Saturday, May 30, 2015

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"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>: May 29 09:49PM -0700

> luxuries as well - such as a boat.
 
> When are Americans going to learn to put long-term luxuries over
> short-term luxuries, at the very least?
 
I did that decades ago.
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Friday, May 29, 2015

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Bruce Esquibel <bje@ripco.com>: May 29 09:34PM

> provider. Additionally I considered solar panels and geothermal nrg.
 
> Any helpful input appreciated,
> Matt
 
If you are in Chicago, forget solar panels, those things need full daylight
to do anything useful and on average, Chicago only gets about 150 of those
kind of days.
 
With the renewable energy company, either switch to them to go green or stay
with the public/city provider to save money. You can't get both. All those
alternate power companies hide something after you are off the initial
billing plan so in 6 or 12 months, you are going to regret switching.
 
Either move to the southwest to enjoy 300+ days a year of sunshine or to
somehwere in the northwest where the power companies actually compete with
each other to provide service.
 
Chicago isn't a place for either of those options. No clue on geothermal
except it seems expensive as all fuck and needs like 20-25 years to break
even on the install, if even that short of time.
 
-bruce
bje@ripco.com
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Thursday, May 28, 2015

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lenona321@yahoo.com: May 28 09:44AM -0700

http://www.seattlepi.com/comics-and-games/fun/Baby_Blues/2015-05-28/
 
SPOILER
 
Seems to me that even if you DON'T have kids to save money for, you shouldn't
have to feel out of the loop at your workplace just because you don't believe
in short-term luxuries like restaurant meals - or deli meals, with their
disposable containers that are simply not "good" for the environment. Aside
from saving money for a rainy day and/or one's old age, one also might want
to save money for long-term luxuries as well - such as a boat.
 
When are Americans going to learn to put long-term luxuries over short-term
luxuries, at the very least?
 
Lenona.
Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com>: May 28 06:48PM


>When are Americans going to learn to put long-term luxuries over short-term
>luxuries, at the very least?
 
>Lenona.
 
LOL, I clicked on this as I sit at my desk, munching on my sandwich,
looking at the photo of my son and daughter who are away at college.
Dennis (evil)
--
I'm behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, riding the wave,
dodging the bullet and pushing the envelope. -George Carlin
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Wednesday, May 27, 2015

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lenona321@yahoo.com: May 27 12:37PM -0700

http://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/research/drought-hacking-how-to-wash-your-car-with-a-single-cup-of-water/ss-BBkhzqR
 
There are seven slides and a link to four alternative methods at the end.
 
 
Lenona.
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Tuesday, May 26, 2015

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mwm314 <mwmiller314@gmail.com>: May 26 07:29AM -0700

Has anyone had a good/rewarding experience with making green changes to their home to save $? I was thinking of changing to the renewable nrg provider. Additionally I considered solar panels and geothermal nrg.
 
Any helpful input appreciated,
Matt
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Thursday, May 21, 2015

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The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 21 04:52PM -0700

On 05/20/2015 11:29 AM, Bob F wrote:
> fingers clean. I guess it would be more valuable around cactus. I've been
> thinking about some kind of extension tool to pull little weeds and grass in my
> veggie gardens so I dont have to kneel so much.
 
If the dirt is soft enough, try a length of 2" steel pipe and a mallet
or hammer. Put the pipe over the weed, hammer it in, pull it up and go
on to the next one. When the pipe is full push all the weeds out with a
broom handle.
 
 
--
Cheers, Bev
------------------------------------------------------
Q: How many lawyers does it take to grease a combine?
A: One, if you feed him in real slow.
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Wednesday, May 20, 2015

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"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>: May 20 11:29AM -0700

The Real Bev wrote:
> several sizes, including the biggest one I could find on line
> (cheaply made, but good enough) to pull the weeds out of my cactus
> plants. I don't see how people can survive without hemostats!
 
It never entered my mind to use a hemostat for that. I guess it does keep your
fingers clean. I guess it would be more valuable around cactus. I've been
thinking about some kind of extension tool to pull little weeds and grass in my
veggie gardens so I dont have to kneel so much.
Vandy Terre <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com>: May 20 08:35PM -0400

On Tue, 19 May 2015 00:16:10 +0000 (UTC), Dennis
>find their own bugs. Haven't seen a grasshopper around the yard for
>years. Wish they ate slugs, though.
 
>Dennis (evil)
 
You need some hungry ducks.
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Tuesday, May 19, 2015

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The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 18 09:20PM -0700

On 05/18/2015 05:16 PM, Dennis wrote:
 
> We just skip the middle man and let our chickens wander around and
> find their own bugs. Haven't seen a grasshopper around the yard for
> years. Wish they ate slugs, though.
 
Don't ducks eat slugs?
 
I went out last night with a flashlight in search of the worms that eat
my petunias. I pulled the whole flower off and stepped on the little
buggers, but tonight I took a hemostat :-) I wonder how long it takes
for the systemic fertilizer/bugkiller pellets to dissolve and enter the
plant...
 
The gardeners plant hundreds of petunia plants across the street. Why
don't the little bastards attack THEM?
 
--
Cheers, Bev
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Todd Flanders' hobbies include being quiet on long rides,
clapping to songs and diabetes.
"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com>: May 19 06:04AM -0700

The Real Bev wrote:
> little buggers, but tonight I took a hemostat :-) I wonder how long
> it takes for the systemic fertilizer/bugkiller pellets to dissolve
> and enter the plant...
 
Such treatments of flowering plants will not be good for the bees in your area.
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>: May 19 03:47PM -0400

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 19 04:04PM -0700

On 05/19/2015 06:04 AM, Bob F wrote:
>> it takes for the systemic fertilizer/bugkiller pellets to dissolve
>> and enter the plant...
 
> Such treatments of flowering plants will not be good for the bees in your area.
 
I have two petunias and 5 chrysanthemums, all in pots. I'm pretty sure
my impact will be minimal.
 
 
--
Cheers, Bev
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag them down to your level.
It's cheaper." -- Quentin Crisp 1908 - 1999
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 19 04:08PM -0700

On 05/19/2015 12:47 PM, Michael Black wrote:
 
>> The gardeners plant hundreds of petunia plants across the street. Why don't
>> the little bastards attack THEM?
 
> Because they are all over at your place, eating your tastier flowers?
 
The ones across the street (mall parking lot) are bigger, nicer, and
lots more than I have. I talked to the gardener this morning, who was
putting out snail pellets for the slugs that were eating THEIR petunias.
Slugs are easy, it's the little caterpillars that I need to eliminate.
 
Much easier to grab the little nasties with a hemostat. I have several
sizes, including the biggest one I could find on line (cheaply made, but
good enough) to pull the weeds out of my cactus plants. I don't see how
people can survive without hemostats!
 
--
Cheers, Bev
--------------------------------------------------------------
"Never keep up with the Joneses. Drag them down to your level.
It's cheaper." -- Quentin Crisp 1908 - 1999
Derald <derald@invalid.net>: May 19 03:12PM -0400


>but tonight I took a hemostat :-)
Do you mean like a clip, or what?
--
D
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Monday, May 18, 2015

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Dennis <dgw80@hotmail.com>: May 19 12:16AM

On Tue, 12 May 2015 15:39:26 -0700, Shoe-Chucker 2
 
>I search the garden for bugs. Dust buster them up and let the chickens
>and fish look thru them. Free food. protein.
 
We just skip the middle man and let our chickens wander around and
find their own bugs. Haven't seen a grasshopper around the yard for
years. Wish they ate slugs, though.
 
Dennis (evil)
--
"There is a fine line between participation and mockery" - Wally
RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com>: May 18 07:32AM +0100

On 17/05/2015 16:30, BigDog811 wrote:
 
> Refurbs are fine, so long as the refurbishment is done by the original manufacturer or at one of their authorized repair facilities, and you buy from an authorized dealer. I'm typing this on a refurbished HP ProBook laptop I bought over two years ago. It's perfectly fine and I have no reason to believe it won't stay in service 'til I need or want something different. I saved nearly $200 on the purchase and it came with nearly the same warranty, and exactly the same return privileges as the brand new one sitting on the shelf next to it. Both of which have long ago expired.
 
> There are people who actually prefer refurbs to new because they think they're more reliable. If the refurb is done properly the whole system has been thoroughly tested and whatever problem that caused the original owner to return it has been corrected. Many times a refurb doesn't even need repaired. It was simply been returned because the original owner didn't like it for some reason. Can't be sold as new, but if it's a reliable dealer, has still been thoroughly tested before going on the sales floor.
 
> Don't confuse refurbished with rebuilt. Rebuilts are usually a conglomeration parts that may or may not be compatible, or even new, when it was put together. It may be perfectly fine, but you're taking your chances unless the seller/rebuilder is competent and will stand behind it. "As is" ain't good when it comes to computers.
 
Some on the UK Mac newsgroup speak fondly of refurbished Macs via the
Apple store for much the reasons you state.
 
I get the education discount which doesn't apply to refurbished Macs,
but if I didn't get that, it's certainly something I'd look at.
 
--
Cheers, Rob
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Sunday, May 17, 2015

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BigDog811 <bigdog811@gmail.com>: May 17 08:30AM -0700

On Saturday, May 16, 2015 at 1:34:59 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
 
> --
> You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
> when something closes the door from the inside.
 
Refurbs are fine, so long as the refurbishment is done by the original manufacturer or at one of their authorized repair facilities, and you buy from an authorized dealer. I'm typing this on a refurbished HP ProBook laptop I bought over two years ago. It's perfectly fine and I have no reason to believe it won't stay in service 'til I need or want something different. I saved nearly $200 on the purchase and it came with nearly the same warranty, and exactly the same return privileges as the brand new one sitting on the shelf next to it. Both of which have long ago expired.
 
There are people who actually prefer refurbs to new because they think they're more reliable. If the refurb is done properly the whole system has been thoroughly tested and whatever problem that caused the original owner to return it has been corrected. Many times a refurb doesn't even need repaired. It was simply been returned because the original owner didn't like it for some reason. Can't be sold as new, but if it's a reliable dealer, has still been thoroughly tested before going on the sales floor.
 
Don't confuse refurbished with rebuilt. Rebuilts are usually a conglomeration parts that may or may not be compatible, or even new, when it was put together. It may be perfectly fine, but you're taking your chances unless the seller/rebuilder is competent and will stand behind it. "As is" ain't good when it comes to computers.
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Saturday, May 16, 2015

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KenK <invalid@invalid.com>: May 16 05:34PM

Anyone have any experience with refurbished computers? A very quick Google
shows prices seem quite low. Evidently they include operating systems?
 
Reliable dealers?
 
TIA
 
 
 
--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.
"RayP" <rpalix99@hotmail.com>: May 16 03:12PM -0400

In news:XnsA49C6BA57AABAinvalidcom@130.133.4.11,
> Google shows prices seem quite low. Evidently they include operating
> systems?
 
> Reliable dealers?
 
A friend of mine recently bought a refurbished laptop, and I later bought
two refurbished desktop computers, from a company called PC Rebuilders and
Recyclers ( http://pcrr.com ).
 
He got his through a special program that his cable company has for low
income families with kids in school who need Internet access and a low-cost
computer.
 
The two refurbished desktop computers that I bought through PCRR were on
behalf of a tax exempt nonprofit program that I am associated with that
needed them.
 
PCRR also sells directly to the public without the special nonprofit
discounts, and their regular to-the-public prices are also good. All three
computers (my friend's and the two for the nonprofit) work well and are
exactly as they were advertised to be.
 
Here's a direct link to their pricing:
http://store.pcrr.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=39
Bert <bert@iphouse.com>: May 16 08:58PM

In news:XnsA49C6BA57AABAinvalidcom@130.133.4.11 KenK
> Google shows prices seem quite low. Evidently they include operating
> systems?
 
> Reliable dealers?
 
Bought a refurbed Dell Optiplex 3010, which came with Windows 7 Pro SP1
64-bit pre-installed, with a recovery CD.
 
Got it from NewEgg. They were acting as an agent for "Blair Technology
Group" but it included a warrany from NewEgg, and additional coverage
from the "Google Trusted Stores program." Cost $240, with free shipping.
 
It's been sitting in the basement running about 16 hours a day for about
a year and a half, controlling my ham radio gear without incident.

--
bert@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
Bert <bert@iphouse.com>: May 16 09:04PM

In news:XnsA49CA2A074DDCVeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1 Bert <bert@iphouse.com>
wrote:
 
> Bought a refurbed Dell Optiplex 3010
 
No, it was a refurbed Dell Optiplex 960. The 3010 is the machine I'm using
right now :-)
 
--
bert@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
M.L. <me@privacy.invalid>: May 16 04:58PM -0500

>exactly as they were advertised to be.
 
>Here's a direct link to their pricing:
>http://store.pcrr.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=39
 
Those prices seems awfully high for such underpowered laptops. I got a
far better equipped new laptop for a much lower price at Walmart.
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Friday, May 15, 2015

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Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>: May 14 10:50PM -0400

The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 14 08:40PM -0700

On 05/14/2015 07:50 PM, Michael Black wrote:
> chickens to the bugs) then the chicken waste would roll into the pond,
> where the fish would process the waste and turn into protein. Or
> something like that.
 
And the dirty fishwater would nourish the food plants plants that the
bugs grew on. It's the cycle of life!
 
--
Cheers,
Bev
------------------------------------------------------
"Give me all your brains or I'll blow your money out!"
--Anonymous Unsuccessful Bank Robber
hchickpea@hotmail.com: May 15 12:19AM -0500

>> something like that.
 
>And the dirty fishwater would nourish the food plants plants that the
>bugs grew on. It's the cycle of life!
 
 
Now I feel all Kumbiaya...
 
Look little lion king. Someday you will be poop and then the next generation
you will be looking out over fields of poop. Doesn't it make you feel majestic?
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>: May 14 11:48PM -0700


> Now I feel all Kumbiaya...
 
> Look little lion king. Someday you will be poop and then the next generation
> you will be looking out over fields of poop. Doesn't it make you feel majestic?
 
Gee, makes me sorry I haven't seen it. I love the 'Lion Sleeps Tonight'
song, but that's from the 1950s.
 
You seem to have mistaken me for a mortal, though.
 
--
Cheers, Bev
===============================================
I didn't break it! It was doing that before I broke it... er...
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Thursday, May 14, 2015

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Derald <derald@invalid.net>: May 13 11:50PM -0400


>I search the garden for bugs. Dust buster them up and let the chickens
>and fish look thru them. Free food. protein.
How do they get the machine open?
Derald <derald@invalid.net>: May 14 09:30PM -0400


>"Joe, you like the hard ones. Her is one for you."
 
>Even more so, I have visions of Elmer Fudd going through a garden at night going
>"Shhh, I'm hunting fiwerfwies!"
 
"It could happen."
--
D
Beaver_Fever@live.com: May 14 12:49PM -0700

> modify the energy savings claim on our Aprilaire humidifier web site." :-)
 
> Nick
 
> http://lennox.com/pdfs/brochures/Lennox%20WB2-WP2%20Humidifiers.pdf
 
 
 
Made You Look, Joann
hchickpea@hotmail.com: May 14 02:29PM -0500

>and have two unused "units" yet, although the package long ago
>disintegrated. Major "con": Ear Stopples leave slightly waxy feeling
>residue behind.
 
 
Mr. Miagi say: "Wax on, wax off. Wax on, wax off."
 
Soon you ears will be polished to a nice shine.
Beaver_Fever@live.com: May 14 12:47PM -0700

> >residue behind.
 
> Mr. Miagi say: "Wax on, wax off. Wax on, wax off."
 
> Soon you ears will be polished to a nice shine.
 
I wrap my earplugs in a (clean) sock and throw them in any other kind but Staber washing machine. Sometimes I will pull out earplugs at a show and they will look all grody on the end and I will hope no one is looking at them when I put them in.
hchickpea@hotmail.com: May 14 02:33PM -0500


>>I search the garden for bugs. Dust buster them up and let the chickens
>>and fish look thru them. Free food. protein.
> How do they get the machine open?
 
 
I'm trying to envision a fish "looking through" a selection of bugs.
 
"Oh, that one is a juicy one!"
 
"Nah, I'll pass on that one, the creme center is always off."
 
"Joe, you like the hard ones. Her is one for you."
 
 
Even more so, I have visions of Elmer Fudd going through a garden at night going
"Shhh, I'm hunting fiwerfwies!"
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Wednesday, May 13, 2015

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Vandy Terre <vandy@tanglewood-destiny.com>: May 13 06:13PM -0400

On Tue, 12 May 2015 15:39:26 -0700, Shoe-Chucker 2
 
>I search the garden for bugs. Dust buster them up and let the chickens
>and fish look thru them. Free food. protein.
 
Why not just hang a solar powered bug light over
the fish or chicken? Less work for you once set
up and very entertaining to watch it work.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: May 12 11:52PM -0700

On Tuesday, May 12, 2015 at 5:41:48 PM UTC-5, Shoe-Chucker 2 wrote:
 
> they are not OSHA approved if they have been washed.
 
Who said anything about washing them? Was washing them ever mentioned in the original discussion?
 
Glad you could join the conversation almost two months after it was originally posted........
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Tuesday, May 12, 2015

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Shoe-Chucker 2 <georgewk10@yahoo.com>: May 12 03:41PM -0700

In article <e35228c0-1007-4661-af39-2ce9c213a053@googlegroups.com>,
> > Thanks much!
 
> > Ken
 
> You're welcome!
 
they are not OSHA approved if they have been washed.
--
Karma ; what a concept!
Shoe-Chucker 2 <georgewk10@yahoo.com>: May 12 03:39PM -0700

I search the garden for bugs. Dust buster them up and let the chickens
and fish look thru them. Free food. protein.
--
Karma ; what a concept!
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Sunday, May 10, 2015

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edelman@comcast.net: May 10 04:57AM -0700

We just threw out the Staber washer I purchased over twelve years ago.
We had given it to my elderly mother in law to wash a light half load once a week.
The only reason it was kept for so long is she became incapable of using it due to her advancing age and it remained idle for years, a reminder of a bad decision.
This machine was horrible. I expected so much and got so little.
She passed away last month and we dumped the machine.
It never drained completely from day one and after a short period of use a spring broke on the door.
How can you build a washing machine in which the drain pipe must be below the level of the washer's drain pump.
I guess that works if your drain consists of a hole in the floor of your double wide.
You would have to disassemble a significant portion of the machine to replace the spring and a replacement pump would not solve the design flaw.
I'm so disappointed I had hoped that I would be able to be proud and satisfied about buying something made in America.
This machine proved to be no better than the cheapened pieces of crap from Whirlpool & GE.
It amazes me that you can design a machine that does not drain and a wear item (spring hinge) that cannot be replaced easily.
The Bendix Corporation introduced the first automatic washing machine in 1937, 70 years later and you can't seem to figure it out.
My LG washer and dryer have been working properly for 12 years.
When they fail I will buy a Speed Queen not a Staber.
Dumping the machine reminded me of the money I wasted and pissed me off all over again.
ItsJoan NotJoann <itsjoannotjoann@webtv.net>: May 10 03:08PM -0700


> We just threw out the Staber washer I purchased over twelve years ago.
 
Quoted garbage deleted.
 
Ding-a-ling poster is replying to a 13 year old thread, glad to see he has awoken from his long coma to give us this wonderful information.
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-NOTO NAZIPEDERASTA PAOLO BARRAI (28.06.1965) DI CRIMINALISSIME WMO E BSI ITALIA SRL DI VIA SOCRATE 26 A MILANO, CHE PER DIFENDERE IL SUO MANDANTE FASCIOCAMORRISTA, STRAGISTA E NOTO PEDOFILO COME LUI, SILVIO BERLUSCONI ( NOTARE BENE, PLEASE, CHE STO NAZIPEDERASTA DI FIAMMA TRICOLORE, FORZA NUOVA, CASA POUND E LL - LEGA LADRONA, PAOLO BARRAI, E' IN POSSESSO DA ANNI DELLA REPELLENTE, VOMITEVOLISSIMA TESSERA DI ORGOGLIO PEDOFILO:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association ) HA SPESSO DETTO E SCRITTO: " CHE LA PEDOFILIA NON E' UN REATO, IN QUANTO NEL TERZO MONDO, TANTE BAMBINE DI 10, 11, 12 ANNI, RIMANGONO IN CINTA"! PER AGGIUNGERE IN PRIVATO E SPESSISSIMO, FRASI DA FAR MEGA SUPER STRA ACCAPONARE LA PELLE, OSSIA, CHE E' FIERO DI AVER SODOMIZZATO I SUOI FIGLI RICCARDO BARRAI E COSTANZA BARRAI FIN DALLA NASCITA! MOSTRANDO ANCHE DELLE FOTO PEDOPORNOMOSESSUALI, IN CUI "ATTORE" ERA LO STESSO NAZIPEDERASTA PAOLO BARRAI! FOTO DI FILM PER PEDERASTA ( COME PAOLO BARRAI E SUO PAPPONE SILVIO BERLUSCONI) DEGLI ANNI 2000, 2001, 2002 (OSSIA, APPENA DOPO CHE LO STESSO AVANZO DI GALERA PAOLO BARRAI VENNE CACCIATO MALISSIMAMENTE DA CITIBANK PER CRIMINI EFFERATI CHE LO STESSO, LI, COMMETTEVA, PER POI VENIR CONDANNATO AL CARCERE SU DENUNCIA DI CITIBANK: COSA DI CUI PRESTO SCRIVEREMO) IN CUI '" LA STAR" E' PROPRIO DETTO PERVERTITISSIMO VERME PAOLO BARRAI. RAFFIGURATO A FARE FILM PORNOMOSESSUALI CON RAGAZZINI DI 12-14-16 ANNI! O, SCIOCCANTISSIMAMENTE, MENTRE FA SESSO ORALE E NON SOLO, CON CAVALLI ( FOTO CHE ERANO IN INTERNET E CHE, APPENA IL TUTTO INIZIO' A VIENIRE A GALLA, LO STESSO PAZZO DEPRAVATO PAOLO BARRAI, PER POTER PIU' FACILMENTE "SPENNARE POLLI IN RETE" VIA SUE TRUFFE FINANAZIARIO-MEDIATICHE, HA FATTO CANCELLARE.... GOOGLE BOUT IT: "CCC: CIUCCIA CA--I DI CAVALLO PAOLO BARRAI" E NE LEGGERETE A PROPOSITO)! QUI MI FERMO O LA MIA BILE O PANCREAS O FEGATO O STOMACO O CUORE O TUTTO QUESTO INSIEME, FAN CRACK, E MI MANDAN ALL' ALTRO MONDO SUBITO!
TORNIAMO SU TERRENI PIU' "NORMALI", PLEASE, PER QUANTO LE COSE ESTREMAMENTE ORRIDE APPENA DESCRITTE, SONO SUPER STRA VERE!!!

-NAZINDRANGHETISTA, LADRO, TRUFFATORE, SPENNA POLLI IN RETE A RAFFICA, PERICOLOSISSIMO AZZERARISPARMI, MEGA LAVA SOLDI DI COSA NOSTRA, CAMORRA, NDRANGHETA, O SOLDI POLITI-C-RIMINALISSIMI, ESATTAMENTE FRUTTI DI MEGA MAZZETTE O RUBERIE DI LL LEGA LADRONA ED EX PDL, POPOLO DI LADRONI: PLURI PREGIUDICATO, AVANZO DI GALERA PAOLO BARRAI NATO A MILANO IL 28.06.1965
https://it.linkedin.com/pub/dir/?first=PAOLO&last=BARRAI&search=Search
(RICICLANTE CASH CHE COLA ANCHE SANGUE DI MORTI AMMAZZATI; NON SOLO PER PRIMA CITATE MALAVITE ORGANIZZATE O AL CAPONE MISTI AD ADOLF HITLER DELLA POLITICA, COME SILVIO BERLUSCONI E MATTEO SALVINI; MA ANCHE PER VIA DI SUOI CAMERATA KILLER QUALI MASSIMO CARMINATI E GENNARO MOKBEL; COME, AI TEMPI, TANTO QUANTO, PER ALTRI SUOI CAMERATA DELINQUENTISSIMI QUALI WALTER LAVITOLA, ALESSANDRO PROTO, FRANCO FIORITO E FRANCESCO BELSITO; O PER PICCIOTTINCRAVATTATI QUALI IL PERICOLOSISSIMO MEGARICICLA SOLDI MAFIOSI: GIOVANNI RAIMONDI DI DI PIA PARTECIPAZIONI 20121 MILANO FORO BUONAPARTE 12; GIA' DI MALAVITOSA BANCA SAI, MALAVITOSA GIOVANNI RAIMONDI SIM E MALAVITOSO GIOVANNI RAIMONDI AGENTE DI CAMBIO; DA SEMPRE, QUEST'ULTIMO, FACENTE OGNI TIPO DI DELITTO FINANZIARIO, CON O PER, SUOI PAPPONI MA-F-ASCISTI ENNIO DORIS, MASSIMO DORIS, SILVIO BERLUSCONI, PAOLO LIGRESTI ED IGNAZIO LA RUSSA). COLLETTO ARCI FETIDO PAOLO BARRAI DI CRIMINALISSIMO WMOGROUP, CRIMINALISSIMA BSI ITALIA SRL DI VIA SOCRATE 26 MILANO E PRECIPITANTE BLOG MERCATO 'MERDATO' LIBERO ( TALMENTE PRECIPITANTE CHE DALLA VERGOGNA ESTREMA DI MOSTRARE CHE GLI VI SONO RIMASTI, AL MASSIMO, 3 LETTORIDIOTI AL GIORNO, HA LEVATO DALLO STESSO IL CONTATORE: IAMM E STRA IAMM BEEE). PRIMA DI CONTINUARE A DESCRIVERE QUESTO UGO FANTOZZI ( OSSIA SEMPRE PERDENTISSIMO) MISTO A RENATO VALLANZASCA ( OSSIA SEMPRE CRIMINALISSIMO), DELLA FINANZA, CHE E' IL COLLETTO LERCIO PAOLO BARRAI, VORREI, PER INIZIARE, SOTTOLINEARE COME MAI E POI MAI SI SIAN VISTI DEI CAGNACCI BRUCIA AVERI ALTRUI COME L'AVANZO DI GALERA PAOLO BARRAI STESSO, UNITO AL NOTO LADRO, TRUFFATORE, SEMPRE SBAGLIANTE IN BORSA, FEDERICO IZZI CONOSCIUTO A TUTTI COME 'ER ZIO ROMOLO DELLA CAMORRA'. UNA PROVA? ALTRO CHE UNA, VE NE SONO MILIARDI DI PROVE! IAMM BELL, IA! INIZIAMO SOLO CON 2 'PROVETTE' SU MILIONI DI MILIONI ( PRESTO CENTINAIA DI MIGLIAIA DI BLOGS CHE LE MOSTRERANNO TUTTE, LE CANNATE DISTRUGGI RISPARMI DI MIGLIAIA DI PERSONE, DI PAOLO BARRAI DI ESTREMISSIMAMENTE MALAVITOSA WMO)! IL 5.9.14 DICEVAN DI VENDERE, CHE IL DOW JONES A GIORNI SAREBBE CROLLATO SOTTO 15.000 DA 17200 CIRCA OVE ERA http://ilpunto-borsainvestimenti.blogspot.nl/2014/10/dow-jones-atteso-in-area-15000.html "INFATTI".... AAAH, SIAMO SCHIZZATI IN SU FINO AI MASSIMI DI TUTTI I TEMPI! QUASI 18.000! SIAM SCHIZZATI IN SU E TANTISSIMO! MILIARDESIMA, "ENNESISSIMA" LORO CANNATA!
DA SCHIATTARE DAL RIDERE! GUARDATE QUI, PLS, COSA, L'ESCREMENTO NAZISTA, LAVA SOLDI MAFIOSI, LADRO, TRUFFATORE FEDERICO IZZI (AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN: NOTO A TUTTI COME "ER ZIO ROMOLO DELLA CAMORRA" IN QUANTO CAMPA SOLO E SEMPRE DI RICICLAGGIO DI SOLDI ASSASSINI), RAGLIAVA IL 5.9.14:
http://ilpunto-borsainvestimenti.blogspot.fr/2014/09/zio-romolo-i-mercati-hanno-esagerato-ma.html
ESATTAMENTE DA QUELLA DATA, IL DOW JONES E' SCHIZZATO IN SU COME UN RAZZO
https://es.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=%5EDJI
GIUSTO... COSI'... PER MENZIONARNE UN ALTRA, UNA SU MILIONI DI MILIONI, LA PRIMA CHE MI VIENE IN MENTE... FACEVA VENDERE AZIONI AD INIZIO 1.2012 E TUTTO E' SALITO PER 3 MESI!
http://mercatoliberotraderpergioco.blogspot.fr/2012/01/ci-attende-un-gennaio-di-ribassi.html
FACEVA POI COMPRARE, OVVIAMENTE, AI MASSIMI, IN PIENA PRIMAVERA 2012, E SIAM CROLLATI DA 13270 A 12115!!! FRA L'ALTRO STO SCHIFOSO PEZZO DI ME.DA DI FEDERICO IZZI NOTO COME "ER ZIO ROMOLO DELLA CAMORRA", COME LO E' OGNI ESCREMENTO BERLUSCONICCHIO, E' UN TUTT'UNO CON MALAVITE DI TUTTO IL MERIDIONE DI FECCIA DITTATORIALE DI "RENZUSCONIA". E, TENTEVI DURO, DELLA BANDA DELLA MAGLIANA. OLTRE CHE CON PRIMA CITATI VERMI DEI GIRI DI MASSIMO CARMINATI E GENNARO MOKBEL! COME UN ESTRATTO DI RECENTE VINCENTISSIMO TESTO CHE GIRA PER LA RETE, STRA DIMOSTRA: "...BESTIA CHE MEGA TRUFFA VIA WEB E FA SEMPRE PERDERE TUTTI I RISPARMI DI TUTTI, PUZZONE CRIMINALE FEDERICO IZZI DI ROMA. NOTO COME ZIO ROMOLO! VICINISSIMO AD ENRICO NICOLETTI, NOTO MALAVITOSO BANCHIERE DELLA BANCA DELLA MAGLIANAhttp://www.agoravox.it/Arrestato-Enrico-Nicoletti-il.html , VICINISSIMO A TERRORISTI NAZISTI COME MASSIMO CARMINATI E GENNARO MOKBEL! VICINISSIMO AI CRUDELI ASSASSINI "CASALESI", VIA, NOTORIAMENTE, MEGA OMICIDA FAMIGLIA CAMORRISTA DEI BARDELLINO http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2011/12/10/affari-politici-camorra-formia-avamposto-laziale-casalesi/176674/ PRESSO FORMIA E LATINA ...."
....D'ALTRONDE....
STO VERMINOSO AVANZO DI GALERA IN QUANTO PIU' VOLTE ARRESTATO, PAOLO BARRAI DI CRIMINALISSIMA WMO, CRIMINALISSIMA BSI ITALIA SRL DI VIA SOCRATE 26 MILANO E CRIMINALISSIMO BLOG MERCATO "MERDATO" LIBERO.... QUANDO SCROCCAVA GRATIS IL GENIO BORSISTICO ED EROE CIVILE MICHELE NISTA ( DI CUI PRESTO SCRIVERO' NON POCO), E SOLO E SEMPRE GRAZIE A MICHELE, CI GUADAGNAVA PARECCHI SOLDI, SCRIVEVA LA MERA VERITA', OSSIA CHE MICHELE NISTA ERA (ED ANCORA E') IL NUMERO UNO AL MONDO IN FIUTO BORSISTICO, COME PURE POLITICO ED INVESTIGATIVO! ORA, INVECE, SICCOME NON LO RIESCE A SCROCCARE PIU', LO VUOLE MORTO! MAI VISTO UN BASTARDO, FALSONE, TRUFFATORE, SFACCIATO, SCAFATO LADRO E I ASSICURO, PURE MANDANTE DI OMICIDI, COME PRESTO PROVEREMO, COME PAOLO BARRAI DI MALAVITOSISSIMA WMO!
TORNIAMO A MICHELE, DI CUI ACCENNAVO. ECCO UNO SCRITTO CHE GIRA SU INTERNET, E CHE, ASSICURO, SCRIVE ASSOUTISSIME, E, TANTO QUANTO, PROVABILISSIME VERITA': "GENIO BORSISTICO ED EROE CIVILE MICHELE NISTA (michelenista@gmx.com). AZZECCA IN AZIONI E MATERIE PRIME, SEMPRE. SU TUTTO. OGNI GIORNO. IN OGNI ANGOLO DEL PIANETA TERRA. SIA A LIVELLO DI AZIONARIO, CHE DI MATERIE PRIME. GENIO IN INVESTIMENTI MOBILIARI, MA PURE UN EROE. STA DISTRUGGENDO IL MAFASCISTASSASSINO, PEDOFILO SILVIO BERLUSCONI E SALVANDO, COSI', L'ITALIA, CHE GIUSTAMENTE, CHIAMA, AL MOMENTO, DITTATURA FASCIONDRANGHETISTA DI BERLUSCONIA!!!
MAI VISTO UN ASSOLUTO GENIO COME MICHELE NISTA. AZZECCA IN AZIONI E MATERIE PRIME SEMPRE, SEMPRE, SEMPRE. E NON SOLO IN AZIONI A MATERIE PRIME, MA SU TUTTO. AZZECCA SU TUTTO, E ANCHE CON NOVE, DODICI MEDI DI ANTICIPO. LO DICE CARTA CHE CANTA, LO DICONO SUE EMAILS E POST. IL GRANDISSIMO GENIO E RE MIDA MICHELE NISTA, HA PRESO IL RIBASSO DEL DOW JONES DEL 2007 E 2008, IL RIALZO DEL MARZO 2009, IL MINIMO DEL DOW JONES A 9700, DEL LUGLIO 2010, IL RIALZO DI INIZIO AUTUNNO 2010, IL RIBASSO DEL MAGGIO 2011, E L'ESPLOSIVO RIALZO CHE CI HA PORTATO AI GIORNI NOSTRI. AZZECCA SU TUTTO E' SEMPRE, IL GENIO MICHELE NISTA. SU TUTTO E SEMPRE. MA COME FA??? MICHELE NISTA, UN GRANDISSIMO GENIO, IL PIU' GRANDE GENIO BORSISTICO, DA SECOLI IN QUA. LO DICONO TONNELLATE DI FATTI, LO DICE CARTA STAMPATA DA INTERNET, CHE CANTA COME UN USIGNOLO. MICHELE NISTA, SEI UN GRANDISSIMO GENIO"!
Ciao a tutti. Mi chiamo Gianni, sono di Rimini, e vivo tra la mia citta' natale e Stoccolma, essendo mia moglie svedese. Devo dire che ho grande voglia di esprimere la mia gioia di conoscere l'assolutissimo genio Michele Nista (michelenista@gmx.com), di cui son felicissimo e arricchitissimo cliente. Un genio senza se e senza ma. Genio e eroe, in quanto sta salvandoci anche dalla dittatura maf..ascista ed assassina di Silvio Berlusconi. Con una creativita', energia, coraggio, e specialmente, risultati vincentissimi, che non trovi da nessuna altra parte, e mai. Non sbaglia mai e stra mai, ovvero, azzecca sempre, facendo fare tantissimi soldi, a tutti, in previsioni su azioni e materie prime. Ma azzecca anche, qualsiasi previsione in politica, calcio. Qualunque altra cosa. Michele Nista e' una vera e propria success machine, tutti i giorni dell'anno. Michele Nista e' un grandissimo Re Mida, uno dei piu' grandi Re Mida di tutti i tempi, in azioni, materie prime e non solo. E questo da fine anni 80, non solo da ora. O da due, tre anni. E' molto boicottato, il genio Michele Nista, da un topo di fogna, gia' condannato al carcere in Italia, Brasile, e indagato in
Inghilterra, che e' il pervertito sessuale, nazista, minacciante morte, e quindi, assassino: Paolo Barrai di Mercato Libero.
Non mi credete su che verme sia l'assassino fallito Paolo Barrai che attacca sempre, il genio in azioni e materie prime, nonche', eroe civile, Michele Nista? Allora date un'occhiata a cosa scrive chi da lui, si e' visto, di fatto, derubare milioni di euro, tutti risparmi che aveva:
Gruppo di risparmiatori truffati da bastardissimo criminale, pluri pregiudicato, avanzo di galera Paolo Barrai ( Blog Mercato "Merdato" Libero). Da incapace, delinquente, ladro, mega lava EURO mafiosi o "politicriminali", padanazista, berlusconazista, razzista, antisemita, super cocainomane, acclarato pedofilo, frequente mandante di omicidi Paolo Barrai ( Mercato Libero noto a tutto il mondo come Mer-d-ato Libero). Si, assolutamente, pure assassino Paolo Barrai ( "suicidatore" di David Rossi di Mps ma non solo). Schifoso lava cash mafioso e killer Paolo Barrai nato a Milano il 28.6.1965. E, prima di ora scappare come un vile ratto, a Lugano, in Svizzera (avendo paura di venire arrestato, in quanto indagato da Procure di Mezza Italia) e fra poco ancora più lontano: a Panama ( ove lo proteggerebbe il criminalissimo nazifascista corrottissimo ambasciatore lava EURO e $ mafiosi Giancarlo Maria Curcio
http://www.ambpanama.esteri.it/Ambasciata_Panama/Menu/Ambasciata/Ambasciatore/
non per niente, vicino al noto camorrist-avanzo di galera Valter Lavitola
http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2012/05/01/ecco-legami-valter-lavitola-lambasciatore-curcio-panama/214621/
http://www.bergamonews.it/politica/lavitola-e-berlusconi-intercettazoni-e-ricatti-hard-di-panama-183608)
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Verme repellente Paolo Barrai di Mercato Libero: facente sue terrificanti delinquenze in cravatta da casa, presso Via Ippodromo 105 Milano. O DAGLI UFFICI DI MALAVITOSA, MEGA LAVA SOLDI DI COSA NOSTRA, LADRONA, BASTARDAMENTE CRIMINALE BSI ITALIA SRL DI VIA SOCRATE 26 MILANO. IN MANO A SUO PADRE, NOTO PADANAZIS-T-RUFFATORE E PURE NOTO PEDERASTA VINCENZO BARRAI. ABITANTE IN VIA PADOVA 282 A MILANO E NATO A MILANO IL 3.5.1938
Ciao, sono Antonella di Milano, e faccio parte di un foltissimo gruppo di clienti derubati di tutto, dall'assolutamente criminale Paolo Barrai (Mercato Libero, ormai noto nel mondo intero come Mer-d-ato Libero). Costui è davvero un bastardo assassino sicario. A tutti noi, uniti ora in una associazione " Risparmiatori truffati da spietato criminale Paolo Barrai di Mercato Libero (e siamo gia' in centoventi, dico centiventi: di tutta Italia, Brasile, Germania e Svizzera)" ci fece andare corti ( al ribasso) sul mercato azionario italiano a inizio 2009 (col Dow Jones ai minimi degli ultimi decenni: 6900; cosa che avrebbe potuto fare solo l'Ugo Fantozzi misto a Renato Vallanzasca della Finanza: Paolo Barrai). Abbiam perso quasi tutti tra il 70 e il 100 per cento dei nostri investimenti. E quando gli telefonavamo per chiedere semplicemente che fare, mentre il mercato saliva rapidissimamente, dal Marzo 2009 in avanti, egli, se non meglio dire, "esso", come un vile ratto, scappava. Si faceva sempre negare al telefono. Mandavamo e mails, nessuna risposta. Citofanavamo agli uffici di ultra truffatrice, ultra malavitosa, ultra ladrona Bsi Italia Srl di Via Socrate 26 a Milano di suo padre, notoriamente pure pedofilo, oltre che mega ricicla soldi criminal-istituzionali o mafiosi, Vincenzo Barrai di Via Padova 282 a Milano, ci vedeva dalla telecamera e nemmeno ci rispondeva. Nemmeno ci apriva il cancello di entrata. Io non sto offendendo, sto solo dicendo la mera verità . E fra poco la faremo sapere a fior fior di Tribunali di mezza Italia, anzi, mezzo Pianeta Terrra!!! Che i delinquenti ti debbano fare fessa, e pure non permettano replica, no eeeee. Il neofascismo e la mafia del delinquente, del ladro, del truffatore, del professionalmente incapacissimo, del davvero bastardo dentro e fuori Paolo Barrai di Mercato Libero alias Mer-d-ato Libero, a noi non fa nessuna paura.
Una truffata, derubata di tutto, dal verme assassino Paolo Barrai (già riciclante soldi di Mafia, Camorra, Ndrangheta, come di mastodontici ladrocinii o mega corruzione di Umberto Bossi e Silvio Berlusconi). Fra l´altro, socio, non compare di malavita, ma socio di:
arrestato Alessandro Proto
http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2013/02/14/manipolazione-del-mercato-arrestato-a-milano-finanziere-alessandro-proto/500117/
http://www.ilsole24ore.com/art/notizie/2013-02-14/arrestato-finanziere-alessandro-proto-185225.shtml?uuid=AbLGMWUH
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