Sunday, January 26, 2020

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 26 05:08AM -0800

> https://www.fool.com/retirement/2019/09/16/3-hard-to-believe-social-security-facts.aspx
 
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/01/biden-vs-sanders-on-social-security-and-medicare/
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Jan 25 11:01PM -0700

On 01/25/2020 03:51 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> with a tendency to go beyond my means."
 
> That was my smoking pattern, but add in "starting or finishing a task or
> phone call or pretty much anything else".
 
That was the biggest problem when I stopped smoking. Back then if you
stopped to talk to someone at work you lit up. Get a cup of coffee, grab
a butt. Think about a design problem, fire up a Lucky.
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Saturday, January 25, 2020

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"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Jan 25 03:39PM -0500

<ggggg9271@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5d8d4065-3d1e-4e5c-b031-565a7721e9d4@googlegroups.com...
> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/08/how-this-japanese-method-of-saving-money-changed-my-lifeand-made-me-richer.html
 
"Instead, I had a habit of shopping when I felt bored, stressed, or unhappy
about something. I also shopped when I was in a good or celebratory mood,
with a tendency to go beyond my means."
 
I have never understood people who enjoy shopping. To me people who enjoy
shopping have their brains wired wrong, just like people who enjoy gambling.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 25 01:11PM -0800

On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 2:39:06 PM UTC-6, catalpa wrote:
> with a tendency to go beyond my means."
 
> I have never understood people who enjoy shopping. To me people who enjoy
> shopping have their brains wired wrong, just like people who enjoy gambling.
 
I enjoy shopping if I find exactly what I needed and was looking for. But
just to go shopping to *find* something to buy or just shopping out of
boredom is not something I do.
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Jan 25 02:57PM -0700

On 01/25/2020 01:39 PM, catalpa wrote:
> with a tendency to go beyond my means."
 
> I have never understood people who enjoy shopping. To me people who enjoy
> shopping have their brains wired wrong, just like people who enjoy gambling.
 
I don't enjoy shopping in that sense. However when looking for an item,
say a car, I do enjoy doing the research and comparing the various
options to find the best match for my purposes.
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: Jan 25 02:51PM -0800

On 01/25/2020 12:39 PM, catalpa wrote:
 
> "Instead, I had a habit of shopping when I felt bored, stressed, or unhappy
> about something. I also shopped when I was in a good or celebratory mood,
> with a tendency to go beyond my means."
 
That was my smoking pattern, but add in "starting or finishing a task or
phone call or pretty much anything else".
 
> I have never understood people who enjoy shopping. To me people who enjoy
> shopping have their brains wired wrong, just like people who enjoy gambling.
 
Shopping is what you do when you need something. And you do it alone,
and as quickly and efficiently and cheaply as possible.
 
Exception: yard sales. You never know what you'll find, and it won't
cost much more than a buck! The downside is that eventually you just
have pathways through your house.
 
 
--
Cheers, Bev
"By the time they had diminished from 50 to 8, the other
dwarves began to suspect 'Hungry.'" -Gary Larson
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 25 03:31PM -0800

On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 4:51:18 PM UTC-6, The Real Bev wrote:
> cost much more than a buck! The downside is that eventually you just
> have pathways through your house.
 
> Cheers, Bev
 
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!
"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org>: Jan 25 03:47PM -0500

"ItsJoan NotJoann" <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> https://www.vox.com/health-care/2020/1/13/21028702/medicare-for-all-taiwan-health-insurance
 
So now we should all move to Taiwan?
 
Small island. Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 25 01:09PM -0800

On Saturday, January 25, 2020 at 2:47:27 PM UTC-6, catalpa wrote:
 
> > https://www.vox.com/health-care/2020/1/13/21028702/medicare-for-all-taiwan-health-insurance
 
> So now we should all move to Taiwan?
 
> Small island. Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded.
 
Good point and there would just be standing room only if we all en masse
emigrated there.
 
:o)
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Friday, January 24, 2020

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 24 12:30AM -0800

On Thursday, February 23, 2006 at 10:26:17 AM UTC-8, CJ wrote:
> week or two supply. I figure if things aren't back in shape after that
> much time, we're all screwed anyway....
 
> CJ
 
https://www.keloland.com/video/study-finds-majority-of-americans-dont-save-for-emergencies/4270504/
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 24 04:05PM -0800


> > Maybe this belongs in some survivalist newsgroup, but I figure I'm more
> > likely to get rational answers in the consumer-oriented newsgroups.
 
> > CJ
 
- - - - Content snipped for brevity. - - - -
 
> https://www.keloland.com/video/study-finds-majority-of-americans-dont-save-for-emergencies/4270504/
 
Bore shitless, eh? Dragging up fourteen (14) year old posts to reply to.
Good grief.
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 24 01:08PM -0800


> "But holes began to appear in the thrift ethic during World War I. Tucker says the damage was done mostly by two forces that had been around in a primitive form for years, but that suddenly became sophisticated and widespread: advertising and credit."
 
> (The idea of thrift pretty much disappeared from American media and schools in the 1970s. D. said that T. said that one small ray of hope for the future lies in the Keynesian economists dying off.)
 
> Lenona.
 
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=860qXpudHIne-gTkrKzABg&q=fortune+cookie+sayings+%22your+fortune+is+in+another+cookie%22&oq=fortune+cookie+sayings+%22your+fortune+is+in+another+cookie%22&gs_l=img.3...84137.91401..91735...0.0..0.447.5003.14j22j1j0j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i67j0j0i8i30.lrhEOuPAtOE&ved=0ahUKEwjb4qDm65vnAhUJr54KHWQWC2gQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=6RPN9ASyiOypuM:
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 24 02:22PM -0800


> We are probably the only members of society in the history of mankind for which the younger generation has so little respect and has demonstrated such a shameful lack of regard.
 
> Senior citizens are constantly being criticized, belittled and sniped at for every conceivable deficiency of the modern world, real and imaginary.
 
> Upon reflection, I would like to point out that it wasn`t the senior citizens who took the melody out of music, or the beauty out of art...
 
- Atonality was the great barrier reef on which modern music shattered, as the stream-of-consciousness was the torpedo that sank the novel and abstraction the anesthetic that put painting to sleep.
 
Bernard Levin
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Thursday, January 23, 2020

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Squiggy <caedfaa9ed1216d60ef78a6f660f5f85_14838@example.com>: Jan 23 02:44AM

replying to daestrom, Squiggy wrote:
Living in Portland, Oregon. Gas for range, forced air furnace and domestic hot
water.
Lowest use ~.5 therms / day (summer), highest use ~ 4.5 therms / day (March
'19), average about 1.5 therms /day.
 
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Monday, January 20, 2020

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 20 01:45AM -0800


> "But holes began to appear in the thrift ethic during World War I. Tucker says the damage was done mostly by two forces that had been around in a primitive form for years, but that suddenly became sophisticated and widespread: advertising and credit."
 
> (The idea of thrift pretty much disappeared from American media and schools in the 1970s. D. said that T. said that one small ray of hope for the future lies in the Keynesian economists dying off.)
 
> Lenona.
 
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/08/how-this-japanese-method-of-saving-money-changed-my-lifeand-made-me-richer.html
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 20 03:08PM -0800


> https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/08/how-this-japanese-method-of-saving-money-changed-my-lifeand-made-me-richer.html
 
Soooooo, how much have YOU saved using this method or are just on a mission
to post as many sites as possible?
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 20 06:48AM -0800

> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/used-car-prices-are-weirdly-spiking-and-tariffs-may-be-to-blame.html?recirc=taboolainternal
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRAJwaLV-iU
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 20 06:48AM -0800

> https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/17/used-car-prices-are-weirdly-spiking-and-tariffs-may-be-to-blame.html?recirc=taboolainternal
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRAJwaLV-iU
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 20 06:37AM -0800

> Affected by gov't shutdown?
 
https://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/taxes/best-tax-software/
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 20 01:21AM -0800

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-5-best-white-noise-machines-on-amazon
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 20 02:14AM -0800

> https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-5-best-white-noise-machines-on-amazon
 
https://www.chicagotribune.com/consumer-reviews/sns-bestreviews-products-to-get-better-sleep-20200102-spr5xesmpnbgnafagwrtammoba-story.html
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 20 02:03AM -0800

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/if-you-want-to-live-your-dream-life-you-need-to-calculate-your-billable-hour-2020-01-14
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 20 01:44AM -0800

> Many good points get raised - including ones you might not have thought of already.
 
> https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/12/15/estate-planning-wrong-to-not-leave-children-inheritance/4385107002/
 
> Lenona.
 
https://www.businessinsider.com/how-spent-10000-inherited-when-grandpa-died
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 20 01:39AM -0800

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/08/how-this-japanese-method-of-saving-money-changed-my-lifeand-made-me-richer.html
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Sunday, January 19, 2020

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blinkingblythe01@gmail.com: Jan 19 01:54PM -0800

If it's Boeing, I ain't going.
blinkingblythe01@gmail.com: Jan 19 01:57PM -0800

They cheaped oit but in the end it cost
WAY more than if they just built a new
airframe and pilots had to be recertified
to fly it.
 
Again, if it's Boeing, I ain't going.
blinkingblythe01@gmail.com: Jan 19 01:47PM -0800

Except new clothes are ill fitting fast
fashion shit unless you buy expensive
(and I don't mean The Gap or whatever,
I mean EXPENSIVE).
 
At least at Goodwill and other thrift
stores I can find a good quality shirt
which will last for more than a month,
and fit my big frame well. I love the
big 70's collars, and those shirts are
typicaly built well, because
most of the time they were made in the USA. Even when they are not, the quality
is still good (no made in Bangledesh or
someother shitwater country)
Beaver_Fever@live.com: Jan 18 06:24PM -0800


> Yeah I wouldn't pay a lawyer.
 
> My few friends are like me, no car, no money, no clue (I am still pretending to be broke).
 
> No family in the area.
 
And I want to maybe leave everything to my sister's kids.
 
One is in the military and haven't talked to him in forever. One is 20 and likes to party. One is 5.
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Friday, January 17, 2020

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rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Jan 16 09:08PM -0700

> I have to say, I'd never heard about cleaning your dishwasher.
 
Cleaning my dishwasher means rinsing out or sometimes replacing the dish
cloth.
Whoey Louie <trader4@optonline.net>: Jan 17 07:48AM -0800


> "A person's home is likely one of the most expensive things they'll ever buy, so it should come as little surprise that many homeowners are looking to save some cash when it comes time to start fixing up such a pricey investment. In fact, according to a report from Global Market Insights, the DIY home improvement market is growing rapidly—it's expected to account for more than $680 billion of the global home improvement market by 2025. However, when it comes to fixing up your home, what you don't know can hurt you—that's why we've gathered insights from the top home improvement experts on the home maintenance mistakes you can't afford to keep making this year. And for more pitfalls to avoid as a homeowner, check out 23 Bad Home Design Choices That Cause Damage."
 
> Lenona.
 
First clue, when something requires you to flip through 51 slides,
it's probably mostly BS to get you to look at advertising. Many times
they have a great teaser to lure you in, then that's only on the last slide.
 
As for a faulty appliance creating surges that destroy something else,
it's theoretically possible, but I've never seen it happen. And all
appliances have built in surge protection to limit any voltage spikes
so that they won't damage the appliance. Usually that damage comes
from surges due to lightning on either AC or communication lines.
 
Cleaning a dishwasher, you can do with a cycle using about 1/4 cup of
citric acid added in. It's the main component of the expensive DW
cleaning products.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 17 03:00PM -0800

On Friday, January 17, 2020 at 9:48:45 AM UTC-6, Whoey Louie wrote:
 
> First clue, when something requires you to flip through 51 slides,
> it's probably mostly BS to get you to look at advertising. Many times
> they have a great teaser to lure you in, then that's only on the last slide.
 
This is not the only group she posts click bait to and she's been told more
than once most people aren't fond of scrolling through page after page after
page.
> appliances have built in surge protection to limit any voltage spikes
> so that they won't damage the appliance. Usually that damage comes
> from surges due to lightning on either AC or communication lines.
 
Are you saying this click bait article is incorrect?!?!?!?!? How dare
they! ;o)
 
> Cleaning a dishwasher, you can do with a cycle using about 1/4 cup of
> citric acid added in. It's the main component of the expensive DW
> cleaning products.
 
My dishwasher is attached to the ends of my arms; they're called hands.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 17 10:31AM -0800

> https://www.fool.com/retirement/2019/09/16/3-hard-to-believe-social-security-facts.aspx
 
https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/01/17/social-security-2020-6-changes-you-should-expect-year/2827098001/
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Monday, January 13, 2020

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ggggg9271@gmail.com: Jan 12 10:34PM -0800

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/the-myth-of-free-shipping/603031/
rbowman <bowman@montana.com>: Jan 13 08:20AM -0700

> https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/the-myth-of-free-shipping/603031/
 
I have no illusions about Amazon's 'free' two day delivery and
understand the costs are factored in. However the hidden costs are more
palatable to me than the infamous $8 S&H charge on a $2 order,
particularly when the S&H involves putting a small item in a business
envelope, sticking on a stamp, and dropping it off at the PO.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 13 07:21AM -0800

On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 9:19:51 AM UTC-6, rbowman wrote:
> palatable to me than the infamous $8 S&H charge on a $2 order,
> particularly when the S&H involves putting a small item in a business
> envelope, sticking on a stamp, and dropping it off at the PO.
 
Nailed it!!
sam <caedfaa9ed1216d60ef78a6f660f5f85_14816@example.com>: Jan 13 02:14PM

replying to handyman72, sam wrote:
I used to work for HDC and got to see the product close up and in action. The
company sent items such as Honda generators and Dewalt drills to China and had
them copy them, changing it just enough to keepfrom being sued. The Chineese
are experts at making things cheaper but the problem is they don't know where
to stop. HDC quality control would receive an item from China and test it and,
if it met standards agree to purchase a container full. After several
containers if you brought out the original sample and compared it to what they
were currently sending you could see that the Chineese were making it even
cheaper than the original sample thus increasing their profit. Some of their
tools were a great value but yes some were cheap worthless crap; it helps to
use a little common sense when purchasing things! The angle grinder they gave
away if you bought a pack of grinding wheels wasn't worth buying ( I saw them
burn up after a few minutes of use) but the next step up for $15 more
(Speedway series) was a great grinder and it was a great value. Yes buyer
beware but don't be an idiot! Concerning hand tools such as rachets, anything
from them smaller than 1/2" drive was junk but I purchased a 3/4" drive socket
set and almost 20 years later I'm still using it. Just remember if it looks
cheaply made it will probably break but sometimes there is a middle ground
between junk and top of the line.
 
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ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: Jan 13 06:44AM -0800

On Monday, January 13, 2020 at 8:14:04 AM UTC-6, sam wrote:
 
> I used to work for HDC and got to see the product close up and in action.
> --
> for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/beware-of-homier-dist-tools-547611-.htm
 
Shiiiiiiiiit! What would we do without out this reply to a sixteen (16)
year old thread?!?!?! Thank goodness you came along and set us straight.
Now I can sleep peacefully tonight with this much needed information.
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