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* Moderation is Not Always a Good Thing - 2 messages, 2 authors
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* Speed Cameras + Red Light Cameras = Safer Roads (conspiracy theory) - 2
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* Shopping around: Tai Chi vs. Buddhism vs. Beach Cruiser Philosophy - 1
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TOPIC: Moderation is Not Always a Good Thing
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/f8f4b5e4969f0875?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Fri, Apr 29 2011 10:32 pm
From: bosco
On 2011-04-29 18:50:33 -0600, Harry Brogan
<hbroganjr@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> said:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:35:31 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
> wrote:
>
>> "Tºm Shermªn™ °_°" <""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI$southslope.net"> wrote in
>> message news:ipfdn1$qoe$1@dont-email.me...
>>> On 4/29/2011 5:18 AM, Harry Brogan complained:
>> [...]
>>>> Why do you waste your time responding to this TROLL? It's pieces of
>>>> shit like these that have destroyed A.R.B.R. among other groups.
>>>> TRASH such as this cannot survive on the moderated forums where most
>>>> of the DECENT people have moved.
>>>
>>> Moderated forums are boring.
>>>
>>> POST FREE OR DIE!
>>
>> On the other hand, unmoderated forums are only good for one thing ...
>> kicking ass! This will result in someone having a sore ass and someone else
>> having a sore foot.
>
>
> Certainly tru Ed!!!! I would disagree with that comment I see about
> "moderated forums being boring"........Why would that be I wonder?
> Boring for those that are unable to continually post dribble I would
> bet.....
From my perspective, "Why do you waste your time..." was by far more
inciting than what the supposed Troll posted. It may tend to make
people who may post something on topic, not post because they do not
want to be flamed or accused of being a Troll.
ben
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 30 2011 2:15 am
From: Harry Brogan
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:28:23 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
wrote:
>"Harry Brogan" <hbroganjr@NOSPAMyahooNOSPAM.com> wrote in message
>news:j4nmr6lrf0vvrc2u3tpm9013e8b3d7896s@4ax.com...
>[...]
>> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 18:35:31 -0500, "Edward Dolan" <edolan@iw.net>
>> wrote:
>[...]
>>>On the other hand, unmoderated forums are only good for one thing ...
>>>kicking ass! This will result in someone having a sore ass and someone
>>>else
>>>having a sore foot.
>>
>> Certainly tru Ed!!!! I would disagree with that comment I see about
>> "moderated forums being boring"........Why would that be I wonder?
>> Boring for those that are unable to continually post dribble I would
>> bet.....
>
>The trouble with a moderated forum is that it depends on the excellence of
>the moderator. Frankly, it is lot of work to do that and almost no one will
>ever want to do it. Only fully staffed websites are capable of it.
>
>Such forums tend to be boring because almost nothing of a controversial
>nature can be said without someone taking offense. As a result everyone says
>only the most innocuous things. I think one of the main virtues of the
>Internet is that the common man gets an opportunity to say whatever he wants
>without being subject to an editor. However, this often means that the
>lowest common denominator prevails. The secret is never to take an
>unmoderated forum seriously. Just have fun and enjoy!
True Ed. I NEVER take anything the comes from Tom Sherman
serious.....
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TOPIC: Speed Cameras + Red Light Cameras = Safer Roads (conspiracy theory)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/05dcd9859c28adf1?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 30 2011 7:10 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
On Apr 29, 8:58 pm, Jessica Powell <jessica.pow...@spam.ah> wrote:
> On 4/29/2011 10:29 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
>
>
> Philosopher wrote:
> > On Apr 29, 10:06 am, N8N<njna...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Apr 29, 9:42 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> >> Philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>> On Apr 29, 9:37 am, N8N<njna...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On Apr 29, 9:31 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> >>>> Philosopher"<nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>> On Apr 29, 9:18 am, N8N<njna...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> On Apr 29, 12:10 am, "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach
>
> >>>>>> Cruiser Philosopher"<comandante.ban...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Apr 28, 10:00 pm, Jessica Powell<jessica.pow...@spam.ah> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> On 4/28/2011 10:19 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> >>>>>>>> Philosopher wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 28, 8:19 am, Jessica Powell<jessica.pow...@spam.ah> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On 4/27/2011 11:50 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> >>>>>>>>>> Philosopher wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 27, 9:47 pm, Jessica Powell<jessica.pow...@spam.ah> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2011 11:47 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Philosopher wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 10:04 pm, Jessica Powell<jessica.pow...@spam.ah> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2011 1:23 PM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Philosopher wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 26, 7:51 am, Steve<stevencan...@yahooooo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 04:40:32 -0700 (PDT), "His Highness the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <nolionnoprob...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 10:49 pm, Jessica Powell<jessica.pow...@spam.ah> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/25/2011 9:26 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I rather have you fight Red Light Cameras than Speed Cameras. They
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are more susceptible to tricks and doesn't tame traffic that much.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have one you must have the other... or nothing at all!
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> False dichotomy fallacy.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Better
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yet, remove the signs that were meant to catch drivers not protect the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people, as you claim to be the case.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I made no such claim about signs.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me give you my thoughts:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Light Cameras are meaningless but profitable. Speed Cameras are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningful and profitable...
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red Light Cameras are meaningful. Anything that inhibits red light
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running is meaningful.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We still have the traffic going wild instead of being tamed. They race
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and zigzag between lights
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Even scameras don't take pictures between lights so not sure what you
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are even talking about.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm talking about the SPEED CAMERAS doing the job between lights and
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> doing a better job at TAMING TRAFFIC. That is the goal, right?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> They do a better job of sending scam and nearly unbeatable phony
> >>>>>>>>>>>> tickets, forcing innocent law abiding drivers to pay up. If the goal is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> a racket style scheme, they do a fantastic job.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> That sounds interesting. Another conspiracy theory!
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> So who's behind, Big Brother, contractors, who else? Is the Jewish
> >>>>>>>>>>> lawyer in it? Maybe he's promoting this campaign against cameras. ;)
>
> >>>>>>>>>> More straw man fallacy.
>
> >>>>>>>>> Listen, listen, take your pick...
>
> >>>>>>>> False dichotomy fallacy.
>
> >>>>>>> Well, someone must be behind the corruption of the cameras, who is it?
> >>>>>>> Or are you blaming the technology now?
>
> >>>>>> The manufacturers of the cameras, primarily, and also those that buy
> >>>>>> their sales pitch either without applying critical thinking skills and/
> >>>>>> or knowing what's going on but giving in to the lure of revenue at the
> >>>>>> expense of safety.
>
> >>>>> Do we have the technology to limit speed to the posted speed? Perhaps
> >>>>> we can retire the cameras then.
>
> >>>> Completely undesirable, as you would understand if you've ever driven
> >>>> on a two lane road that allows passing.
>
> >>> The priority is TAMING TRAFFIC... whatever it takes. We have to stop
> >>> the carnage and road rage.
>
> >> You are implying that aggressive, angry, raging drivers are a
> >> widespread problem. I believe that that is a media-generated
> >> fallacy. However, stupid, incompetent drivers I see every day (and
> >> may very easily contribute to normal people *becoming* angry drivers.)
>
> >> nate
>
> > The fact that *everybody* has to drive in America
>
> Nonsense.
Oh yes, public transportation --which I just gave up for good-- and
safe bicycling are not possible in any meaningful way.
I'd expect that bicycling at least would work since it doesn't depend
on a bureaucracy and it only takes TAMING TRAFFIC.
== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 30 2011 11:43 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
It is said AMERICA'S #1, but it's not actually true... IT IS #3!
(Now I'm redeemed and can take a nap in my hammock)
The Top Ten Most Dangerous Countries to Drive in
The list starts at number 10 with the least dangerous of the finalists
and working down to the ones you, as a driver, really want to avoid at
all costs. So before you start, where in the list do you think the
United Kingdom comes in?
1. Belgium - 100 deaths per year for every million inhabitants.168
deaths per year for every million vehicles
2. Czech Republic - 118 deaths per year for every million
inhabitants. 235 deaths per year for every million vehicles
3. United States of America - 136 deaths per year for every million
inhabitants. 163 deaths per year for every million vehicles
4. Greece - 121 deaths per year for every million inhabitants. 226
deaths per year for every million vehicles
5. Korea - 127 deaths per year for every million inhabitants. 317
deaths per year for every million vehicles
6. Hungary - 123 deaths per year for every million inhabitants. 347
deaths per year for every million vehicles
7. Turkey - 68 deaths per year for every million inhabitants - 594
deaths per year for every million vehicles
8. Poland - 147 deaths per year for every million inhabitants. 310
deaths per year for every million vehicles
9. Slovakia - 122 deaths per year for every million inhabitants.
426 deaths per year for every million vehicles
10. Russia - 235 deaths per year for every million inhabitants. 939
deaths per year for every million vehicles
United Kingdom
So despite what you might think about the UK's roads and RTAs, Britain
doesn't make it into the top ten and in fact is consistently proven to
be one of the safest countries in the world to drive in – alongside
Sweden and The Netherlands.
http://www.safetravel.co.uk/dangerous-countries-drive-in.html
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TOPIC: Shopping around: Tai Chi vs. Buddhism vs. Beach Cruiser Philosophy
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/t/a8c7ab8dba88ad55?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Sat, Apr 30 2011 8:54 am
From: "His Highness the TibetanMonkey, the Beach Cruiser Philosopher"
Supposed you were shopping around for RELAXATION & WISDOM, what are
the three main paths to enlightenment?
Buddhism is good but you don't move, and Tai Chi needs a teacher and
mental discipline. Beach Cruiser Philosophy, on the other hand,
embraces the beach cruiser and the hammock. What can be better than
riding a bike away from traffic and later resting on a hammock? Notice
you need a tree like Buddha to complement happiness.
Today is Tai Chi Day, which is the reason I write this, but we must
say every day is good to ride a bike. I leave you with a nice relaxing
view of the Netherlands...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkPbTvJZFSI
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