Frugal Living: Sep 26, 2007

Wednesday, September 26, 2007

25 new messages in 8 topics - digest

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TOPIC: Crowd cheers as Tancredo blasts illegal -- and legal -- immigration in
U.S.
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/defc6d96c0bb0533?hl=en
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== 1 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 4:18 pm
From: sauteedshrimp@yahoo.com

On Sep 25, 7:03 pm, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> In article <4XfKi.2184$6K4.705@trnddc06>,
> "Bill Walker" <bill.walk...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "BTR1701" <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >news:btr1702-901E0E.14373325092007@news.giganews.com...
> > > In article <VhcKi.3758$Wo4.906@trnddc03>,
> > > "Bill Walker" <bill.walk...@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> > >> "BobR" <re...@r-a-reed-assoc.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:1190729022.607307.269170@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> > >> > On Sep 25, 8:03 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> > >> >> "BTR1701" <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
>
> > >> >>news:btr1702-254081.18463124092007@news.giganews.com...
>
> > >> >> > American Patriot <SincereQuestio...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> >> Tancredo has the same chance as a snowball does in hell......
>
> > >> >> > Doesn't mean he's wrong.
>
> > >> >> Yes it does.
> > >> >> In order to do the job, ideals are not enough.
> > >> >> You have to have an implementation plan.
>
> > >> >> Tancredo's implementation plan doesn't exist.
> > >> >> He's just a got a lot of slogans that sound good... in theory.
>
> > >> > Sounds just like the entire DEMOCRATIC PARTY and all of its
> > >> > leadership.
>
> > >> Have you sent your check to cover your share of all this
> > >> enforcement and deportation expense.. Or, does everyone
> > >> else have to cover your portion of those costs?
>
> > > They can just take the money to pay for border enforcement
> > > (which is a proper function of the federal government) from
> > > all the social welfare programs (which, according to the
> > > Constitution, are not a proper function of the federal
> > > government) and/or end that folly in Iraq and use the billion
> > > dollars a day that's costing to fund it. If they did either
> > > of those things, there'd be plenty of money with some left
> > > over.
>
> > Whups.. <evil grin> Those elected representatives that
> > you helped elect don't quite see it that way, do they?
>
> First, I didn't help elect the ones who don't see it that way.
>
> The real failure here lies with the judiciary, which should long ago
> have put the brakes on unconstitutional federal spending. Instead,
> during the New Deal, they enabled it by essentially declaring that
> everything under the sun affects interstate commerce, thereby giving
> Congress virtually unlimited jurisdiction.
>
> Notice how the politicians always focus on things like abortion during
> Supreme Court confirmation hearings but they never, ever, ever ask about
> how the candidate feels about the constitutional limits of Congressional
> power. It's like Voldemort. It's that which shall not be spoken.

Enjoy the Republican party being out of power for at least the next 12
years BTR. Blame it on GWBush.

== 2 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 4:31 pm
From: "Sanders Kaufman"

"BTR1701" <btr1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:btr1702-5A20C5.19032425092007@news.giganews.com...
> In article <4XfKi.2184$6K4.705@trnddc06>,
> "Bill Walker" <bill.walker2@verizon.net> wrote:

>> Whups.. <evil grin> Those elected representatives that
>> you helped elect don't quite see it that way, do they?
>
> First, I didn't help elect the ones who don't see it that way.

It's such a delight to see you right-wingers deny your past this way.

>
> The real failure here lies with the judiciary, which should long ago
> have put the brakes on unconstitutional federal spending. Instead,
> during the New Deal, they enabled it by essentially declaring that
> everything under the sun affects interstate commerce, thereby giving
> Congress virtually unlimited jurisdiction.
>
> Notice how the politicians always focus on things like abortion during
> Supreme Court confirmation hearings but they never, ever, ever ask about
> how the candidate feels about the constitutional limits of Congressional
> power. It's like Voldemort. It's that which shall not be spoken.

== 3 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 4:30 pm
From: "Sanders Kaufman"

"BTR1701" <btr1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:btr1702-901E0E.14373325092007@news.giganews.com...

> They can just take the money to pay for border enforcement (which is a
> proper function of the federal government) from all the social welfare
> programs (which, according to the Constitution, are not a proper
> function of the federal government)

You keep getting that wrong.
Fortunately, in the 200 years since, the legislature has never agreed with
you Johnny Rebs.
So you'll just have to submit to our authority.

== 4 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 4:33 pm
From: "Sanders Kaufman"

"BobR" <reed1@r-a-reed-assoc.com> wrote in message
news:1190749403.033026.194000@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

> I get to see the effect of my contribution toward the EFFECT of all
> the illegals every single month when I look at the charity write-offs
> resulting from being forced to give free medical treatment to all the
> illegals. I would much rather pay to get rid of them than continue to
> pay to support them forever. Besides, the more of them we allow to
> say...the more will come and demand the same.

Fortunately, it's not up to you White Separatists to decide who we let in,
and who we don't.

== 5 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 4:33 pm
From: "Sanders Kaufman"

"BTR1701" <btr1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:btr1702-DA31CC.14335925092007@news.giganews.com...

> Sure he does. Read his book. There's all sorts of implementation in
> there.

No - it's just a wish list of what he would want to do if someone were to
take him seriously.

== 6 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 6:02 pm
From: BTR1701

In article <kAhKi.1173$hI7.425@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>,
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote:

> "BTR1701" <btr1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:btr1702-5A20C5.19032425092007@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <4XfKi.2184$6K4.705@trnddc06>,
> > "Bill Walker" <bill.walker2@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> >> Whups.. <evil grin> Those elected representatives that
> >> you helped elect don't quite see it that way, do they?
> >
> > First, I didn't help elect the ones who don't see it that way.
>
> It's such a delight to see you right-wingers deny your past this way.

Wow. So you know when and for whom I voted? Interesting...

Just how do you come by that information?

== 7 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 6:02 pm
From: BTR1701

In article <1190762280.976029.4420@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com>,
sauteedshrimp@yahoo.com wrote:

> On Sep 25, 7:03 pm, BTR1701 <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > In article <4XfKi.2184$6K4.705@trnddc06>,
> > "Bill Walker" <bill.walk...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > "BTR1701" <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> > >news:btr1702-901E0E.14373325092007@news.giganews.com...
> > > > In article <VhcKi.3758$Wo4.906@trnddc03>,
> > > > "Bill Walker" <bill.walk...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> > > >> "BobR" <re...@r-a-reed-assoc.com> wrote in message
> > > >>news:1190729022.607307.269170@n39g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
> > > >> > On Sep 25, 8:03 am, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> > > >> >> "BTR1701" <btr1...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> >
> > > >> >>news:btr1702-254081.18463124092007@news.giganews.com...
> >
> > > >> >> > American Patriot <SincereQuestio...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> >> Tancredo has the same chance as a snowball does in hell......
> >
> > > >> >> > Doesn't mean he's wrong.
> >
> > > >> >> Yes it does.
> > > >> >> In order to do the job, ideals are not enough.
> > > >> >> You have to have an implementation plan.
> >
> > > >> >> Tancredo's implementation plan doesn't exist.
> > > >> >> He's just a got a lot of slogans that sound good... in theory.
> >
> > > >> > Sounds just like the entire DEMOCRATIC PARTY and all of its
> > > >> > leadership.
> >
> > > >> Have you sent your check to cover your share of all this
> > > >> enforcement and deportation expense.. Or, does everyone
> > > >> else have to cover your portion of those costs?
> >
> > > > They can just take the money to pay for border enforcement
> > > > (which is a proper function of the federal government) from
> > > > all the social welfare programs (which, according to the
> > > > Constitution, are not a proper function of the federal
> > > > government) and/or end that folly in Iraq and use the billion
> > > > dollars a day that's costing to fund it. If they did either
> > > > of those things, there'd be plenty of money with some left
> > > > over.
> >
> > > Whups.. <evil grin> Those elected representatives that
> > > you helped elect don't quite see it that way, do they?
> >
> > First, I didn't help elect the ones who don't see it that way.
> >
> > The real failure here lies with the judiciary, which should long ago
> > have put the brakes on unconstitutional federal spending. Instead,
> > during the New Deal, they enabled it by essentially declaring that
> > everything under the sun affects interstate commerce, thereby giving
> > Congress virtually unlimited jurisdiction.
> >
> > Notice how the politicians always focus on things like abortion during
> > Supreme Court confirmation hearings but they never, ever, ever ask about
> > how the candidate feels about the constitutional limits of Congressional
> > power. It's like Voldemort. It's that which shall not be spoken.
>
> Enjoy the Republican party being out of power for at least the next 12
> years BTR. Blame it on GWBush.

Republican, Democrats, just two sides of the same tarnished coin.

== 8 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 6:03 pm
From: BTR1701

In article <wZfKi.2188$6K4.1343@trnddc06>,
"Bill Walker" <bill.walker2@verizon.net> wrote:

> Get rid of George Bush and that crew of corruption that
> he's surrounded himself with, and most of all
> these problems will take care of themselves..

Talk about naive...

== 9 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 6:11 pm
From: BTR1701

In article <jAhKi.1172$hI7.149@newssvr17.news.prodigy.net>,
"Sanders Kaufman" <bucky@kaufman.net> wrote:

> "BTR1701" <btr1702@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:btr1702-901E0E.14373325092007@news.giganews.com...
>
> > They can just take the money to pay for border enforcement (which is a
> > proper function of the federal government) from all the social welfare
> > programs (which, according to the Constitution, are not a proper
> > function of the federal government)
>
> You keep getting that wrong.

How so? Quote me the Article and Section of the Constitution that
authorizes 90% of what Congress regulates and funds.

> Fortunately, in the 200 years since, the legislature
> has never agreed with you Johnny Rebs.

Of course not. They're in the midst of a half-century long
unconstitutional power-grab. Why would they suddenly agree with me? Of
course you're a little off on your timeline. Two hundred years ago, the
Congress actually followed the Constitution. It's only been in the 1900s
that they decided to ignore it every time it becomes inconvenient. It
always amuses me how the same folks who have a stroke over Bush's
expansion of Executive power and scream for his impeachment because he's
not following the Constitution have no problem at all with the
Legislative branch doing the same damn thing.

I also find it amusing that in addition to magically knowing when and
for whom I vote, you've now declared me to be a secessionist.

If your psychic powers were at all accurate, you might be able to make
some money with them. Oh wait...

> So you'll just have to submit to our authority.

No, we can always get rid of you. You know, at the voting booth. Oh, but
you already know who I'm gonna vote for, I forgot.

== 10 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 7:11 pm
From: BobR

On Sep 25, 6:33 pm, "Sanders Kaufman" <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> "BobR" <re...@r-a-reed-assoc.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1190749403.033026.194000@w3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> > I get to see the effect of my contribution toward the EFFECT of all
> > the illegals every single month when I look at the charity write-offs
> > resulting from being forced to give free medical treatment to all the
> > illegals. I would much rather pay to get rid of them than continue to
> > pay to support them forever. Besides, the more of them we allow to
> > say...the more will come and demand the same.
>
> Fortunately, it's not up to you White Separatists to decide who we let in,
> and who we don't.

Nor is it up to you Black Wanna-be whiners.

== 11 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 6:50 pm
From: Pudentame

BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <1190668818.043974.232710@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
> American Patriot <SincereQuestioner@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sep 23, 2:05 pm, Ted <tedor...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 23, 5:25 am, greg3347 <theodor...@lycos.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sep 22, 5:52 pm, "johnny@." <johnny@.> wrote:
>>>>> By Jo Mannies
>>>>> POST-DISPATCHPOLITICAL CORRESPONDENT
>>>>> 09/22/2007
>>>>> frontenac - Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., asserted Friday that his
>>>>> anti-immigration message, which brought a crowd here to its feet, is
>>>>> also dragging down his Republican bid for the White House.
>
>> Tancredo has the same chance as a snowball does in hell......
>
> Doesn't mean he's wrong.

Yeah, there are other reasons for that.

== 12 of 12 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 6:51 pm
From: Pudentame

Bill Walker wrote:

> Have you sent your check to cover your share of all this enforcement
> and deportation expense.. Or, does everyone else have to cover your
> portion of those costs ?

Why should we have to pay your deportation expenses?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 5:47 pm
From: Hussam

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TOPIC: frugal windows 2000
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 5:50 pm
From: "J. Davidson"

Not illegal! Just cheap.
I had not heard of Mepis. Or distrowatch.com. Thanks for the post.
Jackie
Anthony Matonak <anthonym40@nothing.like.socal.rr.com> wrote in message
news:46f94b1e$0$32490$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> J. Davidson wrote:
> > In the name of frugality I am seeking a used W2000 to download. I am
using
> > W98 and since it is no longer supported I believe 2000 is a good option.
> > Where might I find one?
>
> Do you mean "Where can I download an illegal copy of Windows 2000
> for free?" or do you mean "Where can I buy an inexpensive copy of
> Windows 2000?"
>
> The first is a crime, the second is frugality.
>
> You might be better off to forget Microsoft entirely and get a
> good copy of Linux. I've found Mepis to be pretty easy to use,
> especially on funky older equipment.
> http://www.mepis.org/
>
> You could also look at any of these...
> http://distrowatch.com/
>
> Anthony

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 7:13 pm
From: Gordon

"J. Davidson" <fredjacqueline@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:LUaKi.4231$g7.2811@bignews7.bellsouth.net:

> In the name of frugality I am seeking a used W2000 to download. I am
> using W98 and since it is no longer supported I believe 2000 is a good
> option. Where might I find one?
> Jackie
>
>

Buy a computer from craig's list that has it already loaded.

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 7:45 pm
From: The Real Bev

Gordon wrote:

> "J. Davidson" <fredjacqueline@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> In the name of frugality I am seeking a used W2000 to download. I am
>> using W98 and since it is no longer supported I believe 2000 is a good
>> option. Where might I find one?
>
> Buy a computer from craig's list that has it already loaded.

I bought a used computer with win2K on it. I liked the OS, but it took 5
minutes to load. I killed deverything I could but it still took forever.
You NEED a disk so you can do your own installation if the machine you buy
is badly configured.

Now, a moral question: Since M$ no longer sells Win2K, are you actually
engaging in an immoral act by using or duplicating a friend's copy? I see
no reason to change to XP (is that right?) or Vista, which I regard as
downgrades unnecessary to run the few windows applications I need.

--
Cheers,
Bev
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Rats cry when they hear about my life." -- Dilbert

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 7:54 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <LUaKi.4231$g7.2811@bignews7.bellsouth.net>,
J. Davidson <fredjacqueline@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>In the name of frugality I am seeking a used W2000 to download. I am using
>W98 and since it is no longer supported I believe 2000 is a good option.
>Where might I find one?

You can't legally download it from anywhere; you'd need to buy a package,
either OEM or retail that's NOS or uninstalled and no longer used.

If you have any local computer swap meets, check there, or try online swap
sites. If you try to buy on eBay, expect to pay in the $100 to $125 range
for Windows 2000 Pro--about twice what I think it's worth.

Gary

--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net

http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

Yoko Onos' former driver tried to extort $2M from her, threating to
"release embarassing recordings...". What, he has a copy of her album?

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TOPIC: Consumers Reports VS. Consumers Digest
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 6:11 pm
From: "Don K"

"Don Klipstein" <don@manx.misty.com> wrote in message
news:slrnffh1cc.ht0.don@manx.misty.com...
> In article <mMWdnfvkO7Rq62XbnZ2dnUVZ_vmlnZ2d@comcast.com>, Don K wrote:
>>There's some interesting history to Consumer Reports. It's published by
>>Consumers Union, which was formed in the '30's by disgruntled employees
>>from Consumer Research who wanted to form a union, and ended up
>>putting out their own competing consumer magazine. There was a lot
>>of bad blood between the rival groups. At one point, Consumers
>>Union was listed as a subversive organization by the House of UnAmerican
>>Activities Committee.
>
> Can anyone here say McCarthyism? (Although McCarthy was in the Senate
> and not the House of Representatives - but that House committee was well
> known for "McCarthyism".)

Just to clarify, I wasn't trying to smear CU. I just think it has an interesting
history. Also no expanded meaning to the word "interesting" is intended.

Don

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 6:51 pm
From: Bernardo Gui

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:00:23 -0500, Logan Shaw
<lshaw-usenet@austin.rr.com> wrote:

>The other thing about them is not necessarily a flaw with them, but it is
>something to be aware of, IMHO. And that is this: when they review a
>product, they have some things in mind that they value, and these things do
>not always line up with what everyone else values.
>
> - Logan

I don't think that is a flaw at all. Yes, they do sometimes value
things that I don't value, but consumers come in all flavors and we
don't all want the same thing. CR breaks down their reviews into
categories so that you can pick and choose which ones are important to
you and then ignore the rest.

If you don't share their particular values on a particular product,
then ignore their 'quick picks' and look at the details. They still
provide excellent information to help make an educated choice.

Consumers Digest's primary value doesn't even appear until the toilet
paper runs out...

Bernardo

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TOPIC: Iraq War... Not Frugal
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 7:50 pm
From: Dennis

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:00:25 -0700, "Bill" <bill190nospam@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>"A Veteran" wrote in message
>> The War in Iraq has cost about $453,000,000,000 (four hundred and
>> fifty-three billion dollars) to date.
>>
>
>The majority of people in America agree we should leave and this is what the
>majority of the people in Iraq also want.
>
>Also - Everyone I talk to feels we should spend our tax dollars on America
>and not on foreign countries. (Stop sending billions to other countries.)
>
>Unfortunately the people in Washington don't care what the people think. I
>guess we don't give them any money so we are low on the totem pole....

What I don't get is, it's coming up on a year since the new wave of
politicians swept congress on the platform of ending the war, but
nothing has changed. They are still writing the administration blank
checks. What's the deal?

Dennis (evil)
--
What government gives, it must first take away.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 7:56 pm
From: gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston)

In article <u3ijf3h65sgb4k6in6l08nm78b050hi5n7@4ax.com>,
Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:00:25 -0700, "Bill" <bill190nospam@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
[ ... ]

>>Unfortunately the people in Washington don't care what the people think. I
>>guess we don't give them any money so we are low on the totem pole....

>What I don't get is, it's coming up on a year since the new wave of
>politicians swept congress on the platform of ending the war, but
>nothing has changed. They are still writing the administration blank
>checks. What's the deal?

That the difference between the two main parties is measured in the small
fractions of a percent.

Gary

--
Gary Heston gheston@hiwaay.net

http://www.thebreastcancersite.com/

Yoko Onos' former driver tried to extort $2M from her, threating to
"release embarassing recordings...". What, he has a copy of her album?

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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 8:03 pm
From: "AllEmailDeletedImmediately"

> THE MOST FUNCTIONAL ENGLISH WORD ...
>
> Well, it's shit ... that's right, shit!
> Shit may just be the most functional word in the English language.
>
> You can smoke shit, buy shit, sell shit, lose shit, find shit, forget
> shit, and tell others to eat shit.
>
> Some people know their shit, while others can't tell the difference
> between shit and shineola.
>
> There are lucky shits, dumb shits, and crazy shits. There is bull shit,
> horse shit, and chicken shit.
>
> You can throw shit, sling shit, catch shit, shoot the shit, or duck when
> the shit hits the fan.
>
> You can give a shit or serve shit on a shingle.
>
> You can find yourself in deep shit or be happier than a pig in shit.
>
> Some days are colder than shit, some days are hotter than shit, and some
> days are just plain shitty.
>
> Some music sounds like shit, things can look like shit, and there are
> times when you feel like shit.
>
> You can have too much shit, not enough shit, the right shit, the wrong
> shit or a lot of weird shit.
>
> You can carry shit, have a mountain of shit, or find yourself up shit
> creek without a paddle.
>
> Sometimes everything you touch turns to shit and other times you fall in a
> bucket of shit and come out smelling like a rose.
>
> When you stop to consider all the facts, it's the basic building block of
> the English language.
>
> And remember, once you know your shit, you don't need to know anything
> else!!

> Well, Shit, it's time for me to go. Just wanted you to know that I do give
> a shit and hope you had a nice day, without a bunch of shit. But, if you
> happened to catch a load of shit from some shit-head...........
>
> Well, Shit Happens!!!

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TOPIC: Reversed Car Payments
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.consumers.frugal-living/browse_thread/thread/7d124dc89b540476?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 8:16 pm
From: Zuke

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, javawizard wrote:

> If at all possible, reverse your car payments. Put $300 per month in a
> savings account until you need to buy a new car. Then pay cash.

If you are in the 5% of Americans that can do that.

Don't buy a car at all. That would really be frugal.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Tues, Sep 25 2007 8:21 pm
From: George Grapman

Zuke wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, javawizard wrote:
>
>> If at all possible, reverse your car payments. Put $300 per month in a
>> savings account until you need to buy a new car. Then pay cash.
>
> If you are in the 5% of Americans that can do that.
>
> Don't buy a car at all. That would really be frugal.
>

Not that easy is public transit is no convenient or if you need a car
for work.

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