Thanks!

Deguza

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Feb 4 2009 10:31 pm
From: Kompu Kid

Hopefully it covers the part of the world you want to call. Let us
know what you think of it.

Regards,

Deguza

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