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TOPIC: WALL STREET CASINO
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, May 1 2010 10:31 pm
From: "Rod Speed"
Rod Speed wrote:
> F. Kurgan Gringioni wrote
>> Les Cargill <lcargill99@comcast.net> wrote
>>>> If it were to happen that readily, why didn't it happen before Gramm's legislative sleight of hand?
>>> Good question.
>> I'm going to guess that before Gramm's repeal of part of the Glass
>> Steagal Act any entity which was large enough to engage in those
>> transactions were afraid to do it in the UK (even if it was legal) if
>> it involved mortgages based in the US.
> Nope, it did happen, just not to anything like the same extent as it did later.
> It was more of a fad/fashion thing than anything else.
There was also a real sense in which it was an invention thing too.
It took a while for CDOs to be invented, particularly bundling of securitized mortgages.
Then it took them getting AAA ratings that they didnt even come close to qualifying for
that allowed them to be bought by operations that had surplus money that they wanted
a decent return on, particularly when the yield on treasurys was so poor because
interest rates had been driven down in an attempt to stimulate the economy.
And then someone invented CDSs and hordes decided that they were one hell
of a way to minimise risk and the whole thing got up one hell of a head of steam.
It really didnt have a damned thing to do with the changes to the regulations that Gramm was involved in.
>> The US Justice Department has a long, long arm.
> There was a reason it was done by the british arm of those operations.
>> If your firm does business in the US (any entity that size would
>> have a US division), you don't want to fuck with the USDoJ.
> Try telling that to Goldman Sachs. Dont be too surprised when they just laugh in your face.
>> That's just a guess on my part, but IMO it is logical.
> Fraid not.
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TOPIC: Tibetan Monkeys got to make noise!
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 12:07 am
From: don@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein)
In <ce114431-c441-429a-8137-b3c0e2e96fdc@n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:
>(This is something applicable to every area of life. You don't wait
>for Jesus to come and rescue you... YOU MAKE NOISE!)
>
>On Apr 30, 5:19 am, Obbzorbian <Veggy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> monkeys blow tibetin horns
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdBe5b7k-w
>
>Anything that makes noise is good for the monkeys. This is a strategy
>developed for COOPERATION & SURVIVAL.
<I snip past point more on making noise to edit for space>
How about what I can do while riding a bike? Every bike that I ride
has a horn and a siren! Even 1 second after getting out the door with no
add-ons from where the bike came from - if I am riding it, it has a horn
and a siren!
How? The pilot likes to exercise his voice, as in male falsetto usage
as well as sounding like some of the louder rockers from northern 60% of
England, such as Ozzy Osbourne, Ian Anderson, John Lennon, and Holly
Johnson (last of which sounds to me like a rocker but appears to me better
known for disco-ish stuff).
I wear brighter and more vivid clothing, I can make myself heard, and I
am not afraid to be thought to be looking gay or sounding gay. (Maybe in
a few more years, straight male cyclists will look and sound as gay as the
gay ones do as homophobia continues its decline, and then the gay ones
will have only "gaydar" to know who to flirt with. That means to mean to
me that the future has as much need for "gaydar" as the homophobic past
did!)
(And nowadays and recently, it appears to me that cyclists who have less
liking to interact mildly-flirtaceously with gay male cyclists are more
cautious than I am with use of voice.
And that means necessity of more cautious cycling style [in areas with
pedestrians and fellow vehicle drivers], unless the cautious cyclist who
does not want to be suspected to be gay resorts to mechanical as opposed
to vocal noisemaking.)
I am not afraid to say "on your left" as loud and clear as is sung in
the song "Set it Off" by Strafe, or even 6-10 dB louder, with a
"bright-and-clear" "northern England" accent as Strafe used in that song,
even with the mildly-Irish aspect of Liverpool that has some chance (as I
see it) of narrowing down to either John Lennon or Holly Johnson.
Maybe in just a few more years all cyclists in USA of all genders and
sexual orientations will not be afraid to "look as loud" as "road racing
cycling gendre" does, in ways other than "is done in the road-racing club".
For that matter, how about sounding loud? Resort to mechanical or
electic/electronic horns? What about cyclists who would rather exercise
their voices so as to reduce need to spend money on
mechanical/pneumatic/electronic horns?
I look forward to the time when cyclists of all genders and sexual
orientations get more alike in horn-like noisemaking technology,
preferably in usage of both voice and technology. What I suspect from
that is gay-male cyclists practice at that point branching into how they
sense each-other's gayness from distant-past (using mainly "gaydar"),
dressing fashion styles (now to recent past), and appearing-likely-to-me
soon-to-come need of "gaydar" in the future as much as in the past due to
downfall of homophobia likely-allowing straight men to dress as sexy or
colorful as gay men.
Maybe for a few more years, gay male cyclists (even ones with "steady
boyfriends") get to mildly-flirt with each other with how they use their
voices and how they dress...
How soon does the future become like the past, when gay gentlemen have
only/mainly "gaydar" for knowing who to flirt with?
--
- Don Klipstein (don@misty.com)
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 7:35 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"
On May 2, 3:07 am, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:
> In <ce114431-c441-429a-8137-b3c0e2e96...@n15g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
>
> TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit wrote:
> >(This is something applicable to every area of life. You don't wait
> >for Jesus to come and rescue you... YOU MAKE NOISE!)
>
> >On Apr 30, 5:19 am, Obbzorbian <Veggy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> monkeys blow tibetin horns
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVdBe5b7k-w
>
> >Anything that makes noise is good for the monkeys. This is a strategy
> >developed for COOPERATION & SURVIVAL.
>
> <I snip past point more on making noise to edit for space>
>
> How about what I can do while riding a bike? Every bike that I ride
> has a horn and a siren! Even 1 second after getting out the door with no
> add-ons from where the bike came from - if I am riding it, it has a horn
> and a siren!
>
> How? The pilot likes to exercise his voice, as in male falsetto usage
> as well as sounding like some of the louder rockers from northern 60% of
> England, such as Ozzy Osbourne, Ian Anderson, John Lennon, and Holly
> Johnson (last of which sounds to me like a rocker but appears to me better
> known for disco-ish stuff).
>
> I wear brighter and more vivid clothing, I can make myself heard, and I
> am not afraid to be thought to be looking gay or sounding gay. (Maybe in
> a few more years, straight male cyclists will look and sound as gay as the
> gay ones do as homophobia continues its decline, and then the gay ones
> will have only "gaydar" to know who to flirt with. That means to mean to
> me that the future has as much need for "gaydar" as the homophobic past
> did!)
>
> (And nowadays and recently, it appears to me that cyclists who have less
> liking to interact mildly-flirtaceously with gay male cyclists are more
> cautious than I am with use of voice.
> And that means necessity of more cautious cycling style [in areas with
> pedestrians and fellow vehicle drivers], unless the cautious cyclist who
> does not want to be suspected to be gay resorts to mechanical as opposed
> to vocal noisemaking.)
>
> I am not afraid to say "on your left" as loud and clear as is sung in
> the song "Set it Off" by Strafe, or even 6-10 dB louder, with a
> "bright-and-clear" "northern England" accent as Strafe used in that song,
> even with the mildly-Irish aspect of Liverpool that has some chance (as I
> see it) of narrowing down to either John Lennon or Holly Johnson.
>
> Maybe in just a few more years all cyclists in USA of all genders and
> sexual orientations will not be afraid to "look as loud" as "road racing
> cycling gendre" does, in ways other than "is done in the road-racing club".
>
> For that matter, how about sounding loud? Resort to mechanical or
> electic/electronic horns? What about cyclists who would rather exercise
> their voices so as to reduce need to spend money on
> mechanical/pneumatic/electronic horns?
>
> I look forward to the time when cyclists of all genders and sexual
> orientations get more alike in horn-like noisemaking technology,
> preferably in usage of both voice and technology. What I suspect from
> that is gay-male cyclists practice at that point branching into how they
> sense each-other's gayness from distant-past (using mainly "gaydar"),
> dressing fashion styles (now to recent past), and appearing-likely-to-me
> soon-to-come need of "gaydar" in the future as much as in the past due to
> downfall of homophobia likely-allowing straight men to dress as sexy or
> colorful as gay men.
>
> Maybe for a few more years, gay male cyclists (even ones with "steady
> boyfriends") get to mildly-flirt with each other with how they use their
> voices and how they dress...
>
> How soon does the future become like the past, when gay gentlemen have
> only/mainly "gaydar" for knowing who to flirt with?
>
> --
> - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)
You raise some interesting points:
First we have a lot in common with the gay community: WE NEED TO COME
OUT OF THE CLOSET, MAKE NOISE AND BE COLORFUL.
I do not wear lycra, but I wear the orange safety vest, and my regular
bell. The color itself warns them this is not something they can
ignore. As for noise, I meant that unless we go and make all kinds of
parades, protests and simply throw shit at the system the denies us
space, we won't get what we want. The money will be wasted in some
absurd bike path (like here) with no attention to the needs of the
cyclists.
Hey, you may wear one of those t-shirts that say "HUNGRY?" "YOU CAN
EAT MY BANANA!" Sometimes I wear one of those, which I hope is read
the right way... ;)
(I'll knock down my commission for you)
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== 1 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 8:15 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"
I think through a long process of evolution and consumption, the
hunter gatherer genes found the perfect reincarnation in the modern
Christian. Armed with SUV and credit card, Christians go bargain
hunting to those cathedrals of consumption (malls). It almost sounds
like poetic if it wasn't pathetic, huh? ;)
"Homo consumericus (mock Latin for consumerist person) is a neologism
used in the social sciences, specially by Gad Saad in his book The
Evolutionary Bases of Consumption.[1] and Gilles Lipovetsky's Le
Bonheur Paradoxale.[2] According to these and other scholars the
phenomenon of mass consumption could be compared to certain traits of
human psychology described by evolutionary scientists pointing out
similitudes between Darwinian principles and consumer behaviour.[3]
[4] Lipovetsky has noted that modern times have brought about the
rise of a third type of Homo comsumericus who is improvisible and
always unsatisfied.[5]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Consumericus
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THE WISE TIBETAN MONKEY SAYS
"Ride a bike and enjoy the breeze, the sun and the moon --or die like
a fat pig"
http://webspawner.com/users/BANANAREVOLUTION
== 2 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 1:07 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"
On May 2, 3:47 pm, DanP <dan.pe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 2 May, 00:33, "TibetanMonkey, the-Monkey-with-the-Bag-of-Shit"
>
>
>
> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On May 1, 4:31 pm, DanP <dan.pe...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On 1 May, 18:02, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Sources of CO2:
> > > > Humans burning all fossil fuels - 7 PgC
> > > > Plants - 60 PgC
> > > > Soil - 60 PgC
> > > > Oceans - 76 PgC
>
> > > Overall plants get rid of CO2. The 60 PgC number refers to plat
> > > respiration and is largely offset by plant assimilation, 120 PgC.
> > > On that page one thing is missing from the picture, CO2 emissions from
> > > animal breathing. It seems it is included in the soil respiration.
>
> > > In the past CO2 levels have been much higher than todayhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Phanerozoic_Carbon_Dioxide.png
> > > And the Earth still had ice ages.
>
> > > DanP
>
> > So people shouldn't rush to junk the SUVs?
>
> > They are also dangerous to other drivers and cyclists.
>
> It will make no difference if people scrap their SUV's or not.
> Eventually someone will burn all that available oil.
> I hear Chinese monkeys are giving up on push bikes.
>
> DanP
Too much American influence. MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO.
But the Dutch are not giving up on theirs...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qk6YxhKH590
== 3 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 2:00 pm
From: Charmin
His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of
Quixotic
HAHAHA
If you had two nickels you would be dangerous, but you don't.
== 4 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 2:01 pm
From: "h"
"Charmin" <charmin@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:819bda89-2b21-4be0-b539-e12153ddcc1f@i9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of
> Quixotic
>
> HAHAHA
> If you had two nickels you would be dangerous, but you don't.
Please, just killfile that moron so the rest of us don't have to see the
screed. Otherwise, we'll just have to plonk you instead.
== 5 of 5 ==
Date: Sun, May 2 2010 6:05 pm
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of Quixotic
Enterprises"
On May 2, 5:00 pm, Charmin <char...@mailinator.com> wrote:
> His Highness the TibetanMonkey, ComandanteBanana and Chief of
> Quixotic
>
> HAHAHA
> If you had two nickels you would be dangerous, but you don't.
The Truth is still dangerous...
On May 2, 5:15 pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> Larry <no...@home.com> wrote in news:Xns9D6CAE23E4DE2noonehomecom@
> 74.209.131.13:
>
> >http://www.collateralmurder.com/
>
> I've never been so ashamed to be an American. THIS is what we need to show
> in schools instead of some stupid Algore climate movie or bullshit
> Creationism.
>
> That might insure that it doesn't happen in the future if the next
> generation refuses to participate.
>
> --
> Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.
>
> Larry
The problems with OIL WASTE are manifold, one being the environment,
other CORRUPTION & WAR...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV5MVEJbS-U
But I don't disagree with your "right" to drive an SUV, if you
acknowledge mine to ride a bike in peace and safety.
***
My warriors go in the jungle with three weapons: THE TRUTH, A BANANA
(love/finger) and BAG OF SHIT.
Well, at least I have fun throwing the shit.
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